Post: #4801

(03-11-2015 05:48 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  I use to live in Florida so from Feb-April I would get 75% of my bands from Soeing breakers.

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Post: #4802

(03-11-2015 07:13 PM)Mister X Wrote:  As someone who values quality, I just don't really get the quantity lifestyle. I guess it has to do with the thrill of "new pussy," but to me "good pussy" will trump new pussy every single time. No contest. I really do question how some guys can actually have penetrative and oral sex with women they don't find attractive. I honestly can't grasp it. It seems like a major time waster for both parties involved.

Now obviously the caveat is that, if you went for quality only, your notch count wouldn't be impressive. But who cares? Who cares what the number is?

When Derek Jeter retired, ESPN put up a graphic of his starting lineup. 9 girls he had dated throughout his career. I would take his 9 over a quantity dude's 50+ any day.

Granted I'm not Jeter and I'm not gonna get the quality he has access to. I just scratch my head at some guys on here and the bullshit they put up with, all for a notch that ultimately, is not very worth while to begin with.

I would think especially, after having some sexual experiences under your belt - your priorities would change, and you would be desensitized to the whole thing. So that you're not thirsty for just any pussy that comes your way, and are instead more selective. To each his own I guess.

I know there are entire threads dedicated to this argument so I'm not going to make one. Just something that's been on my mind and I really didn't have anywhere else to put it.

Most guys' quality goes up over time.

You can have both. It isn't one or the other. Banging 50 7+s in a year would be very tough for even great players (time spent chasing), but banging 20 or more is completely doable.

If you only fuck girls that could get paid at least a moderate living to swimsuit model, yeah you are in a small league (8+).

Post: #4803

(03-11-2015 08:20 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(03-11-2015 07:13 PM)Mister X Wrote:  As someone who values quality, I just don't really get the quantity lifestyle. I guess it has to do with the thrill of "new pussy," but to me "good pussy" will trump new pussy every single time. No contest. I really do question how some guys can actually have penetrative and oral sex with women they don't find attractive. I honestly can't grasp it. It seems like a major time waster for both parties involved.

Now obviously the caveat is that, if you went for quality only, your notch count wouldn't be impressive. But who cares? Who cares what the number is?

When Derek Jeter retired, ESPN put up a graphic of his starting lineup. 9 girls he had dated throughout his career. I would take his 9 over a quantity dude's 50+ any day.

Granted I'm not Jeter and I'm not gonna get the quality he has access to. I just scratch my head at some guys on here and the bullshit they put up with, all for a notch that ultimately, is not very worth while to begin with.

I would think especially, after having some sexual experiences under your belt - your priorities would change, and you would be desensitized to the whole thing. So that you're not thirsty for just any pussy that comes your way, and are instead more selective. To each his own I guess.

I know there are entire threads dedicated to this argument so I'm not going to make one. Just something that's been on my mind and I really didn't have anywhere else to put it.

Most guys' quality goes up over time.

You can have both. It isn't one or the other. Banging 50 7+s in a year would be very tough for even great players (time spent chasing), but banging 20 or more is completely doable.

If you only fuck girls that could get paid at least a moderate living to swimsuit model, yeah you are in a small league (8+).

Well in this thread, and the notch thread, I see a lot of guys not really proud of their bangs in terms of the woman they actually banged, but more so proud they added a number to their notch count.

They'll take the easy layup, or the convenient bang, because they're complacent, or they're in a dry spell, or whatever it is. But what it boils down to is guys banging chicks they're not really all that attracted to.

And maybe some men are different in the sense that - they can get up for the situation...it's worth the gaming, and setting up the logistics, and the possible spending of money on drinks or whatever just so they can add the notch.

For me personally, if I'm getting very "meh" vibes from the girl, I move on. I only target girls that bring the animal out of me. Girls that make me want to carry them to my room caveman style and fuck them senseless. If I don't get that feeling, I'm just not interested in doing all the work it takes to get the bang. For what? All that work for what?

Some guys may say it's good practice, and you learn things about the female condition the more girls you deal with, attractive or unattractive.

My idea of game is different. It's largely lifestyle based. Be your best self, in all phases, and you will continuously improve your pool of prospects.

Post: #4804

Quote:For me personally, if I'm getting very "meh" vibes from the girl, I move on. I only target girls that bring the animal out of me. Girls that make me want to carry them to my room caveman style and fuck them senseless. If I don't get that feeling, I'm just not interested in doing all the work it takes to get the bang. For what? All that work for what?

