Post: #76

(09-04-2014 02:57 AM)Beirut Wrote:  Honestly i've cut in front at the landing (or at least tried to unsuccessfully) a few times.

One time I had no carry-ons, had just finished a 22 hours flight from Beirut to the US (emirates never again), and had barely an hour or so to catch connecting flight. I rushed and managed to gain a few meters but theres always someone who stands up and takes forever to unload his suitcases in which case ill just stand and wait behind them like an idiot.

But usually im very laid back and prefer to let others pass

You don't get out faster though do you? There is always a couple of minutes delay when they connect the plane and everyone ends up standing in the isle looking stupid. I can understand why people do it though, but frequent travelers should know it doesn't matter. I still have to stand up though because I am afraid that someone will drop a bag on my head which actually happened once.

Post: #77

There have been a couple of articles recently regarding rows over people reclining their seats. Reclining seats should be banned from all flights as they make the passenger in the seat behind extremely uncomfortable, especially if they are eating. Add that to the fact that so many people are bad mannered and downright obnoxious and rude then trouble will certainly brew. I find having a seat pushed back onto your legs by some bad mannered fool who does not have the courtesy to ask you if its okay is very annoying and makes me extremely angry. I always seem to encounter the worst of these people when I fly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel...-week.html

A male passenger allegedly fastened a Knee Defender to his tray table to work on his laptop. The woman in the seat in front complained when she could not recline, tipping water on the man when he refused to remove the gadget.

Quote:United Flight 1462 from Newark, New Jersey to Denver was forced to make an emergency landing at O'Hare International Airport Sunday after a female passenger threw water at a man seated behind her who used a device known as Knee Defender to stop her from reclining her seat on the four-hour flight.

Another row happened between a man and a woman that reclined her seat:

Quote:According to his attorney, Janet Macnab, her client, who stands at over 6 feet in height, complained to the passenger in front of him that her reclined seat was hurting his knees, but the woman refused to move the seat up, and the flight crew did nothing to help.

‘He didn't touch anybody, he didn't assault anybody this was a situation where he had a right to complain,’ Macnab told WCVB.

Quote:Two undercover federal air marshals aboard the plane then subdued Alexandre and handcuffed him, the U.S. attorney's office said.

Sounds like a right bitch of a self-entitled woman with a stick up her ass. She tipped water on him and he's the one being blamed? No photo of her but plenty of him circulating in the news. And then he gets arrested by federal air marshals after he gets angry. It makes me sick. I used to never recline my seat out of respect and courtesy but now I take a stroll down the aisle and check if the person behind me has reclined their seat. If they haven't then I don't. But if they have then I feel it's only fair that they receive the same treatment.

Post: #78

I agree that reclining a seat is uncomfortable, but so is sitting upright for long flights. Common courtesy is to wait until people begin sleeping, then everyone can do it and offset some of the problems. Also don't go full recline, maybe a third, and do it slow.

Post: #79

(09-04-2014 08:53 AM)berserk Wrote:  I agree that reclining a seat is uncomfortable, but so is sitting upright for long flights. Common courtesy is to wait until people begin sleeping, then everyone can do it and offset some of the problems. Also don't go full recline, maybe a third, and do it slow.

That's the thing. People do not have any common courtesy anymore. At one time people used to ask the person behind them if it was a problem reclining their seat. Now the world is full of ill mannered slobs who couldn't care less about anyone's feelings.

I fly a lot and experience this from both men and women. However when I tell the person in front of me that they are making me uncomfortable as I am a tall person, I find that the majority of the time, the man is reasonable and understanding and pushes his seat forward. In my experience however women are the most rudest, bad mannered, unreasonable, selfish and inconsiderate people when it comes to this.

Post: #80

I've seen hostile and self-satisfied looks on the faces of women when they push the seat back to the max. It's a "fuck you" move.

Nothing you can do about it, though; it's what they and you paid for.

Again, 10 mg valium after bag check-in, 1 hr. before boarding.

Post: #81

(09-05-2014 05:11 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  I've seen hostile and self-satisfied looks on the faces of women when they push the seat back to the max. It's a "fuck you" move.

