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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
I see a few options:
1. Fuck that and go radio silent. (You don't have much invested and nothing to lose)
2. Tell her that's not cool and explain why. (She might realize it's not cool OR you'll lose her)
3. Bring a solid wingman and game accordingly. (This might be the best option that works in your favor)
4. Threesome. (Go out with both girls and drink, if you have strong frame/game, bang both, it IS spring break afterall and it IS from Seeking Arrangement)
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
No man. Treat it like any other shit test... these girls try to friendzone you out of the gate, you'll never get what you want from her if you let her do this. Just tell her that you want to hang out with her alone and get to know her, she can drop off her friend at some coffee shop or whatever. If she says no, then tell her that's fine and to let you know when she is available to meet solo and hang out.
Just say something like:
XXX, I'm not looking for a threesome at this point though I reserve the right to change my mind later.  If you can drop off your friend somewhere for a while, I'd love to hang out and get to know you; if not, have a great trip and shoot me a message when you're around next time.
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 07:39 PM)robreke Wrote: I love the bravado of asking for a threesome per kaotic and The Lizard, but I took the more pragmatic Lizard/ Mr. XY blend telling her I wanted to meet with just her and be discreet. She agreed.
On another note.....two other lizards I've hit up from SA also want to meet for lunch tomorrow as THEY ARE ON Their way to Spring Break ALSO.....yes, my town is kind of a conduit for the coastal areal
I agreed with one earlier and she said "I'll be there...I usually do a first date allowance of 200 does that work for you?"
No...that doesn't work for me. I'm thinking of saying 'look I'll buy you lunch and explain what I'm looking for'....which is someone to go out with, bang and treat a little nicer lifestyle from time to time as my payroll can take care of that no problemo. not to mention she's 19 and quite hot. sorority girl type.
But, that may be a wasted cause to even try to explain to a girl with this mindset as this is basically an escort mindset....
The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 08:37 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 07:39 PM)robreke Wrote: I love the bravado of asking for a threesome per kaotic and The Lizard, but I took the more pragmatic Lizard/ Mr. XY blend telling her I wanted to meet with just her and be discreet. She agreed.
On another note.....two other lizards I've hit up from SA also want to meet for lunch tomorrow as THEY ARE ON Their way to Spring Break ALSO.....yes, my town is kind of a conduit for the coastal areal
I agreed with one earlier and she said "I'll be there...I usually do a first date allowance of 200 does that work for you?"
No...that doesn't work for me. I'm thinking of saying 'look I'll buy you lunch and explain what I'm looking for'....which is someone to go out with, bang and treat a little nicer lifestyle from time to time as my payroll can take care of that no problemo. not to mention she's 19 and quite hot. sorority girl type.
But, that may be a wasted cause to even try to explain to a girl with this mindset as this is basically an escort mindset....
The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
Actually all these girls in question ARE chasing me....if you can call it that.
I had exchanged messages with them earlier in the week. Then, today...I had two of them message me that they wanted to meet me tomorrow.
The reason all are wanting to meet tomorrow is it's now spring break at a particular state college where these 2 girls go to school ( these two don't know each other...just happen to be on SA)
One of them hinted at allowance and one hasn't mentioned it. The one who hasn't mentioned it was the girl who wanted to bring her friend.
I told her 'no' to the friend thing and she agreed. So, I'm 'forced' to do daytime meetings tomorrow as these girls are driving down to the beach for spring break and they're just passing through my town tomorrow on the way.
But, they both texted me first today saying they'd be in town tomorrow on the way to spring break and want to meet.
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Saweeep
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 08:45 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:37 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 07:39 PM)robreke Wrote: I love the bravado of asking for a threesome per kaotic and The Lizard, but I took the more pragmatic Lizard/ Mr. XY blend telling her I wanted to meet with just her and be discreet. She agreed.
On another note.....two other lizards I've hit up from SA also want to meet for lunch tomorrow as THEY ARE ON Their way to Spring Break ALSO.....yes, my town is kind of a conduit for the coastal areal
I agreed with one earlier and she said "I'll be there...I usually do a first date allowance of 200 does that work for you?"
No...that doesn't work for me. I'm thinking of saying 'look I'll buy you lunch and explain what I'm looking for'....which is someone to go out with, bang and treat a little nicer lifestyle from time to time as my payroll can take care of that no problemo. not to mention she's 19 and quite hot. sorority girl type.
