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SydneyD · 2014-09-11 15:37:00 · #3501
I'm depressed
When i first arrived at college last week i saw a girl in class who i thought at the time was the hottest girl i had ever seen.
Fastforward to today and i've downgraded her to a 7.5
It's so sad how familiarity wipes away the lustre of a woman.
This is why I can't imagine myself settling down with a woman: today she might look like Beyonce but, who knows, tomorrow she might look like something that came out of Whoopi Goldberg's ass

horn · 2014-09-11 17:49:00 · #3502
I would say, instead, that's how you identify the 10s. Pick a rando VS model who is 18-20. See how she looks at 28-29. Not a 7.5 I guarantee you that.
Alessandra Ambrosio is 33 ffs.
Heidi Klum looks amazing at 41. You're basically talking about a minimum of 20-25 years if you get a girl who is truly a 9.5-10.
Of course they were hotter at 19-21, not arguing that!
Holy shit just went to the Sorbonne to do my Master registration. On passing the rows for the freshman I thought I was at a fucking fashion show. Glancing at their registration papers and eavedropping on the conversation I saw Romania, Bolivia, Columbia, Korea, Poland etc. Its like the world's miss talents are flocking here.
Noticed that "parisian" girls are getting even sluttier in clothes than new jersey, though there are still more short skirts than cropped jeans or hot pants. Im cool with that.
No homo, but the guys dress pretty damn well with some really cool hairstyle.
Guys someone really need to go to Paris to sarge with me.
(thinking about doing another degree)
heavy · 2014-09-12 11:12:00 · #3504
This is ticky tacky, but something I actually analyzed as it was happening. At the bar, me on the corner, wing on corner, I'm sitting wrong side of two girls a 5 and a 7. The 7 and I are talking a lot with eyes, then I open from my distant position. She knows I know she knows I know what I want. I'm interested and know what I want. Wing does a great job with the 5. Layout below:
..B]7
..A]5
_R]wing
Me
Option 1: Talk (yell) over wing and 5
Option 2: Go between the 5 and 7
Option 3: Go between 7 and some dude on the other side
Option 4: Say you can't hear her, then tell her to cum over

Option 5: Say you can't hear her and offer to go to the back alley for a tasty morsel of your White Cheddar Johnsonville Brat
As we know, scenarios such as the above are minute details and may not, dare I say probably will not, make a difference whether you get the # or bang. However, these slight twists and turns might make a difference, and what you do damn well offers situational insight as to the size of your unabashed alpha cock.
What I did? I'm ashamed, but I opted for #1. Later I attempted the close unsuccessfully.

^ This is something I believe Goldmund mentioned somewhere, if your eyes have talked for a few secs and it was positive, you motion her to come to you.
That would be the alpha thing to do here I think.
There is also this scene from the movie Vicky Cristina Barcelona, where Javier Bardem walks over and invites the chicks to Oveido. A bit different for you because you were already sitting next to them, but the moment you had that eye contact you should have pulled this move or the above.
The longer you wait after that flirty eye contact, the less alpha it becomes.
Got a fun shit-test from a chick I was texting earlier tonight after I said something stupid:
"Oooh is the little boy mad?"
I responded without missing a beat: "Nah, but I sure as hell want a juice box now. Apple if you have it."
Bitch didn't have apple. What's a player to do? She apparently didn't have orange either.
"You're worse than Delta. Give me a vodka tonic."
Normal conversation proceeded from there.
(09-11-2014 03:37 PM)SydneyD Wrote: I'm depressed
When i first arrived at college last week i saw a girl in class who i thought at the time was the hottest girl i had ever seen.
Fastforward to today and i've downgraded her to a 7.5
It's so sad how familiarity wipes away the lustre of a woman.
This is why I can't imagine myself settling down with a woman: today she might look like Beyonce but, who knows, tomorrow she might look like something that came out of Whoopi Goldberg's ass 
You're growing. I went through the same thing when I started out in college, around every corner was a new hottest girl I'd ever seen.
