Post: #4751

(03-06-2015 05:37 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Nice work, you played this perfectly! Sounds like you were laid back and cool about the one night stand, and that she also had fun. That's a great position to be in.

Chances are she won't contact you, but that's no problem as you can hit her up again yourself. I usually wait 7-10 days after the first bang, then hit her up and setup a second encounter, aiming to have the second bang be around 14 days after the first.

This is a good way to make sure you're playing it cool, and also so that she knows you're not looking to get into a long term relationship with her. If she's down, she'll have no problem meeting up 2 weeks later to bang again.

Rinse and repeat!

Thanks for the tips BlurredSevens.

Unfortunately, this ended in an anti-climax.

I texted her 2 days later per the advice of another member. Her response times and vibe were pitch-perfect and we bantered a bit.

Tried to set up a rendevouz a few texts in. No go and she didn't counter-offer. This is where my gut said something was off and to disengage.

Foolishly, I immediately offered another day and her response was to the tune of "maybe". I said "let's plan for it and if either of us can't, that's ok, we'll reschedule".

She replied early the next morning. She apologizes, says what happened last time was a one time thing and she appreciates honesty; as such she doesn't want to waste my time.

Never replied to her, just deleted her number. Still have her on FB though, she added me before we met. Never burn a bridge and piss on the embers?

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She was actually really cool, so this was a let down. A good learning experience though.

What I've realized with the recent girls I've met is that I get attached easily and it's something I need to work on.

Always working on prospects and filling your pipeline helps, but when you meet someone that stands out, it sucks to get rejected.

I'm not even looking for a GF, but I might emit those vibes to ONS's.

I'm not the guy that fucks and leaves (yet). I don't mind staying, cuddling and just talking. I enjoy it and every hour spent next to a naked woman is a lesson to me. "What if I say this, do this etc".

I'm not the cold alpha type (still working on getting out of beta-zone, hah!). It's not congruent with me, and one of my strengths is that I can connect with many types of girls.

But maybe it's time harden up if I want more solid prospects?

This turned into a self-analyzing post, but sometimes you get flashes of insight at 9 in the morning.

Post: #4752

Ok that was weird and a first one for me.

Pre-info: Broke up with a girl this thursday, was kinda bummed out, went with a mate to a billiard bar. Had a blast of a time, met some random people, some cheeky Brits here for a weekend, then a group of foreign slav girls came in, got facebook from one of them at closing time. Facebooked her shortly, got number, today she was free of work so proposed a drink. She was 19, interesting curly hair and smooth pretty face with blue eyes, small and slim. Definitely a 7, maybe a 8 in some eyes.

The meet: We meet up, conversation is flower but slightly slower since she knows the language to like 80-90%. She seems kinda all over the place but also very low-key in her emotions. Touch back, no problem, touch knee no problem. Offers me cigs. Proposer that we go to the billiard bar where we met, call the waiter and she automatically pays for herself. Outside offers me to smoke weed, says she started it when she came over here to study to relieve stress. Thought that explained her slightly scatterbrained but also really lean-back demeanor. Arrive at other buy, grab some beers, try to go for the kiss after a bit of talking and kino and she hits me with the "I have a bf in my country". Truth be told, I kinda wasn't that surprised about the revelation because I saw some guy really close to her in her recent Facebook pictures but who would think that she ACTUALLY has a bf after she accepted the drink invite? Asked her why we're meeting up since she has a bf, she hit me with the LJBF. Oh well, played it chill and since my beer was finished already told her I'm gonna meet up some friends so let's bail. Talked a bit on the way to the train and said bye.

So, not sure what was up. The vibe was relaxed, but kinda off. She let me touch her and sat next to me when I told her to sit closer, but not enthusiastically or responsive. She has bf, but accepted a drink with me. Then again, BF is REALLY long-distance so maybe she was scoping something out? Wasn't guarded when talking, was fun but not super 100% into it. I dunno, either I gamed wrong, she was scoping something potential out even though she does have long-distance bf or she actually is THAT scatter brained or cutthroat that she'd go out with someone pretending she's surprised that we're not going out as friends.
We parted ways in an friendly and chill way so maybe I should just keep her on the baaaaack burner and just have a funny pretty girl to invite to some random parties while not really caring about the outcome.

Post: #4753

(03-07-2015 03:33 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  I enjoy it and every hour spent next to a naked woman is a lesson to me. "What if I say this, do this etc".

I'm not the cold alpha type (still working on getting out of beta-zone, hah!). It's not congruent with me, and one of my strengths is that I can connect with many types of girls.

But maybe it's time harden up if I want more solid prospects?

No way, man! Being "dark" and "emotionally cold" is glamorized by some people in the game, but to me there is nothing cool about it.

If you can get girls while being positive minded and while enjoying your time with them, well then you will have stumbled on a great feeling of happiness, and you'll experience success in the game. And that is cool as hell.

The trick is to keep your emotions in perspective, but you don't need to eliminate them and become a robot in order to be a player.

Emotions are a cornerstone of game. Hell, emotions are what make us different from animals. It's OK to feel good and bad and happy and sad around girls; it means you are still human. Personally, I would never want to trade my humanity for some pussy.