But, that may be a wasted cause to even try to explain to a girl with this mindset as this is basically an escort mindset....
The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
Actually all these girls in question ARE chasing me....if you can call it that.
I had exchanged messages with them earlier in the week. Then, today...I had two of them message me that they wanted to meet me tomorrow.
The reason all are wanting to meet tomorrow is it's now spring break at a particular state college where these 2 girls go to school ( these two don't know each other...just happen to be on SA)
One of them hinted at allowance and one hasn't mentioned it. The one who hasn't mentioned it was the girl who wanted to bring her friend.
I told her 'no' to the friend thing and she agreed. So, I'm 'forced' to do daytime meetings tomorrow as these girls are driving down to the beach for spring break and they're just passing through my town tomorrow on the way.
But, they both texted me first today saying they'd be in town tomorrow on the way to spring break and want to meet.
Well, all I would be thinking in this situation is:
How can I bang one of them? Today/tomorrow.
Are the logistics possible?
Will she drink any alcohol if she thinks she's driving?
Does she absolutely have to be anywhere that evening?
I'd be screening for all these answers before committing to anything.
Don't forget, in their eyes, you are a high value man. Flaking on them will actually increase your value in their eyes. So if the logistics aren't down, cancel.
As for allowance girl, I'd have not replied for a while then just texted her "lol" if we already had enough attraction built (she'd know she was just doing a hail mary shit test) or something along the lines of "be a good girl tomorrow and we will talk over drinks" if not, trying to regain frame of dominance.
Just be careful that you aren't just being lined up as a pocket money stop on the way to spring break.
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 08:53 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:45 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:37 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 07:39 PM)robreke Wrote: I love the bravado of asking for a threesome per kaotic and The Lizard, but I took the more pragmatic Lizard/ Mr. XY blend telling her I wanted to meet with just her and be discreet. She agreed.
On another note.....two other lizards I've hit up from SA also want to meet for lunch tomorrow as THEY ARE ON Their way to Spring Break ALSO.....yes, my town is kind of a conduit for the coastal areal
I agreed with one earlier and she said "I'll be there...I usually do a first date allowance of 200 does that work for you?"
No...that doesn't work for me. I'm thinking of saying 'look I'll buy you lunch and explain what I'm looking for'....which is someone to go out with, bang and treat a little nicer lifestyle from time to time as my payroll can take care of that no problemo. not to mention she's 19 and quite hot. sorority girl type.
But, that may be a wasted cause to even try to explain to a girl with this mindset as this is basically an escort mindset....
The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
Actually all these girls in question ARE chasing me....if you can call it that.
I had exchanged messages with them earlier in the week. Then, today...I had two of them message me that they wanted to meet me tomorrow.
The reason all are wanting to meet tomorrow is it's now spring break at a particular state college where these 2 girls go to school ( these two don't know each other...just happen to be on SA)
One of them hinted at allowance and one hasn't mentioned it. The one who hasn't mentioned it was the girl who wanted to bring her friend.
I told her 'no' to the friend thing and she agreed. So, I'm 'forced' to do daytime meetings tomorrow as these girls are driving down to the beach for spring break and they're just passing through my town tomorrow on the way.
But, they both texted me first today saying they'd be in town tomorrow on the way to spring break and want to meet.
Well, all I would be thinking in this situation is:
How can I bang one of them? Today/tomorrow.
Are the logistics possible?
Will she drink any alcohol if she thinks she's driving?
Does she absolutely have to be anywhere that evening?
I'd be screening for all these answers before committing to anything.
Don't forget, in their eyes, you are a high value man. Flaking on them will actually increase your value in their eyes. So if the logistics aren't down, cancel.
As for allowance girl, I'd have not replied for a while then just texted her "lol" if we already had enough attraction built (she'd know she was just doing a hail mary shit test) or something along the lines of "be a good girl tomorrow and we will talk over drinks" if not, trying to regain frame of dominance.
Just be careful that you aren't just being lined up as a pocket money stop on the way to spring break.
Solid advice.
As for the one girl who wanted to bring her friend to the date...Her friend WILL BE WITH Her....it's just that the friend is going to go shopping while I'm on the coffee date with the SA girl.
Therefore, the potential of getting a bang from a coffee date when her friend is down the strip mall way dress shopping....is highly unlikely. Also...if it matters this girl is a grade school teacher.