Some guys may say it's good practice, and you learn things about the female condition the more girls you deal with, attractive or unattractive.

My idea of game is different. It's largely lifestyle based. Be your best self, in all phases, and you will continuously improve your pool of prospects.

Totally agree.

If the chemistry isn't hot for me I will crash and burn with a girl...there's just nothing to carry us forward.

Pursuing higher quality women(8-9s) is worth it, however it is not for the faint of heart...
it takes a lot of dedicated effort in so many areas...you have to become a real
man...disciplined, focused, creative, successful and not willing to settle until you get the
exact kind of women you want.

At the end of the day, it's not going to be how many women you slept with, it's going to
be who you end up with that counts. The journey might be a long one with lots of twists
and turns though you'll be a happier man for it...

Post: #4805

(03-11-2015 08:50 PM)Mister X Wrote:  My idea of game is different. It's largely lifestyle based. Be your best self, in all phases, and you will continuously improve your pool of prospects.

I think everyone on this forum believes this.

I don't think it is as bad as you think.

You hang out in the Player Lounge and +1 thread you are looking at active game reports, not active lifestyle changes. With the slump buster reports there are also ones where guys have banged the hottest girl they have ever banged!

Again most guys that get quantity also mix in quite a bit of quality as they gain experience which turns into even more quality.

Soup (who created this thread) was a perfect example. He had something like 60+ notches in a year including a lot of SIFs etc... he just banged to bang, but you saw his game change he started targeting higher end chicks and looking for ways into a high end clique. Going after more models etc... the next year his tone completely changed and his girls were much better quality. I am sure his quality is even better now as he is dedicated to the game.

Here is a post about a chick I just banged.

I keep moving consistently up in quality and having some quantity has helped me achieve the inner game to get there, like it helped Soup, like it helped Gio, and has helped many others.

Some guys have the inner game to not need to do that which is fine, but I have had a hell of a good time climbing the ladder. It isn't for everyone, yet for most newbies I would highly recommend it as a growth experience.

When I am on a hot streak I often ended up banging one of the hottest chick I have ever banged sometime in the middle to end of that streak.

I don't think I've gone 2 or 3 months without a new girl then the next one is all of sudden very hot. Just works for me. I am sure as my game improves I may be able to go a year or two without a hot chick (banging the same one) then all of sudden go pick out a new one.

Post: #4806

(03-11-2015 11:06 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(03-11-2015 08:50 PM)Mister X Wrote:  My idea of game is different. It's largely lifestyle based. Be your best self, in all phases, and you will continuously improve your pool of prospects.

I think everyone on this forum believes this.

I don't think it is as bad as you think.

You hang out in the Player Lounge and +1 thread you are looking at active game reports, not active lifestyle changes. With the slump buster reports there are also ones where guys have banged the hottest girl they have ever banged!

Again most guys that get quantity also mix in quite a bit of quality as they gain experience which turns into even more quality.

Soup (who created this thread) was a perfect example. He had something like 60+ notches in a year including a lot of SIFs etc... he just banged to bang, but you saw his game change he started targeting higher end chicks and looking for ways into a high end clique. Going after more models etc... the next year his tone completely changed and his girls were much better quality. I am sure his quality is even better now as he is dedicated to the game.

Here is a post about a chick I just banged.

I keep moving consistently up in quality and having some quantity has helped me achieve the inner game to get there, like it helped Soup, like it helped Gio, and has helped many others.

Some guys have the inner game to not need to do that which is fine, but I have had a hell of a good time climbing the ladder. It isn't for everyone, yet for most newbies I would highly recommend it as a growth experience.

When I am on a hot streak I often ended up banging one of the hottest chick I have ever banged sometime in the middle to end of that streak.

I don't think I've gone 2 or 3 months without a new girl then the next one is all of sudden very hot. Just works for me. I am sure as my game improves I may be able to go a year or two without a hot chick (banging the same one) then all of sudden go pick out a new one.

Good points made. I just think you can avoid shooting for quantity and still grow as a man in this game.

I've never seen this game as racking up numbers to brag to others, or to stroke my own ego. I've always seen it as "I have a very specific type I'm highly attracted to. Both physically and personality wise. What can I do to better myself as a man, what improvements can I make so that I can get a girl like that."