Now, if you are having trouble with girls because of your emotions getting in the way, well then that is something you should to take a look at. But "hardening up" in order to get laid more does not seem like the best path for you to follow. Maybe it is, but, you should explore various options before you go down that dark road.

Women are highly emotional creatures, and if your strength is an ability to connect with women on an emotional level, then you are closer to being an alpha player than you think! I would recommend you explore that facet of your game and your personality first before you try to become someone you're not.

Post: #4754

Decided to get rid of my only consistent plate because she was way too clingy. Had a decent last bang afterward. I dropped the thought that I don't even really think one girl can satisfy me. She seemed open to still wanting me. I hope I maintain this frame with other women.

That said, I've been stalking Gio's posts. I've gained so much knowledge from reading them that I really think it warrants a Gio appreciation thread. His comments have motivated the hell out of me to do more day approaches, as I was being a big pussy about it.

We'll see. I hope I didn't launch myself into another dry spell. Luckily, I haven't been as desperately thirsty as I have been in the past.

Post: #4755

Does anyone have experience with those magic wand type of massagers with a girl?

I went out and bought one today. One of my girls really enjoys being tied up, blindfolded and forced to be silent while I bring her to orgasm. It clicked in my head the other day to go buy one of those massagers.

Dropped $100 on it, but I have a feeling it will be a worthwhile investment because of the fun that can be had with it.

She'll be coming over in a couple hours, so I'll report back on my first time using it.

Post: #4756

(03-07-2015 08:30 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Now, if you are having trouble with girls because of your emotions getting in the way, well then that is something you should to take a look at. But "hardening up" in order to get laid more does not seem like the best path for you to follow. Maybe it is, but, you should explore various options before you go down that dark road.

Women are highly emotional creatures, and if your strength is an ability to connect with women on an emotional level, then you are closer to being an alpha player than you think! I would recommend you explore that facet of your game and your personality first before you try to become someone you're not.

Good advice BlurredSevens, thanks.

I agree. To find out who you are, you have to figure out who you're not as well.

I'll look through some threads on attachment. Have a feeling the ultimate answer lies in abundance.

Do/did you get easily attached when you started out in the game? How did you take control of those emotions if so?

Post: #4757

It's spring time.

Getting ready to drop the two girls I've been feeding off of for winter.

Post: #4758

Thought she was sexy as fuck and wanted to approach until I realized that she had no ass.

Post: #4759

Today is International Women's Day.

I raw dogged a ONS and came on her shirt.

How are you celebrating?

Post: #4760

Been feeling a bit jaded lately.

I feel like I'm a catch, and girls should be excited to hear from me. I don't care how many orbiters or other dudes in the running she has hitting her up, when my name pops up on her phone, time should freeze for her. And maybe that's egotistical and hard to come by especially in the current dating climate with all the distractions and thirst from other dudes polluting the airwaves. But still.

You put in the work to make yourself a high value man, a catch in every measurable sense - it shouldn't be this hard. And when I say hard, I mean when it comes to attracting girls you find to be stunners. I have no motivation or interest to game girls online that barely pass my boner test, if at all. Just for the sake of adding notches. I'm talking about girls that make you say "wow, I want that." Not girls where you say "well I haven't fucked in a month so, let's do this, I guess."

The goal/ideal situation for me right now is to just have 1 girl who I feel an insane amount of attraction for, both physically and personality wise. Just a cool ass chick that doesn't make everything a power struggle over who cares less about the relationship. Have a casual, wild-sex-filled summer with her in a non exclusive setting, and after those few months of getting to know her, figure out if I want to finally take the plunge into LTR.

But this bullshit of opening up girls, coming up with texts to hook them, dealing with flakes, dealing with unanswered texts - it's burning me out. It also sucks because I'm looking for a girl that's cultured. Not a bar hopping, reality tv watching, social media quasi-celeb.

Just really cynical about the quality I'm seeing out here, and when I do in fact find the quality I want, it's always some bullshit I have to deal with in order to get things going. The amount of effort I'm putting in does not equate to the output I'm receiving.

And like I mentioned, it's especially difficult when, you give yourself as honest an assessment as you can, and you consider yourself quite a catch, and the results that you're looking for are just not there.

It's like a healthy athlete in his prime, in a funk that he can't explain. He trains hard, he knows the game, but he's just not producing the way he feels he should be.

Whatever.

Post: #4761

(03-08-2015 03:55 PM)Mister X Wrote:  Been feeling a bit jaded lately.

I feel like I'm a catch, and girls should be excited to hear from me. I don't care how many orbiters or other dudes in the running she has hitting her up, when my name pops up on her phone, time should freeze for her. And maybe that's egotistical and hard to come by especially in the current dating climate with all the distractions and thirst from other dudes polluting the airwaves. But still.

You put in the work to make yourself a high value man, a catch in every measurable sense - it shouldn't be this hard. And when I say hard, I mean when it comes to attracting girls you find to be stunners. I have no motivation or interest to game girls online that barely pass my boner test, if at all. Just for the sake of adding notches. I'm talking about girls that make you say "wow, I want that." Not girls where you say "well I haven't fucked in a month so, let's do this, I guess."


