Post: #26

You should convince her to have an abortion, paid by you. You must take her to the clinic, wait for the procedure to be sure, and then take her to her place in front of witnesses to prevent any false claim. Keep all papers as proof. It will always be cheaper to pay an abortion than to pay a lawyer or alimony.

If you can't convince her of the abortion, well...

Post: #27

oh wait, this is in the Philippines? Press for abortion or complete denial.

Post: #28

Your are in the Philipines, so you must absolutely take everything as a likely lie first.

First of all I would tell her that I don't see any future together with her and plan to leave soon (regardless whether true or not).

Second I would tell her that I want proof that she is pregnant at all and would like to do the pregnancy test under supervision together with her in the bathroom. Let her pee on the stick while you watch. Women can get false positives even online, so it is better you buy the test yourself.

Third - if test is positive, I would offer to pay for an abortion, since you are simply not wealthy enough to travel back and forth between a child of yours. Make it clear to her, that you will never live with her or marry her. Also bring home the point that she limits her marriage options severely when she has a child by another man. The only other reason why she would go ahead with this would be if you were rich - make it clear to her that you are not. Plus also stress the point that if the child is not yours, you will never speak to her again and she will never see you again. If she says it is a likelihood of 50% (probably less since she might have fucked others) then tell her that she truly must be sure about it, since you will be gone instantly after the DNA results are in.

Either way - regardless whether she agrees to everything, is really pregnant and does not want to go through an abortion, I would just leave for a while. Even when the child is born, you can do a DNA test.

If it is yours you can deal with it later on. I would not leave a child of mine alone, so I would take care of it as much as possible and spend time with her/him - in extreme case even bring the kid home to me. But I would not tell such a woman that before the child is born already. It is not the end of the world even if it happens - you always have opportunities to make more money and do fine - it might motivate you even to greater heights.

Anyway - good luck.

Post: #29

I think Fisto has got it down to a tee for you. Proceed following his advice.

Post: #30

Had almost exact same situation but in South America. I posted about it as well here on the forum and many gave good advice.

Anyway eventually the girl is still very pregnant and she still says its mine, but she has another german guy now who she will marry and live with outside the country (in order to replace me since I didnt stay around). Abortion was not an option and illegal here. I basically told her that I didnt want a child and that if she wants to keep it its her responsability, if not I can help her. She stated she didnt need any help and she kept it. Hopefully they will live a nice and happely ever after.

And to be honest, yeah try to cut the majority of comunication and push for abortion a bit. If it doesnt work, check to see if shes pregnant after some months. If that is the case, chances are you will never really know if it was true or not, which might give you some moral issues or doubt. In my philosophy though, a child is something both parents need to agree upon. This conflicts with what most people think in the world due to religious reasons and so forth, but hey if that is what they wish to believe, they should bear the consequences. Don't ruin your life over this.

Post: #31

(09-10-2014 10:51 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 09:16 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:52 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:49 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 05:42 AM)Enigma Wrote:  Yeah, I would definitely get a DNA test done.

But what do I do in the meantime? Talk to her, ignore her? Stay here, leave the country?

I didn't even plan on being here that long, so I'm tempted to just disappear. That way she doesn't see me as a viable option to pin the pregnancy on -- if that's her intention -- and I have leverage.

Then I can always come back later and get a paternity test, if necessary.

Or I could stay in contact and try to convince her to have an abortion.

In the meantime, scare the shit out of her. Pay a $300, get a family lawyer to send her a letter saying that the paternity is suspect and you would require a DNA test to establish paternity.

Bad advice, there's a 50/50 chance it could be his.

How do you know this?

It's either his or it isn't (50/50).

I'm all for burning bridges and toasting sloots, but there is a time and place for that. Best to play it safe until he has confirmed it isn't his than being a dick first and then paying for the consequences after.

It's not 50/50 if she's been fucking more than two guys.

Post: #32

(09-10-2014 04:52 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 10:51 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 09:16 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:52 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:49 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  In the meantime, scare the shit out of her. Pay a $300, get a family lawyer to send her a letter saying that the paternity is suspect and you would require a DNA test to establish paternity.

Bad advice, there's a 50/50 chance it could be his.

How do you know this?

It's either his or it isn't (50/50).

I'm all for burning bridges and toasting sloots, but there is a time and place for that. Best to play it safe until he has confirmed it isn't his than being a dick first and then paying for the consequences after.

It's not 50/50 if she's been fucking more than two guys.

Yes it is....it's 50% chance it's his or 50% it's some OTHER man's.

