Post: #76

(11-19-2014 11:28 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Eh, thanks but I cannot do this justice. I think Samseau or Scorpion and Kosko for sure once did a total ripping of this before but I cannot find it using the search. Kosko had alot of inside knowledge on the swinging scene I remembered. I'll send him a PM.

These posts by Heartiste could be relevant:

The Ugly Reality Of Open Relationships

The Difference Between “Open” and “No Fucks Given” Relationships

Edit: I want to add that although this isn't an open relationship he's talking about, in effect they would be sharing the sexual aspect of their relationship to other men.

Post: #77

It appears OP is serious and not a troll.

This thread is not going in the direction I was hoping for.

Post: #78

(11-19-2014 02:05 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Sorry I find inviting a guy to come and have sexual gratification in close and intimate proximity to me to be very gay.

You can claim its about ego and insecurity and not putting a girl on a pedestal all you want, but at the end of the day you're soliciting men to be naked with you and take what is yours.

Sounds like its your way of submitting and your hamster is trying to drop all these "alpha" buzzwords like "dark triad" (give me a break).

I don't think Sourcecode's outlook OR your outlook are correct.

If you are not viscerally turned off by seeing another naked dude fucking the same woman as you, that doesn't make you gay.

If you are viscerally turned off by seeing another naked dude fucking the same woman as you, that doesn't make you homophobic or weird.

I could give a crap if other guys like MFM threesomes versus some guys only liking MFF threesomes and some guys not liking threesomes at all. It's just a personal preference.

Myself, I get viscerally turned off by another naked dude fucking the same girl as I am, so I am in no way interested in MFM threesomes.

Why do you have to put other people down in your outlook when it's just a preference? Perhaps this points to an insecurity.

To the OP, it's a bad idea. Really bad since you have kids. If you're going to do it, definitely find a niche and exploit it. Going to be hard as there aren't a lot left.

Post: #79

On a scale with straight on one side, and gay on the other, where does looking around a room, picking a guy that matches your criteria, approaching him then offering up your gf in hopes that you can fuck her together fall?

Because like I said earlier, thats the gayest thing I've read on this forum.

And yes, if you want to call my being uncomfortable with the idea of doing all that an "insecurity" go right ahead.

Last I heard this was a forum about gaming girls, not approaching men no matter how dark triad or whatever you claim to be.

Edit - I'm not hijacking this thread anymore and not really interested in hearing anyone defend this preference. You guys go your way and I'll go mine.

Post: #80

OP - She's your wife - not a 2.99$ token slut. If I was you, Id get on some dating sites, find a few lonely, broke sluts (tons of these) & work your way to pimping them out. In terms of pimping I think your wife could actually be an asset - not a tool.

Post: #81

Came her for trolling, was disappointed.

Post: #82

(11-19-2014 09:45 AM)Oz. Wrote:  Actual picture of OP and his wife

Gross who the hell is that????

Post: #83

(11-19-2014 10:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 12:09 AM)Veloce Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(11-18-2014 07:23 AM)Mike74 Wrote:  My wife wants to become a webcam model, she’s pretty hot and she’s willing to let guys perv over her. Me, I’m all for it but I need some advice from you guys and girls on what she can expect in terms of the actual dancing and the type of guys who’ll be viewing her.
She’s not going to add on her profile things like anal, toys and fucking unless it’s me of course. Just dancing, talking, stripping and masturbating with her hand that is.
Then of course what type of money could she earn realistically doing this part time as she already has a day job? Let’s just say this is her fantasy / hobby but there has to be some sort of reward in hard cold currency.
Thanks, anything input will help us decide if it’s a red or green light.

There are so many things wrong with this, I do not know where to begin.

There is no way any redpill man can be redpill and into cuckoldry.

How is it cuckoldry if a bunch of random dudes want to pay money to watch you fuck your girl?

Shit I'd be down for that. I used to fuck my girlfriend in high school in front of our friends. For free.

Edit: I should probably clarify. It's not like we would announce it, "Hey everyone! Wanna see us have sex?!" I just mean we'd wind up getting it on at a house party and not be too discreet about it, an invariably people would watch.

I'm not going to dig deep. I wasted too much time already on other stuff this morning. It would take Scorpion, Athlone, Kosko, Bosch, or Samseau to fully explain it I think.

Basically, any exhibitionism/swinging of any kind, just further feeds your female's hamster for attention whoring. You may be thinking, I am the man, I am in control here. Fact is that you are not and you never were. After a while, you will not only lose what control you thought you had, but you just opened a flood gate of male attention for a woman you are supposed to be controlling with traditional values and or game. You basically introduced a form of hedonism and dysfunction with the illusion that you are. Eventually she will create a bond with one of these other men and cheat or leave. Violation of these "rules" between you and her ruin the relationship.

Don't get me wrong, if you are doing this with some STR/mini relationship woman, who cares. With a LTR or wife? You are asking for trouble. Nearly all relationships like this end in epic failure. No couple that swung that I have ever met personally is together right now. It is on par with gay relationships.

The fact that this guy even calls this woman his best friend means that he is bluepill and beta. That is not masculine frame. He has no authority in his household. If he told her no today, she would do it anyway tomorrow. If he was redpill or an alpha, it would be the reverse. He would be bringing multiple women to sex HIM, not one another, only seeking HIS validation. That and she would be on a STR basis and not his wife. Who the fuck marries a stripper anyway? Oh yeah, simps and betas. Whose 2 kids are those? Are they his? Notice he said, she is a mother of two? He did not say that she is the mother of THEIR TWO children.

He is a blue pill and beta simp until proven otherwise. Period.