And like I mentioned, it's especially difficult when, you give yourself as honest an assessment as you can, and you consider yourself quite a catch, and the results that you're looking for are just not there.

It's like a healthy athlete in his prime, in a funk that he can't explain. He trains hard, he knows the game, but he's just not producing the way he feels he should be.

Whatever.

I feel you bro. I'm often in the same situation. It's worse when you are not the only one thinking the same.

My redpill bros all say the same thing when I talk to them "Dude you aint got nothing to worry about girl. You are attractive, have been all over the world, know all the cool places, are fun to talk to, are a pro dancer and martial artist. Girls should be happy to be with you. If not it's their loss"

Yeah, but still I don't see the success I want.

I think part of it its what others have said here. When you have a mentality that you deserve something, that the world owes you something, you are unable to achieve complete indifference. You get frustrated when things don't go well and that negativity spill over into your inner game and girls can smell it.

Other problem may lies in presentation. Lots of guys are a good catch but don't know how to market/present it well. Lots of game techniques is about presenting yourself in the most desirable ways. I've much to learn in this area.

Quote:The goal/ideal situation for me right now is to just have 1 girl who I feel an insane amount of attraction for, both physically and personality wise. Just a cool ass chick that doesn't make everything a power struggle over who cares less about the relationship. Have a casual, wild-sex-filled summer with her in a non exclusive setting, and after those few months of getting to know her, figure out if I want to finally take the plunge into LTR.

I did that too and was in a 8 months LTR with the perfect feminine LTR we talk about here, except that physically she is a 6.5 not a 8. And it will not work. I consider myself loyal/faithful unto death but after a few months I started gaming other girls left and right. Unless you are experienced in harem management and keeping emotion in check, this will fuck you up the ass with a spiked rod in the beginning. My LTR didn't last long after I met a girl much more attractive than my ex.

Quote:But this bullshit of opening up girls, coming up with texts to hook them, dealing with flakes, dealing with unanswered texts - it's burning me out. It also sucks because I'm looking for a girl that's cultured. Not a bar hopping, reality tv watching, social media quasi-celeb.

This is the reality we have to deal with and people don't like to talk about it much here because it sucks and happens to everyone. It's extremely soul crushing, which is why very few men are able to stay redpill long term.

Remember that Roosh and most successful players are that way because they overcome what we are facing here. Just keep going

EDIT: not a week goes by without me thinking "I can't make it, this is just too much for me" despite going out and talking to numerous girls. Once you go redpill you basically have to filter out 70% of what you see and hear everyday and have to opt out of most conversations/activities your beta friends do, so sometimes it's very lonely and depressing. But when you consider the alternative (living the beta lifestyle and dealing with all the BS) AND the reasons you went redpill in the first place, you would go "Fuck giving up I would die fighting" in a heartbeat.

Then every now and then you run into some girls that make you say "this whole thing is worth it". Then you come back stronger.

As my favorite RVF member Onto puts it, "like the bird who died flying high into the sun, out of his ashes rose the phoenix"

Post: #4762

(03-08-2015 04:26 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  I feel you bro. I'm often in the same situation. It's worse when you are not the only one thinking the same.

My redpill bros all say the same thing when I talk to them "Dude you aint got nothing to worry about girl. You are attractive, have been all over the world, know all the cool places, are fun to talk to, are a pro dancer and martial artist. Girls should be happy to be with you. If not it's their loss"

Yeah, but still I don't see the success I want.

That's how I feel. I know logically you can't explain to a girl "look, these are the reasons why I should be prying you off my cock, as opposed to bending over backwards just to get you to have a fucking coffee with me." I understand attraction is not logical. It's just, when developing game, and finding your style, and your niche, you take a look at yourself - what can I improve? What attracts women? - and you work on those things. You come to a place like this and read up on what's been generally effective and you add it to your game. And admittedly, I have made improvements, and have seen results, but not at the rate I expected or am content with. It could be a personal thing. I'm picky, and I know what I like. Some guys are cool with expending energy to bang out girls they don't even feel attracted to, just cuz. I'm different. If I don't have that primal, lock you up all weekend and fuck your brains out feeling when I see them, I'm just not interested. It's a waste of time, otherwise. At least to me.

Quote:I think part of it its what others have said here. When you have a mentality that you deserve something, that the world owes you something, you are unable to achieve complete indifference. You get frustrated when things don't go well and that negativity spill over into your inner game and girls can smell it.

True. For anyone who watches It's Always Sunny, I feel like Dennis anytime he doesn't get the bang. It boggles his mind and rocks his world. I don't go off on girls like he does, but the feeling is similar. When I ask a girl "let's ____ this weekend," and her response is a very lukewarm "I'll let you know" as opposed to a very enthusiastic "fuck yes!" -- I can't help but laugh. I'm like (to myself) "lmao are you fucking kidding me? I'm giving this girl the opportunity to hang out with a high quality, masculine, interesting man, and she can take or leave the offer? Is this life?" -- And I'm trying hard to work on that, but I just don't get how we're taught to be our best selves, and develop confidence, and develop this attitude that we're better than any other man she's talking to...and then accept lukewarm reactions if not flat out rejections.