Fast forward a few years later and my standards have gone through the roof, rightfully so. I rarely see a new girl I can honestly call an 8 or 9. Most are 7s and below.
Eventually your standards will adjust and you will be better off. You will develop a genuine appreciation for true 8s and 9s, and you will develop a complete disregard for 7s and below.
Don't be depressed, you are maturing as a man.
Part of being a player is developing a palate for women like you would for wine. When you are young you haven't developed that palate yet, but as you grow and mature as a man that palate will grow and you'll be able to identify the nuances of women.
As expected, the girl I talked about in the previous page has entirely stopped replying to me.
I'm trying to figure out a way to salvage this but it is unlikely. Sigh. I've never felt so defeated in the game before.
Met blondie from the fair last week out at the bar tonight, she was already trashed, I was coming from a house party with a little glow on. Worked it for several hours, made out a bunch and hands all over, but couldn't pull her to my place and it was too cold to go for an outside bang near the venue. She met some guy from social circle the same day I approached her allegedly and ditched him to meet up with me but wound up going home with him I think. I scared the cat by commenting on her not shaving her legs for me and she said something to the effect of,"Wait, when you asked if I was going out tonight you thought I'd be going home with you so it would matter?" Uh, yeah! This after she was groping my dick 5 minutes earlier.
Other highlights, before blondie arrived a little chub WB 22yo who was getting married next week was out with a group of bridesmaids whoring it up, pulling guys to the dance floor and grinding all over them. Tried it with me when I was sitting and I pulled her into me and just sat there, she ground up against me for a while before stumbling off. Asked me how old I was, she guessed 25, I said 27, said she was marrying a 37yo next week and wanted someone young and fun, would I be fun? I said maybe... A banging body, bit of a butterface from FL approached me later outside while blondie was in the bathroom and commented on how well I handled that (she didn't hear the conversation). I got her number while blondie was blowing up my phone looking for me - learned from the regret I felt last time not closing some gorgeous coed because I was on a "date" and didn't want her to see. Sent a text an hour or so later but she saw me leaving for another bar with trashed blondie, no return text tonight, possibly ever.
Made out with the owner of the second/last bar I went to, that's a first for me. Fairly attractive tatted up mid-late 30s brunette, sitting just around the corner on the customer side of the bar - blondie told me it was the owner before she ditched. Her friend was bitching at the bartender for spraying windex near their drinks, I said "That shit's like 80 proof, usually they charge extra for it". Some back and forth chit chat, they asked what I was doing here, gave them an abridged version of the fair meetup. Owner says,"You met her at the fair? That's really weird", I argued against this of course. Their taxi was waiting and they got up
Friend - "Where are you from?"
G- xxx
F -But you have all your teeth
G - Actually this one's fake, a dog knocked it out (true)
Owner - What kind of dog?
G - Pitbull - bull mastiff cross
O - Wow I really want to make out with you right now
G - OK (opened mouth and leaned in halfway and pulled back)
O - No seriously (and goes in for it, 3 second makeout and walks off)
G - haha have a good night guys
I was laughing and walked past the bartender on my way to the bathroom and said,"That's your boss, huh? He laughs,"Yep, that's my boss." What can I say, I hang out in some classy towns. No bang this weekend but I have a (non-sarcastically) classy DTF Tinderella lined up in another state for my work this coming week. Blue balls but good times anyway.
So I met the last girl off Okcupid yesterday (a French girl from France but raised in Quebec) before leaving for Lille for a year.
I messaged her 2 months ago she a was bi-sexual but openly claiming she was a lesbian and throwing shit tests at me. We started talking about what we like about women and got the conversation sexual. She claim she is an alpha woman whatever that means. The convo died when I left traveling for 2 weeks.
