(02-13-2015 01:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 01:15 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  shows me how fucked up western girls have become.

It's not just "Western" girls.

"Eastern" girls are also known to manipulate men for money.

Russian women, Southeast Asian women, Filipino women, etc.

They are all known for gold digging, lying, and scheming to separate a man from his money.

This is not just a "Western" thing, this is happens around the world!

**

I am on a one man mission to defend "Western Civilization"!

Lol you just need to team up with Little Dark

Coming from Vietnam I would be the first one to say that Asian girls are even more materialistic than Western girls. Coupled with the fact that you MUST pay for dates, and that's why I'm in France. The thing is, while that is their nature they NEVER flaunt it or be openly proud of it "Oh gosh a guy took me to 150 euros dinner I must be awesom!" In fact it's social suicide for a girl to be considered gold digger.

Another semi-successful winged date:

34 year old (I know, shutup ) cute blonde from OKC, cute face, booty for a white girl.

She flaked twice, called her on her BS, very apologetic, didn't think much of her after, she texts me weds to see if I was free Thursday, I say sure (I was thinking of flaking on her)

Did a quick leg day after work, I was near her hood, she lives by the beach, so I said fuck it why not, drove down met her on the main street where the bars are at.

We stay at one venue have a drink and talk about our lives, she's a talker and I can completely tell she's very shy and doesn't date much.

She's been married TWICE (on "paper") and has a 16 year old and a 9 year old from the first marriage.

We talk about guns and shooting and she's trying to show me how she aims.

She spills her drink on my fuckin favorite button up and black pants.

She helps me dry off and gives me some kino, she doesn't even drink her second drink and get's an appetizer.

I'm pretty buzzed by now, we talk about hockey and favorite movies.

I drop bait, suggesting we go watch a certain movie back at her place.

She agrees we close out and she pays for her appetizer and drink, I pay the rest.

We get to her house, gives me a tour, it's a cool little beach house.

We lay down on the couch, watch a bit of the movie, I just grab and kiss her.

As soon as I kiss and pull her hair she starts, moaning and I think this in the bag.

We get hot and heavy, start sucking on her titties, she's loving every little bit of it, I get up and pull her hand behind me guiding her to her bedroom.

....only for her to pull back and tell me "we're not having sex on the first date, I don't want to give you the wrong impression"


Yeah, you're topless making out with a dude you just met in little over 2 hours, while your kids are away. Come on now.

I escalate again, 2 steps forward 1 step back. Dry humping, rubbing over our pants, etc.

When in doubt, whip it out. I did, guide her hand, she starts cranking me out.

I go inside her pants and she's a bit startled, she tells me again she doesn't want to give me the wrong impression.

By now I'm fading fast and so is she, so I say fuck it and walk to her bed and pass out, she comes in after cleaning up.

Wake up and I bail.

I might see her again, if she comes to me this time, this was just a random adventure and I had a free night.

Then again maybe not.

(02-13-2015 01:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I am on a one man mission to defend "Western Civilization"!

I knew you were going to say something about Dalaran's post lol.

(02-13-2015 01:27 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 01:15 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  shows me how fucked up western girls have become.

It's not just "Western" girls.

"Eastern" girls are also known to manipulate men for money.

Russian women, Southeast Asian women, Filipino women, etc.

They are all known for gold digging, lying, and scheming to separate a man from his money.

This is not just a "Western" thing, this is happens around the world!

**

I am on a one man mission to defend "Western Civilization"!

+1

Western women vs Eastern women is pointless. The true nature of a woman remains the same, what changes is the environment and culture.

(02-13-2015 01:59 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Another semi-successful winged date:

34 year old (I know, shutup ) cute blonde from OKC, cute face, booty for a white girl.

She flaked twice, called her on her BS, very apologetic, didn't think much of her after, she texts me weds to see if I was free Thursday, I say sure (I was thinking of flaking on her)

Did a quick leg day after work, I was near her hood, she lives by the beach, so I said fuck it why not, drove down met her on the main street where the bars are at.

We stay at one venue have a drink and talk about our lives, she's a talker and I can completely tell she's very shy and doesn't date much.

She's been married TWICE (on "paper") and has a 16 year old and a 9 year old from the first marriage.

We talk about guns and shooting and she's trying to show me how she aims.

She spills her drink on my fuckin favorite button up and black pants.

She helps me dry off and gives me some kino, she doesn't even drink her second drink and get's an appetizer.

I'm pretty buzzed by now, we talk about hockey and favorite movies.

I drop bait, suggesting we go watch a certain movie back at her place.

She agrees we close out and she pays for her appetizer and drink, I pay the rest.

We get to her house, gives me a tour, it's a cool little beach house.

We lay down on the couch, watch a bit of the movie, I just grab and kiss her.