Quote:Other problem may lies in presentation. Lots of guys are a good catch but don't know how to market/present it well. Lots of game techniques is about presenting yourself in the most desirable ways. I've much to learn in this area.

That's true too. But sometimes you can also run the risk of overselling and coming across as try hard or approval seeking. I would prefer the quiet confidence type of set up where I don't have to say or do much, but my vibe alone says I'm a guy worth getting gaga over. I shouldn't be manufacturing it. And it feels like sometimes with girls I have to.

Quote:I did that too and was in a 8 months LTR with the perfect feminine LTR we talk about here, except that physically she is a 6.5 not a 8. And it will not work. I consider myself loyal/faithful unto death but after a few months I started gaming other girls left and right. Unless you are experienced in harem management and keeping emotion in check, this will fuck you up the ass with a spiked rod in the beginning. My LTR didn't last long after I met a girl much more attractive than my ex.

Well I don't want to romanticize the idea of LTRs as I know they have their own issues to deal with, but at the moment I'm just tired of gaming on autopilot. Talking to multiple girls to find the hot leads. I want a girl that says "wow, this guy is a fucking catch, I want to get my fill of Mister X" - I'm tired of having to build up to chemistry, build up to sex, etc. Give me a girl who just "gets it." Her and I hit it off immediately and it's smooth sailing.

Quote:This is the reality we have to deal with and people don't like to talk about it much here because it sucks and happens to everyone. It's extremely soul crushing, which is why very few men are able to stay redpill long term.

Remember that Roosh and most successful players are that way because they overcome what we are facing here. Just keep going

I've just always had this belief of, playing the field in my younger years, getting all that shit out of my system, and then finally settling down with the right girl. But now I'm at a point where it's like, fuck man, I don't even know if the "right girl" exists. Maybe game is forever. Maybe the best we can hope for is a good two to three months of drama-less fun before you fall into a rut and lose attraction to each other and move on. I don't know. I would hate to accept that as a reality. Maybe I'm beta, but I'm just not quite ready to write off the possibility of meeting a girl who ticks off all my boxes and quenches my thirst to have multiple girls.

Shit would just be so much easier if I had one single girl to focus on who's personality meshed with mine and who melted my face off in the bedroom.

Post: #4763

And let's just say, you got guys coming in here with "Well Mister X, it's simple. You're just not as quality as you think you are. Continue working on yourself, continue improving your game, and the results will come."

Fair enough. Let's flash forward six months. Now I'm getting consistent lays from girls I'm highly attracted to. They're giving me less shit tests, and overall, it's just easier for me to go from introduction to bang. I'm enjoying my sex life. Fine. But that's only half of my problem.

The other half is what I touched on above -- it's rare for me to find a girl I would consider cultured, or "different."

I don't want to generalize, but it just feels like the bulk of girls in their 20s can be boiled down to this:

-smartphone abusers
-social media abusers
-attention whores (See social media above)
-party girls

They have no drive, no real purpose for existing, no ambition, no opinions on anything that matter. They just sort of float through life. They binge watch netflix shows, they party on the weekends with their girlfriends, Instagraming pictures of them at the club, instagramming pictures of their starbucks and their kale salads, they tweet about how "nutella is life" or about how shitty it is being a girl because you never know what to wear, or their shoes are too uncomfortable, or they never know how to wear their hair. They watch the E! channel because Channing Tatum is so hawt, Chris Hemsworth is so hawt.

And that's basically it. They don't have opinions on politics or current event. They don't have opinions on films or movies outside of "that was awesome" or "it sucked."

It's just mind numbing bullshit.

After the sex, there just has to be more to it. It can't just be celebrity entertaiment and social media garbage.

I don't want to sound elitist or pretentious but just for me personally, I need more.

I need a girl with passion. A girl with opinions on life. On things that matter. That's what I mean when I say quality is lacking.

Post: #4764

Quote:I've just always had this belief of, playing the field in my younger years, getting all that shit out of my system, and then finally settling down with the right girl. But now I'm at a point where it's like, fuck man, I don't even know if the "right girl" exists. Maybe game is forever. Maybe the best we can hope for is a good two to three months of drama-less fun before you fall into a rut and lose attraction to each other and move on. I don't know. I would hate to accept that as a reality. Maybe I'm beta, but I'm just not quite ready to write off the possibility of meeting a girl who ticks off all my boxes and quenches my thirst to have multiple girls.

Shit would just be so much easier if I had one single girl to focus on who's personality meshed with mine and who melted my face off in the bedroom.

It's a logistics, access and distribution problem...i.e you know what type of girl you want...you could even point her out if she were in a line up...however if she's an 8 or a 9 in terms of personality and looks(and availability), then that type of girl is going to be "sprinkled" among the population according to size and density.

That's why typical game, regardless of skill level, often does a poor job at scoring dream girls consistently...it's more like a lotto ticket..maybe you win the jackpot maybe you don't. ...maybe she will be available...maybe she's already in a relationship and you have to play again and again.

