Post: #126

I'll post a few things here real quick, as I've been hit with a deadline that will have me working pretty much nonstop. It's not going to be the most "organized" outline of what I do and how to do it, but I'm low on time and still have to travel back to West Texas after the Cowboys game.

The short version of what a Landman is, in my terms.
Workers that negotiate oil and gas leases with mineral owners.
Workers who use public records online or in courthouses, such as; Warranty Deeds, Mineral Deeds, Probates, District Court Cases, Deeds of Trust, OG Leases, Partitions, etc. We find anything that has to do with the land and minerals to find out if there are active leases/wells, and who the current mineral owners are. Depending on the specific project you are on, you may not go into much depth on the land rights, and just concentrate on minerals. I've been on various types of projects(Mineral title/Abstracting[full title]/Due Dilligence/HBP[held by production]). I've done otheres, but mostly these types.
Projects can last weeks to years, it just depends on the type of project and the BUDGET! Many jobs don't last because the budget was not high enough.

If you are serious about getting a job as a landman and want to go ahead to take the steps pretty much required these days to get a job, the first thing I'd do is become a member of the AAPL(American Association of Professional Landman). http://www.landman.org/
If you have a 4 year degree I believe you can go ahead and apply to become an RL(Registered Landman). It's 4 years exp or a 4 year degree. I'm still an Associate member because I don't have a 4 year degree and only have around 3.5 years of experience.

A few good places to look for jobs:
Landmen.net-This is a GREAT website and the most widely used by companies looking for workers. Most on there require some experience, but sometimes you'll see some entry level positions. Entry level guys usually start out around $175-$200 a day, plus per diem/mileage/hotel.
http://www.landmancommunity.com/-I have not personally used this site for jobs, but looking at it seems to have a fairly good amount of jobs posted. You can also sign up on the forums and look for jobs that way.
http://www.landmanjobs.net/-Check this one out as well.

Every once in a while you'll see some good jobs on sites such as monster and other similar sites, but most companies post their jobs on landman specific sites.
Also join some of the groups on linkedin. (title research groups, oil and gas jobs and recruiting network, professional landman jobs)
Another huge way to find jobs is to get to the courthouses and ask around. Every once in a while you'll find a douche that thinks you're trying to get info about the specific project they are on, but others will gladly tell you whether they are hiring guys with/without experience and give you some contact info, or take yours.
A backdoor way to get into this business is to look for "courthouse imagers" jobs. They don't pay much, but can give you some good courthouse experience to throw on your resume.

There are tons of classes out there for Landmen. First thing I would google something like "landman classes (Dallas/Midland/Houston/etc.)" I know that Landman101 has a lot of classes, but have not personally known anyone that has taken classes from this site, but it's something to look into.
If you have the time, search how to run land/mineral title. Get the basics on how to do it and print them out.
After that go to the county appraisal website and select a tract of land to do research on. Start running that title so you can get some hands on experience. Train yourself.

If you're young and just going to college, look into degree programs such as Petroleum Engineering, Energy Commerce, Land Management, etc. On the AAPL website there's a list of degree programs that are accredited by this Association.

I know I haven't covered a ton of things about this career, but if any of you have any questions, just post them and I will do my best to give an answer. Others here I'm sure have plenty of knowledge about landmen specific careers, so hopefully they can do what they can do help as well.

Post: #127

Good info - maybe when you have more time you could discuss the following

-pros & cons or working as a landman vs working for an oil/service company

-which degrees land companies are looking for, for guys who have already graduated

-what the career path looks like (could you get hired by Chevron in a few years and get a major pay bump?)

These are all things that could be added to a separate data sheet if you wanted to elaborate.

Post: #128

(10-05-2014 10:50 AM)redbeard Wrote:  Good info - maybe when you have more time you could discuss the following

-pros & cons or working as a landman vs working for an oil/service company

-which degrees land companies are looking for, for guys who have already graduated

-what the career path looks like (could you get hired by Chevron in a few years and get a major pay bump?)

These are all things that could be added to a separate data sheet if you wanted to elaborate.

I just re-read my post and realized how unorganized it was, haha.
These are great questions and I'll get to them soon. If anyone else has anymore questions, please post em. I'll be more organized and thorough in the future.

Post: #129

(09-25-2014 09:25 PM)jimbobjuicy Wrote:  I've got a friend who works for one of the Big 4 as a MWD in North Dakota getting paid hourly and a day rate. I know they call MWD's movie watching dudes for a reason -- hence not working that much -- but my friend says that out of the 12 hr shift, the only real time spent working is ONE HOUR as long as there's no problems with tools. Can anyone working as a MWD validate this for me? I wanna believe him but I feel like he's exaggerating a lil bit.

I've seen MWD guys come out their trailers on like 3 occasions, one of them was to make a pizza run.

I get the impression they only do any work when something goes wrong with the drill bit.

Post: #130

(10-11-2014 04:34 PM)renotime Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 09:25 PM)jimbobjuicy Wrote:  I've got a friend who works for one of the Big 4 as a MWD in North Dakota getting paid hourly and a day rate. I know they call MWD's movie watching dudes for a reason -- hence not working that much -- but my friend says that out of the 12 hr shift, the only real time spent working is ONE HOUR as long as there's no problems with tools. Can anyone working as a MWD validate this for me? I wanna believe him but I feel like he's exaggerating a lil bit.

