Post: #1876

I was in Krakow recently and i have to agree that the girls are more friendly than your average western-european girl. I went out two nights only but the girls were extremely receptive and friendly - surprised me even. Considering how difficult it is to elicit friendly responses from girls while gaming in western europe i even briefly considered finding a job in poland.

I am not sure if this is true but i did notice this - polish girls were more physical while dancing/easier to be physical with while dancing ? Also i met this polish girl one night, great vibe while dancing and she gave me her number. But she is extremely shy, citing her bad english as a reason to not meet me again. I have already left the country to do anything about it but i find it hard to believe thats an actual reason.

Post: #1877

Which locations are good in Poznan ? I wanna be in walking distance to the malls, nightlife(if possible) and generally location that will impress girls a little



Right now am looking at red circle ... Seeing few pretty decent apartments for 2000-3000pln - Also how common is it to further negotiate price here ? cheers

Post: #1878

(12-23-2014 05:21 AM)ballybally Wrote:  Which locations are good in Poznan?

In terms of logistics for Poznań, there is only one rule that you need to know.

Find Klub Czekolada, on Ulitsa Wrocławska.

Get the closest apartment you can find to it. Czekolada is likely the best place for picking up Polish girls in Poznań - at least if you follow the received wisdom of the forum. Seriously, there's one apartment on AirBnB that's less than 30 seconds walking distance from there that I used. I'll find the listing for you. It's also within easy walking distance to all the daygame spots you could need.

EDIT: Here it is - Link

HSLD

Post: #1879

(12-22-2014 06:07 PM)amsdk Wrote:  But she is extremely shy, citing her bad english as a reason to not meet me again. I have already left the country to do anything about it but i find it hard to believe thats an actual reason.

This has happened to me way too many times. I find Polish girls get easily high on emotions i.e. your first contact with her in club. Next day it all fades away and they begin to have second thoughts. I've given further explanations like "I need someone to talk to, not just kissing/I have so much to tell you but I can't"
Hence why you'll see a lot of member recommending to push the conversation as much as possible in initial approach.

Post: #1880

@HighSpeed_LowDrag thanks got crazy good apartment 300m away for long-term.

There is only one problem, it doesn't have internet yet. Owner is mentioning some company that he uses for TV that would do 50mpbs for 60 or 70pln but they require 24 month contract which sucks :/ Anyone knows any providers that would do 12month contract here or even less ?

Cheers

Post: #1881

(12-30-2014 01:27 PM)ballybally Wrote:  @HighSpeed_LowDrag thanks got crazy good apartment 300m away for long-term.

No worries bud, hope you have a good time in Poznan.

HSLD

Post: #1882

(12-30-2014 01:27 PM)ballybally Wrote:  Anyone knows any providers that would do 12month contract here or even less ?

Cheers

Netia has both 6 and 12 month contract

Post: #1883

(10-26-2014 01:02 PM)Chengiz88 Wrote:  First few days impression of the Polish countryside. Not much to write home about. Pretty flat land with forests around here. The family I'm staying with are very keen on mushroom picking and want to take me to visit a statue of some bear in the next village.

The local town reminds me of the film Borat (busted up sidewalks, dusty old shops) and the local shopping centre is a hotch potch of small stalls. Being the only foreigner/person of colour ppl here stare a lot. At first it felt uncomfortable as hell, as i could not walk 5 metres without everyone looking at me, but no one has said anything racist or been violent towards me. In a way seeing this poverty makes me grateful for being born and raised where i was. Many ppl here look generally unhappy and miserable, and having been to the town I don't blame them. But there is lots of talk about EU money coming in and being used to improve the infrastructure here. So maybe things will get better.

The quality of girls in the town is better than expected. Not seen any fatties at all, the general look is blonde, slim and quite tall, while the guys here love the skinhead/bald look and all look to be kinda fat. Have seen quite a few couples in town where the guy is poorly dressed and got a big belly with a 7/8 rating girl. I wanted to hit the local pub/clubs but my friend and his family seemed nervous about letting me go alone, instead have been day gaming in the city. I'm no expert like the ppl on this forum, so tend to keep it simple. Have been targeting the shop girls and the majority dont speak english, but the ones who do (broken english) are very responsive. In fact I have lined up 3 dates for the following week alone. Am feeling good about all 3, as the girls are constantly texting me so hoping to plant the UK flag in Polish soil soon. Only stumbling block being I don't have my own place, but hey will try and see what happens.

