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Starting my new side gig bouncing at a club downtown tonight, excited to see how this goes. Hopefully I get some numbers.

Way too much preworkout, feel nauseaus and headed to a date.

I might have a dtf regular come to my house later tonight with her friend, hoping i can convince a 3some my dtf said shes open to it.

Saw a girl sitting by herself, mindlessly doing some hw, and she was cute. I sit next to her within a distance for just a second, and there was a guy who sat right next to her and was itching to approach, but kept being a pussy, fidgetting and pretending to talk on the phone.

I laugh to myself and think "What and learn, motherfucker"

I get up, ask her something and she just began talking, making the approach a success (I got her number and she seems down)
The kid comes back, "ready" to approach, but finds me with her and looks at me with hatred in his eyes

It's a jungle out there, every men for himself.

I'm solidifying my routine. Here it is:

I go out with the girl to a quick and easy place. Frozen yogurt, coffee, night market, whatever. Do the boring conversation stuff, where did you go to school, what do you do now, etc. etc. Women establish trust this way. RULE: You may be able to talk about mundane, boring stuff, but don't actually be boring yourself. This doesn't mean be a shuckin' and jivin' clown. But be magnetic, charismatic.

Then I change venues, as per the Roosh school of thought. I stick out my hand or arm and look them in the eye, playfully. They know to grab. We walk hand-in-hand to the next location. Maybe not all the way, but enough so that the next time I want to grab her hand, I can do it freely. RULE: Find a venue that's close to the one you just left. meaning, don't start you're night in Queens then venue change to the Bronx. That's crazy.

Now we're in the new venue. Drink a tiny bit, talk about whatever for a tiny bit. Get comfortable with each other. I'm not sitting across from them anymore, but next to them. A table at the bar with stools is your best friend right now. I start playfully touching. Holding hands for a tiny bit. Making sure the girl is responsive and touching back in whatever way she feels comfortable with.

Then I go into my signature move, which has not failed me once in the last two years: GAMES. Suggest that you play a game. Whether you're at a bar that serves Jenga or darts or whatever, just play something. If you have no game at your disposal, play the rock, paper, scissors variation (too hard to explain here but look online. It's what I did last time and worked beautifully). But don't just play the game without stakes. That's boring. What I've been saying recently is, "Winner gets to ask the loser any question they want, and loser has to answer." Last time I did this, I lost at the game, and the girl, after "thinking" about a question for some time, asked me when is the last time I had sex. Beautiful. She initiates escalating to that next level. I didn't even have to do it. The time before that, I lost at darts (I think losing on purpose is probably the best tactic in this situation). I told the girl, "I'm going to the bathroom. Go ahead and think of your question and ask me when I come back." When I got back, she asked if I wanted to kiss her. Again, she did the overt escalating. Of course, when you really assess what's going on, you are the one escalating, what with the holding hands, the venue changing, the flirting, etc. It's after she feels comfortable and attracted to you (and a little tipsy) that she feels comfortable asking such a direct and personal question to you.

So for instance, last time I went out with the girl, she asked me when is the last time I had sex. I gave her my answer. I know sex is on her mind now. We played the RPS variation again. This time I won. I asked her if she thinks we'll kiss tonight. She laughed and said she doesn't know. We played one more time. She won. She asked if I want to kiss her. I lied and said, "I can't hear you. Music's too loud. Let's go outside for a second." We went outside and I told her to repeat her question. Again she asked if I want to kiss her. This time I grab her head and bring her in for the real thing.

In short, it's all about games with stakes! Questions after a little drinking seem to work best, at least for me.

I'm pipelining for Dallas, Texas, this weekend and so I tried something new on Plenty of Fish. I changed all 8 of my profile pictures to pictures of me with women I spent time with (7+s). I sent out 20 some odd messages and got 0 responses which I did not expect at all since DFW girls are friendly online and in person. It's been up for about 24 hours now. Abort mission!

(09-25-2014 11:32 AM)RougeNoir Wrote:  I'm pipelining for Dallas, Texas, this weekend and so I tried something new on Plenty of Fish. I changed all 8 of my profile pictures to pictures of me with women I spent time with (7+s). I sent out 20 some odd messages and got 0 responses which I did not expect at all since DFW girls are friendly online and in person. It's been up for about 24 hours now. Abort mission!

I dig the strategy though, something I considered but haven't acted on. Used to have more pics when I first jumped on but now down to 3. When it comes to online shit, I'm minimalist. Less is more in my mind.

Try the Quickmatch feature though just to get some fresh eyes on your profile.

Had some solid results from doing that prior to my trip to Tampa this summer.

Dallas is on my radar. Definitely report back on your stay

(09-24-2014 10:26 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Way too much preworkout, feel nauseaus and headed to a date.

