Looks like I get a crack at my first Indian girl (she wears braces too) tomm night. She's driving 35 min from a college town to come see me for some drinks. She's been talking about how she likes to drink as well. I'm just trying to play the 'do not fuck up game'.

^^ Didn't read it all. Never met a motorcycle or sports car chick that didn't have the personality of a stripper. Awful dating material.

Obvious that chick got molested or almost raped at one point. She is fucked up. Pump and dump, strict booty call only. Another casualty of the West.

(01-30-2015 04:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^^ Didn't read it all. Never met a motorcycle or sports car chick that didn't have the personality of a stripper. Awful dating material.

Obvious that chick got molested or almost raped at one point. She is fucked up. Pump and dump, strict booty call only. Another casualty of the West.

Oh yeah I put her in the DTF only category even before I met her.

Sad casualties my friend, I need to travel more.

(01-30-2015 03:25 PM)robreke Wrote:  Just shows how far gone and damaged Western women have become.

(01-30-2015 04:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Another casualty of the West.

People criticize "the West"..

Meanwhile..

- 50% of Japanese people don't even have sex.

- China has a huge shortage of women due to the practice of killing and aborting female babies.

- India is maybe the most sexually repressed culture on earth.

Just saying..

(01-30-2015 04:10 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Looks like I get a crack at my first Indian girl (she wears braces too) tomm night. She's driving 35 min from a college town to come see me for some drinks. She's been talking about how she likes to drink as well. I'm just trying to play the 'do not fuck up game'.

I don't know man, the way my luck's been going every time it's not-fuck-up game I fucked up or lightning strikes the bar we are in or something. Every time I expected going through 7 circles of hell to get the pussy, it's actually a breeze without even a word of resistance.

(01-30-2015 04:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 03:25 PM)robreke Wrote:  Just shows how far gone and damaged Western women have become.

(01-30-2015 04:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Another casualty of the West.

People criticize "the West"..

Meanwhile..

- 50% of Japanese people don't even have sex.

- China has a huge shortage of women due to the practice of killing and aborting female babies.

- India is maybe the most sexually repressed culture on earth.

Just saying..

I agree with what you said.

But most of us deal with American girls, a special "fucked up" type of girl.

Some RVF'ers criticize western women because that's all they interact with, they don't think outside they're borders, most Americans don't. Hell I know I didn't.

So we talk about what we've experience....the western girl. No doubt there are more fucked up things going out there.

This is just another first world problem we have.

18 yr old Tinder chick showing tons of interest wanted me to come over to her dorm with a bottle of wine and "watch movies together."

Just got a text saying that her friend's grandpa died tonight and she needs to be with her friend.

Almost definitely her period just hit.

Damn. Gotta wait a while then.

At least (I think) she knows what's up.

HSLD

(01-30-2015 05:09 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  18 yr old Tinder chick showing tons of interest wanted me to come over to her dorm with a bottle of wine and "watch movies together."

Just got a text saying that her friend's grandpa died tonight and she needs to be with her friend.

Almost definitely her period just hit.

Damn. Gotta wait a while then.

At least (I think) she knows what's up.

HSLD

Could've gotten scared and backed out, or she found someone else (no offense), or her friends granpa really did die.

I take things with a grain of salt, the most important thing to gauge is how she acts with you when you contact her again.

(01-30-2015 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I agree with what you said.

But most of us deal with American girls, a special "fucked up" type of girl.

I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I agree with what you said.

But most of us deal with American girls, a special "fucked up" type of girl.

I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

A very true point.

I know what you're about, I've read and heard your shit dude, you're one of the guys I look up too, and follow for experience, especially gaming young girls.

I actually had fun with this biker girl, in the end, it's not a big deal if date 2 happens or not, I learned from this, sealed my leaks, and onto the next one.

When I meant casualty, i meant it's just shitty that this hot girl had a shitty background and acts the way she does because of those experiences.

But you like you said I've banged hotter and younger girls. I love where I live, I enjoy the girls I bang, but hey, we've all had horror stories.

I've had some awesome success this last year and it keeps getting better.

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

I do the same thing you do, you are the reason I started! I do bang college girls from day game. In fact I ran into a virgin I deflowered at a campus yesterday that I moved on from. Young, tight, etc... I don't spend more time with her why the fuck is that? She would be rated a 7+ by the vast majority of guys on this forum. I was the one that chose to dump her off and move on. It had nothing to do with the sex. She had D-tits and a nice juicy ass with a flat stomach. Her personality, whining, complaining, masculine behaviors, and most of all me, me, me narcissism really got to me.

This mainland Chinese girl I just banged who was 24yo 7+ (looks 16) absolutely destroyed every hot young American college chick I have been with. Chew on that.