Some guys see it as a natural progression and almost a rite of passage in some ways - a ladder as you mentioned. Where you start off with neither quality nor quantity, and hopefully end up with a healthy amount of both after you've made your improvements.

I've grown, but not by sleeping with any and every girl to get me started. My targets have never changed. I know the kind of woman I want.

So, the way I look at it - the goal is to go from, being invisible to the kinds of women I want, to having my existence acknowledged but only making it to the friend zone, to having the stones to approach the kinds of women I want but failing to generate romantic interest (flakes, dead leads, etc), to generating romantic interest from the ones I want.

I guess I would liken it to sports. I want to be a pro, and I want to win a pro championship. Losses are hard, but you can learn from them. If I lost in the first round of the playoffs, I'm not going to go back to college and compete in the Final Four because it's easier to win a title with my pro experience against players with college level skills. I'm going to train harder in the off season to make sure I get deeper in the playoffs at the professional level. Final Four titles don't interest me. Bowl games don't interest me. I want to be a pro, competing with pros, for a professional title.

Yes, early on, you are going to fail, but it's more rewarding when you succeed.

I don't think people that are more quantity oriented are wrong, for the record. I'm just amazed that it seems to be the more popular belief around these parts.

You're working on your game, you're doing your best to improve yourself - why are you settling for girls you're not into? Don't waste your game on that. Don't waste your time or theirs.

Post: #4807

(03-11-2015 06:49 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Another good tip from B7s I have been following, play card games with some drinking involved or a board game with drinking rules applied something simple and stupid like Sorry! or Uno Duo etc... these are more interactive and have much more push pull than a movie.

I don't watch movies anymore on pre-bang dates ever.

Yes! Interactive dates are far more enjoyable and successful for me compared to sitting at a bar or watching a movie.

The last few weeks, 100% of my "first-dates" that I've been doing at home have all been "standing" dates.

Meaning, I serve the girl drinks and we hang out in the kitchen and living room, standing up on our feet the entire time.

As soon as a girl sits down, it's game over, so I avoid that at all costs. Her body gets tired by sitting down, and if there is drinking then it puts her in a subdued mood. I want her active and horny, not sedentary and sleepy.

I keep them standing, often for 2-3 hours at a time! It makes them uncomfortable, and I can read this from their body language, but it keeps them moving around and keeps their blood flowing.

Subconsciously she wants to rest her feet, so when I throw her on my bed it's like a huge flush of relaxation and relief sweeping over her body.

Post: #4808

I had a weird night.

Invited a girl over for drinks. She is 25. You guys would not believe the skinny waist/huge booty combo this girl is rocking.

Anyway, she moved to my city 4 days ago! Told me I was the first person, male or female, she had hung out with since she got here.

me: "what brought you out here so suddenly?
her: "I was engaged and broke off my wedding 10 days ago"

I am thinking to myself: "woah! damn. It's either definitely on right now and this girl is looking for rebound sex, or it's definitely off right now and this girl is still in shock from calling off her wedding and ditching her fiance in another state."

I knew there wouldn't be a middle ground.

I had a hard time getting a read on her. Her actions showed me one thing, but her body language another.

Positive signs:
- She hung out with me for 3 rounds of strong drinks over about 3 hours. On a weeknight, that's obviously a very strong show of interest.
- She came directly to my house
- Lots of sustained eye contact
- Easy going conversation
- We shared some genuine laughs when telling stories


Negative signs:
- She kept about 4-5 feet away from me the entire night. Even when I slowly moved toward her, it was like she was magnetically repelled in the other direction. I couldn't physically flirt with her because she wouldn't let me get close.
- I never got "the look" from her. (that subtle tell in a girls eyes when you know she wants you)
- It just never felt right to me. I had fun hanging and talking with her, but I never got butterflies in my stomach from sexual tension.
- She rejected my attempt to kiss her by turning her head away

Shortly after rejecting my kiss she says she has to go home, BUT then asks me to walk her halfway. That was a surprise.

When she gets home, she texts me saying she had fun, says she wants to hang out again, and asked me twice if I had fun with her tonight. We text for a minute more and she ends with "Goodnight xoxo"

My guess here is that she is emotionally raw from the experience of ditching her fiance, and she currently feels uncomfortable being single because she doesn't know how to flirt or be with a new guy anymore.