Post: #33

(09-10-2014 05:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 04:52 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 10:51 AM)frenchie Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 09:16 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 08:52 AM)frenchie Wrote:  Bad advice, there's a 50/50 chance it could be his.

How do you know this?

It's either his or it isn't (50/50).

I'm all for burning bridges and toasting sloots, but there is a time and place for that. Best to play it safe until he has confirmed it isn't his than being a dick first and then paying for the consequences after.

It's not 50/50 if she's been fucking more than two guys.

Yes it is....it's 50% chance it's his or 50% it's some OTHER man's.

Where do you guys get your stats from?

It's NOT 50:50 if it's just him and another guy.
It's also NOT 50:50 if it's him and more than one other guy.

A state of not knowing between two possible options does not imply a 50% chance. That would only be true if the two options were equally likely, which in this case there is no reason to assume. Likewise a state of not knowing between 3 or more possible options does not imply an equal split in probability.

Post: #34

A first-trimester abortion doesn't cost $1000. Since it's still relatively early, you may want to suggest the following: https://www.womenonweb.org/en/i-need-an-abortion

You may also want to turn the tables on her (although this is particularly evil): "I kept something secret from you earlier because I didn't want you feel like a slut... I had a vasectomy years ago after I learnt that my children would be born with a genetic defect."

Post: #35

(09-11-2014 01:37 AM)DaveR Wrote:  A first-trimester abortion doesn't cost $1000. Since it's still relatively early, you may want to suggest the following: https://www.womenonweb.org/en/i-need-an-abortion

You may also want to turn the tables on her (although this is particularly evil): "I kept something secret from you earlier because I didn't want you feel like a slut... I had a vasectomy years ago after I learnt that my children would be born with a genetic defect."

Well, the $1,000 was just a rough estimate of flying the both of us to Cambodia, etc. where it's legal. Airfare from Davao is not cheap these days.

That site is definitely a hell of a resource though. I'd be cutting it pretty close though, since she would have to be at least 7 weeks pregnant if it's mine. But after thinking it over and reading the forum's feedback, I'm fairly certain she's bullshitting.

I told her that I had low sperm count at the time, which is actually partially true.

It's interesting because she was actually being swayed that I'm not the father, which further reinforces that she's probably full of it or there's another guy in the picture.

Post: #36

So I haven't heard back from this chick since I posted the thread.

I'm guessing those doctor's results are just taking longer than expected

What's really funny though is I had been sporadically messaging this other chick for months and months. I text her today out of the blue and turns out she's "pregnant" girl's twin.

She knows we banged (even asked how it was haha) and claims her sister says I have a bunch of girls but I really don't think she has any clue about her being two months "pregnant" with my unborn child

Now I was trying to weasel my way into her pants and I think I can, but she has a boyfriend so she claims she doesn't want to meet "for sex". But she asked if she could sleep in the bed with me the one night she's in town.

I'm slightly paranoid that it's some kind of setup but I can't really think what, other than robbing me which I'm way to cautious already for that to happen. The "pregnant" twin already knows where I live anyways.

So, do I try to get the bang? I mostly want to do it because I don't believe I've ever fucked two sisters before and definitely not twins.

Also, I'm trying to think of some way to spite the "pregnant" girl. Maybe blast some cum on her sister's face and take a pic to send her. That might be too much though. I'm guessing her sister will tell her anyways

Or am I just playing with fire continuing to mess with this conniving pair of province girls?

Post: #37

Enigma,

Don't fuck with this. Maybe your ego is telling you that you can handle any chaos/problems.

But don't.

There is other vagina.

If you want a great story to tell and you think this is it, then you are being controlled by what others think. How cool or amazed other people are by your exploits. How close you got to danger.

Don't be spiteful at the pregnant girl, trying to get back at her shows she is in control.

Control your frame.

If anything think of it as a test of your emotional control. Paddington and I were discussing this the other night. Many, many, many people have poor emotional control. They are just reaction machines, give them a little stimulus and they react no thought at all. I am not saying this is you at all, please don't hear that. Just saying if you can't frame the challenge by staying away from crazy, then try to frame it as a test of willpower. If you can't then maybe that phrase birds of a feather flock together applies.

I would normally write a much politer post, but sort of in a hurry. Just trying to help.

Post: #38

I actually just want to fuck this girl because of the sister/twins dynamic and I think she's a freak. I've actually been talking to her for months before I even met her sister.

The spiting the other girl thing was just an afterthought, which is why I mentioned it may be too much. That's not really my style anyways.

The chick is obviously not actually pregnant at this point, and I don't see any particular reason she'd get upset about me plowing her sister.