She reopened me last week and we got super flirty and everything, it took a lot of conversation and texting, I learned that she was mean to me because she was actually dating a lesbian girl at the time but she really liked my approach and everything and now that she's free she reopened and wanted to meet. I managed to meet her yesterday at a very shitty bar in her suburban area (I drove there). There, once she took off her glasses I saw some of the most beautiful eyes I've seen on a girl and magnificent boobs. She is a 6.5 in term of body just because she's a little curvy but definately bangable and beautiful face. Anyway at the bar I was very impressed cause she could switch to english, to french and to quebec french at ease and she was a very sexual and flirty girl.
We kissed at the bar and made out for a long time. I then went to my car with her and wanted to build up attraction, it worked well, she was sexually active from every part of her body. Touching her boobs made her shake, kissing and biting her ears made her moan loudly, even her ass was sensible. She said she melted from smelling my perfume/cologne. Anyway because of terrible logistics (she lived far away from Montreal, with her parents (dad which look like a crazy mofo), I didn't have a place because I stayed with my parents before leaving for France (I could have gotten back there but it was far and she didn't want)...I tried everything to have sex with her in the car, she even let me finger her very wet pussy and gave me an handjob but she wouldn't give me a blowjob or let me penetrate her because she didn't want to do it in the car (it wasn't very comfy to be honest)... She has handcuffs at home, she loves doggy style, she has the longest tongue I've ever seen (and she said she pleased her two last girlfriends with it very well) and I can tell from how she licked my fingers that she can also deepthroat. She said she loved my frame and wanted an alpha man and not a boy and that's what got her interested (game from Rooshv forum definately helped but I didn't think she would believe it)
Logistics killed me but it's because I don't have my place. We only had a drink at the bar but sexting and sensualising every conversation made her incredibly horny.
I remember when Soup wrote that once you get your shit together in term of finance, housing and social circle is when you start bedding women because you have nothing else to worry about than getting laid. Housing was the defactor here + all the preparation for the departure.
ANyway I brought her back home and she's texting me all the time and is sad that I'm leaving tomorrow because she really wants me and sees me as a boyfriend and incredible lover.
No sex but I'm fucking pumped and ready for France now!
(09-14-2014 03:55 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote: So I met the last girl off Okcupid yesterday (a French girl from France but raised in Quebec) before leaving for Lille for a year.
I messaged her 2 months ago she a was bi-sexual but openly claiming she was a lesbian and throwing shit tests at me. We started talking about what we like about women and got the conversation sexual. She claim she is an alpha woman whatever that means. The convo died when I left traveling for 2 weeks.
She reopened me last week and we got super flirty and everything, it took a lot of conversation and texting, I learned that she was mean to me because she was actually dating a lesbian girl at the time but she really liked my approach and everything and now that she's free she reopened and wanted to meet. I managed to meet her yesterday at a very shitty bar in her suburban area (I drove there). There, once she took off her glasses I saw some of the most beautiful eyes I've seen on a girl and magnificent boobs. She is a 6.5 in term of body just because she's a little curvy but definately bangable and beautiful face. Anyway at the bar I was very impressed cause she could switch to english, to french and to quebec french at ease and she was a very sexual and flirty girl.
We kissed at the bar and made out for a long time. I then went to my car with her and wanted to build up attraction, it worked well, she was sexually active from every part of her body. Touching her boobs made her shake, kissing and biting her ears made her moan loudly, even her ass was sensible. She said she melted from smelling my perfume/cologne. Anyway because of terrible logistics (she lived far away from Montreal, with her parents (dad which look like a crazy mofo), I didn't have a place because I stayed with my parents before leaving for France (I could have gotten back there but it was far and she didn't want)...I tried everything to have sex with her in the car, she even let me finger her very wet pussy and gave me an handjob but she wouldn't give me a blowjob or let me penetrate her because she didn't want to do it in the car (it wasn't very comfy to be honest)... She has handcuffs at home, she loves doggy style, she has the longest tongue I've ever seen (and she said she pleased her two last girlfriends with it very well) and I can tell from how she licked my fingers that she can also deepthroat. She said she loved my frame and wanted an alpha man and not a boy and that's what got her interested (game from Rooshv forum definately helped but I didn't think she would believe it)
Logistics killed me but it's because I don't have my place. We only had a drink at the bar but sexting and sensualising every conversation made her incredibly horny.