Don't be surprised, you went to the shithole

Most of the small vilages look like that, been in Wales in something like this, tragedy

Post: #1884

Anyone knows any good gym in the center of Poznan ?

Post: #1885

I am in Poznan now. I am 29 year old Polish guy. Which club do you suggest? Where can I meet foreign girls?

Post: #1886

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2...ight-video

Post: #1887

Thought some of you guys might find this interesting...

Post: #1888

^^^

It has been removed. What did it say?

Post: #1889

(01-23-2015 04:58 PM)Cheetah Wrote:  ^^^

It has been removed. What did it say?

Not sure. Maybe it doesn't allow to be embedded. Here is a direct link to it in Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m00sdCLgdw

Post: #1890

What we should know when we go searching for love in Poland is that we happen to usually bang the same polish girls
that bang every foreigner they meet. Some of the polish girls have higher notch numbers than american girls or british girls. they get drunk and bang guys every night.

Girls from Former Soviet Union, who many are truly conservative, will NOT fuck you the same night you meet her, no matter what your game looks like. Try using the power of non-judgement, when the girl TRULY sees there is no judgement, you are the transient lover with the same world-view as her, she tells you everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, after sex.

When you really learn about the values of a country are in these post-sex non-judgement conversations. My conclusion is that the place is NO different from any other Western European country in mentality (at least girls who are young and still on the carousel, not the post-carousel "reformed sluts" who are "tired of partying"). I met plenty of girls who admitted to regularly fucking new guys at clubs. Some admitted to notch-counts you could expect in a place like the UK. I heard stories of gangbangs, or girls going to clubs explicitly LOOKING for sex and escalating encounters themselves with somewhat shy guys. I heard stories of toilet sex with strangers, regular sex at clubs, of girls wanting to "be crazy" and fuck 2-3 guys in a night (go to a club, fuck one guy, then leave, go back to the club fuck another...). The girl who told me about that actually went into explicit detail about the logistics of it, saying "you have to make sure you don't fuck each guy for more than an hour". Imagine a Russian girl saying that lol. I spoke with girls about FSU girls never having ONS, one girl said that was "sad", it was a bad thing, like they are missing out on life. On gangbangs I heard two stories. The first was with a girl who went home with a guy and fucked all the roommates. The second was a girl who had a fuckbuddy that arranged a group of guys at her petition. Another thing I would ask about is nationalities they had fucked, and they would come up with these incredibly long lists of nationalities all around the world.

It is THE SAME as any Western country, even to the level of Scandinavia. It is NOT hard to find a girl you can fuck within the first hour of meeting. It is a fundamental part of the mindset, they decide whether to fuck you or not within the first 5 minutes of meeting, after that it is just about escalating as fast as possible, you don't need anything more. Very frequently with shy guys at clubs they escalate the ONS themselves (quite covertly though, I heard very smart stories about girls helping each other out by organizing afterparties, then going to a friend who was flirting with a guy and asking them both if they wanted to go to the afterparty), so obviously there is rarely a serious time-constraint. Of course, initially I got plenty of "I don't want a relationship", but I soon adapted and took on more a strong player role, that stopped coming because they knew that I "got it". Just like in Western countries, many girls would actually say after an ONS "nice to meet you, have a nice stay in Poland". Same as in the West, very clear alpha one-time sportfuck frame, they knew this from the start and fully accepted it. In the old days I treated it like Russia because of what I had heard, I failed utterly, I didn't fuck a single girl I went out on dates with. One girl actually fell in love with me, but "didn't want a relationship". I came in with a provider frame, she resisted heavily despite being a frequent ONS slut, told me later she got drunk on purpose so that she could fuck me but then still have the excuse that she was drunk and this didn't mean we were in a relationship. After being fuckbuddies for a while, she fell in love with me and feelings of jealousy got her to change her tune about exclusivity. When a girl DID accept a fuckbuddy situation (which was rarer than not, like in most R-countries girls just want to fuck once, sex is a "sport" for them, I even had one girl literally call it that), she did NOT want to do any dating stuff. Just come home and fuck. Human value or love is nowhere to be found in their philosophy of life. Just like in any Western country.