It seems she just wants to "meet" me on the way to spring break to determine if we would be a good match.
I was hoping I could have a good date with this girl, hopefully get the kiss....and establish comfort/attraction for an eventual dating arrangement down the line when she returns from spring break.
Are you suggesting I refuse this date since the logistics and probability for a bang are kind of low and go for the date at a later time?
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 09:03 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:53 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:45 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:37 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 07:39 PM)robreke Wrote: I love the bravado of asking for a threesome per kaotic and The Lizard, but I took the more pragmatic Lizard/ Mr. XY blend telling her I wanted to meet with just her and be discreet. She agreed.
On another note.....two other lizards I've hit up from SA also want to meet for lunch tomorrow as THEY ARE ON Their way to Spring Break ALSO.....yes, my town is kind of a conduit for the coastal areal
I agreed with one earlier and she said "I'll be there...I usually do a first date allowance of 200 does that work for you?"
No...that doesn't work for me. I'm thinking of saying 'look I'll buy you lunch and explain what I'm looking for'....which is someone to go out with, bang and treat a little nicer lifestyle from time to time as my payroll can take care of that no problemo. not to mention she's 19 and quite hot. sorority girl type.
But, that may be a wasted cause to even try to explain to a girl with this mindset as this is basically an escort mindset....
The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
Actually all these girls in question ARE chasing me....if you can call it that.
I had exchanged messages with them earlier in the week. Then, today...I had two of them message me that they wanted to meet me tomorrow.
The reason all are wanting to meet tomorrow is it's now spring break at a particular state college where these 2 girls go to school ( these two don't know each other...just happen to be on SA)
One of them hinted at allowance and one hasn't mentioned it. The one who hasn't mentioned it was the girl who wanted to bring her friend.
I told her 'no' to the friend thing and she agreed. So, I'm 'forced' to do daytime meetings tomorrow as these girls are driving down to the beach for spring break and they're just passing through my town tomorrow on the way.
But, they both texted me first today saying they'd be in town tomorrow on the way to spring break and want to meet.
Well, all I would be thinking in this situation is:
How can I bang one of them? Today/tomorrow.
Are the logistics possible?
Will she drink any alcohol if she thinks she's driving?
Does she absolutely have to be anywhere that evening?
I'd be screening for all these answers before committing to anything.
Don't forget, in their eyes, you are a high value man. Flaking on them will actually increase your value in their eyes. So if the logistics aren't down, cancel.
As for allowance girl, I'd have not replied for a while then just texted her "lol" if we already had enough attraction built (she'd know she was just doing a hail mary shit test) or something along the lines of "be a good girl tomorrow and we will talk over drinks" if not, trying to regain frame of dominance.
Just be careful that you aren't just being lined up as a pocket money stop on the way to spring break.
Solid advice.
As for the one girl who wanted to bring her friend to the date...Her friend WILL BE WITH Her....it's just that the friend is going to go shopping while I'm on the coffee date with the SA girl.
Therefore, the potential of getting a bang from a coffee date when her friend is down the strip mall way dress shopping....is highly unlikely. Also...if it matters this girl is a grade school teacher.
It seems she just wants to "meet" me on the way to spring break to determine if we would be a good match.
I was hoping I could have a good date with this girl, hopefully get the kiss....and establish comfort/attraction for an eventual dating arrangement down the line when she returns from spring break.
Are you suggesting I refuse this date since the logistics and probability for a bang are kind of low and go for the date at a later time?
If I was in your shoes, yeah, I'd cancel with some DHV but whimsy reason; one that's not so serious that you HAD to cancel but that is preferable to you.
I don't know a lot about spring break culture, but is it normal for adults, i.e. school teachers to be doing this stuff? You may well have a party girl on your hands and we all know what happens when you don't fuck them on the first date...they vanish.
The thing is, no matter how massive an impression you make tomorrow over coffee, these girls are going to meet a tonne of guys over the next week/few days/whatever. They'll probably end up banging a guy or two. You'll be forgotten about, most likely...no matter how tight your game. Re-engaging will be a whole lot harder.
I'd be thinking...well she's driven down here once now, so theres no reason why she can't do it again in a couple of weeks or whatever.
Also, you need to stop using the term arrangement. I think it's clouding your thought process.
There should be no "dating arrangement". These girls are just like any others. The whole point of SA game is just getting them in front of you, essentially. Once that happens, treat them like any other girl.