As soon as I kiss and pull her hair she starts, moaning and I think this in the bag.

We get hot and heavy, start sucking on her titties, she's loving every little bit of it, I get up and pull her hand behind me guiding her to her bedroom.

....only for her to pull back and tell me "we're not having sex on the first date, I don't want to give you the wrong impression"


Yeah, you're topless making out with a dude you just met in little over 2 hours, while your kids are away. Come on now.

I escalate again, 2 steps forward 1 step back. Dry humping, rubbing over our pants, etc.

When in doubt, whip it out. I did, guide her hand, she starts cranking me out.

I go inside her pants and she's a bit startled, she tells me again she doesn't want to give me the wrong impression.

By now I'm fading fast and so is she, so I say fuck it and walk to her bed and pass out, she comes in after cleaning up.

Wake up and I bail.

I might see her again, if she comes to me this time, this was just a random adventure and I had a free night.

Then again maybe not.

I always find it fun when single moms think that a man will bring her for drinks, and then want her for something else than sex.

Interesting occurrence just now.

I check my FB and some girl I met months ago but never texted me back messages me out of the blue (she added me in person). Interestingly it was soon after I changed my profile picture to probably the handsomest photo of me. I can't be certain it's related to that but it might be.

First time this has happened to me.

Leaning toward a normal response that indicates nothing happened and going on with my normal game (much as I would rather not do it on FB). If I detect signs she just wants validation I'll be dropping it.

Any advice on how to proceed?

Had a girl over, following the Zero Date Bang recipe. 22 y/o, 7 face, 8 body, gym instructor.

Everything's going like clockwork. Drinking wine. Listening to music. Vibing.

I sit on the floor by the bed and tell her to come. Heavy kino. She's biting her lip. Make out. Loving the moment.

Move to the bed. Her clothes come off effortlessly. I'm all over her, she's gushing. Give her a clit O. No LMR. She takes my dick and puts it in.

I go soft within a f-ing minute.



She's jerking it. No go. Can't get it up.

Things wind down. Embrace/make out for another 2 hours, just talking, but it's just not happening. Still, she's being very affectionate this whole time.

I just didn't know what the F to do. This has, literally, never happened to me before.

She gets up to leave. I look her dead in the eye and say "Let's do this again, properly." She agrees. I go "I'm serious". She goes "I'm serious too, don't you believe me?"

Kiss her goodbye and she goes.

This is a moment of defeat for me and I just need to know, from you guys experience, if you've ever salvaged something like this. Definitely a learning experience and I'm trying to treat it as such. Thing is, she's in the same program as me (she's a freshman, I'm junior) and I'm paranoid this will spread like wildfire among her peers. She seemed cool but we all know women talk.

Feel like shit, haha!

(02-13-2015 04:34 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Had a girl over, following the Zero Date Bang recipe. 22 y/o, 7 face, 8 body, gym instructor.

Everything's going like clockwork. Drinking wine. Listening to music. Vibing.

I sit on the floor by the bed and tell her to come. Heavy kino. She's biting her lip. Make out. Loving the moment.

Move to the bed. Her clothes come off effortlessly. I'm all over her, she's gushing. Give her a clit O. No LMR. She takes my dick and puts it in.

I go soft within a f-ing minute.



She's jerking it. No go. Can't get it up.

Things wind down. Embrace/make out for another 2 hours, just talking, but it's just not happening. Still, she's being very affectionate this whole time.

I just didn't know what the F to do. This has, literally, never happened to me before.

She gets up to leave. I look her dead in the eye and say "Let's do this again, properly." She agrees. I go "I'm serious". She goes "I'm serious too, don't you believe me?"

Kiss her goodbye and she goes.

This is a moment of defeat for me and I just need to know, from you guys experience, if you've ever salvaged something like this. Definitely a learning experience and I'm trying to treat it as such. Thing is, she's in the same program as me (she's a freshman, I'm junior) and I'm paranoid this will spread like wildfire among her peers. She seemed cool but we all know women talk.

Feel like shit, haha!

Holy shit man, the exact same thing, exact same thing, happened to me last year with a solid 8 brunette with long flowing hair past her back!

Smoothest pull of my life too. No LMR, and bam my dick goes soft.

I literally wanted to rip my head and dick off my body. She was still very affectionate though. We tried again after a few hours but still nothing. I was furious.

She stayed for the night and we went on another date but then she disappear. How can I blame her.

And this NEVER happened to me before! I used to have the opposite problem. I can stay hard for 4-5 hour straight but can not come. That's how I landed my ex, was fucking her 3h non-stop and she thought I was god. Now comes the hottest girl I ever pulled and I fucking go soft.

(02-13-2015 01:59 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Yeah, you're topless making out with a dude you just met in little over 2 hours, while your kids are away. Come on now.

