Post: #26

(10-22-2014 12:20 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 01:47 PM)Garzero Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 12:11 PM)Akula Wrote:  just come to Kiev half of Donetsk is here. But seriously this war in the east is not a joke and nobody here is giving u free pussy bc you are some savior from the West.

Totally agree. It doesn't seem a wise idea, and not for a matter of morality. With all those Ukrainian guys gone to the war-zone risking their life for the country, being a love tourist surely won't make you appear as a giant of alpha masculinity.

"all those Ukrainian guys gone to the war-zone"?? All 450 of them? I mean, it's not exactly as if half of Ukrainian guys had volunteered to actually go fight...

He was talking precisely about gaming in "refugee camps", not Ukraine in general. I guess in those particular places people experience a stronger proximity with guys fighting in the war, and likely they personally know someone who died or got injuried. This can have a considerable unfluence on how girls perceive masculinity there at the moment, plus an increase of national solidarity that emotionally gathers girls on ukrainan guys, although I don't deny you can still find a girl desperate for dick, affection or simply a good meal, ready to put out right away after she met you, but why the hell should we talk about game here then?

Anyway, there's an actual national army fighting at the moment in Ukraine and on full alert about a still possible russian invasion, so I don't think your 450 make any sense, not even in an ironical way.
This said, I'm the first assuming that in other parts of Ukraine, especially in the west (Lviv, Uzhoorod), being a love tourist can be quite effective now.

Post: #27

(10-22-2014 05:11 AM)Garzero Wrote:  Anyway, there's an actual national army fighting at the moment in Ukraine and on full alert about a still possible russian invasion, so I don't think your 450 make any sense, not even in an ironical way.
This said, I'm the first assuming that in other parts of Ukraine, especially in the west (Lviv, Uzhoorod), being a love tourist can be quite effective now.

The "actual national army" of a big country of 40 millions people, unable to take back a dilapidated airport from a few hundreds "rebels"? Seems to me they, themselves, can't muster more than a few hundreds "soldiers"...

As to their being on "full alert"... Well, the thought of a bunch of young Ukrainian dudes on "full alert" , is quite funny... Full alert as in half-awake between siesta and vodka, right?

Anyway, (intelligent) refugee chicks in Kiev certainly have to be more than ready to mingle with Westerners If they don't, their short-sightedness is awesome.

Post: #28

(10-22-2014 03:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway, (intelligent) refugee chicks in Kiev certainly have to be more than ready to mingle with Westerners If they don't, their short-sightedness is awesome.

Indeed my point wasn't that ukrainan girls wouldn't open their legs for a westerner passing by, but that there's so little dignity in going to game in refugee camps.

Post: #29

(10-23-2014 02:32 AM)Garzero Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 03:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway, (intelligent) refugee chicks in Kiev certainly have to be more than ready to mingle with Westerners If they don't, their short-sightedness is awesome.

Indeed my point wasn't that ukrainan girls wouldn't open their legs for a westerner passing by, but that there's so little dignity in going to game in refugee camps.

Thing is, I am quite sure that Donbass refugees in Kiev have a better, easier life than 95% of Filipinas and 85% of central American women... so, following your thinking, is it "undignified" to game all of them?

Post: #30

I would like to add something: If you think that "gaming refugee women" is bad, it means that, somehow, you've become a victim of feminism. Because it means that, consciously or not, you think that you are actually harming a woman when you "game" her.

Whereas, it totally is the contrary: you are giving her great times, by inviting her to a bar or restaurant or probably both, you are entertaining her with stories, then you are - hopefully- giving her nice or even great memories in bed, at the same time improving her mental and physical health (by shagging her)... So, there is no shame in gaming refugee women, because actually it's a gift of good times that you are offering her, enlightening her monotonous, listless life by your bold and welcome actions.

Post: #31

(10-24-2014 10:28 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 02:32 AM)Garzero Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 03:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway, (intelligent) refugee chicks in Kiev certainly have to be more than ready to mingle with Westerners If they don't, their short-sightedness is awesome.

Indeed my point wasn't that ukrainan girls wouldn't open their legs for a westerner passing by, but that there's so little dignity in going to game in refugee camps.