THIS is Poland. These are my experiences, and they come from a fairly reasonable amount of girls. And NOT obvious sluts, they all seemed incredibly sweet and "good girls", I would have taken them on 4-5 dates if I hadn't known better. This is the problem of this country, the girls don't LOOK like sluts, which is why so many guys get confused. Back in 2011, Roosh got confused. The place was as R-selected as it is now. He just didn't see it. He just saw the "sweet Eastern European girls" he had heard about through the grapevine. Only now after numerous reference points and input from other men does it make sense, it was a matter of perception, not of the country actually changing significantly.

It is a fully Western country, only with sweeter girls. Regardless, just like in any Western country, I believe that no matter how sweet, they hold no human value. A girl with such a philosophy of life simply cannot be employed for more than one-off sex. When I am feeling horny, I go to Poland. If I want human value, I go to Russia. The distinction is clear. It can be difficult however, sometimes you meet really sweet girls in Poland, you are truly tempted, but you must remind yourself of who they are and take a step back.

Post: #1891

magicone: Have you been to Serbia? I'm guessing it's more like Russia than Poland.

Post: #1892

(01-30-2015 11:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:  magicone: Have you been to Serbia? I'm guessing it's more like Russia than Poland.

Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia are the closest to Russian way of life, mentality and dating culture.

Also Serbia and Bulgaria are using Cyrillic script alphabet,
just like Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, etc.

Bulgaria is changing however, because of being part of European Union since 2007.

Back to the truth about Poland:

I have seen over and over again the same polish girls that acted very horny in my presence,
(or which I succesfully banged already) doing the exact same ritual with other men,
foreign and sometimes polish as well, being sweet to them, isolating them
outside of the club and then acting warm and touching their bodies in order to make them hornier
so that they assure sexual contact with them in the same night.

Most of the polish girls also did not object when having sex without condom
in the first night of meeting them,
but only mentioned it after an hour of raw sex "You don´t have condom?"
and then later in the next days, if we ever discussed about this,
the hamster was set in motion inside them
"Why do you worry about having sex without condom?
Do you have any diseases?"

Post: #1893

(01-31-2015 09:08 AM)magicone Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 11:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:  magicone: Have you been to Serbia? I'm guessing it's more like Russia than Poland.

Bulgaria is changing however, because of being part of European Union since 2007.

Not really, the EU hasn't changed anything in Bulgaria in the "negative sense". If you mean that Bulgarian women are more "westernized" compared to Ukraine, then the EU has nothing to do with it.
Bulgaria is just falsely proclaimed to be part of the Russian-sphere while it really isn't....for instance: recently many studies showed that Bulgarians are DNA linked to Iran than to Russia. The fact that Russians use the bulgarian alphabet (the Cyrillic...) doesn't mean much.


Serbia? Been there - nothing special, just like Bulgaria only that their language sounded recognizable from Bulgarian. Both countries though have quality higher than Greece. Greece feels more like the fatter parts of mexico or so.

Post: #1894

(01-31-2015 09:20 AM)bacardi123 Wrote:  many studies showed that Bulgarians are DNA linked to Iran than to Russia.

Well, weren't the Bulgars a Turkic tribe that somehow became South Slavic?

Of the 200 or so ethnic groups in Russia, how many dozens of them are Turkic?

Post: #1895

(01-31-2015 09:27 AM)Icarus Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 09:20 AM)bacardi123 Wrote:  many studies showed that Bulgarians are DNA linked to Iran than to Russia.

Well, weren't the Bulgars a Turkic tribe that somehow became South Slavic?

Of the 200 or so ethnic groups in Russia, how many dozens of them are Turkic?

To conclude:

No consensus about that. Since the bulgarian government is poor they don't spare money in archaeology, and very few people give a [email protected] about the origin of the bulgarians, as a result the idea is greatly politicized and used as a propaganda tool.

If you hate bulgaria = "bulgarians are gipsies/turks".
If you are bulgarian communist = "bulgarians are russian brothers".
And...If you do your best not to be biased: then you consider bulgarians historically and genetically linked to Iran, the "aryans" hence it's name bulgaria = "volga-Arya"(the river volga in present day russia...) and also: I don't question that there is great linkage to Mongolia.

