Post: #26

The reason why they are such hardasses about the ID is because they get big big shit (like idiotic huge fines, loosing their liquor license, being closed down, etc) if cops run some sort of sting operation trying to get an underage person in and getting a drink. In North America, if a kid comes in with fake id and is served alcohol, it's the club's fault, the kid gets off easy mostly and the club gets all the punishment. And they enforce it hard. That's why clubs, stores, etc are such fucking hard asses about it.

The reporting your location thing is pretty standard if your living anywhere long term on a visa in the world. If your living there on a visa, then go to your local DMV and get a state drivers license (if you can drive) or just an ID card if you don't care to drive (less work). You can use that going into clubs and such and not have to use your passport.

Post: #27

(08-27-2011 12:43 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  I heard of a student at university that got two tickets on the SAME DAY for jaywalking. I hear they say that Honolulu is more strict on jay walking then other cities.

Have you met this student in person? Americans are notorious for recirculating gossips without even bothering whether something like that really happened in the first place. This is part of culture here, so be extremely skeptical when you talk to the people, and take everything with a grain of salt.

Post: #28

(08-28-2011 04:06 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(08-27-2011 12:43 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  I heard of a student at university that got two tickets on the SAME DAY for jaywalking. I hear they say that Honolulu is more strict on jay walking then other cities.

Have you met this student in person? Americans are notorious for recirculating gossips without even bothering whether something like that really happened in the first place. This is part of culture here, so be extremely skeptical when you talk to the people, and take everything with a grain of salt.

It was the international student coordinator at university that gave me and a class filled with other international students this piece of information.

Post: #29

(08-25-2011 06:05 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  I've been staying in US soil for 4 days now. Things I found out:

-I can get a 130$ fine for "jay walking", something I never heard before. There are police people dressed as civilians out there to fine me.

-The university I'm currently enrolled at needs to send a "report" every two weeks on me to the US government. I constantly need to update my local residence adress, so they know where I am and what I'm up to.

-I can't do one of my favourite pre-party rituals, ie walking my way to the venue sipping my warm-up beer. I'm "not allowed" to drink "in public places".

-Although I'm 24 and -look- 24 or older, I still need to show ID to prove I'm over 21... to buy a freaking beer I can't drink on the street.

-I just attempted my first night out to party/practice my game in foreign lands and the bouncers didn't let me in a half empty club because I only had a colored xerox copy of my passaport, as I am cautious about the most important document I can carry abroad and don't feel like going out partying and drinking with it on my pocket.

... and this is not mainland USA, its freaking Honolulu. I wasnt't expecting this kinda crap on the edge of US soil.

We in Brazil are used to partying naked on the streets. We like to party, drink and f***. Honolulu is a beautiful place with amazing, caring, respectful and gentle people. I do not doubt most americans are likewise.

Why do you guys take this crap?

When are the UK revolts coming to the US?

I feel like shitting in the streets as a protest.

How many Brazilians want to move to the US vs. how many Americans want to live in Brazil?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil

With roughly 23.8 homicides per 100,000 residents,[28] muggings, robberies, kidnappings[29] and gang violence[30] Brazil is one of the most criminalized countries of the world.

Post: #30

(08-28-2011 08:23 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

(08-25-2011 06:05 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  I've been staying in US soil for 4 days now. Things I found out:

-I can get a 130$ fine for "jay walking", something I never heard before. There are police people dressed as civilians out there to fine me.

-The university I'm currently enrolled at needs to send a "report" every two weeks on me to the US government. I constantly need to update my local residence adress, so they know where I am and what I'm up to.

-I can't do one of my favourite pre-party rituals, ie walking my way to the venue sipping my warm-up beer. I'm "not allowed" to drink "in public places".

-Although I'm 24 and -look- 24 or older, I still need to show ID to prove I'm over 21... to buy a freaking beer I can't drink on the street.

-I just attempted my first night out to party/practice my game in foreign lands and the bouncers didn't let me in a half empty club because I only had a colored xerox copy of my passaport, as I am cautious about the most important document I can carry abroad and don't feel like going out partying and drinking with it on my pocket.

... and this is not mainland USA, its freaking Honolulu. I wasnt't expecting this kinda crap on the edge of US soil.

We in Brazil are used to partying naked on the streets. We like to party, drink and f***. Honolulu is a beautiful place with amazing, caring, respectful and gentle people. I do not doubt most americans are likewise.

Why do you guys take this crap?

When are the UK revolts coming to the US?

I feel like shitting in the streets as a protest.

How many Brazilians want to move to the US vs. how many Americans want to live in Brazil?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil

With roughly 23.8 homicides per 100,000 residents,[28] muggings, robberies, kidnappings[29] and gang violence[30] Brazil is one of the most criminalized countries of the world.

This is not a competition.

Post: #31

(08-29-2011 12:10 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(08-28-2011 08:23 PM)ao85 Wrote:  

(08-25-2011 06:05 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  I've been staying in US soil for 4 days now. Things I found out:

-I can get a 130$ fine for "jay walking", something I never heard before. There are police people dressed as civilians out there to fine me.

-The university I'm currently enrolled at needs to send a "report" every two weeks on me to the US government. I constantly need to update my local residence adress, so they know where I am and what I'm up to.

-I can't do one of my favourite pre-party rituals, ie walking my way to the venue sipping my warm-up beer. I'm "not allowed" to drink "in public places".

-Although I'm 24 and -look- 24 or older, I still need to show ID to prove I'm over 21... to buy a freaking beer I can't drink on the street.

-I just attempted my first night out to party/practice my game in foreign lands and the bouncers didn't let me in a half empty club because I only had a colored xerox copy of my passaport, as I am cautious about the most important document I can carry abroad and don't feel like going out partying and drinking with it on my pocket.

... and this is not mainland USA, its freaking Honolulu. I wasnt't expecting this kinda crap on the edge of US soil.

We in Brazil are used to partying naked on the streets. We like to party, drink and f***. Honolulu is a beautiful place with amazing, caring, respectful and gentle people. I do not doubt most americans are likewise.

Why do you guys take this crap?

When are the UK revolts coming to the US?

I feel like shitting in the streets as a protest.

How many Brazilians want to move to the US vs. how many Americans want to live in Brazil?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil

With roughly 23.8 homicides per 100,000 residents,[28] muggings, robberies, kidnappings[29] and gang violence[30] Brazil is one of the most criminalized countries of the world.

This is not a competition.

Most countries I've been to have laws stating that foreigners need to have their passport on them at all times. Have you looked into the possibility of getting a university or state ID with your birthdate on it?

Post: #32

Hey Amour,

Americans get a bad name for going to other countries and complaining. haha

Try to embrace the differences and concentrate on the experience. You will have a new appreciation for home once you are done.

Post: #33

Guys,

don't get me wrong, I am having a wonderful time. The thing is, as an initial knee jerk reaction, I must say I got quite scared and impressed with this whole 'panopticon' thing going on. You guys have things laid down differently over here.

Don't take my 'criticism' the bad way, it is always good to have an outsider's perspective on things people who were raised on this or that culture might take for granted.

And yes, the state ID with my birthdate on is a GREAT idea, I'll be looking for it this week.

Thanks for the help!