Post: #1

I'm looking to have a serious conversation here. We all know African Americans and Hispanics have several negative stereotypes against them in the US.

As a African-American guy living in a 90% white area(NJ suburbs), I find girls are often hesitant to be seen out on dates with me. But those same girls will be hitting on me and trying to hook up at parties.

What are some ways to demonstrate value, and make them more comfortable.

Things I already try to have
-Am well dressed
-Drive a decent car
-Diverse social circle

What other things can help up your game

Post: #2

Starting a bunch of race-related threads at once will likely get you banned. Use the search feature, and good luck.

Post: #3

(08-12-2014 09:51 PM)HeavyInTheGame Wrote:  I'm looking to have a serious conversation here. We all know African Americans and Hispanics have several negative stereotypes against them in the US.

As a African-American guy living in a 90% white area(NJ suburbs), I find girls are often hesitant to be seen out on dates with me. But those same girls will be hitting on me and trying to hook up at parties.

What are some ways to demonstrate value, and make them more comfortable.

Things I already try to have
-Am well dressed
-Drive a decent car
-Diverse social circle

What other things can help up your game

Don't worry too much about "value" and focus more so the ones I put in bold. If you're black and not a professional athlete or entertainer or high level politician, then you have to focus on the white girls who show interest. Life isn't fair.

Post: #4

I don't even know what a minority is anymore technically speaking if we're talking shear numbers and I'm white.

There are some other threads on this. Be careful though as 0 reps+race threads = ban hammer (usually).

Post: #5

Pop goes the weasel

Post: #6

Nothing more annoying to me than black men who feel they have to qualify them to bag these "unattainable" white women. Like RougeNoir said, life isn't fair and people prefer their own races.

Post: #7

Black Guy here.
I mostly bang white girls. like 98 % (1.5% other .5% black).
Not that I don't see women of my race as beautiful (quite the contrary), they just aren't my preference.... they don't float my boat... not my thing... etc etc

Why do you have to prove anything.
What you wanna DO, is BE valuable:

• Travel - to explore your planet
• Have a goals and a purpose - be upwardly mobile
• Master self-amusement (thin line between this and being a twat but you are golden once you find the balance)
• Travel - to master self reliance
• Get a non-collector, non-video game hobby - to occupy your time, give you stuff to talk about and cultivate your passion
• READ - Don't know where to start? Try some Byron or Bukowski or Houellebecq and definitely some Vonnegut, he makes for some great philosophical edu-tainment (OR checkout ROK & Roosh's blog he lists TONS of great books)
• Learn to play an instrument
• Travel - to experience new viewpoints, peoples and ways of life
• Master a new language to the point where you can enjoy its literature
• Train your body/ learn a martial art
• ...did I mention Travel?
  

find, your angle (that personality / style that you are and own it) and your "audience" will come. accept that some people will just not be into you (sound's cheesy but its true).

If you're looking to prove something to someone, anyone, then you've already lost

@Dads. I think I get what you're saying... and that it is:
"some people will like you some people wont. some white girls love to lose themselves in the sublime, toe curling, eye rolling, lip biting, ecstatic surrender, that they can only get from being pinned down and ravaged by that throbbing, black weighty-meat-baton. essentially ruining their bodies, hearts and sexual benchmarks for anyone that comes after ...and some prefer the men of their own race."
"but either way, the relative plethora of whiney threads that appear to have the undertone of bitching about a situation that does not appeal to nor apply to a majority of the forum's readers and have long since become obnoxious."



TM

Post: #8

(08-12-2014 10:24 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 09:51 PM)HeavyInTheGame Wrote:  I'm looking to have a serious conversation here. We all know African Americans and Hispanics have several negative stereotypes against them in the US.

As a African-American guy living in a 90% white area(NJ suburbs), I find girls are often hesitant to be seen out on dates with me. But those same girls will be hitting on me and trying to hook up at parties.

What are some ways to demonstrate value, and make them more comfortable.

Things I already try to have
-Am well dressed
-Drive a decent car
-Diverse social circle

What other things can help up your game

Don't worry too much about "value" and focus more so the ones I put in bold. If you're black and not a professional athlete or entertainer or high level politician, then you have to focus on the white girls who show interest. Life isn't fair.

Are you for real? I can't believe you said that.