Post: #39

^^ Then why ask for any advice if you already knew what you were going to do?

Just a question for thought, not trying to be a dick. After all, we are in the same clan

Post: #40

(09-10-2014 04:37 AM)Enigma Wrote:  She hits me up today because they broke up and he told her he had a vasectomy.

"Oh shit babe. Me too"

since that ship has sailed. get a paternity test. do not back down on this demand. the results could change your life (hopefully for the better).

I mean, just think about the world today had John (ya know, the Virgin Mary's husband), had got one.

Post: #41

(09-23-2014 10:28 AM)Enigma Wrote:  She knows we banged (even asked how it was haha) and claims her sister says I have a bunch of girls but I really don't think she has any clue about her being two months "pregnant" with my unborn child

Maybe she's just "kopregnant", kind of pregnant in her own mind.

Someone please invent a kopregnancy test kit so we can weed out the condom-pricking crazies. "Sorry sugartits, but your EnigmaScreen scoring is way too high"

Post: #42

(09-23-2014 11:30 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  ^^ Then why ask for any advice if you already knew what you were going to do?

Just a question for thought, not trying to be a dick. After all, we are in the same clan

Well, I've been wanting to update this thread for a few days but didn't want to jinx it. I feel if you ask for advice, you should let guys know how it turned out.

And after this development, I couldn't help it.

The revenge thing was just something I threw in for laughs.

I'm really just unsure about the chick staying the night. Pretty safe here and I don't have any reason in particular to be worried.

I'm just very paranoid about someone cutting my dick off, ya know? Can't I be concerned about the safety of my johnson, Sam? Is that too much to ask?

Post: #43

Okay so I'm definately in agreement chicks can be shady. By all means make sure she really is pregnant, make sure it really is your kid if there is a kid, those are too very big if's especially if she was with this other guy and the rest of the story/background you got is accurate.

That said you make mention of I probably won't be here, you don't think she knows your name or whatever. Just my two cents but honestly if you fucked up and didn't wanna wear a rubber and it is your problem own up to it and do the right thing. Just seems kinda shady to run off and hope she doesn't find you. Your the one that has to look yourself in teh mirror and maybe it doesn't botehr you today but may some day. Plus, I bet if she really wanted to she could track you down if she knows your phone number courts could supoena phone records, could talk to your landlord, etc your probably not as invisible as you think.

Personally I'm not a fan of shmashmorshins, however if you don't have an objection to it, if you stick around and face this and it is your kid though ultimately you have no say she you may be able to sway her and have some imput. If you run its all in her hands.

Post: #44

(09-23-2014 01:43 PM)Enigma Wrote:  I'm just very paranoid about someone cutting my dick off, ya know? Can't I be concerned about the safety of my johnson, Sam? Is that too much to ask?

Then don't!

Some guys may encourage you to do so because it is no skin off their back. I generally try to wish people the best and offer practical advice.

Just be safe, I wish you well.

Post: #45

(09-10-2014 05:54 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  There's no way of you knowing whether it's your kid or not at this point. If it's not the 50 year old geezer's then how do you know it's not some other unknown party she got banged out by? There's just too much uncertainty. You could always come back for a paternity test. Paying for an abortion could cover your bases but if it's not your kid anyways then it's a waste of time and money. Another possibility is that she could also be lying about everything to keep you around.

Easy there, kiddo, one day you'll be a 50 year old "geezer." When you get there, hopefully you'll be banging twenty-somethings, as well as the unlimited assortment of forty-somethings, in your new role as an Alpha Agent of Righteous Karma. But agreed, who knows whose kid this is? Carry on young man.

Post: #46

Get DNA test, if its yours take care of it like a MAN is supposed to. You are the one who fucked up here, maybe you should make some better choices with your life and stop banging easy women.

If she's not pregnant, don't ever speak/touch her again.

You run off now and you're no better than Winston Wu when he ran off on Angelo. Look at this from the kid's perspective: he's going to grow up without a father that could take responsibility and follow in your scumbag footsteps. This is how America is in the state it is, you think single mother's happen by mistake? Guys like you make shitty decisions with even shittier women and who suffers for it? The kid. I'm curious as to how many of you are the children of single mothers. My Mother and Father would beat my ass if they thought I got a girl pregnant and left her.

God bless I had a father that was in the same situation and stuck around or I wouldn't be here today.

Quote:She hits me up today because they broke up and he told her he had a vasectomy. He's in his 50's tard so it's possible, but she talked like they had been trying to have a baby for the last year and he never said anything. Also, some vasectomies fail. I partially think he found out she fucked someone else and used the vasectomy excuse to break up with her/spite her.