Fact remains the foregin born girls that have spent little time in the U.S. blow the doors off them in personalities and ability to connect on a deeper dare I say spiritual level.

You need to go to the Travel Forum. Book a ticket to a foreign city touted on the forum with lots of colleges and good weather and report back vs. American girls.

There is no chance you don't say the foreign girl personalities destroy them for mini-relationships and beyond.

I am guessing your love for American girls has increased with your game. Maybe you are getting such quality and have the game they treat you like a king. The only time I have felt like a king with a girl is when they have been foreign born and spent the vast majority of their live outside the U.S. or much more rarely they are a good looking slut trying to reform and you get the desperate vibe and feeling you are a simp for taking them under your wing. Maybe I will get to where you are one day too, I have gotten this far. Still, if you took your game abroad your prizes would be even better.

With this all said among my all my male American friends even ones with 100s (2 guys I know) of lays I am considered to have very strong game. Meaning if the 100 guy friends I know put me in their top 5 in game for all the male friends they know, and I feel this way.... what does that say?

And saying guys on the Game board complain about American women because we most likely don't have success? Frankly I didn't think you would think that way. In fact the guys that complain know exactly what they are talking about because they have banged both attractive young American girls vs. foreign ones. They have been to the TOP of the mountain and have a vast perspective that I have learned much from.

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

I'm the same way as you Gio, though since I live in NYC, I meet a lot of foreign girls, far more than your average red piller.

While the quality is undoubtedly higher during the day time, non-Anglosphere girls are still much higher in quality, not so much looks wise (NYC selects for the best after all), but in terms of enjoyability.

Texted my Ukrainian prospect for a meetup yesterday. She hasn't responded. Think I'm gonna try a call later tonight.

Personally I'm beginning to think that the whole "wait a bit before responding after she texts you" is a crock of shit just like the 3 day rule is now.

Another lousy night. I think I know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm just tired. I don't have much desire to approach, honestly.

I think it's time to take a break from game, at least for awhile. It's kind of interesting. The stuff that used to work for me isn't working right now. There are literally a thousand reasons for it. My vibe is definitely off, and I'm honestly not approaching a lot of women I find attractive. I'm also still reeling from my last relationship, which got to me far worse than I thought it would.

Some days, I really wonder "is this worth it?" and then I have my next success.

Any advice for me in my situation?

Jetting out in the morning for a meet up and time allowing a quick family visit

Couple nice little phillies been waiting for the better part of a month for me to come to town

The weather man is giving out storm predictions, so it's a race against time but logistics will be on my side

Hotel.com has become my best friend on the road

So I brought a girl home 1 week ago. Insane amounts of LMR, I was unable to vainquish it. She wouldn't let me touch her pussy.

I at least got a blowjob and make out, but the LMR was just impossible to overcome.

I tried to plan another date, that's what I got:

   

^Aaaaaahhhhh! There's one thing most American girls have over SEA girls - the top and bottom half usually match, and if not the adam's apple gives it away!

Over the last week spent probably a couple hours running tight text game with a cute early 30s Tinderella, finally convinced her to drive three hours, ONE WAY to visit without ever meeting. Talk about thinking it's in the bag? Shows up, hang for a bit and plan lunch, hike. She come out of the bathroom "I'm sorry, I think I need to go home." "OK, no problem. Still want to go for a hike, right?" "No I think I need to go. I'm never this spontaneous and driving up here made me feel really off."

Got her to agree to lunch and then as I put my shoes on she backs out of that too. Apparently had anxiety issues in the past, says it wasn't me... Of course that's not true, even with underlying issues strong comfort would've solved it, but I didn't even know she was having any I needed to work on. Probably dodged a bullet in any case but sure as hell shook my frame up. Fortunately was able to pull it together and got a regular coming over now. Never can let the guard down, just when you think you've got it all figured out life throws a curve ball.

:

Rawmeo i'd probably censor your name and her name in screenshots man

As far as her being a lady boy, at least you are't the marine who killed one.

Jesus that fucking sucks man.

Sometimes you just have to laugh at God.

Had this 19 year old cutie back at my place. We're getting heavy into it and I lead her into the bedroom, where she confesses she's on her period. I tell her it's OK and that we can turn the lights down and put out a towel if she's feeling self-conscious, but she insists she's never had sex on her period. With her age, and the country I'm in, the over under on her cock count is 1.5, so it's understandable she has some angst.

She thinks some more, I seduce some more and she agrees, but she needs the bathroom first. Perfectly fine.

Except today I was changing locks on my bathroom door, got frustrated with the replacement handle not fitting right, and left the project for another day. The door will lock, but I had removed the handle to turn the lock. Basically if you shut the bathroom door in the condition it's in, there's no way to open it back up unless you install the handle.

Before I get the words out of my mouth, she shuts the door.