He should approach whoever he desires, there is no need to be a professional athlete or entertainer. I don't know, maybe the scene in the US is different but in Europe there are MANY girls who would fuck a black guy and you wouldn't know it unless you approach them. I think none of the white girls I fucked showed primary interest on me, by primary interest I mean that none of them were eye fucking me or anything like that, I had to go there and game them. Saying this,white girls are not my target market, there are very few of them who have the body that I desire but whenever I see one that I like, I go for it.

Post: #9

I don't know what it is like in the USA or other parts of the world but certainly in the UK and Europe being black, Asian, Martian or whatever is no barrier to meeting women of any race. This is not 1950s anymore. If you want a high quality chick, you have to have the other aspects of your life (career, looks, status, entitlement, etc) handled. Its no different for a white or a black dude.

I figure, if someone want an average girl then the requirements will be dumbed down. Regardless of skin colour.

Post: #10

(08-13-2014 05:18 AM)pitt Wrote:  Are you for real? I can't believe you said that.

He should approach whoever he desires, there is no need to be a professional athlete or entertainer. I don't know, maybe the scene in the US is different but in Europe there are MANY girls who would fuck a black guy and you wouldn't know it unless you approach them. I think none of the white girls I fucked showed primary interest on me, by primary interest I mean that none of them were eye fucking me or anything like that, I had to go there and game them. Saying this,white girls are not my target market, there are very few of them who have the body that I desire but whenever I see one that I like, I go for it.

You better believe it. He can approach whomever he desires but the amount of work and resources he'll have to put in to convince to bang a run-of-the-mill 7+ Americunt will make it not even worth it. That's why I said he should focus on the ones who give him IOIs. He said he's in Jersey, not the West Coast/Texas/or the Midwest where a large portion of white women are open to dating "ordinary" non-famous black dudes.

Post: #11

@ TheMan

I'm a black guy as well.
One of the best things I've done to improve my personal success with girls overall not just "white girls" is to distance myself from the stereotype of an "adult black male".
I listen to hip-hop music but i do not watch BET or dress "black".
Being an interesting and fun guy to be around is so potent with girls. Toss in being able to speak another language and you'll be pulling them in no time.
I agree with everything you're saying here. Skin colour/race is a limitation only if you view it as one.

@Heavy in the Game

You're placing far too much value you on "white women".
The mindset you should have instead is
"Why should i notice her? How is she different than the other white girls across the room?"

Go to the gym and get jacked.
Dress better than the white dudes in your area. i.e. Not thug clothing or anything over sized. Check out some fashion blogs if you have difficulties figuring what works well for your skin tone.
Differentiate yourself from the lame dudes in your area. Girls will take notice.

Also who cares if the girls only holler at you at parties. The goal is to have sex not court them for marriage.
Take the girls home and smash. If you do a good enough job they will rationalize anything to see you again.

It sounds like you wanted to be accepted by people who might not like you for your skin colour. Fuck them.

Also don't take it personally if this girl or that girl doesn't like you, it would be unreasonable for them to expect you to like every single white girl.

Post: #12

Quote:Ways to Prove Value as a Minority Guy

1- Have value.

2- Prove nothing.

3- Repeat.

Post: #13

(08-13-2014 05:18 AM)pitt Wrote:  Are you for real? I can't believe you said that.

What is so unbelievable about this statement? I'm black and he's basically right. If your black it IS tougher if your not one of the above categories he mentioned. That's called reality.This is America we are talking about. Black guys need fame or money to get 8+'s consistently. Guys like Distant Light who have found an extreme niche to work that gives them status, seem to do well too.

There are however, regions of the US where it relativly easier to hook up with white chicks, and this is mostly due to scarcity. Places like Oregon or Arizona. Lots of threads on this topic.

Either that or be extremely good looking (think Tyson Beckford) to the point where she would look stupid if she outright rejected you. I myself use a combo of location and looks game to stay competitive. Being "mysterious" also helps black guys. There are different angles. Point is, we need them in this marketplace.

Post: #14

It sounds like Pitt is in Europe so that's where he is coming from

Post: #15

Stop asking how and just put in more work little brotha.. you'll figure it out. The hottest one you can think of right now isn't all that special

Post: #16

First off OP was coming at this from the wrong perspective

Makes it seem like being a 'minority guy' is a less than position

I don't deal in defeatist language - ALWAYS come from an angle of equality bro

Everywhere I go the glass is half full

Post: #17

I know this forum has a problem with Indian trolls, but is this the harbinger of the black trolls wave?