Thanks for your negative input, and yes both kids are mine with her.

Post: #84

(11-19-2014 01:31 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Mike, OP.

Why turn your wife into the whore, I mean I know she was a stripper before so its kind of established but...I would advise leveraging her porn star looks vs. having her be the one actually working.

If she is a former stripper and built like a porn star just have her 'madam' for other hot chicks or strippers that she know. You invest in good equipment and a space to do the videos and your wife recruits the girls. You collect all of the money and pay the girl the girls a share of it.

Then its you and your 'best friend' running a business which brings in other hot women, which make you money and you two can likely 3way on camera.

Don't make your wife the main whore. Make her the madam.

Another good idea, I would never treat my wife as a whore. We both made this decision together and yes I was thinking about eventually having other women do it for my wife as a business. I respect everyone's opinion but they should in return respect ours. All these guys viewing her will be from another country because you can make those settings on your profile. So no one even remotely near us will know what goes on behind our closed doors.

Post: #85

(11-19-2014 04:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  On a scale with straight on one side, and gay on the other, where does looking around a room, picking a guy that matches your criteria, approaching him then offering up your gf in hopes that you can fuck her together fall?

Because like I said earlier, thats the gayest thing I've read on this forum.

And yes, if you want to call my being uncomfortable with the idea of doing all that an "insecurity" go right ahead.

Last I heard this was a forum about gaming girls, not approaching men no matter how dark triad or whatever you claim to be.

Edit - I'm not hijacking this thread anymore and not really interested in hearing anyone defend this preference. You guys go your way and I'll go mine.

Guys lets just get one thing straight right now. We are not gay and WILL not engaged with gay people, we are straight. No one is fucking my wife, no one is hooking up with her or me for that matter. We just want some cool idea's and positive advise because we both will be venturing into this business together as a team.
Now some of you have mentioned that its wrong because we have kids. OUR kids, yes I am the biological father of her 2 kids to answer that question, will ensure that they are protected and shield from what we do privately. Then from those of you who think I'm trolling, get a fucking life man, you should by now know what trolling is all about by now! Again......no gay stuff ok, lets keep it tidy and on the topic.

Post: #86

(11-19-2014 04:30 PM)FrenchCanadian Wrote:  OP - She's your wife - not a 2.99$ token slut. If I was you, Id get on some dating sites, find a few lonely, broke sluts (tons of these) & work your way to pimping them out. In terms of pimping I think your wife could actually be an asset - not a tool.

Um what part of we doing this together did you not understand mate?

Post: #87

(11-19-2014 11:53 PM)Mike74 Wrote:  

(11-19-2014 09:45 AM)Oz. Wrote:  Actual picture of OP and his wife

Gross who the hell is that????

Fuck those of you who think I'm trolling!! This is me and my family and yes are happy and inseparable! This is not a fucking game its serious I can assure you. I'd like to thanks those of you who have provided great idea's and positive feedback...thank you.

Post: #88

And it's still going.

Post: #89

Dude, get those pics of yourself and your fam down. TF is wrong with you?!

Post: #90

OP has to be a troll... otherwise I feel bad for his kids when they hit their teens, start watching porn, and then accidentally stumble on a 10 year old webcam video of mommy and daddy floating around the internet.

Post: #91

What. The. Fuck.

Post: #92

Atomic bomb dropped. The family photo op!

I heard about this thread.

Juice was worth the squeeze I give it a solid 8/10 WR.

Post: #93

Oh lawd, oh lawd, oh lawd

Post: #94

This can't be real. A married man with kids trying to prove himself to a bunch of anonymous guys on the internet. I don't want to believe it.

Post: #95

(11-20-2014 12:45 AM)Osiris Wrote:  Dude, get those pics of yourself and your fam down. TF is wrong with you?!

yes sir!

Post: #96

(11-20-2014 12:48 AM)Saladin Wrote:  

OP has to be a troll... otherwise I feel bad for his kids when they hit their teens, start watching porn, and then accidentally stumble on a 10 year old webcam video of mommy and daddy floating around the internet.

So what, what will happen in 10 years time then?

Post: #97

This man has conviction!

If he was a troll he'd be winning against of us like Little Dark vs. The 30 White Knights...

Post: #98

(11-20-2014 01:22 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  This man has conviction!

If he was a troll he'd be winning against of us like Little Dark vs. The 30 White Knights...

Ok not sure what that means but I think I have got enough info from some of genuine people and garbage from the rest.
I'll keep the real ones updated because our new venture will only start in December when my wife and I both go on leave.

Post: #99

Post: #100

(11-20-2014 01:22 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  This man has conviction!

If he was a troll he'd be winning against of us like Little Dark vs. The 30 White Knights...

Well, the fact that OP has NOT yet been banned may cause some RVF'ers to believe that OP is legit, and with some kind of legit scenario that he is describing.

So, yep, OP is surely beating our asses with what seems to be a stupid-ass scenario that makes little to no sense in the real world regarding what guys should be striving to pursue in long term relationships.

Short term relations may be another story, but even then, I would find it somewhat troubling to be involved in relations that are inviting other guys.. and allowing my participation to be minimized and seemingly marginalized... Call it insecurity or whatever, but I like to participate and direct significant and material aspects of my relationships with women, and when they seem to be calling a large majority of the shots, I lose my sense of manliness... and even sense that the girl loses her respect and/or deference towards me and my preferences when she is given too much latitude and control in our relationship.

In other words, I likely would NOT agree, and I likely would put my foot down, unless there were to be some way to frame the situation in such a way in which the girl is fulfilling various needs and desires that I truly want fulfilled.

I believe TravelerKai made several good points well in his above post.