Post: #201

I've decided to enjoy life as much as possible within reason since marriage is looking more and more like a remote possibility because I don't want to marry a slut or former slut.

Why not get the things I want? So far guns have been my hobby. I've got more than you can shake a stick at, built a range with my friend on his family's property and we do all sorts of fun shooting-related stuff. This past Saturday I've added another expensive, fun hobby to my life: cars

I'd been in the market for a new car for a couple months. I was looking at standard passenger cars and while they're acceptable, they're not exceptional. Then something clicked in my brain and I realized I should stop being so damn average and aiming small. I decided that before I got old I wanted a muscle car or a motorcycle. Given where I live, I went with the former since becoming a speed bump for our terrible drivers' SUVs was not an appealing idea.

I don't know a whole lot about cars since my dad was always busting his ass at work (he was a phoneman) when I was a kid and never really in the mood to teach me when he wasn't, despite being a mechanic for years, but I'm learning from others and having fun with my new Challenger.

Honestly, I prefer my hobbies to women at this point. Is this my sexodus? I don't know. I can go a couple months without feeling a desire to get laid, but when I do I usually spruce up my game with Roosh's work as well as suggestions on here and get out there.

But why should I marry some girl who's fucked around a lot and can't really bond with me because of it? Why should I marry someone who will probably get fat as fuck and chop their hair off once the wedding ring's on their finger? Even if I think they won't, there's a chance and there's not much I could do about it if they did.

I was people watching while at the dealership the other day and there were all these fucking whipped bitch boy husbands just a little bit older than me looking dead inside with short-haired whale wives and screaming little brats they refused to control. I started to feel sorry for them, but then I realized they did it to themselves. How can you grow up in this society without noticing these things? You have to be totally blind to not consider it. These guys were the most miserable-looking dudes I've ever seen in my life and their wives wore the pants in the relationship. HELL, the salespeople were talking to them rather than their pussy husbands. I held the door open for some poor herb carrying a kid and he mumbled a thanks to me and looked at the ground rather than make eye contact. It was like he was suicidally depressed. He honestly looked it.

There was another dude who was there with his girlfriend and was buying her a car. I wanted to grab him and shake some sense into him. What kind of moron does that?

And of course there were a few single moms in there who were probably alpha widows with kids that were downright hellish. Watching them made me thankful that my adopted-out daughter is living with a stable married couple instead of being pulled back and forth between me and her psycho mom, something which could've easily happened.

Anyway, I came to the conclusion that working women + legal prohibition on men being able to corporally punish their wives and put them in their place = fucked up society.

If a married man is not the head of the house who calls all the shots he is a slave and a hostage to the woman and her desires in this day and age. She can cuckold him and there's not fuck all he can do about it.

Women realize they have all the legal power in the world now and an army of white knights ready to fuck you up at their beck and call. Even if they don't consciously know it, they subconsciously do and wield it whenever it suits them. They got everything they wanted, but in the end many end up getting less. More of them are fat, miserable, and will never get married or have children. I knew one such late 30s sloot at work who used to be an escort and a stripper. She wondered why she couldn't keep a man. Because no one wants used goods. Any of you fellas want to put a bastard in an entitled ex-whore's belly? Not I. She got 15 years of riding the carousel and now has nothing to show for it but crushing loneliness, cats and a dog or two. Either no one told her what would happen or she ignored them.

This is what happens when society lets the equivalent of overgrown children run the show. It's like letting a little child eat nothing but candy. Yeah, they'll have a good time for a day or two but they'll end up sick as a dog in the long run.

Milo's articles and Roosh's new post today kind of touches on some of this.

http://www.rooshv.com/the-decimation-of-...s-complete

I don't know. At this point, I'm just trying to make the most of life. The way I see it: sexodus is troubling in some respects but not bad in others as long as men are getting what they want out of life otherwise. Women are a complete chore to deal with because most of them behave badly, dress like shit and are dumb as hell because they skate through life on their looks thanks to stupid fucking pussy fathers who treat them like princesses and white knights who think doing everything for them will get them laid. By their very nature they are dishonorable, subtle and duplicitous, which is probably some ancient evolutionary trait related to their physical weakness and occasionally getting abducted by rival barbarian tribes if their own men fell in battle. I actually read that some scientists think Stockholm Syndrome is related to all that. The only smart women I've met were ugly or fat and even then I haven't met many.