This guy's attitude was off. It vague reminds me of some sort of strange reverence wherein white girls are seen as unattainable. Aren't white girls typically the easiest to get with?

Post: #18

Easy, stop thinking yourself as being a minority.

The majority of the people on earth are non-white.

Post: #19

@Fortis
I've been noticing it a lot. I've been around for almost a year now and I can't really remember any legitimate IRT threads. There definitely has been a ton of "black race troll" threads.

@TheMan
Couldn't have put it better myself. I've been trying to think of an eloquent way to articulate an idea I was allying with my buddy about. He was asking me to talk to some girl for him (adult men in 2014 everyone) and wanted to make sure I asked if she was into black guys. I told him that worrying if girls are into black guys is pointless. Let's say x% of the female population is open to being with a black male. I can guarantee you that while that percentage may be lower than it is for girls open to being with a white male, the percentage of women open to being with each male as an individual will be significantly lower than those two numbers and probably more similar than one would think. So if you have an abundance mentality and solid game, your race should not affect your notch count. At the very least it's not an excuse.

Post: #20

(08-16-2014 02:06 AM)dads Wrote:  @Fortis
I've been noticing it a lot. I've been around for almost a year now and I can't really remember any legitimate IRT threads. There definitely has been a ton of "black race troll" threads.

On that basis, next it will be 'white race trolls'.

Post: #21

(08-13-2014 12:37 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  You better believe it. He can approach whomever he desires but the amount of work and resources he'll have to put in to convince to bang a run-of-the-mill 7+ Americunt will make it not even worth it. That's why I said he should focus on the ones who give him IOIs. He said he's in Jersey, not the West Coast/Texas/or the Midwest where a large portion of white women are open to dating "ordinary" non-famous black dudes.

Texas? And I keep hearing this thing about white girls in the Mid West liking black guys. Can someone break this down a bit? I only went to the Midwest for the first time last April, to Chicago. I was there several days, walked around a lot doing the tourist thing, went to bars, etc. I didn't see even one black dude with a white girl in a city of 10 million people for the whole trip. I even went bar hopping in the Wrigleyville and everyone seemed pretty self-segregated in their urban cliques that were along racial lines. Maybe other Midwestern cities are different? But Chicago is the biggest Midwest city so I'd think I'd see it there if anywhere.

Post: #22

(08-16-2014 03:45 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Texas? And I keep hearing this thing about white girls in the Mid West liking black guys. Can someone break this down a bit? I only went to the Midwest for the first time last April, to Chicago. I was there several days, walked around a lot doing the tourist thing, went to bars, etc. I didn't see even one black dude with a white girl in a city of 10 million people for the whole trip. I even went bar hopping in the Wrigleyville and everyone seemed pretty self-segregated in their urban cliques that were along racial lines. Maybe other Midwestern cities are different? But Chicago is the biggest Midwest city so I'd think I'd see it there if anywhere.

I'll admit Texas surprised me too. I can vouch for the Midwest, I've banged two white girls from that region (Kansas and Indiana) and fingerbanged one from Wisconsin. The Midwest has been my bread and butter for lays. My Indiana bang was actually on one of my visits to Chicago. And I do think Chicago is different, because of the lack of scarcity. The other states where I got my bangs from all had one thing in common and that was those girls were from towns with small black populations. Detroit also has that problem for the same reason.

Post: #23

(08-16-2014 03:45 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  Texas?

As a guy just outside the Dallas area, let me just say "yes" to this one....at least for Dallas. Not sure what scene in Austin or Houston is like though.

Post: #24

^ So Chicago has a huge non black population yet black people don't get involved with a large ethnic population that is white. How does that work?

Post: #25

(08-12-2014 09:51 PM)HeavyInTheGame Wrote:  I'm looking to have a serious conversation here. We all know African Americans and Hispanics have several negative stereotypes against them in the US.

As a African-American guy living in a 90% white area(NJ suburbs), I find girls are often hesitant to be seen out on dates with me. But those same girls will be hitting on me and trying to hook up at parties.

What are some ways to demonstrate value, and make them more comfortable.

Things I already try to have
-Am well dressed
-Drive a decent car
-Diverse social circle

What other things can help up your game

He is already banned.