In fact, treat them worse. Promise this works
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RE: Girl wants to bring friend on first SA date...
(03-06-2015 09:13 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 09:03 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:53 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:45 PM)robreke Wrote: (03-06-2015 08:37 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote: The fact that you are getting these issues suggests to me that you aren't quite getting it right in your communication from the start.
I think you must be coming across as betabux here instead of rich-fun-alpha.
If SA girls aren't chasing YOU, something is wrong with your SA game.
Frankly, the fact that you are taking these girls out for lunch at all is a mistake in my experience; you should be meeting them for drinks only, just like any other girl. Sure, in a nice place or whatever, but still only drinks.
If you're too keen to invest resources from the off, it's giving off the wrong vibe.
Are you planning on meeting two girls at the same time?
Actually all these girls in question ARE chasing me....if you can call it that.
I had exchanged messages with them earlier in the week. Then, today...I had two of them message me that they wanted to meet me tomorrow.
The reason all are wanting to meet tomorrow is it's now spring break at a particular state college where these 2 girls go to school ( these two don't know each other...just happen to be on SA)
One of them hinted at allowance and one hasn't mentioned it. The one who hasn't mentioned it was the girl who wanted to bring her friend.
I told her 'no' to the friend thing and she agreed. So, I'm 'forced' to do daytime meetings tomorrow as these girls are driving down to the beach for spring break and they're just passing through my town tomorrow on the way.
But, they both texted me first today saying they'd be in town tomorrow on the way to spring break and want to meet.
Well, all I would be thinking in this situation is:
How can I bang one of them? Today/tomorrow.
Are the logistics possible?
Will she drink any alcohol if she thinks she's driving?
Does she absolutely have to be anywhere that evening?
I'd be screening for all these answers before committing to anything.
Don't forget, in their eyes, you are a high value man. Flaking on them will actually increase your value in their eyes. So if the logistics aren't down, cancel.
As for allowance girl, I'd have not replied for a while then just texted her "lol" if we already had enough attraction built (she'd know she was just doing a hail mary shit test) or something along the lines of "be a good girl tomorrow and we will talk over drinks" if not, trying to regain frame of dominance.
Just be careful that you aren't just being lined up as a pocket money stop on the way to spring break.
Solid advice.
As for the one girl who wanted to bring her friend to the date...Her friend WILL BE WITH Her....it's just that the friend is going to go shopping while I'm on the coffee date with the SA girl.
Therefore, the potential of getting a bang from a coffee date when her friend is down the strip mall way dress shopping....is highly unlikely. Also...if it matters this girl is a grade school teacher.
It seems she just wants to "meet" me on the way to spring break to determine if we would be a good match.
I was hoping I could have a good date with this girl, hopefully get the kiss....and establish comfort/attraction for an eventual dating arrangement down the line when she returns from spring break.
Are you suggesting I refuse this date since the logistics and probability for a bang are kind of low and go for the date at a later time?
If I was in your shoes, yeah, I'd cancel with some DHV but whimsy reason; one that's not so serious that you HAD to cancel but that is preferable to you.
I don't know a lot about spring break culture, but is it normal for adults, i.e. school teachers to be doing this stuff? You may well have a party girl on your hands and we all know what happens when you don't fuck them on the first date...they vanish.
The thing is, no matter how massive an impression you make tomorrow over coffee, these girls are going to meet a tonne of guys over the next week/few days/whatever. They'll probably end up banging a guy or two. You'll be forgotten about, most likely...no matter how tight your game. Re-engaging will be a whole lot harder.
I'd be thinking...well she's driven down here once now, so theres no reason why she can't do it again in a couple of weeks or whatever.
Also, you need to stop using the term arrangement. I think it's clouding your thought process.
There should be no "dating arrangement". These girls are just like any others. The whole point of SA game is just getting them in front of you, essentially. Once that happens, treat them like any other girl.
In fact, treat them worse. Promise this works 
Interesting assessment. If I follow your suggestion, I'd be going from having a date, a sure opportunity to meet with her, to canceling and hoping I could get another one after her spring break.
Your rationale is that spring break will cloudy/muddle her memory/warm fuzzies she gets from me on this first date which will make any second date highly unlikely.
I admit, I would find it hard to cancel a definite date ( tomorrow) with a young hottie.
I'll think this over....
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