Fathers need to tell their daughters at puberty that they have two choices in life: they can either remain somewhat respectable and get married or fuck around and be unhappy spinster career women for the rest of their lives.

So, after that long rant, I guess my point is: sexodus? Not so bad as long as guys are getting what they want out of life. If they don't want sex, whatever. I can't be like that personally, but are they otherwise happy and improving themselves in other areas? If so, good for them. It could be worse. They could be one of those beaten down herbs with a fat, short-haired wife and bratty kids they're not allowed to punish.

Post: #202

Gio is right, but the effort is large as he stated.

From a guy to go from beginner game to real upper intermediate is probably a few 1000 approaches. I'm at 600 or so lifetime approaches.

I can see though my game is getting better each year.

I barely go to bars when I do now I have turned down some 6s off the bat because I consider it a pregnancy and STD risk with little reward. Before the SNL would have been reward enough.

I also quit cigarettes and drinking for the most part been surfing alot more and bought a rowing machine. I've worked on my posture, people tell me I look even taller than I did.

Gio's path is a great and noble one but also I think one of the toughest.

If I was not tall and decent looking (low 7) I would bust my ass way harder to get out of the country faster or find a niche like club bartender, DJ, musician, film/photographer.

I believe saying No is one of the most important skills in life.

My experience shows me you really need to save your time. If you want 7+ young chicks don't waste a minute with an older chick or a 6. Keep approaching and improving. I am starting to get much more selective.

The attitude of "I'm too good for a 6" will sink in and show in your attitude and mannerisms.

Post: #203

Gio we're in agreement and dancing around different points.

It took you 7 years to get to your current level. No doubt, the dedication and discipline it took for you to achieve your results are rare in most men.

My original point being: my observation in other countries is most men don't have to go through this. There's more to go around.

And I'll admit; I used a bit of hyperbole in my original statement. I'm tall, athletic, financially secure. You are correct that if a guy has those attributes, and he has to fight for a 7, then his game is sub-par. But that just proves my point further; why should he need Western style game? What evolutionary purpose does it serve? Should a man dedicate years adapting to Western women when he can just go overseas? All women require game but Western game is particularly nasty. It's fun, but I believe it's actually damaging on a man's psyche.

Personally, I'd rather spend that time and energy on self-improvement. I don't see adapting to Western women as an improvement for myself. It's merely a tool to scratch an itch.

Post: #204

(12-15-2014 11:49 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Personally, I'd rather spend that time and energy on self-improvement. I don't see adapting to Western women as an improvement for myself. It's merely a tool to scratch an itch.

I would disagree... learning how to game in a Western environment forces you to become charismatic, positive, and confident. That's an important skillset especially for business, and it helps you garner more respect from other men.

Post: #205

^^ As time goes on though I think the world will evolve to more Western game at least for the next 10 years a turn around will not be quick.

Upping game here is like being in a cage match against two angry pitbulls.

When you go abroad it will be like a petting zoo.

I'd say a good 2-4 years of Game in the U.S. is enough to get some blood on your face while still preserving humanity.

Australia it takes about 6 months!

Post: #206

For those that think Gio is an anomaly, he isn't. I was fortunate enough to meet guys in Tokyo (both foreign and Japanese) that have logged thousands of approaches on the streets of Tokyo and have gotten "there" in less time than he did. It takes hard work busting your ass, and anyone with that attitude is going to improve. I've met too many Gio's and the advice he gives is solid.

Post: #207

This really makes me wonder we should have a thread:

2k+ Approaches

Reserved for the thoughts of members with that many approaches and how they view things differently.

You would have to follow the 1 approach a day for 6 years to get there.

Post: #208

(12-15-2014 05:38 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-11-2014 11:22 AM)makaveli Wrote:  Some of us are pushed to live by our selves.
I don't even think I will have an education.. seems pointless to go to nursing school right now.. but let's see.

Fantastic and honest story from a unique viewpoint. I think you might be a little depressed.

Education is the one thing no one can ever take away from you.
You could commit some horrible crime, they can take your license, but you are still "Dr. xxxxx"

If you feel rejected somehow by society, education is a way to fuck them with their own spear.

You'll always have their certification.

It's a meaningless certification.