ANyway I brought her back home and she's texting me all the time and is sad that I'm leaving tomorrow because she really wants me and sees me as a boyfriend and incredible lover.
No sex but I'm fucking pumped and ready for France now!
Awesome story man. Any chance you can see her like tonight before you bounce? Would love to hear what the close is like.
MrXY · 2014-09-14 16:17:00 · #3513
(09-14-2014 03:55 PM)MrRoundtree Wrote: We kissed at the bar and made out for a long time. I then went to my car with her and wanted to build up attraction, it worked well, she was sexually active from every part of her body. Touching her boobs made her shake, kissing and biting her ears made her moan loudly, even her ass was sensible. She said she melted from smelling my perfume/cologne. Anyway because of terrible logistics (she lived far away from Montreal, with her parents (dad which look like a crazy mofo), I didn't have a place because I stayed with my parents before leaving for France (I could have gotten back there but it was far and she didn't want)...I tried everything to have sex with her in the car, she even let me finger her very wet pussy and gave me an handjob but she wouldn't give me a blowjob or let me penetrate her because she didn't want to do it in the car (it wasn't very comfy to be honest)... She has handcuffs at home, she loves doggy style, she has the longest tongue I've ever seen (and she said she pleased her two last girlfriends with it very well) and I can tell from how she licked my fingers that she can also deepthroat. She said she loved my frame and wanted an alpha man and not a boy and that's what got her interested (game from Rooshv forum definately helped but I didn't think she would believe it)
Logistics killed me but it's because I don't have my place. We only had a drink at the bar but sexting and sensualising every conversation made her incredibly horny.
ANyway I brought her back home and she's texting me all the time and is sad that I'm leaving tomorrow because she really wants me and sees me as a boyfriend and incredible lover.
No sex but I'm fucking pumped and ready for France now!
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there was no motel around and I didnt know the village she lived in and anyway if she wasnt down to do it in the car or my parents place I doubt a motel would have worked because she didn't want first date sex...I get this shit test a lot but without a proper place of your own (or hers ) its hard to pull (she didn't drink)
She is 20
UPDATE: Message I just received ''J'ai rêver que je te donnais le meilleur blowjob de ta vie mais je me flatte peut-être trop l'égo dans mans tête, translates as: I dreamed that I gave you the best blowjob of your life but maybe I'm just trying to give myself an ego boost''
UPDATE 2: ''I am so fucking horny right now you don't even know =_= resisting the ideal man is a pain''
That's an ego-boost for me
Anyway I'm trying to see if she's a possbible prospect tonight
horn · 2014-09-14 17:23:00 · #3515
That's awesome, a girl last year basically dropped that 'I dreamed' line on me as well before we had had sex. Needless to say the close was right around the corner. Many girls will absolutely refuse a ONS.
MrXY · 2014-09-14 17:30:00 · #3516
Friday night met a girl off POF I banged on the first date. Banged her again at a hotel she paid for
Sat night went out with a regular; we got free concert tickets and she bought us Chinese food and booze and banged her at her house
I'm just doing my part to promote equality

This girl literally told me she never wanted to see me again because the date was so amazing she wanted to preserve the memory and was afraid she would fall in love with me.
The fuck do I say to that gentlemen.
She sounds like a loon.
Politely tell her it was your pleasure and put her on ice. She will probably get a stupefied look on her face after you leave/end the conversation. She will contact you in a less than a week and will be up for whatever you have in mind. I suggest anal and then blasting a load on her face. From there on out you own her.