So, even though she wants to see me again, I've never had a 2nd date with a girl that I didn't kiss on the first date. Never.

Every passionate relationship I've ever had has started passionately!

I am wondering if this might be the one time exception to the rule, or if I should just move on?

Post: #4809

(03-12-2015 01:28 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Subconsciously she wants to rest her feet, so when I throw her on my bed it's like a huge flush of relaxation and relief sweeping over her body.

Lol. I love this forum

Post: #4810

(03-12-2015 02:35 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  me: "what brought you out here so suddenly?
her: "I was engaged and broke off my wedding 10 days ago"

That's a bit heavy, yes? She's prob going through some heavy emotional life changes and most likely has guards up like a mfker. I'd say you combo comfort and inner sexuality and stretch it over multiple hang sessions. I'd be careful to ratchet up comfort but not go over the edge. By hang 3/4 you better be at least dry humping and showering together high school style. Joke, 3-4 hangs to bone otherwise bounce IMO.Either way not an LTR

(03-12-2015 02:35 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  My guess here is that she is emotionally raw from the experience of ditching her fiance, and she currently feels uncomfortable being single because she doesn't know how to flirt or be with a new guy anymore.

I am wondering if this might be the one time exception to the rule, or if I should just move on?

Yep. Couple more dates then move on, depending on the booty. Pics?

Post: #4811

(03-12-2015 12:24 AM)Mister X Wrote:  You're working on your game, you're doing your best to improve yourself - why are you settling for girls you're not into? Don't waste your game on that. Don't waste your time or theirs.

Its an evolving spectrum isn't it? When you are a beginner, its about notches and getting experience. As you get more experience, you begin to self-select upwards instead of going for whatever you can get. You realize its not a gift that girls give you by getting with you. You get more experience to the point where you know you can land 6s.
Then with the regular 6-7 game you realize you can level up. Then you run into a cold streak and go back to the 6-7. It isn't necessarily that you don't want to bang 6/7s its that you know you can and therefore what you really want are 8s+ because those get you really going. Life oscillations between 60-70% 6/7s and 30% +s if you aren't an extra-ordinary human (top exec/cash flow/celeb/athlete/promoter/restauranteur/in the scene etc)

So you can very well say you only go for chicks that you are really attracted to, if you can sustain that level, good for you bro but the reality is what I described - for good players with real lives and struggles.

Post: #4812

(03-09-2015 06:22 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

(03-02-2015 07:10 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 11:28 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 09:29 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 11:59 AM)kaotic Wrote:  
Best thing I heard this morning yet ! The good news is she won't ever forget this date for you, the bad new is she might be that horrified/embarrassed that she'll never want to see you again.

It depends on how you reacted and how the date went after the hair incident. I'm thinking you can coax her out for a second date pretty easy with this story.

This happened about half way through our date and I just laughed at her and teased her about it. I think it was a good thing as it didn't do her any real harm but made the date and therefore me memorable.
I don't think it embarrassed her enough to not want to see me again or anything as she stuck around afterwards and gave me plenty of IOI's. We had a decent make out at the end of the date so I'm confident of seeing her again.

Will actually use this incident in my follow up text I think.

Followed up with her Friday arvo (she is studying and uni hasn't gone back yet so texting her during the day is better than at night) with a line about getting the smell of burning hair out of my car. Her response was negative and logical which annoyed me as I thought it was a funny line.
Anyway, I let it go as it was Friday night but negged her about it this afternoon and now have another date set up for next week.

It's always something with this chick. She has rescheduled every date at least once. All her excuses are legit but damn, once is chance, twice is coincidence but third time is enemy activity.
She rescheduled our first date because her back flared up and then it went ahead on the second attempt.
It was then over a month to a our second date (the one in the quoted post above) as it got rescheduled twice, once due to me and once due to her having some kind of family issue.
Now for our 3rd date she already cancelled on me last week due to having a big night the night before and being wrecked. That actually worked out well for me because I'd done the same thing and the early night was welcome. Now she apparently has food poisoning (gave me the heads up on Sunday) and doesn't think she'll be recovered for our date on Tuesday.

Like I said, it all seems legit but it's like the universe is out to stop me banging this chick.
I'm thinking about just nexting her as it's becoming a pain in the arse and I can't be bothered dealing with it but she is really hot.

I want to call her out on her flakiness as it's pissing me off.