Post: #209

(12-16-2014 12:15 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^^ As time goes on though I think the world will evolve to more Western game at least for the next 10 years a turn around will not be quick.

Upping game here is like being in a cage match against two angry pitbulls.

When you go abroad it will be like a petting zoo.

I'd say a good 2-4 years of Game in the U.S. is enough to get some blood on your face while still preserving humanity.

Australia it takes about 6 months!

   

Post: #210

Personally, I love approaching and getting rejected. It helps kill that ego inside of you that you are somehow supposed to be a special snowflake, when in the grand scheme of life, you simply only serve a purpose to procreate and prosper.

Post: #211

(12-16-2014 12:29 AM)Samseau Wrote:  It's a meaningless certification.

My bank account and partially location-independent lifestyle seem to say otherwise about the meaningfulness of education.

Post: #212

(12-16-2014 10:15 AM)Redwood Wrote:  Personally, I love approaching and getting rejected. It helps kill that ego inside of you that you are somehow supposed to be a special snowflake, when in the grand scheme of life, you simply only serve a purpose to procreate and prosper.

In the grand purely materialistic viewpoint even procreation only matters when it concerns the survival of a species. Humanity does not have that problem and whether you contribute to the gene-pool or not is irrelevant.

Everyone has a different view on that, but what this questions comes down to is what you believe is the reason for LIFE ITSELF? I have my theories and my experiences, but I think that the only thing that humans (and even animals) regret is when they have not lived their lives to the fullest and enjoyed it doing something they wanted. That can be highly different to anyone with hardly really wrong choices out there.

Post: #213

(12-16-2014 12:25 AM)memcpy Wrote:  For those that think Gio is an anomaly, he isn't. I was fortunate enough to meet guys in Tokyo (both foreign and Japanese) that have logged thousands of approaches on the streets of Tokyo and have gotten "there" in less time than he did. It takes hard work busting your ass, and anyone with that attitude is going to improve. I've met too many Gio's and the advice he gives is solid.

Sorry but I disagree, you may see many guys approaching like Gio in Japan but that doesn't mean they are like him.
I also hear Japan is a lot easier to game, as compared to USA/Canada.
I know many men who have checked out when it comes to women, they all sing the same song that women want money etc.
Gio is anomaly, I don't want to come across like I am one of his fanboys. The man has more than earned my respect.

Post: #214

Ironically, wouldn't we be the anomaly compared to the majority of other men?

Post: #215

(12-15-2014 09:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Gio is right, but the effort is large as he stated.

The effort is not "large".

The effort is fucking gigantic! Bigger than most people can even imagine!

I literally made game the most important thing in my life. Other then exercise and cooking, I had no other hobbies. I adjusted my career in order to have time for game.

Thats how important it was for me. That how bad I wanted hot college girls.

It was well worth it for me, but, I guess I can't expect others to do what I did.

I sort of became obsessed with my game. It was all I cared about.

I have no regrets. What I did is what I needed to do to be happy in life.

I wanted to be a middle aged man who could pull college girls.

I did it! It feels great! This is one of the top 3-4 achievements of my life.

It was worth it for me. It may not be worth it for other men. That's okay. We all must live our own lives and do what we must do to be happy.

It never felt like work to me. I enjoyed every minute of it. It was a pleasure.

(12-15-2014 09:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Gio's path is a great and noble one but also I think one of the toughest.

Yes, my path is the toughest.

No special tricks, no gimmicks, no short cuts.

Just thousands of cold approaches on girls half my age, working out every day, cooking clean food everyday, studying charismatic people, learning how to dress, etc.

(12-15-2014 09:05 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  If I was not tall and decent looking (low 7) I would bust my ass way harder to get out of the country faster

I agree.

If I could not get laid in America, I would be on the first flight out of here!

I don't blame guys who go abroad, I would do the same if I had to.

(12-15-2014 11:49 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Personally, I'd rather spend that time and energy on self-improvement.

I can't argue with self improvement!

For me, working on my game was 100% self improvement.

I have improved myself in nearly every area.

I'm scared to think what I would have become if I never worked on my game.

Honestly, I would be just another frustrated, middle aged loser.

I could not let that happen.

I needed to do what I did.

It was life and death for me.