You guys can't be this desperate...

My question to you is, why would you even consider going out with a girl like this? Would you date the same girl in America? Why even travel if you are just going abroad to bang hoes, you can get them 10 steps from any university campus in the USA.

Post: #47

(09-23-2014 10:28 AM)Enigma Wrote:  So I haven't heard back from this chick since I posted the thread.

I'm guessing those doctor's results are just taking longer than expected

What's really funny though is I had been sporadically messaging this other chick for months and months. I text her today out of the blue and turns out she's "pregnant" girl's twin.

She knows we banged (even asked how it was haha) and claims her sister says I have a bunch of girls but I really don't think she has any clue about her being two months "pregnant" with my unborn child

Now I was trying to weasel my way into her pants and I think I can, but she has a boyfriend so she claims she doesn't want to meet "for sex". But she asked if she could sleep in the bed with me the one night she's in town.

I'm slightly paranoid that it's some kind of setup but I can't really think what, other than robbing me which I'm way to cautious already for that to happen. The "pregnant" twin already knows where I live anyways.

So, do I try to get the bang? I mostly want to do it because I don't believe I've ever fucked two sisters before and definitely not twins.

Also, I'm trying to think of some way to spite the "pregnant" girl. Maybe blast some cum on her sister's face and take a pic to send her. That might be too much though. I'm guessing her sister will tell her anyways

Or am I just playing with fire continuing to mess with this conniving pair of province girls?

Are you absolutely sure that this is indeed a twin and not just the same girl??

Post: #48

(09-24-2014 04:30 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  You guys can't be this desperate...

My question to you is, why would you even consider going out with a girl like this? Would you date the same girl in America? Why even travel if you are just going abroad to bang hoes, you can get them 10 steps from any university campus in the USA.

Yes, we should all live in a country we hate so we can dress up as video game characters with our wife.

Thanks for giving your typical embittered opinion. Feel free to run along and sword fight with your friends now.

Post: #49

(09-24-2014 04:48 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  Are you absolutely sure that this is indeed a twin and not just the same girl??

They're not identical. I was actually talking to this second girl way before I ever met her sister, she just always had this boyfriend in the picture. And I recall when I first started texting her she mentioned having a twin, I just obviously never put two and two together since it's a big city and they don't look particularly alike. I don't see what purpose it would serve to pose as two separate girls for like 6 months.

For the record, I'm not going to bother with the twin though. Too much drama. Just going to cut ties with the whole situation and distance myself as far as possible.

Post: #50

(09-10-2014 09:33 AM)Fisto Wrote:  Let's back up a step here.

How sure are you that you and this other guy are the only ones banging her?

I've had these girls try this crap from time to time and lo and behold, months later they say "I lost the baby".

It's a power play. Especially if she's not mentioning money. She wants you to replace the 50 year old boyfriend.

She wants an emotional response and to gauge your responses.

First you tell her that if she's pregnant and it's yours, you are not going to be in this baby's life at all (doesn't matter if you're bluffing).

Tell her this is her decision and you want no part of it and to have a nice life.

Block her on one of the mediums you're talking to her on.

When she shows up on another one tell her "I told you I want no part of this. I don't believe you, and I don't want your bullshit drama".

Then block her on that one. (this will hasten the "I lost the baby" story as she will still want to talk to you and will invent this part of the story so you guys can go back to "normal")

Look at her instagram or her fb in a month or two. If she's actually pregnant she will be posting photos that hint about that. Filipinas love that kind of attention. She'll also fake it though by buying clothes and posting photos of that shit.

I seriously doubt her claims. It's not that easy to get pregnant, even when they are "fertile".

Anyway, if she actually is pregnant keep tabs on all this from afar. Decide if you want to be in the kids life or not.

Have the DNA test done.

Go from there.

Shit, i can't believe this.

This girl recently told me that she is pregnant and I told her that i don't want a baby right now and she should know about it because we have spoken about this before. She was like ''don't worry, I will take care of it'', I was like ''ok cool, delete my number''. I haven't spoken to her since (it's been 2 weeks now).

My close friends are telling me to send another chick to check if she is really pregnant (I am not in her country at the moment), I am like fuck this, I am waiting 3 to 4 months and then I will check if she uploads any picture on her facebook saying that she is pregnant (she doesn't have my facebook).

I just read your advice, I guess I am on the right track, no need for a new thread haha.

p.s. the downside of this is that if she is really pregnant, it becomes too late for an abortion by the time you are sure that she is really pregnant but I am assuming that she is playing games.