She's finally recovered from her bout of food poisoning and we've got date #3 rescheduled for tomorrow night. It's not ideal for me as I'll be coming straight from a late work meeting (I initially said Wednesday but she couldn't and Tuesday is the only other day I have free) so I've scheduled for us to meet at a hip mexican restaurant so I can get some food. I hate this as I'm firmly in camp no appetizers.
Still I figure we'll get food and then bounce to a bar nearby. The bar I wanted to go to isn't open on a Tuesday night I've just discovered so instead I have two choices:

A. Cocktail bar
B. Dive bar with free pool table

Our first 2 dates were at cocktail bars so I feel like mixing it up now and throwing in an activity i.e. pool, however she is an upmarket girl so I'm wondering if it's the best idea to take her to a dive bar.

3rd date with this girl went ahead and it went really well which I wasn't expecting. Quite funny as I went into it thinking it was just a place holder date to maintain connection until I could get her out on a weekend as she'd been really cranky over text the past 3 weeks since our previous date.
I didn't get the bang which is why I'm posting here instead of in the I-just-had-sex thread.

We both ran late to the dinner rendevouz, her more than me, but when she got there she was showing IOI's from the get go. Really warm hug, touching me during conversation and before I even started kinoing her, positive body language, etc. A complete reversal from how she'd been over text during the previous weeks.
I told her if she'd flaked on me tonight I was going to next her and she apologised for her shit behavior over the past couple of weeks while she was sick which was nice.

We had dinner and a couple of drinks and then moved to a nearby bar for another. I could have easily gotten her home but my room currently looks like a bomb hit and my logistics with my housemates still makes things awkward (need to get this locked down).
So instead we proceeded to get down with a good old fashioned high school make out in my car. It got really hot and heavy and she loved it but she wouldn't let me go downstairs as she was on the rag.
This is where I was kicking myself as if I'd had her at my place I could have just put a towel down and pushed through.
So instead I whipped it out and she went straight to it without me even telling her to. Swallowed at the end like a good girl too.

So while it wasn't a bang, I'm pretty happy with the car blowjob and we've already got plans to catch up again and watch a movie at my place.

Surprise packet of the night was she had both nipples pierced. I've not encountered that before but I liked it.

Post: #4813

So that makes two Filipino girls in the last 4 days. One from tinder and another from a bar.

Just a nice reminder of easy the Philippines will be when I go.

Post: #4814

(03-11-2015 06:49 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Another good tip from B7s I have been following, play card games with some drinking involved or a board game with drinking rules applied something simple and stupid like Sorry! or Uno Duo etc... these are more interactive and have much more push pull than a movie.

I don't watch movies anymore on pre-bang dates ever.

Please share your favorite drinking games that you do with girls. Having a girl over tomorrow evening and I'd like to try some out.

Post: #4815

Sometimes you just have to keep going when shit get's tough.



Game rewarded me last night with a new pretty cool girl that I banged.

This is my redemption for Wednesday girl who freaked out and walked out of my house right before sex.


Feeling pretty damn fucking good right now.

Post: #4816

(03-12-2015 07:17 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  

(03-11-2015 06:49 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Another good tip from B7s I have been following, play card games with some drinking involved or a board game with drinking rules applied something simple and stupid like Sorry! or Uno Duo etc... these are more interactive and have much more push pull than a movie.

I don't watch movies anymore on pre-bang dates ever.

Please share your favorite drinking games that you do with girls. Having a girl over tomorrow evening and I'd like to try some out.

http://www.drinkinggamezone.com/drinking-games/

Bullshit
Asshole
Fuck the Dealer

The game I play now I can't find it is like War... look up the game War... add a drink sip everytime someone loses a round.

Add the side rule that if there are duplicate cards put down in a row you can slap the table to steal the pile and win the round, the loser that doesn't slap drinks. If you slap at the wrong time you lose and drink.

Post: #4817

(03-12-2015 07:17 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Please share your favorite drinking games that you do with girls. Having a girl over tomorrow evening and I'd like to try some out.

Here is a game a girl taught me. It's not a drinking game, but it's fun to do while drinking:

- You each take 3 colored pencils (or markers or crayons) and a piece of plain paper.

- You create a divider (like a stack of books) so she can't see your paper, and you can't see hers.

- Then you both have 10 minutes to draw a portrait of each other!