Post: #216

(12-16-2014 10:35 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:25 AM)memcpy Wrote:  For those that think Gio is an anomaly, he isn't. I was fortunate enough to meet guys in Tokyo (both foreign and Japanese) that have logged thousands of approaches on the streets of Tokyo and have gotten "there" in less time than he did. It takes hard work busting your ass, and anyone with that attitude is going to improve. I've met too many Gio's and the advice he gives is solid.

Sorry but I disagree, you may see many guys approaching like Gio in Japan but that doesn't mean they are like him.
I also hear Japan is a lot easier to game, as compared to USA/Canada.
I know many men who have checked out when it comes to women, they all sing the same song that women want money etc.
Gio is anomaly, I don't want to come across like I am one of his fanboys. The man has more than earned my respect.

It's not. If anything it's HARDER to game in Japan, the only thing that makes it easier is the public transit, because logistics in ANY major Japanese city are pretty much the best in the world.

But Japanese girls have their issues that makes game somewhat of a chore. . .there's a LOT of B.S. to wade through on top of the western-stuff they're picking up.

Then there's the language barrier issues as well.

SO basically anyone come to the place needs to put in 1.5x-2x more work Gio put into game. if they want to get 8's and 9's constantly. Otherwise, most foreign dudes just stick to certain Niche subsets of women - which isn't bad really, they range from 5-7 range and few 8's. . .thing is, if you don't leave the country for a few weeks every year, you'll get burned out eventually (the burn-out is REAL. happened to me, made me make a few life mistakes that I regret)

So yeah, Japan has a whole set of issues that need to be worked out, game and otherwise.

Post: #217

(12-16-2014 12:32 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 10:35 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:25 AM)memcpy Wrote:  For those that think Gio is an anomaly, he isn't. I was fortunate enough to meet guys in Tokyo (both foreign and Japanese) that have logged thousands of approaches on the streets of Tokyo and have gotten "there" in less time than he did. It takes hard work busting your ass, and anyone with that attitude is going to improve. I've met too many Gio's and the advice he gives is solid.

Sorry but I disagree, you may see many guys approaching like Gio in Japan but that doesn't mean they are like him.
I also hear Japan is a lot easier to game, as compared to USA/Canada.
I know many men who have checked out when it comes to women, they all sing the same song that women want money etc.
Gio is anomaly, I don't want to come across like I am one of his fanboys. The man has more than earned my respect.

It's not. If anything it's HARDER to game in Japan, the only thing that makes it easier is the public transit, because logistics in ANY major Japanese city are pretty much the best in the world.

But Japanese girls have their issues that makes game somewhat of a chore. . .there's a LOT of B.S. to wade through on top of the western-stuff they're picking up.

Then there's the language barrier issues as well.

SO basically anyone come to the place needs to put in 1.5x-2x more work Gio put into game. if they want to get 8's and 9's constantly. Otherwise, most foreign dudes just stick to certain Niche subsets of women - which isn't bad really, they range from 5-7 range and few 8's. . .thing is, if you don't leave the country for a few weeks every year, you'll get burned out eventually (the burn-out is REAL. happened to me, made me make a few life mistakes that I regret)

So yeah, Japan has a whole set of issues that need to be worked out, game and otherwise.

You could say the same thing about Russia (in some ways). It's not easy, but because the women are thinner, prettier, dress up and act feminine and actually like and want men the satisfaction of gaming is much better, at least for me. Even the subsets that certain expats chase. When I win the prize it's actually something worth working hard for and winning. Whereas in the US and Anglosphere it's typically not, even though girls are generally easier.

I think a lot of wanna-be players get burned out in the US bc the "prize" ends up being some tatted up slutty hoe, or some SIF who values her SMV too much, or some snarky pseudo-feminist type with an attitude. After a few bangs none of those are really worth all the work an average guy has to do, so that's why so many guys drop out or just settle for a 4-5 and wife them up.

(12-16-2014 12:18 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  I can't argue with self improvement!

For me, working on my game was 100% self improvement.

I have improved myself in nearly every area.

I'm scared to think what I would have become if I never worked on my game.

Honestly, I would be just another frustrated, middle aged loser.

I could not let that happen.

I needed to do what I did. It was life and death for me.