The same look you get when you try to merge into traffic on the highway and the woman in the SUV speeds up to keep you from merging in front of her.

Post: #82

(09-06-2014 02:27 AM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

(09-05-2014 05:11 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  I've seen hostile and self-satisfied looks on the faces of women when they push the seat back to the max. It's a "fuck you" move.

The same look you get when you try to merge into traffic on the highway and the woman in the SUV speeds up to keep you from merging in front of her.

Control issues

Post: #83

i think a big thing is time. summer usully bring the tourists who dont travel much or have kids with them that fucks everything up. when i fly in september and february after the big vacations, its a much easier to deal with crowd

Post: #84

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  I don't think I'm alone in noticing that the level of douchbaggery, hostility, and angst on airplanes is going up.

You are not. It's the worst on US Carriers.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * Flight attendants are either gay or rude bitches

These are the lawsuit-proof employees of modern American aviation travel. The first time I flew on a flight as a kid I can remember the hottie flight attendant and thought "Wow, it would be so cool to be a pilot!" But that was 1982. Now I see better looking bus drivers for crissakes.

I had one lesbian asshole roll her eyes when she saw the book I was reading (a Bill O'Reilly book - hey, it was a gift). This was in business class - she could at least demonstrate some professionalism, but I suppose when she's lawsuit proof why bother?

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * Too many screaming undisciplined kids

Not much you can do about bad parenting except try to stay away from the rear of the plane. People who do not travel much (like families with kids) often don't choose their seats and wind up back there by default.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I flew to Seoul next to a group of young Korean kids and thought it would be a flight from hell, but they turned out to have more discipline than your average US Marine. I soon found out this behavior was quite common in Korean families. We Americans could (re)learn a few things from them about child rearing.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * People who don't understand that "carry on bag" means a small bag

Airlines ought to either raise the prices and stop nickel and diming us or stop charging for checked bags and start charging for carry on bags. That shit would stop real quick.

Another tip here - if you're a regular flyer on a small regional jet, you probably get first boarding priority. Sounds great, but you and all the other business travelers with the same priority probably also chose seats near the front, and all of you board at the same time.

Small jet, small overhead space, bunch of people competing for the same tiny overhead space, even though the plane isn't even full yet. Pain in the ass, right?

Answer: choose a seat that's a few rows back (maybe number 10 or 12) and let the business traveler dickheads fight over their seats closest to the front. That way you board first and get access to seats not yet occupied but not so far to the rear of the plane that you're in obese tourist-land. Besides, the seats closest to the door often have no overhead at all, or overhead with some first aid kit, pilot bag, etc.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * People who dress like disheveled bums

Another sad, mostly American trend. Americans generally dress down too much anyway - a lot of silicon valley types with plenty of money don't even know how to tie a tie and think casual Friday means jeans and a t-shirt. I've seen executives on flights looking like they just walked out of a trailer park.

I don't overdo dressing for a flight but neither do I own a pair of sweat pants. And I refuse to wear shorts in public unless the situation requires shorts (running, beach, gym, etc). Once you're a male over 25 you should start to look and act like an adult no matter where you are.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * Fat people

No doubt - it violates the purchase you make for your seat to have to "share" a seat with a fattie that bleeds over to your side, but thankfully this hasn't happened to me yet.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * Chinese who talk too loud

Seen this on international flights; mostly from mainlanders. I've been mostly lucky here too - eventually they fall asleep.

(08-26-2014 09:43 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  * Indians who walk around in their socks

Never seen this, but I've heard horror stories about the bathrooms on any Indian carrier. Short answer is if you have to go, do it EARLY in your flight or you'll be too disgusted to walk in there.

Post: #85

(08-28-2014 12:51 PM)Dusty Wrote:  I'd probably be more chivalrous in another date or another time. But in our busted culture, I'm suppose to be subservient to busted up hags and single moms nursing from the gubmint teet, because I matter less. Fuck them.

They want equality, I'll give them fucking equality.

This is a predictable and significant development. It used to be "women and children first" but with the cultural confusion going on, equality at all costs, etc. your response is highly logical. Societal breakdown will get worse before it gets better.