Look at Craig Ferguson's show on CBS. Night after night, they have pretty actresses on who are often single...it's an amazing demonstration of what you can do when you can bring the right women to you rather than chasing them all over town.

I believe accessing 8's and 9's consistently requires more than just traditional game. You have to control the flow of people and interact with many targeted girls in a short period of time. It's the only way to create the right circumstances needed to win.

Post: #4765

(03-08-2015 05:31 PM)Mister X Wrote:  And let's just say, you got guys coming in here with "Well Mister X, it's simple. You're just not as quality as you think you are. Continue working on yourself, continue improving your game, and the results will come."

Fair enough. Let's flash forward six months. Now I'm getting consistent lays from girls I'm highly attracted to. They're giving me less shit tests, and overall, it's just easier for me to go from introduction to bang. I'm enjoying my sex life. Fine. But that's only half of my problem.

The other half is what I touched on above -- it's rare for me to find a girl I would consider cultured, or "different."



It's just mind numbing bullshit.

After the sex, there just has to be more to it. It can't just be celebrity entertaiment and social media garbage.

I don't want to sound elitist or pretentious but just for me personally, I need more.

I need a girl with passion. A girl with opinions on life. On things that matter. That's what I mean when I say quality is lacking.

Funny, I think you and I are in exactly the same mood and situation.

The problem is society is corrupt and the girls you seek are now diamonds in the rough. A good portion of them get corrupted by slutty girlfriends as soon as they leave their father's home.

I just had some long talk with my mentor and wing. I asked him why he keeps sleeping with taken/married girls. The answer is simple. Almost all attractive girls are always taken. He is a very cultured man and has high standard. Girls who fulfill those criteria are like 1%, and are almost always wifed up/LTRed up by guys early.

The "good old days" when you can find a good girl with a good father and traditional upbringing, are over, and we must deal with it.

Don't blame girls, girls are children. They are products of this corrupt decadent society, as most of us are. Blame the fathers who don't know how to raise their daughters. Blame mothers who do not teach their girls to cook, clean and please men. Or the old hags feminists poisoning young generations.

Quote:I don't want to generalize, but it just feels like the bulk of girls in their 20s can be boiled down to this:

-smartphone abusers
-social media abusers
-attention whores (See social media above)
-party girls

They have no drive, no real purpose for existing, no ambition, no opinions on anything that matter. They just sort of float through life. They binge watch netflix shows, they party on the weekends with their girlfriends, Instagraming pictures of them at the club, instagramming pictures of their starbucks and their kale salads, they tweet about how "nutella is life" or about how shitty it is being a girl because you never know what to wear, or their shoes are too uncomfortable, or they never know how to wear their hair. They watch the E! channel because Channing Tatum is so hawt, Chris Hemsworth is so hawt.

Most people in their 20s are. I think guys are even worse than girls in this matter. Getting fat playing magic cards. Dress like fucking chode. No sense of purpose yet with an inflated sense of entitlement. Jerking off to Victoria Secret or playing keyboard warriors on online forum. Bloated walking hamburgers or scrawny living chopsticks walking around in ill-fitting clothes. Pass their time masturbating and watching porn. Oh, and kissing women's ass and ruin it for the rest of us.

Girls wouldn't be attention whores/social media whores if guys don't participate in that sickening game.

Quote:And that's basically it. They don't have opinions on politics or current event. They don't have opinions on films or movies outside of "that was awesome" or "it sucked."

LOL I think it's a lot better than the guys who have VERY STRONG BUT STUPID opinions, and have to do EVERYTHING to make their opinions known. At least you can brush off a girl's opinion as if it didn't matter.

You should get out of America and go to the few pussy paradises left in the world. Find a good girl still young and not yet damaged, LTR her up, stay with her and protect her from the toxic influence of the world. A few small towns in America would do the trick too.

I've not been to EE for long but from the few EE women I know, I can understand why there's so much praise for women in the FSU.

I THINK USA is good for game if you are only looking for some fun and number of notches. There's definitely a glass ceiling when it comes to quality over there. Even if you do manage to find a good girl, the environment and marriage laws will fuck you up.

Have you wondered why we have so many threads here encouraging you to keep gaming even when you have a main girl who makes you happy and complements your life? The fact that a player can never rest is testament that something is very wrong with sexual relations in this society.

In the end, we are still at a young age while the game can be very fun, so I would say enjoy it, and enjoy the decline while you can.

Post: #4766

Here's a brief FB conversation that I had today:

Her: (in Spanish) you don't feel for me as you once did
Her:
Me: (in English) I am not going to respond to your drama
Me: Stop whining
Her: Lol
Her: Ok my son! (in English) Just joking
Her:
Me: Good
Her: <3

Post: #4767

(03-08-2015 06:47 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Funny, I think you and I are in exactly the same mood and situation.

The problem is society is corrupt and the girls you seek are now diamonds in the rough. A good portion of them get corrupted by slutty girlfriends as soon as they leave their father's home.