These words are so true with me as well. I'm not at Gio's level, but am always trying to improve my inner self and game first and then sort of "build it and they will come." I don't know what I'd do if I had not learned game and also didn't seek to better myself each and every day. Life would be pretty boring for sure, and I also don't ever want to be one of these middle-aged pudgy dudes with a 200 lb. wife sitting at home watching TV all day.

Post: #218

(12-16-2014 12:13 AM)Saladin Wrote:  

(12-15-2014 11:49 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Personally, I'd rather spend that time and energy on self-improvement. I don't see adapting to Western women as an improvement for myself. It's merely a tool to scratch an itch.

I would disagree... learning how to game in a Western environment forces you to become charismatic, positive, and confident. That's an important skillset especially for business, and it helps you garner more respect from other men.

This is a good point, and I stand corrected.

Game is a love/hate relationship with me. If you want to call it purple pill, maybe so, but there's still a part of me that wants to believe that somewhere out there are women that don't need to be gamed, at least not the way we game them here.

That said, I was out in Vegas the past 4 days and goddamn there are a lot of clueless guys out there. I am thankful for everything I've learned about game and am aware it puts you at a HUGE advantage.

Post: #219

(12-16-2014 12:58 PM)Akula Wrote:  When I win the prize it's actually something worth working hard for and winning. Whereas in the US and Anglosphere it's typically not, even though girls are generally easier.

I think a lot of wanna-be players get burned out in the US bc the "prize" ends up being some tatted up slutty hoe, or some SIF who values her SMV too much, or some snarky pseudo-feminist type with an attitude. After a few bangs none of those are really worth all the work an average guy has to do, so that's why so many guys drop out or just settle for a 4-5 and wife them up.

+1 Blazing hot fire here, everything you just wrote is the straight up truth.

Post: #220

(12-16-2014 12:32 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 10:35 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(12-16-2014 12:25 AM)memcpy Wrote:  For those that think Gio is an anomaly, he isn't. I was fortunate enough to meet guys in Tokyo (both foreign and Japanese) that have logged thousands of approaches on the streets of Tokyo and have gotten "there" in less time than he did. It takes hard work busting your ass, and anyone with that attitude is going to improve. I've met too many Gio's and the advice he gives is solid.

Sorry but I disagree, you may see many guys approaching like Gio in Japan but that doesn't mean they are like him.
I also hear Japan is a lot easier to game, as compared to USA/Canada.
I know many men who have checked out when it comes to women, they all sing the same song that women want money etc.
Gio is anomaly, I don't want to come across like I am one of his fanboys. The man has more than earned my respect.

It's not. If anything it's HARDER to game in Japan, the only thing that makes it easier is the public transit, because logistics in ANY major Japanese city are pretty much the best in the world.

But Japanese girls have their issues that makes game somewhat of a chore. . .there's a LOT of B.S. to wade through on top of the western-stuff they're picking up.

Then there's the language barrier issues as well.

SO basically anyone come to the place needs to put in 1.5x-2x more work Gio put into game. if they want to get 8's and 9's constantly. Otherwise, most foreign dudes just stick to certain Niche subsets of women - which isn't bad really, they range from 5-7 range and few 8's. . .thing is, if you don't leave the country for a few weeks every year, you'll get burned out eventually (the burn-out is REAL. happened to me, made me make a few life mistakes that I regret)

So yeah, Japan has a whole set of issues that need to be worked out, game and otherwise.

Granted my info could be outdated, but I know many dudes albeit men of colour who spent time in Japan.
One came back with a wife, another buddy left a child there after 20 years living there and a good friend said the prettiest girl he dated ever was Japanese. The guys own sister asked him how he got this girl and I have seen thisdude with nice model like young girls.
I also know two cats living there now and they don't work, in fact not sure what they do. I do know they have no interest in coming back to Canada not even to visit family.

Compared to Toronto, I am almost willing to bet Toyko is a lot easier and I am sure I would enjoy the experience. Generally, big cities are more favourable for gaming due to the sheer numbers.
Toronto is not a big city for the record.

Akula comments sums it up nicer than I could ever.
Western countries force you to develop daily to the point it actually becomes an obsession.
Fitness, style, making money, having a car or a decent place is all part of the check list one must have to get mediocre girls.
Yet when I go to other places I get with the kind of girls one can only dream about or girls make it easy for me to open them.