Perhaps it was Iranians/Aryans/Indians who ended up being controlled by huns/mongols etc and later reached europe. Something like that...but still: no reason to consider them turks or russians. Studies show no linkage to turkey despite the ottoman control - meaning: no rapes (or almost none) by turks on bulgarian women from that period.

Also...for those who will call me "racist" for using the word "aryan", you're welcome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Aryans

Post: #1896

(01-31-2015 09:08 AM)magicone Wrote:  Back to the truth about Poland:

I have seen over and over again the same polish girls that acted very horny in my presence,
(or which I succesfully banged already) doing the exact same ritual with other men,
foreign and sometimes polish as well, being sweet to them, isolating them
outside of the club and then acting warm and touching their bodies in order to make them hornier
so that they assure sexual contact with them in the same night.

Most of the polish girls also did not object when having sex without condom
in the first night of meeting them,
but only mentioned it after an hour of raw sex "You don´t have condom?"
and then later in the next days, if we ever discussed about this,
the hamster was set in motion inside them
"Why do you worry about having sex without condom?
Do you have any diseases?"

In my experience, Polish girls were much more passive than what you describe (i.e they wouldn't approach you first or make it easy for you to isolate) even the easiest of them, it was always me making the 1st move and taking the initaitive to isolate. The part you mention about taking it raw was certainly true, more than half of the girls I banged were ok with not using a condom.

Post: #1897

(01-31-2015 10:16 AM)Luisaceo Wrote:  

(01-31-2015 09:08 AM)magicone Wrote:  Back to the truth about Poland:

I have seen over and over again the same polish girls that acted very horny in my presence,
(or which I succesfully banged already) doing the exact same ritual with other men,
foreign and sometimes polish as well, being sweet to them, isolating them
outside of the club and then acting warm and touching their bodies in order to make them hornier
so that they assure sexual contact with them in the same night.

Most of the polish girls also did not object when having sex without condom
in the first night of meeting them,
but only mentioned it after an hour of raw sex "You don´t have condom?"
and then later in the next days, if we ever discussed about this,
the hamster was set in motion inside them
"Why do you worry about having sex without condom?
Do you have any diseases?"

The part you mention about taking it raw was certainly true, more than half of the girls I banged were ok with not using a condom.

Luisaceo: your datasheet on Poland was straight-on
very very accurate.

I had my iPhone full of these type of texts from polish girls, just like you:

http://imgur.com/a/TKmvs

Post: #1898

(01-31-2015 10:24 AM)magicone Wrote:  Luisaceo: your datasheet on Poland was straight-on
very very accurate.

I had my iPhone full of these type of texts from polish girls, just like you:

http://imgur.com/a/TKmvs

lol yeah, just reading those old messages puts a smile on my face.

Post: #1899

Two of my English mates here have recently become single.

I have to point out the massive difference when going out to get laid when you compare cities like Warsaw, Poznan, Krakow, Wroclaw and Gdansk. Compared to other cities that are much smaller.

The effort you have to put in, when in the bigger cities is outstanding compared to the smaller ones.

I live in a city called Bydgoszcz. It's about 500,000 people. I don't know if its the bars that we are going to or what, but the number of Erasmus groupies is out of control.
You really don't get many foreigners around here. I have been going to facebook events for foreigners in this city. It usually only gets about 80 people, and 30 of them are polish.

So yeah, you stand out a shitload more when you are out of the bigger cities. I highly recommend it.

Post: #1900

(02-01-2015 02:33 PM)spalex Wrote:  Two of my English mates here have recently become single.

I have to point out the massive difference when going out to get laid when you compare cities like Warsaw, Poznan, Krakow, Wroclaw and Gdansk. Compared to other cities that are much smaller.

The effort you have to put in, when in the bigger cities is outstanding compared to the smaller ones.

I live in a city called Bydgoszcz. It's about 500,000 people. I don't know if its the bars that we are going to or what, but the number of Erasmus groupies is out of control.
You really don't get many foreigners around here. I have been going to facebook events for foreigners in this city. It usually only gets about 80 people, and 30 of them are polish.

So yeah, you stand out a shitload more when you are out of the bigger cities. I highly recommend it.

What's the the average cost of rent for a flat in Bydgoszcz with good logistics? The city sounds interesting haha.