After 10 minutes, you do the big reveal, and you both get to see what the other one drew. The reveal is always very funny, because chances are you both drew terrible portraits.

It's a great way to keep the energy high, tease her, get her laughing, and have some fun.

But the real magic, of course, is that for 10 straight minutes she's staring at you, thinking about you, or drawing your picture. This can build a lot of attraction!

Post: #4818

Meant to answer this earlier:

(03-08-2015 05:13 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Do/did you get easily attached when you started out in the game? How did you take control of those emotions if so?

I probably fall in love 5 times a week. I love all kinds of women! That was true when I started the game, and it's true now when I'm sleeping with many different girls.

I guess I am just an emotional guy. But, the emotions are always positive. To feel attracted to a girl, to be thinking about her the next day, to get an unexpected call or text from her, to meet a new girl who gives you a look that makes your heart beat faster...man that is good stuff! And it's even better when it's coming from multiple girls.

I don't ever feel the need to "control" these emotions because they always make me feel good.

One way to do this is by having relationships with many girls simultaneously. Otherwise, you'll end up obsessing over one girl. For me, I am obsessing over all girls!

Post: #4819

(03-12-2015 03:02 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Meant to answer this earlier:

(03-08-2015 05:13 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Do/did you get easily attached when you started out in the game? How did you take control of those emotions if so?

I probably fall in love 5 times a week. I love all kinds of women! That was true when I started the game, and it's true now when I'm sleeping with many different girls.

I guess I am just an emotional guy. But, the emotions are always positive. To feel attracted to a girl, to be thinking about her the next day, to get an unexpected call or text from her, to meet a new girl who gives you a look that makes your heart beat faster...man that is good stuff! And it's even better when it's coming from multiple girls.

I don't ever feel the need to "control" these emotions because they always make me feel good.

One way to do this is by having relationships with many girls simultaneously. Otherwise, you'll end up obsessing over one girl. For me, I am obsessing over all girls!

I'm exactly the same - I love that shit and am probably more emotional than the average guy. Sounds like you are too. Do you also get really low lows?

It's just about turning it into a strength and framing it positively in your own mind. I've started doing that because I notice how easy it is for me to connect pre-bang - it just happens. The last 2 lays this resulted in zero LMR (I like to think it was the result of that anyway). How can something like that be a weakness?

Post: #4820

(03-12-2015 02:34 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

(03-12-2015 07:17 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Please share your favorite drinking games that you do with girls. Having a girl over tomorrow evening and I'd like to try some out.

Here is a game a girl taught me. It's not a drinking game, but it's fun to do while drinking:

- You each take 3 colored pencils (or markers or crayons) and a piece of plain paper.

- You create a divider (like a stack of books) so she can't see your paper, and you can't see hers.

- Then you both have 10 minutes to draw a portrait of each other!

After 10 minutes, you do the big reveal, and you both get to see what the other one drew. The reveal is always very funny, because chances are you both drew terrible portraits.

It's a great way to keep the energy high, tease her, get her laughing, and have some fun.

But the real magic, of course, is that for 10 straight minutes she's staring at you, thinking about you, or drawing your picture. This can build a lot of attraction!

This is really great. We need a thread with first meet ideas that are interactive.

Post: #4821

Had a second date last night with a 40 yo Asian woman originally from the SF bay area. We met for happy hour and then bounced back to my place where we made out a little but she was not comfortable with going any further. I'm really thankful for everything I've learned on this forum as she's one of those kind that could give me a horrible case of oneitis. She's exactly my type and I could easily see myself losing control. Thankfully I'm seeing another plate tonight, a FB is visiting me tomorrow night and I have dates with other plates on Sunday and Monday. Still, it's going to take every bit of will power to not text this one until Sunday. I can trace almost all of my gaming fuck ups back to contacting a woman too much, too soon and conversely, the ones where I've been most successful my communication has been very measured and sparingly.

Post: #4822

I feel like I'm back right where I started a year ago. The only difference now is that I go on more dates, dates end more frequently with hot intense makeout, and my dates are way hotter than before. But still no bang since December.

I'm going out almost every other day, talking to a lot of women, trying out new lines/tactics, bursting my ass building and keeping the status I already have in my two main social circles, killing it in the gym and school. Yet nothing seems to be working. Girls would go on great dates with me then disappear.

After a long time, I finally feel exhausted from all the effort. Maybe I haven't really internalized my ideal life style yet.