Post: #221

(12-10-2014 06:15 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I love the last few posts here by the guys in their 40's. So much wisdom in those posts. Young guys copy and paste them, print them out, and read them once a week. It will do more for you than anything else you could ever do.

I am on the same page as these guys. I remember being in my 20's. I thought about women all the time. I would lie awake at night worrying I would never find someone. That my life was meaningless. That I would never find any happiness. In your 20's you think sex and finding the right woman is all that matters in life.

When you hit your 30's you realize this is not true. In fact the opposite is true today. There are so few good women, in a system designed to destroy families and men, that in fact finding a great woman is almost impossible and you are more likely to fuck your own future in trying to do so. It is tough to realize this when you are 25, but trust me, it is the truth you will realize.

As you get older you realize women are good for two things, and that is it. #1) Entertainment. This is just the icing on the cake, but first you have to have the cake (becoming a full man and knowing what you want in your life). #2) Having your children. But this should be a VERY picky choice. Choosing not only the right woman, but also the right environment for our kids.

Guys in your 20's, just focus on yourself. Wake up everyday with the knowledge that this day you will improve yourself. You will learn something new. You will get to the gym and grow more muscle or burn off more fat. You will improve your inner game. You will become more confident. You might learn a new phrase in another language. But everyday you will improve who you are and that will allow you to grow into who you want to be. Women are an after thought. If one comes along worth fucking, then go for it. If not, get some good sleep, you have lots of growth, and it is more fun and rewarding than being stuck in a marriage with kids that limit your personal growth.

excellent post - i'm 29 and only started to realize this.

Post: #222

(12-16-2014 03:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Granted my info could be outdated, but I know many dudes albeit men of colour who spent time in Japan.
One came back with a wife, another buddy left a child there after 20 years living there and a good friend said the prettiest girl he dated ever was Japanese. The guys own sister asked him how he got this girl and I have seen thisdude with nice model like young girls.
I also know two cats living there now and they don't work, in fact not sure what they do. I do know they have no interest in coming back to Canada not even to visit family.

Compared to Toronto, I am almost willing to bet Toyko is a lot easier and I am sure I would enjoy the experience. Generally, big cities are more favourable for gaming due to the sheer numbers.
Toronto is not a big city for the record.

Akula comments sums it up nicer than I could ever.
Western countries force you to develop daily to the point it actually becomes an obsession.
Fitness, style, making money, having a car or a decent place is all part of the check list one must have to get mediocre girls.
Yet when I go to other places I get with the kind of girls one can only dream about or girls make it easy for me to open them.

OH shit, I forgot Toronto is in Canada. . .yeah, Fuck toronto.


About Japanese girls though and living there:

When you first get there, pretty much every girl there looks like an 8-9.

That is if you're coming from a western country or shit-tier city (i.e. Toronto)

So yeah when a dude brings a girl back that he probably wifed up as soon as he got there (You really shouldn't marry J-women but I don't want to write a book on why so I'll save that for another time) to most people in the west, she looked like a 9. But to us who's been there for a long period of time, we realize that she's a 6 maybe 7 max. . .this is how sad girls are looking in the states.

Real Japanese 8's and 9's are just unbelievably hot if you're not acclimated to the girls there.

Of course when coming back to the states(before I found the roosh forums) I was in utter, UTTER shock. At work, the office is FILLED with women! its like a 2-1 female male ratio but about 95% of them are obese, to MORBIDLY obese, AND Have 2-3 kids! OR they look like dykes! I had one of them constantly flirt with me and touch me a couple times she looked like Precious' ugly fat sister!. . .it was horrible.

So yeah coming back here was a culture shock in the wrong direction.

So yeah, pretty much a Japanese 5 would probably be a 9 to someone who had to spend most of his life after school around women like that.

Im pretty sure this goes for China and Korea as well.

I'd suggest sometime in April that you go to Tokyo and just WALK around Shibuya for two hours, one hours without a camera, and then the next with a camera. The first hour you will be blown away The second hour will be for memory purposes.

Make sure when you get to Shibuya in your first hour, that you go to the Shibuya 109 store, its the huge 9-story phallic shaped building in the center of town to the left of the famous crossing (if you're coming out the station)

btw, I'm Black, and yes I did well but I also did well* before I left the states while I was in college learning game. Game in Asia is a bit different than the states, not too much, but still enough to where you need to put in the extra work to learn it all.