I just had some long talk with my mentor and wing. I asked him why he keeps sleeping with taken/married girls. The answer is simple. Almost all attractive girls are always taken. He is a very cultured man and has high standard. Girls who fulfill those criteria are like 1%, and are almost always wifed up/LTRed up by guys early.

The "good old days" when you can find a good girl with a good father and traditional upbringing, are over, and we must deal with it.

Don't blame girls, girls are children. They are products of this corrupt decadent society, as most of us are. Blame the fathers who don't know how to raise their daughters. Blame mothers who do not teach their girls to cook, clean and please men. Or the old hags feminists poisoning young generations.

Good girls really are rare. It just pisses me off that, as men, we're required to be all these different things. Yes, you can coast on looks if you're that attractive, but even so, if an average guy with tight game and a killer personality comes in, he's gonna give you fits. He's gonna be a threat. All of us are striving to be more masculine, more interesting, more attractive in a variety of ways. Maybe it's just the way life is, or the way men are because of our thirst - there is not that same pressure on women. The pressure for them is to look good. But after that, it doesn't seem like the building of personality traits is as important to them.

Quote:Most people in their 20s are. I think guys are even worse than girls in this matter. Getting fat playing magic cards. Dress like fucking chode. No sense of purpose yet with an inflated sense of entitlement. Jerking off to Victoria Secret or playing keyboard warriors on online forum. Bloated walking hamburgers or scrawny living chopsticks walking around in ill-fitting clothes. Pass their time masturbating and watching porn. Oh, and kissing women's ass and ruin it for the rest of us.

Girls wouldn't be attention whores/social media whores if guys don't participate in that sickening game.

And I've talked about that before in some thread. The game has changed. You can try to be smooth, and say, "I'm going to ignore her texts and play aloof," but then she posts a picture on Instagram, and it gets 400 likes plus 25 comments from different men talking about how beautiful she is. I mean at that point, she doesn't care so much that you ignored her, if she even noticed to begin with. I've tried doing the "let me pull back and see if she bites" technique. Doesn't really work for me. I'm curious to know...if I stopped texting all these girls on my phone for a week plus - how many would text me first asking where I've been? Have any men on here tried that experiment? I assume the results would be humbling for a lot of dudes.

Quote:LOL I think it's a lot better than the guys who have VERY STRONG BUT STUPID opinions, and have to do EVERYTHING to make their opinions known. At least you can brush off a girl's opinion as if it didn't matter.

You should get out of America and go to the few pussy paradises left in the world. Find a good girl still young and not yet damaged, LTR her up, stay with her and protect her from the toxic influence of the world. A few small towns in America would do the trick too.

I've not been to EE for long but from the few EE women I know, I can understand why there's so much praise for women in the FSU.

I THINK USA is good for game if you are only looking for some fun and number of notches. There's definitely a glass ceiling when it comes to quality over there. Even if you do manage to find a good girl, the environment and marriage laws will fuck you up.

Have you wondered why we have so many threads here encouraging you to keep gaming even when you have a main girl who makes you happy and complements your life? The fact that a player can never rest is testament that something is very wrong with sexual relations in this society.

In the end, we are still at a young age while the game can be very fun, so I would say enjoy it, and enjoy the decline while you can.

I have heard quite a few good things about some other parts of the world. And maybe it is in fact a Western thing. But even then, it would at best be a momentary escape. I can't see myself uprooting my life just for sex/relationships. As much as I'm cynical about the current dating climate, I still do like a lot of things about this country.

Post: #4768

(03-02-2015 07:10 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-20-2015 11:28 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 09:29 PM)Roardog Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 11:59 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 06:35 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Went on a date last night with this girl who plays with her hair alot. She's constantly putting it up or letting it down or whatever.
Anyway, she is sitting with her back to a wall where there are some tea candles alight. About half way through our date I notice smoke rising above her head, then I see a flame and then she smells it and freaks out. Bitch set her hair on fire!

That trumps the previously most hilarious thing I've seen on a date which was when this girl tripped in her heels and fell down the flight of stairs into the bar we were meeting at.

Best thing I heard this morning yet ! The good news is she won't ever forget this date for you, the bad new is she might be that horrified/embarrassed that she'll never want to see you again.

It depends on how you reacted and how the date went after the hair incident. I'm thinking you can coax her out for a second date pretty easy with this story.

This happened about half way through our date and I just laughed at her and teased her about it. I think it was a good thing as it didn't do her any real harm but made the date and therefore me memorable.
I don't think it embarrassed her enough to not want to see me again or anything as she stuck around afterwards and gave me plenty of IOI's. We had a decent make out at the end of the date so I'm confident of seeing her again.

Will actually use this incident in my follow up text I think.

Followed up with her Friday arvo (she is studying and uni hasn't gone back yet so texting her during the day is better than at night) with a line about getting the smell of burning hair out of my car. Her response was negative and logical which annoyed me as I thought it was a funny line.
Anyway, I let it go as it was Friday night but negged her about it this afternoon and now have another date set up for next week.