I've seen MWD guys come out their trailers on like 3 occasions, one of them was to make a pizza run.

I get the impression they only do any work when something goes wrong with the drill bit.

MWDing is among the most comfy oil jobs possible if things are going well.

Once you know what you are doing and drilling is going well you can get away with less than a combined hour of work a day if you want. Yet a lot of guys develop bad habits, failing to do the bare minimum of work that is even required. I have seen guys trade stocks all day, go to town and get drunk - coming back hours later than expected, getting high and falling asleep with the gas on, playing video games in their shack and doing the babe amount of work work remotely (50m away haha).

I run a much tighter ship lately and try and keep myself in good terms with who I work with. It is still very easy but I am also doing a MBA online and other hustles on top of that.

The last guy on my project got fired for running an online gambling service instead of keeping an eye on what he was meant to be doing.

Post: #131

Sounds like I need to look into MWD.

Post: #132

(10-11-2014 04:57 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 04:34 PM)renotime Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 09:25 PM)jimbobjuicy Wrote:  I've got a friend who works for one of the Big 4 as a MWD in North Dakota getting paid hourly and a day rate. I know they call MWD's movie watching dudes for a reason -- hence not working that much -- but my friend says that out of the 12 hr shift, the only real time spent working is ONE HOUR as long as there's no problems with tools. Can anyone working as a MWD validate this for me? I wanna believe him but I feel like he's exaggerating a lil bit.

I've seen MWD guys come out their trailers on like 3 occasions, one of them was to make a pizza run.

I get the impression they only do any work when something goes wrong with the drill bit.

MWDing is among the most comfy oil jobs possible if things are going well.

Once you know what you are doing and drilling is going well you can get away with less than a combined hour of work a day if you want. Yet a lot of guys develop bad habits, failing to do the bare minimum of work that is even required. I have seen guys trade stocks all day, go to town and get drunk - coming back hours later than expected, getting high and falling asleep with the gas on, playing video games in their shack and doing the babe amount of work work remotely (50m away haha).

I run a much tighter ship lately and try and keep myself in good terms with who I work with. It is still very easy but I am also doing a MBA online and other hustles on top of that.

The last guy on my project got fired for running an online gambling service instead of keeping an eye on what he was meant to be doing.

LMAO, how long did it take for you get used to everything to where everything felt like second nature?

Post: #133

My status:

1.Turning down multiple $50-$100K yr jobs for a plethora of reasons.

2. In the interview process for MWD within the Big 4. Will start in a respected position of higher pay.

3. Starting the paperwork for a lucrative manager role with a respected heavy hitter in the sciences here.

4. Finally found some bomb ass menudo. Finally.

It feels good to tell someone $100k just isn't good enough.

Post: #134

So most of the oil jobs are outside for 12 hours a day? I assume you use portapotties? On the pipeliners facebook group they love to troll people in the portapoties. With Chrohns's I have use one, I can not hold in a shit for 12 hours. I also don't like the idea of being tipped over or locked in a portapotties either.

Post: #135

Most shifts are 12 hrs, and the rig crew stays outside. If you are an FSR or similar, then you just show up to do repairs ect and bounce, or have to sit in your truck for long periods waiting. Plan on shitting in a porta-shitter. They've done away with a lot of the hazing now as the new generations of males can't handle it. With the positions of company man, directional driller, tool pusher, MWD/LWD, mud engineer, and mud logger, you'll probably have a trailer with a normal toilet. It mostly depends on whether or not the rig is a live on or not.

There are lots of jobs that don't require going to the rig. Shop hands, secretaries, ect. The oilfield is a massive operation, and covers all facets of employment.

Post: #136

With the price of oil going down, you guys in texas notice a decrease in the amount of positions available?

Post: #137

I have a CDL been browsing the thread but don't see much info for guys like me, is there any luck out there to make some cash with a CDL? right now I'm basically making nothing

Post: #138

I'm an insurance guy in the Permian Basin and have noticed there are lots of jobs available for guys with a CDL. There are dozens of small to mid size companies looking for drivers to haul water, dirt, acid, heavy equipment, etc to the oilfield. A coworker's brother got a job driving a water truck and was pulling in a grand a week with overtime pay. Not sure what kind of money you are looking for but that seems like good starting pay. I'm sure some of the other guys here can give some valuable input. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test you will probably be hired on the spot. All day long there are radio ads from local companies looking to hire drivers here.

Btw, a random google search for landman info led me to this forum about a month ago. I had purchased bang earlier this year and got lazy after a few chapters. Discovering this forum and finishing Roosh's books has cleared the fog from my brain and given me a focus and desire for life and women that was never fully realized before now. Thanks to whoever started this thread.

Post: #139

Landman is definitely a job that someone with a shitty degree could get into. I know a few people making good money with a non-technical degree working for a land company.

Post: #140

Any jobs hiring in Texas?

Post: #141

There are, but I would imagine with the way oil prices are you would have to have experience. And look for service companies and completion/production companies. Drilling has already slowed considerably. My company laid off all of our temps and have already taken 21 hours a week of pay away from us. ( although I'm sure they are still charging for it and keeping the money themselves)

Post: #142

^^you work more hours than you're paid for??

Post: #143

Not technically. I get paid 24hrs a day for being on location while working a 12 hour shift. So you could argue it I'm not getting paid for 21 hours of off shift time.