Thing is, I am quite sure that Donbass refugees in Kiev have a better, easier life than 95% of Filipinas and 85% of central American women... so, following your thinking, is it "undignified" to game all of them?

If I go to Filipinas I go with the goal of banging filipina girls, I don't care if they are poor or rich. I go with same spirit I would go to some rich country like Sweden or Netherlands, and don't give a shit if filipinas are easier. Pussy is pussy.
But if I decide to go to fuck some ukrainan girl, I might go gaming in a 5.000 inhabitants village in the middle of nowhere where they see me as a rockstar even if I'm ugly like shit, and maybe fucking a 40 yo single mother with a belly and hair on the nose, and still not seeing anything undignified in this, and if a flag or a notch is my goal, I would feel proud if I have achieved it.
But going in war refugee zone to do this.... no. I wouldn't. Period. Then, as I already stated, if someone wants to do it, free to do it. After all, it's legal. I won't judge him. But sincerly he won't have my esteem.

Post: #32

(10-15-2014 03:10 PM)TheMusketeer Wrote:  Sounds scary, what are you going to do? claim you are a refugee and trade bread for sex in the refugee centre?

^ made my day, thanks.

Post: #33

(10-25-2014 10:20 AM)Garzero Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:28 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 02:32 AM)Garzero Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 03:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Anyway, (intelligent) refugee chicks in Kiev certainly have to be more than ready to mingle with Westerners If they don't, their short-sightedness is awesome.

Indeed my point wasn't that ukrainan girls wouldn't open their legs for a westerner passing by, but that there's so little dignity in going to game in refugee camps.

Thing is, I am quite sure that Donbass refugees in Kiev have a better, easier life than 95% of Filipinas and 85% of central American women... so, following your thinking, is it "undignified" to game all of them?

If I go to Filipinas I go with the goal of banging filipina girls, I don't care if they are poor or rich. I go with same spirit I would go to some rich country like Sweden or Netherlands, and don't give a shit if filipinas are easier. Pussy is pussy.
But if I decide to go to fuck some ukrainan girl, I might go gaming in a 5.000 inhabitants village in the middle of nowhere where they see me as a rockstar even if I'm ugly like shit, and maybe fucking a 40 yo single mother with a belly and hair on the nose, and still not seeing anything undignified in this, and if a flag or a notch is my goal, I would feel proud if I have achieved it.
But going in war refugee zone to do this.... no. I wouldn't. Period. Then, as I already stated, if someone wants to do it, free to do it. After all, it's legal. I won't judge him. But sincerly he won't have my esteem.

The poster didn't say he would actually go to Donbass, he said he would seek refugee "zones" in Kiev, and game women there. No shame in that : those people are certainly NOT starving, in Kiev, cause the government surely has provided for them (for obvious political reasons)...

Anyway, once again, gaming women is adding value and fun to THEIR life, so, I do not understand your logic. Or is it that half-starving Filipinas deserve less respect than not-even-starving tall blonde Ukrainian chicks??

And frankly, if you are red-pill, why would you pass on a hot Donetsk chick drinking away her troubles in a Kiev bar? You sound (selectively) White-Knight, my friend. Red Pill with Filipinas, White Knight with Donetsk girls, how strange?

As to : "and maybe fucking a 40 yo single mother with a belly and hair on the nose, and still not seeing anything undignified in this" .... well, I would not even think of ever fucking a 40 yo woman, in FSU. The thought of it actually creeps me out a bit... and how in Hell would she give you a boner: drunk or sober, no way a 40 yo FSU woman passes boner test.

Post: #34

While the exploitation of refugees is a low that I would not dare stoop to, I have noticed an uptick in women from Ukraine who are pinging me on some upscale dating sites I belong to.

War wrecks the economy for most, thus even the folks in the Western Ukraine are suffering tremendously. The ones with Visas are looking to relocate; the ones without are taking greater risks to acquire them--although they are hard to get and requires some cash to secure them. One girl I am speaking to--a legit 8 and Kiev personality--has not been paid in 4 months.

If anyone wants to know how to finagle the visa process with a high success rate PM me--it involves enrolling the dvyushka in an institution of instruction.