Also, different countries in asia are different as well
but, the basic rules still do apply, Hypergamy is alive and well,

Niches, and fishing those Niches help players go form basic to "not basic" easier. Getting higher becomes more like a job. . .

*I believe when I and others say that black folks do well in a certain place, its more meaning "black guys do just as well as white guys do there" not that black dudes just do well to the detriment of white dudes. . .the only country I can think of based on what I've heard here on the forum is Australia. . .I met a decent looking Aussie chick in Japan and got her number but, she was pretty annoyingly argumentative, bitch always had to be right at everything. So I just never called her back.

Also one thing I also noticed is that white girls have HIGHER smv in Japan than they do in the states, so Fat white whales in clubs OFTEN get tons of male attention. . .BUT they don't get "the D" unless they are young, hot and slim, then they just go crazy with sleeping with different lucky/well versed in game J dudes. Don't even let me get started on the Russian girls that live there, I know what you guys in Russia are talking about, since I met a couple of ladies like that by pure luck. . .it's amazing.

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^^^ heh, yeah once again you could say almost the exact same things re Russian women versus American women. I hate to keep saying it but it's true when you come back the the US after being in Russia it's just depressing how many fat & unattractive women there are.

Funny how despite all the better aspects of Japanese and Russian women many on this forum say in other threads that they both make very bad marriage candidates

Certainly don't bring them back home unless you've got 'em on lockdown, have Jedi-like game and speak their language. Even all that might not help given how brutal the feminist and victimology presence is in America, and how women are programmed to think "fat is beautiful." You're just playing with fire (and divorce rape).

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(12-16-2014 10:44 PM)Akula Wrote:  ^^^ heh, yeah once again you could say almost the exact same things re Russian women versus American women. I hate to keep saying it but it's true when you come back the the US after being in Russia it's just depressing how many fat & unattractive women there are.

Funny how despite all the better aspects of Japanese and Russian women many on this forum say in other threads that they both make very bad marriage candidates

Certainly don't bring them back home unless you've got 'em on lockdown, have Jedi-like game and speak their language. Even all that might not help given how brutal the feminist and victimology presence is in America, and how women are programmed to think "fat is beautiful." You're just playing with fire (and divorce rape).

You don't want to marry a Japanese woman for cultural reasons IN japan or the states, Idk about Russian women though. its pretty sad though, if you REALLY want to start a family with a J-girl in Japan, you'd better be pretty high up on the hyepergamic ladder or else you'll be in trouble if you ever get a divorce(not divorce court rape but just other b.s. that'll happen). Also after you marry a J-girl and she has one kid. . .sex stops, period.

For men like us on the forum who want to get married and have a family etc etc, its really hard unless you want to live in China Thailand and the phils (idk about Rus and Korea)

Pretty much, marriage in any other country is just not worth it for men, knowing how women are etc. . .THAT is sad and kind of depresses me a bit. I do want to have a family eventually (like 55 about) but I would have to have:

1)location independent biz, and/or passive cashflow
2)have enough money to live in one of those three countries and being very well off while doing so
3)possibly having enough money to take care of the woman's extended family as well.
4)marry the youngest girl I can legally marry and start popping out kids with her RIGHT away

When it comes to that I don't really know what I'm going to do though as sometimes those options don't seem too intriguing (except #1&2).

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(12-16-2014 10:36 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  ... I had one of them constantly flirt with me and touch me a couple times she looked like Precious' ugly fat sister!. . .it was horrible.

So yeah coming back here was a culture shock in the wrong direction.

So yeah, pretty much a Japanese 5 would probably be a 9 to someone who had to spend most of his life after school around women like that.

Im pretty sure this goes for China and Korea as well.

I'd suggest sometime in April that you go to Tokyo and just WALK around Shibuya for two hours, one hours without a camera, and then the next with a camera. The first hour you will be blown away The second hour will be for memory purposes.
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Precious' ugly fat sister - hehe.

That's one of the reasons I plan to move to Japan from EE. Japan has so far resisted the fattening and feminism to a greater degree. The men seem to be more affected by it than women. Though they became affected by it in their own way by not getting children - that however is also cultural there.

In any case I think that Japan will be the most developed country with the highest number of slim non-feminist women for decades to come. You need to learn the language though and hypergamy is alive and well there too of course.