I escalate again, 2 steps forward 1 step back. Dry humping, rubbing over our pants, etc.

When in doubt, whip it out. I did, guide her hand, she starts cranking me out.

I go inside her pants and she's a bit startled, she tells me again she doesn't want to give me the wrong impression.

By now I'm fading fast and so is she, so I say fuck it and walk to her bed and pass out, she comes in after cleaning up.

Wake up and I bail.

I might see her again, if she comes to me this time, this was just a random adventure and I had a free night.

Then again maybe not.

That happened to me once. Now I know that you have to be patient...especially
on the first date. If the girl doesn't want to hook up that night...it's ok. No big deal.
Make it easy on her...You gotta give her time to get comfortable and not feel so rushed.

I actually feel more comfortable hooking up on the second date or meeting rather than
rushing everything on the first date. My attitude is, she has to get it from somewhere...so she'll eventually come around...

VALENTINES DAY WEEKEND, WHO IS READY TO ROCK?

Solo dolo suit for both friday and saturday, leggo

Yesterday, when finish my afternoon Thai language class, I had a new text message from my girlfriend,

"Come home now. There are so many things that you never do right and I need to talk with you."

At the same time, my friend just beside me, tells me:

"Hey we're going to the pub in the lower Sukhumvit, wanna join for drinks?"

I wonder which choice is the best... oh wait, was it #2? Can't remember, too much booze.

----------------------

Today I invite the girlfriend for valentine's day, and she is still angry because of me coming back late yesterday. So fuck valentine's day, I'm going to have drinks with the boys, then see my side lady.

(02-13-2015 04:34 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Move to the bed. Her clothes come off effortlessly. I'm all over her, she's gushing. Give her a clit O. No LMR. She takes my dick and puts it in.

I go soft within a f-ing minute.

This is a moment of defeat for me and I just need to know, from you guys experience, if you've ever salvaged something like this. Definitely a learning experience and I'm trying to treat it as such. Thing is, she's in the same program as me (she's a freshman, I'm junior) and I'm paranoid this will spread like wildfire among her peers. She seemed cool but we all know women talk.

Feel like shit, haha!

I've had this a few times, it seems mostly when I was too emotionally invested/in my head - the girl was really hot, the first time I "fell in love", the first time I hooked up with an older woman who I'd fantasized about since I was a teenager... In all cases I got another shot and things worked out. You can't focus on trying to get hard in this situation, stress and boners do not go hand in hand. Just relax and focus on the feeling. I will say that since I mostly stopped watching porn and jerking it that I've had no more instances. Still usually take 1/3 large generic cialis or viagra for the first bang these days, an hour before it seems imminent if I can.

I wouldn't worry about her telling her friends, it would also mean that she wasn't good enough to get you hard. Takes two to tango.

(02-14-2015 02:46 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  

(02-13-2015 04:34 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Move to the bed. Her clothes come off effortlessly. I'm all over her, she's gushing. Give her a clit O. No LMR. She takes my dick and puts it in.

I go soft within a f-ing minute.

This is a moment of defeat for me and I just need to know, from you guys experience, if you've ever salvaged something like this. Definitely a learning experience and I'm trying to treat it as such. Thing is, she's in the same program as me (she's a freshman, I'm junior) and I'm paranoid this will spread like wildfire among her peers. She seemed cool but we all know women talk.

Feel like shit, haha!

I've had this a few times, it seems mostly when I was too emotionally invested/in my head - the girl was really hot, the first time I "fell in love", the first time I hooked up with an older woman who I'd fantasized about since I was a teenager... In all cases I got another shot and things worked out. You can't focus on trying to get hard in this situation, stress and boners do not go hand in hand. Just relax and focus on the feeling. I will say that since I mostly stopped watching porn and jerking it that I've had no more instances. Still usually take 1/3 large generic cialis or viagra for the first bang these days, an hour before it seems imminent if I can.

I wouldn't worry about her telling her friends, it would also mean that she wasn't good enough to get you hard. Takes two to tango.

Alright man, I appreciate you and Dalaran1991 sharing. Now that I've had time to reflect I think it was a combination of performance anxiety and needing to piss really badly during the whole time. I wasn't particularly drunk, just slightly buzzed, so I think the alcohol played a minimal role.

Yeah, I get what you're saying about relaxing. I felt calm and in the moment during the whole foreplay session. Enjoyed her immensely. Then PA just prior to sticking it in.

I actually ordered some Cialis this morning for the psychological effect of having a Plan B. Never want this to happen again! Also on no porn/no fap since roughly a month.

It's been a hell of week with girls.

Banged my main monday, she got some new lingerie.