It's always something with this chick. She has rescheduled every date at least once. All her excuses are legit but damn, once is chance, twice is coincidence but third time is enemy activity.
She rescheduled our first date because her back flared up and then it went ahead on the second attempt.
It was then over a month to a our second date (the one in the quoted post above) as it got rescheduled twice, once due to me and once due to her having some kind of family issue.
Now for our 3rd date she already cancelled on me last week due to having a big night the night before and being wrecked. That actually worked out well for me because I'd done the same thing and the early night was welcome. Now she apparently has food poisoning (gave me the heads up on Sunday) and doesn't think she'll be recovered for our date on Tuesday.

Like I said, it all seems legit but it's like the universe is out to stop me banging this chick.
I'm thinking about just nexting her as it's becoming a pain in the arse and I can't be bothered dealing with it but she is really hot.

I want to call her out on her flakiness as it's pissing me off.

She's finally recovered from her bout of food poisoning and we've got date #3 rescheduled for tomorrow night. It's not ideal for me as I'll be coming straight from a late work meeting (I initially said Wednesday but she couldn't and Tuesday is the only other day I have free) so I've scheduled for us to meet at a hip mexican restaurant so I can get some food. I hate this as I'm firmly in camp no appetizers.
Still I figure we'll get food and then bounce to a bar nearby. The bar I wanted to go to isn't open on a Tuesday night I've just discovered so instead I have two choices:

A. Cocktail bar
B. Dive bar with free pool table

Our first 2 dates were at cocktail bars so I feel like mixing it up now and throwing in an activity i.e. pool, however she is an upmarket girl so I'm wondering if it's the best idea to take her to a dive bar.

Post: #4769

Got a date with an old plate on Thursday, hopefully bang will be as good as usual.

Post: #4770

(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Gio

Why would the 2nd date be more commitment-heavy?

If you kissed her and caressed her body on the first date..

Then, she knows that you will try to go even further on the 2nd date..

This puts pressure on her to "put out".

If she wants to fuck you, this pressure is good because it creates a bit of sexual tension and anticipation.

However, if she is not sure if she wants to fuck you or not, this pressure can be too much for her fragile mind to deal with and it could cause her to pull away.

This is why sometimes the 1st date goes well but then the girl is hesitant and flaky about the 2nd date.

She is not sure. That's why, in my earlier post, I recommended more patience:

(03-06-2015 02:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  The first date goes well, so, guys think that sex is coming soon.

Guys push for a 2nd date, maybe the girl is not available or she is busy or she has to work or she is on her period, etc.

They struggle to set the 2nd date. The guy gets frustrated because things are not moving as quickly as he wanted.

Then, the guy gives up.

This is often a mistake.

If we would just be a little more patient and less eager, often times, the girl will eventually find time for a 2nd date.

Guys are expecting girls to move at the pace of a man. (fast)

But, girls sometimes want to move a little slower. Sometimes, they just have other stuff to do.

Instead of giving up and "nexting" girls, I recommend having a little more patience.

Don't contact her for a week, don't be pushy, don't be needy, don't try to convince her, etc.

Pull back and give her some space.

Constantly pushing for a date is "thirsty"-- And, "thirsty" is unattractive.

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(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  What about girls who go on third date and still don't let things happen?

They don't want to fuck you or they are sexually conservative or they are playing stupid games.

(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  You got it right, the subway, the language barrier, they were all excuses.

I think the deep problem is that my inner game is still not solid.

That's it!

You just diagnosed your biggest problem.

You have an inferiority complex when it comes to beautiful women. You do not feel like you deserve beautiful women.

That's why you were so surprised and stunned when those beautiful girls opened you.

You are good enough for any women on this planet.

It's time for you to start believing that and behaving accordingly!

How to correct this problem?

Do what Travesty444 recommends:

(03-06-2015 08:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  do not allow yourself to hit on ok looking girls ever.

Spend all your energy on hitting on girls you think are hot so it starts to become normal.

Only approach beautiful women.

The more you do this, the more you will realize that not only are you good enough for any of them, but, many of them are not good enough for you.

There is nothing to fear.

You deserve the best.

But, hard work is required.

You've got to EARN the ability the pull beautiful women. It's a skill that doesn't come easy.

Beautiful women are "Paper Tigers"

"they look scary but they are actually very weak"

If you want to fuck hotter women, start approaching hotter women!

That experience will fix your inferiority issues.

Post: #4771

Got sick last week put a hamper on my game.

Literally didn't give a fuck about anything, I got off work early saturday, didn't go to work sunday.

Made a cool $100 bucks fixing 2 laptops while doing house stuff on sunday.

I feel like all my leads from dating apps died this weekend, this whole Tinder like limit is hindering me, which actually is a good thing.

I barely feel like hitting up any leads to see what happens this week.

I had one girl, tell me she'd text me after she gymed, of course that never happened. I hit her up asking if I'm wasting my time today. Got kind of a bitchy response basically saying if I'm expecting a girl to wait on me etc that maybe I am wasting my time. I basically pushed back and said I don't want that, only a set time to hangout since I'm very busy.

I even called another girl and she answered, we talked real quick friday, of course doesn't text me back today.

I've got these 2 other girls who show potential interested.

The biggest downfall this week is the date that went really awesome last week.

She even showed high IOI's of hanging out again.