I might have a dtf regular come to my house later tonight with her friend, hoping i can convince a 3some my dtf said shes open to it.

Have I got a fucking great night for you !

Met up with this tinder HB 8, a bit taller than me blonde. Super cute cheerleader swimsuit model body, gotta knock her a -.5 point for a lack of tits.

We grab a drink at this beer connoisseur place, she grabs wine (i kind of grimace) usually its a sign of being princessy to me.

We bounce and she says she's hungry, I counter telling her that alcohol is liquid nutrition with a smirk, she wasn't having it.

There is nothing really open, we walk to this pub, she gets an appetizer food and a glass of wine, I get a beer.

I literally thought I lost my frame and blew this date.

I'm letting her drone on about whatever she was talking, one thing caught my attention, she was never on her phone and told me she read ALOT.

I nodded and laughed at a few things, we ended talking about shitty the public education system is and how much better private schools are.

Waiter comes and drops the check, I don't pull out my wallet, a few seconds later, she pulls out her wallet and pays.

At this point I realize I might have my frame back and immediately bounce us to an irish pub/dive bar. I talk her up about kicking her ass at pool, she grabs another glass of wine I grab a beer.

We play a game of pool some girls in the corner were checking us out and totally judging her, a few songs came on during the game that I knew and I was semi flirting with the girls singing it and they were eating it up. (SMV went up for sure).

My tinder date got a little looser and fun, started dancing a bit. I scratch the 8 ball, she sinks the cball when she breaks. We're laughing at our fuck ups, eventually I beat her and tease I'm taking it easy on her.

We bounce to her car, say our goodbyes I go straight in for the kiss. She expected it because she moved straight in also.

I could tell she liked the way i was kissing her, she got closer to me, sighed, used tongue, I also grabbed back of her head (grabbed hair) and ended the kiss nice and slow. I coolly said "drive safe" and walked away without looking back.

I head back home....this is where my night GET'S BETTER.

This story is the beginning of my first legit solid threesome, confirmed with pics.

Click to read my threesome story after this date.

(09-25-2014 01:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I could tell she liked the way i was kissing her, she got closer to me, sighed, used tongue, I also grabbed back of her head (grabbed hair) and ended the kiss nice and slow. I coolly said "drive safe" and walked away without looking back.

Great work. The question I was left with was whether or not she blew up your phone afterwards? I would think the ending would've left her surprised you ended it right there, and her wanting more.

(09-25-2014 03:09 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 01:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I could tell she liked the way i was kissing her, she got closer to me, sighed, used tongue, I also grabbed back of her head (grabbed hair) and ended the kiss nice and slow. I coolly said "drive safe" and walked away without looking back.

Great work. The question I was left with was whether or not she blew up your phone afterwards? I would think the ending would've left her surprised you ended it right there, and her wanting more.

That's where I'm stuck at, she never said good night, hasn't text me since, and I'm not sure how to follow up. My guess is she wants to be chased and for me to hit her up next week or maybe this weekend.

What do you think ? at least a few days waiting then hit her up like usual ?

(09-25-2014 03:18 PM)kaotic Wrote:  That's where I'm stuck at, she never said good night, hasn't text me since, and I'm not sure how to follow up. My guess is she wants to be chased and for me to hit her up next week or maybe this weekend.

What do you think ? at least a few days waiting then hit her up like usual ?

She was into you, she's attractive (has lots of options), I see no reason to not hit her up in max 2 days and make plans so you can continue the escalation.

(09-25-2014 03:18 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 03:09 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 01:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I could tell she liked the way i was kissing her, she got closer to me, sighed, used tongue, I also grabbed back of her head (grabbed hair) and ended the kiss nice and slow. I coolly said "drive safe" and walked away without looking back.

Great work. The question I was left with was whether or not she blew up your phone afterwards? I would think the ending would've left her surprised you ended it right there, and her wanting more.

That's where I'm stuck at, she never said good night, hasn't text me since, and I'm not sure how to follow up. My guess is she wants to be chased and for me to hit her up next week or maybe this weekend.

What do you think ? at least a few days waiting then hit her up like usual ?

Since it's already Thu, I would not hit her up Fri/Sat. Maybe Sun afternoon and get her that day or plan another Wed nite out.

I never hit up girls Fri or Sat unless I'm banging them. Or used to!

(09-25-2014 05:05 PM)horn Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 03:18 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 03:09 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 01:11 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I could tell she liked the way i was kissing her, she got closer to me, sighed, used tongue, I also grabbed back of her head (grabbed hair) and ended the kiss nice and slow. I coolly said "drive safe" and walked away without looking back.

Great work. The question I was left with was whether or not she blew up your phone afterwards? I would think the ending would've left her surprised you ended it right there, and her wanting more.