Fuck. It took me 45 minutes of coaching her through how to install a door knob, she finally gets the fucking thing on and opened.

Still got the bang and she was quite beautiful, but the challenges of life sometimes.

(01-30-2015 04:50 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 04:10 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  Looks like I get a crack at my first Indian girl (she wears braces too) tomm night. She's driving 35 min from a college town to come see me for some drinks. She's been talking about how she likes to drink as well. I'm just trying to play the 'do not fuck up game'.

I don't know man, the way my luck's been going every time it's not-fuck-up game I fucked up or lightning strikes the bar we are in or something. Every time I expected going through 7 circles of hell to get the pussy, it's actually a breeze without even a word of resistance.

Yup

Couldn't get her to come back to my place but there well be a second that.

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I agree with what you said.

But most of us deal with American girls, a special "fucked up" type of girl.

I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

100% agreed

The stopped actively going after girls over 24 earlier this winter which has led to my success rate increasing. Girls who are college aged are way more pleasant and easier to deal with. Now we all know that the beauty of a girl who is under 22 is a big factor but this winter has given me a new outlook on American girls.

Just stick to the ones between 18-22

(02-01-2015 07:40 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 05:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I agree with what you said.

But most of us deal with American girls, a special "fucked up" type of girl.

I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

100% agreed

The stopped actively going after girls over 24 earlier this winter which has led to my success rate increasing. Girls who are college aged are way more pleasant and easier to deal with. Now we all know that the beauty of a girl who is under 22 is a big factor but this winter has given me a new outlook on American girls.

Just stick to the ones between 18-22

It's easy dealing with younger girls. Nothing is serious for them. What do they really have to worry about? Nothing.

I'm serious all day. When I get home and want some R&R, I don't want to be serious. I don't want to hear about your fucking job, or grad class sweetheart.

Give me the bouncy, full of energy young girl who is high on life, and whose hardest decision all day is what outfit to wear.

I had chill night last night, stayed in with my main girl and a couple of our friends to eat pizza and smoke hookah.

I dropped a good one-liner I wanted to share.

We were watching music videos on youtube and I played one with Rick Ross.

When he starts rapping I said, "Damn he is fat."

My girl replied, "Yeah but he has bangs more girls in a week than you will in a lifetime." (Shots fired bitch).

Her again, "His boobs are bigger than mine even."

I replied with a smug grin, "and more perky."

Shut her right the fuck up.

Reference:

Courtesy of cardguy.

Got a date with a (just turned) 19 year old tomorrow night. I've not been on a date with a girl this young before so will be interesting to see how it goes.
Will try the first date bang recipe, should be pretty easy on a young girl I'm guessing? Should I feel bad?

(01-30-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I have to be honest..

I like American girls.

And, I probably approach more American girls than anyone on this forum.

And, I have probably been rejected by American girls more than any guy on this forum.

I think the difference is that I don't do night game, I don't chase club sluts, I don't look at fat women, I don't deal with feminists, I ignore mainstream media, etc.

I only go after pretty, young, college girls in the day time.

Obviously, this shapes my perspective and opinion of American girls.

I think that many guys complain about American girls because they haven't had much success with American girls. If they were banging tight, young, 19 year olds, would they be complaining?

This is a Game forum. Most of the guys who are here are here because they haven't had much success with women.

Obviously, this shapes their perspective.

Just my 2 cents

I live in perhaps the most hated travel and game location in the RVF (do I have to spell it out, haha).

Guys, this advice is golden.

Recently I've forced myself only to look at girls 18-22. And I realize, there are plenty, plenty of cute girls around. And I've started to recall all my experiences and interactions with them, and in most cases they were always pleasant.

I am now focusing solely on this age group, in the day time.

Online game is very difficult here. Night game is difficult.

I can do well in night game, but it requires a mountain of effort. Day game seems to be the best option for me right now.

It's also about picking the right locations. I recently noticed a certain mall 10 minute drive away from me always has plenty of cute thin girls walking around, but the other one same distance in the other direction is full of middle aged women.

Last week I met a solid 9 and despite not getting a number, she was very receptive to me and was a pleasure to meet. I have no doubt if I meet more of these girls more often I will be succeeding more.

I've done a bit of travelling. I have to put in a lot of effort here in TO to get good results. The same effort I put in here, I kill it abroad (the locations I've been in so far).

However, to get the quality girls abroad, I had to step up my game as well. In other words, although getting 7's abroad was easier and much more frequent than here, getting 8's still takes similar effort.

I like 7's especially the girls with warm personalities. But as a man developing his game, I know the higher quality girls are attainable, and not merely something to look at as they are for the average man. They are attainable and naturally what I am looking for. It just takes work, whether you are in South America, USA, or Canada.

It takes work because meeting girls during the day is not easy. It does though practice your inner game more than anything else.