Post: #35

This has got to be one of the silliest threads ever and I am shocked that it hasn't been locked yet.

Why do I say this?

Because the majority of EXPERIENCED Ukrainian players seem to not object on moral issues. That argument seems to be coming out some other persons butts lol. The guys with experience have LEFT this thread behind with rolling eyes!

What the EXPERIENCED members have warned against is that the type of game(refugee) will backfire because of the extractive nature of Ukrainian women and of course that ends up hurting most foreigners in the long run because either:

a. they will be on increased lookout for a NEW type of sex tourist and avoid them or
b. They will be on the lookout for this NEW type of gamer so they can get free meals, money, gifts and all the other stuff these girls are ALWAYS on the lookout for since 1991 lol.

Refugee game regardless of intentions will probably do just as much damage as GREEK KAMAKI game did in Roosh's Polish night out.

PS---if you going to attempt to discuss UA politics( example-UA military, etc) I suggest you head over to the UA conflict forum. Those gents will straighten you up in a few posts! Your numbers are WAY off. Someone has been listening to Hillary again(rolls eyes)

Post: #36

(10-25-2014 11:17 AM)Going strong Wrote:  The poster didn't say he would actually go to Donbass, he said he would seek refugee "zones" in Kiev, and game women there. No shame in that : those people are certainly NOT starving, in Kiev, cause the government surely has provided for them (for obvious political reasons)...

Anyway, once again, gaming women is adding value and fun to THEIR life, so, I do not understand your logic. Or is it that half-starving Filipinas deserve less respect than not-even-starving tall blonde Ukrainian chicks??

And frankly, if you are red-pill, why would you pass on a hot Donetsk chick drinking away her troubles in a Kiev bar? You sound (selectively) White-Knight, my friend. Red Pill with Filipinas, White Knight with Donetsk girls, how strange?

As to : "and maybe fucking a 40 yo single mother with a belly and hair on the nose, and still not seeing anything undignified in this" .... well, I would not even think of ever fucking a 40 yo woman, in FSU. The thought of it actually creeps me out a bit... and how in Hell would she give you a boner: drunk or sober, no way a 40 yo FSU woman passes boner test.

Come on that guy was saying he wanted to deliver food to ukrainan war refugees in order to get laid, not to game some hottie in some bar in Kiev... He himself admitted it was a crappy idea. Why going so low to get some pussy?

Of course I also wouldn't touch a 40 yo with belly and nose hair (actually, as I wrote in another post, I'm currently banging an 18 yo from, guess what, east Ukraine). I was talking by paradox: I wouldn't laugh at a guy who is so thirsty that would bang even that kind of woman, but I wouldn't give much respect to one who goes to refugees camp for that, and still worse if he has some game knowledge.

Post: #37

(10-25-2014 12:21 PM)Garzero Wrote:  (actually, as I wrote in another post, I'm currently banging an 18 yo from, guess what, east Ukraine).

That's what we want to hear about 20 years younger than you? Congrats! How did you manage that? Where and how did lucky you game her?

Post: #38

(10-25-2014 05:58 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 12:21 PM)Garzero Wrote:  (actually, as I wrote in another post, I'm currently banging an 18 yo from, guess what, east Ukraine).

That's what we want to hear about 20 years younger than you? Congrats! How did you manage that? Where and how did lucky you game her?

Basic dancefloor game in a popular polish college city.

Post: #39

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Post: #40

(11-09-2014 11:45 AM)The Ligurian Wrote:  Donetsk was a wealthy part of the country so the refugees from there are 'Rolex refugees' in large part. I was recently in Dnipropetrovsk and met many refugee girls in the clubs, the girls had their I-phones and the guys rolled up in their Mercedes. My approaches went no better or worse than on other no refugee girls. They were not scarred mentally, they were out partying. They may have left their apartments behind but they didn't leave their cash/possessions behind!

They don't care about gramma's apartment back in Donetsk : as long as they have an I-phone they are happy, and as long as they have a nice ass, they'll get food, free drinks and hosting all over the country. All over the world if they wish to travel, too. Don't you worry about them