That's where I'm stuck at, she never said good night, hasn't text me since, and I'm not sure how to follow up. My guess is she wants to be chased and for me to hit her up next week or maybe this weekend.

What do you think ? at least a few days waiting then hit her up like usual ?

Since it's already Thu, I would not hit her up Fri/Sat. Maybe Sun afternoon and get her that day or plan another Wed nite out.

I never hit up girls Fri or Sat unless I'm banging them. Or used to!

I agree. Unless you have banged the girl I find that you are more likely to get flaked on a Friday or Saturday. I have noticed that the two days when I most often take girls out for the first time are Sunday/Thursday.

(09-01-2014 06:03 PM)keysersoze Wrote:  Anyways, girl one is pleading with me to walk her home to her dorm way across campus, so it was a certain bang. I kissed her and said I was staying at the party. I was determined to fuck the 9. Consequently, my friend and I went to the apartment where his girl and her friend were, drank, and talked a bit. His girl was fucking grotesque when the conversation steered sexually. She was down for a foursome right then and there but she was about a 5 and chubby and I said no way. She spoke of sex like a man and even went into detail about her dildo collection. At least she gave me free beer.

I ended up walking my girl home and she invited me up to "sit on her porch and talk". We did and I eventually made out with her but she was giving a little resistance and I took it the wrong way and stopped (only to hear later that she's an absolute freak and loves being dominated). She tightly tied into my social circle so I'll see her more and advance on this.

Finally banged the 9 from that night this past weekend, four weeks later. Persistence and demonstrating value for a few weeks paid off. She literally pounced on when I got her back to my apartment Saturday night.

Pretty satisfying looking back at this post after getting the job done.

Fellas..

This girl cut her hair short.

She's cute and a native spanish speaker which is a big plus for me to practice. Her hair before was halfway down her back now it's just at the collarbones.

I was interested in building something with this chick, we've been out twice but I haven't escalated much I've been nonchalant about it. I've lost some motivation to keep going and now there's no way she'd be a prospect to hold on to after a possible bang, it was different before.

Problem is she is very keen on hanging out with me as I set tentative plans for the weekend and she keeps asking what's up. At worst I could just go for the bang. She's a chill girl but it disapointed me. She said she regretted it immediately after but no worries because 'it grows back.'

I'm just thinking out loud here, it's been a while since I posted here. Too bad I'm not working other options at the moment due to school commitments and taking a break from meeting new girls in general.

I don't know. If she is regretful about it and views it as something she got talked into by being promised sweet rewards ("you'll look heavenly!!!" in a moment of weakness, rather than a political statement ("I wanted to show that my body is just my own to those chauvinist pigs!", I'd be inclined to forgive her and stay with her.

Assuming she kept behaving sweet with no drama while the hair grew back.

18 year old poon makes the world go 'round.

Eyyy

She fucked that guy and told you about it solely for the purpose of getting revenge

It's a common girl ploy

(09-26-2014 01:31 PM)Crownife Wrote:  Met up with my ex to catch up. We had some to drink and she spilled the beans about hooking up with one of my old co workers. I'll be honest, it fucking hurt. More because I thought the guy was a friend and she made the decision to drive to his house and bang sober. Its been a month since I broke up with her and she told me it happened within the first 10 days. If it matters, she said she did it for validation, and to get back up on her feet.

Pretty much just venting here. I've been out on dates with multiple girls since her had my fair share of fun.

Why did you meet your ex to "catch up"? MrXY is right on the money. Do not meet her again to catch up.

Oioioi

Fuck that shit man never talk to her ass again.

You shouldn't have even given her the satisfaction.

(09-26-2014 01:31 PM)Crownife Wrote:  Met up with my ex to catch up. We had some to drink and she spilled the beans about hooking up with one of my old co workers. I'll be honest, it fucking hurt. More because I thought the guy was a friend and she made the decision to drive to his house and bang sober. Its been a month since I broke up with her and she told me it happened within the first 10 days. If it matters, she said she did it for validation, and to get back up on her feet.

Pretty much just venting here. I've been out on dates with multiple girls since her had my fair share of fun.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-39626.html

(09-26-2014 02:05 PM)Crownife Wrote:  Went with my gut feeling on the meet up. We were both drunk and sharing our adventures.

Your gut feeling of what? Of wanting to see her again?

What possible outcome do you think there was which is positive for you in sharing your adventures? Loose lips sink ships.

(09-26-2014 04:03 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(09-26-2014 02:05 PM)Crownife Wrote:  Went with my gut feeling on the meet up. We were both drunk and sharing our adventures.

Your gut feeling of what? Of wanting to see her again?

What possible outcome do you think there was which is positive for you in sharing your adventures? Loose lips sink ships.

Yea, I did want to see her again.

Fuck if I know man. I'm only human, hell..I think it's better I know than not knowing.