Double booked tonight with a couple day game pulls
Should be epic
OR
Somebody's getting flaked on
I've got 3 dates setup. all college pickups.
2 live nearby, 1 is far as hell. don't really know how to plan these logistics. if all goes well, maybe I'll try and bang next week
horn · 2014-09-16 20:02:00 · #3521
(09-15-2014 10:12 PM)Valhalla Wrote: This girl literally told me she never wanted to see me again because the date was so amazing she wanted to preserve the memory and was afraid she would fall in love with me.
The fuck do I say to that gentlemen.
Nothing. Say nothing. I had a similar experience in NYC when a tourist girl I gamed and banged and brunch with said: I can't see you or talk to you again, if I do I will fall in love with you, I already have strong feelings for you, I'll go home, quit grad school and move to NY just to be close to you, I want to fuck you every morning before work and as soon as you get home at night. [Obviously I did not want her moving in!]
She was willing to move 2000 miles, and I don't think she was loonier than the normal grad school girl. I was just the perfect guy for her at that time. Maybe she was crazy, who knows?
I'm sure guys here have had experiences where the first date was great, sex was great, she had the spazzy eyes, and then she totally ghosted you. And you were thinking 'Best girl and date ever....'
(09-16-2014 07:15 AM)Manipulator Wrote: She sounds like a loon.
Politely tell her it was your pleasure and put her on ice. She will probably get a stupefied look on her face after you leave/end the conversation. She will contact you in a less than a week and will be up for whatever you have in mind. I suggest anal and then blasting a load on her face. From there on out you own her.
+1 to this, she's daring you to do the takeaway - do it. Trust us, she'll be back.
Went on a date today, girl was walking faster than me in the beginning.
Called her out on it, because fuck that.
Me: Stop walking so fast.
Her: This is how I usually walk.
Me: No guy wants to follow around a girl
Her: Oh really?
Me: Yea, we're chilling.
She stopped this charade for the rest of the the time.
What would you guys do in this situation?
(09-16-2014 10:25 PM)Crownife Wrote: Went on a date today, girl was walking faster than me in the beginning.
Called her out on it, because fuck that.
Me: Stop walking so fast.
Her: This is how I usually walk.
Me: No guy wants to follow around a girl
Her: Oh really?
Me: Yea, we're chilling.
She stopped this charade for the rest of the the time.
What would you guys do in this situation?
Probably would do about the same. It's all about frame - you are enjoying yourself walking slowly, shouldn't have to adjust to her walking faster.
polar · 2014-09-16 23:40:00 · #3525
I've been gaming hard the past few weeks, did a moderate day game push and an online burst as well. I had to cut back on my pipelining (good) because of the number of leads I got (good), but also because of having to deal with flakes and egos the size of a Michelin blimp despite the audience being mostly 5's and 6's (bad).
I've been struggling to wrap my head around just how hard it is to compete with 18-22 year old girls. I've started seeing it because my game-fu has reached a point where I can see through their excuses and act the same in imitation, but it's just a treatment, not a cure.
In order to be on equal footing with the average 6 or 7, 18-22 girl, you need to
1) be fucking at least one other girl on the side
2) have at least one date with a fresh girl scheduled within the next week
3) maintain emotional distance indefinitely until she caves
"A pimp is a really a whore who’s reversed the game on whores.” - Iceberg Slim
All of the head games they play - flaking, long response times when just watching Netflix at home, etc. - can't be beat by anything other than an abundance mentality, which (for me personally) requires constant time investment into number farming, etc.
The amount of shit thrown by a frumpy American 6 is unreal compared to foreign and non-ratchet black girls (the exotic factor might play a role in it - not many white guys will openly hit on a black girl).
Yes, this can be improved (never cured) through hard, long work on personal value and game (the value delivery system), but still...it's a challenge.
Does this ever get better or do the girls just get hotter?
#intermediategameproblems