Banged the black 19 yo 8 cokehead tuesday and nexted her

Banged the 18 yo wednesday, nutted on her face, great BJ skills, she wants to wear lingerie next time, but i already nexted her because she doesn't drive.

Almost banged that 34 yo mom thursday, not putting in anymore effort unless she comes to me.

Friday i was about to bang a 18 yo plate but shes on the rag and doesnt drive, i might next her also.

I ended up using friday as me time, went to a punk show with my boy, pitted, fucked people up and got fucked up, great local show with a known punk band.

Lost my phone in the pit, this cute mexican girl found it, it looked like she was alone, offered her a drink, she's straight edge and her boyfriend showed up. All good, the dude was cool and had my back in the pit.

Good times.

Tommorow with the main, we're both pretty anti-valentine so that's good.

I've also got 3 new girls pipelined for next week.

Pretty thankful for life, game, and this forum.

(02-13-2015 11:28 PM)Richiavelli Wrote:  VALENTINES DAY WEEKEND, WHO IS READY TO ROCK?

Solo dolo suit for both friday and saturday, leggo

Noice. I landed a date with a ballerina for this evening. Wine at her place.

Oh hell yes.

delete

For the first time ever, I was on a flight and got seated next to a hot chick. Got the number. She goes to uni in the same city as I do so I'll txt later this week for drinks next week in Kingston where my logistics are better.

HSLD

@kaotic, where are you located with all this access to women? Are you banging all quality 7+ or what?

(02-14-2015 09:41 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  For the first time ever, I was on a flight and got seated next to a hot chick. Got the number. She goes to uni in the same city as I do so I'll txt later this week for drinks next week in Kingston where my logistics are better.

HSLD

This never happens haha.. I've flown quite a bit and i'm always sitting there watching hot girls walk up, hoping they end up beside me. Nope, always fatties, old ladies.

Man I kind of feel like a newbie to game sometimes, basically I've been doing my version of "monk mode" the past 4 months and have spit very minimal game and only gone out to work night game a handful of times. Tonight I finally feel like I broke out of my shell, a lot of it is working the fundamentals. I basically did a few "warm up approaches" to get into the groove like I used to, and once I got my groove going I was spitting like a ravenous animal.

Not that I had a whole lot to show for it, but I did get a number from a legit 8 who was one of the finest girls in the venue, I know numbers don't mean shit, but I pushed the interaction as far as it will go, and she did seem to be feeling me. One thing that I have noticed which probably goes without saying, but the hotter the girl, the tighter your game needs to be, and the lower your odds you will convert.

In the past I often grasped at low hanging fruit, simply out of the desire of an easy lay. Recently the minimal game I have spit has pretty much been directed at 8+ caliber women, so I guess it shouldn't be any surprise that I've faced greater challenges than when I was going after 6-7 range chicks. One thing that I do need to do is get more prospects and spin more plates, so far I get one girl's number at a time and often it leads no where. Numbers game, numbers game, numbers game!!

Restarted approaching again after a two week hiatus. Probably had my best weekend ever in terms of game.

In bed with two different girls, made out with four in total, and had a lot of fun in general. Fuck Valentine's Day. It should be St. Game Day.

This is one of those things I'd heard about, but never experienced. Last night I ended up at a bar with some friends. On the third floor, where we were, there is only one bathroom, so both men and women use it. I was waiting in line and when the two chicks that were in there walked out, I made a comment as they passed and I entered. Mid piss, one of the girls walks back in and goes, "We should make out." I just said, "sure," stopped pissing, zipped up, and started making out with her. I chose not to escalate further since she wasn't very attractive, but that was the quickest make out I've ever gotten and least amount of work I've ever had to put into an interaction.

Getting asked by random chicks if you have kids: A shit test or a IOI? Anyone here can relate?

(02-14-2015 10:16 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  @kaotic, where are you located with all this access to women? Are you banging all quality 7+ or what?

I'm located in southern california.

My main is a solid 8 (maybe even an 8.5 after holding her down for a year and not much friction)
That black girl was for sure an 7.5 (She's an 8 but her hair bugs me ALOT)
The 18 year old was 6.5
The mom was surprisingly cute she's a 7

My bang quality is slowly creeping up. I'm trying to bang higher quality girls and nexting girls that I'm over, faster.

This means the possibility of more difficult game to get hotter girls.

(02-16-2015 12:32 AM)J.B Wrote:  Getting asked by random chicks if you have kids: A shit test or a IOI? Anyone here can relate?

"Sure do ! I'm setting up a franchise in every city !"
"What girl wouldn't want to have kids with me ?"
"Why, do you want one ?"
"Isn't a little bit too early to be talking about our future together?"
"Duh! I'm a DILF"

The possibilities are endless.

Always treat stuff life this as a joke. Don't ever let it get serious.

Pretty calm week, just scheduled some new dates.