I went through my old journal and exactly same time this year, I hit a roadblock and said "fuck this I'm taking a break", and went on vacation. When I came back I pulled one SDL and one SNL in two weeks.

Maybe I can make history repeat itself again this year.

Post: #4823

(03-12-2015 05:16 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I feel like I'm back right where I started a year ago. The only difference now is that I go on more dates, dates end more frequently with hot intense makeout, and my dates are way hotter than before. But still no bang since December.

I'm going out almost every other day, talking to a lot of women, trying out new lines/tactics, bursting my ass building and keeping the status I already have in my two main social circles, killing it in the gym and school. Yet nothing seems to be working. Girls would go on great dates with me then disappear.

After a long time, I finally feel exhausted from all the effort. Maybe I haven't really internalized my ideal life style yet.

I went through my old journal and exactly same time this year, I hit a roadblock and said "fuck this I'm taking a break", and went on vacation. When I came back I pulled one SDL and one SNL in two weeks.

Maybe I can make history repeat itself again this year.

While you always want to take note of the state of your game and continue to make improvements keep in mind dating goes in cycles of peaks and valleys. I just had two women over the last week come over to my place after a first and second date, I felt like I followed the first date bang recipe to a tee and neither of them progressed beyond light makeouts. I'm sure others on here will disagree with me but in my mind the purpose of game is to set the odds the most in our favor, handle any possible objections or roadblocks to getting bangs but at the end of the day if a woman goes in firmly with the mindset of her not having sex until the x'th date there's really not much we can do about it. In other words game to me is us minimizing our own fuckups and keeping us from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Post: #4824

(03-12-2015 05:16 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I'm going out almost every other day, talking to a lot of women, trying out new lines/tactics, bursting my ass building and keeping the status I already have in my two main social circles, killing it in the gym and school. Yet nothing seems to be working. Girls would go on great dates with me then disappear.

After a long time, I finally feel exhausted from all the effort. Maybe I haven't really internalized my ideal life style yet.

I went through my old journal and exactly same time this year, I hit a roadblock and said "fuck this I'm taking a break", and went on vacation. When I came back I pulled one SDL and one SNL in two weeks.

Maybe I can make history repeat itself again this year.

Do you ever do detailed date write ups ?

If so go back and see what you did that was different, if you don't see much of a difference, I think it's time to re-analyze your game.

Maybe vacations re energize you, maybe you're spending TOO much time with girls and not yourself.

Quote:The only difference now is that I go on more dates, dates end more frequently with hot intense makeout, and my dates are way hotter than before. But still no bang since December.

That's a pretty solid difference from last year right ?

Why aren't you going for the bang ? How are your logistics ? Are you trying zero date bangs ? What about inviting them over to your place to begin with ? Do you get second dates ? If so how do you follow up with them ?

If you feel like you're doing the same and not getting laid.

I think it's time to take a break, and revise things.

You know we're all here to help.

For starters write about some date highlights, how you close for the makeout, and what a typical date looks like.

I personally giving details about my dates/bangs because I can always look back and see what I did right and what not to do anymore.

Also guys like Blur, Trav, etc can give me advice as well.

Post: #4825

^ I am convinced killer instinct to go from a heavy make out to a bang is the most in-born part of Game and hardest to learn. I am lucky it was pretty much the only part of game I am a natural at and had to put tons of work into everything else, except closing.

It comes from the primitive part of the brain much more than any logic like approaches, openers, logistics, clothes whatever.

It is the toughest part of Game I cannot know how to verbalize. I use analogies like being a shark with blood in the water or a tree panther going for the jugular, but there is no text that can explain how to grab a girl, how much to look in her eyes, how intensely, how heavy to breathe. A million tiny things. You are heavily telling her with your hands and lips that she belongs to you for the duration of the sexual encounter and you know how good she is going to have it, she can feel she is picking the right guy to drop the panties for.

This is the major roadblock for many many guys who have charm and social circle game.

Girls are also extremely unforgiving in this area. A botched approach, or sorta lame date, you can still get laid. When a girl is giving the green light to have sex with her you usually get one shot and then the hamster straps itself on a rocket to the moon if you don't capitalize.

I picked the relaxed drinking honey badger as my avatar (probably looks like a skunk) for the reason it mimicked my Game even when it was several levels lower when I first joined the forum. Chill most of the time, always raring to kill though.