We were suppose to hangout friday before she went up into the mountains.
-She text me saying we need to hangout earlier, I called her and we agreed.
-Then she text me saying her mom freaked out she was leaving my house that late to go up the mountains.
-She asked to reschedule.

I went radio silent until Sunday and said she owes me a huge raincheck.

Sent a follow up text today asking if she died up there -nothing-

I'm not sure what's going on, I'm hoping she's still up the mountain or super busy.

I'm going radio silent on her until the end of this week then I'll ask the standard "am I wasting my time texting you" line.

I have a feeling the game is telling me just focus on myself, the gym, catch up on work, and enjoy my main for now.

We all have streaks and slumps....I have a feeling I'm in a slump.

Perhaps my body being sick is making me feel this way.

Post: #4772

Right there with you Kaotic. Personally, I haven't done a single approach this year. Been a hell of a year so far personally and I'm finally coming out of that but there I was in Costco today, looking but not seeing anything I liked, and then a good enough 6 (maybe 7) brunette. I had the opportunity, just had to open, but... meh. Just not feeling it. Have a couple women online I could set something up with, but meh.

Is it the winter blues? The weather is finally shaping up and women aren't dressed like they're going to die of frostbite on their trip between their car and the mall.

I know what the problem is, I just have to get out and do some approaches. One half-decent approach with a reasonable IOI and I'll remember how much fun this is.

Post: #4773

(03-09-2015 03:04 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Gio

Why would the 2nd date be more commitment-heavy?

If you kissed her and caressed her body on the first date..

Then, she knows that you will try to go even further on the 2nd date..

This puts pressure on her to "put out".

If she wants to fuck you, this pressure is good because it creates a bit of sexual tension and anticipation.

However, if she is not sure if she wants to fuck you or not, this pressure can be too much for her fragile mind to deal with and it could cause her to pull away.

This is why sometimes the 1st date goes well but then the girl is hesitant and flaky about the 2nd date.

She is not sure. That's why, in my earlier post, I recommended more patience:

(03-06-2015 02:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  The first date goes well, so, guys think that sex is coming soon.

Guys push for a 2nd date, maybe the girl is not available or she is busy or she has to work or she is on her period, etc.

They struggle to set the 2nd date. The guy gets frustrated because things are not moving as quickly as he wanted.

Then, the guy gives up.

This is often a mistake.

If we would just be a little more patient and less eager, often times, the girl will eventually find time for a 2nd date.

Guys are expecting girls to move at the pace of a man. (fast)

But, girls sometimes want to move a little slower. Sometimes, they just have other stuff to do.

Instead of giving up and "nexting" girls, I recommend having a little more patience.

Don't contact her for a week, don't be pushy, don't be needy, don't try to convince her, etc.

Pull back and give her some space.

Constantly pushing for a date is "thirsty"-- And, "thirsty" is unattractive.

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*****

(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  What about girls who go on third date and still don't let things happen?

They don't want to fuck you or they are sexually conservative or they are playing stupid games.

(03-06-2015 07:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  You got it right, the subway, the language barrier, they were all excuses.

I think the deep problem is that my inner game is still not solid.

That's it!

You just diagnosed your biggest problem.

You have an inferiority complex when it comes to beautiful women. You do not feel like you deserve beautiful women.

That's why you were so surprised and stunned when those beautiful girls opened you.

You are good enough for any women on this planet.

It's time for you to start believing that and behaving accordingly!

How to correct this problem?

Do what Travesty444 recommends:

(03-06-2015 08:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  do not allow yourself to hit on ok looking girls ever.

Spend all your energy on hitting on girls you think are hot so it starts to become normal.

Only approach beautiful women.

The more you do this, the more you will realize that not only are you good enough for any of them, but, many of them are not good enough for you.

There is nothing to fear.

You deserve the best.

But, hard work is required.

You've got to EARN the ability the pull beautiful women. It's a skill that doesn't come easy.

Beautiful women are "Paper Tigers"

"they look scary but they are actually very weak"

If you want to fuck hotter women, start approaching hotter women!

That experience will fix your inferiority issues.

How inspired I feel every time I read Gio's post:

Post: #4774

Trust your instincts Kaotic. Unless you're rested and 100% enthusiastic about gaming take a break. I'm rapidly approaching my usual burnout phase and just today deactivated my OKC profile and also shut down discovery on Tinder. I'm feeling more irritable, mentally fatigued and just don't give a shit anymore which is a clear sign that I need to recharge the batteries.

I have a few plates I'm spinning now and will just focus on those until things settle down. I'll be back in full force in a few weeks eager to hunt for new pussy. It's just a normal cycle that I've come to accept and embrace.

Post: #4775

Does this sound familiar to anyone?

“Nothing appeared to make my poor mistress more angry than seeing me, seated in some nook or corner quietly reading a book or a newspaper. I have had her rush at me, with the utmost fury, and snatch from my hand a newspaper or a book, with something of the wrath and consternation which a traitor might supposed to feel on being discovered in a plot by some dangerous spy.”

-Frederick Douglass

Women have always hated when your attention isn't being given to them.