Of course, cig-opener...probably the most successful opener in the past 200 years.

But what I was surprised that I didn't realize before is that the cig-puffing sluts all gather round the entrance to the parks...which makes it the perfect place to operate.

Last night I opened a girl who was smoking by saying...'you know, there are a lot of spiritual benefits from inhaling tobacco' and we had a fun convo about shamans.

(06-21-2014 04:49 PM)soup Wrote:  I think I'm the type of person that does really well with game when my life is in order, and then maybe not so well when I've got shit on my mind like job/money conflicts.

The older I get the more I've learned everything in life is balance. When I'm feeling good, I know good things are going to happen when I talk to girls. When I've got too much other stuff going on, my game definitely takes a hit, because I'll usually get sloppy drunk to forget the other stuff.

Completely out-gamed a guy at a house party last night going for the same girl as me. I almost felt bad, as I had no issues with the guy, but he just couldn't compete.

I kinda feel like I should write a detailed topic about this, and similar encounters, where I've utilized my game to crush the opposition. Might get some good examples in there, that people can use.

Is it me or does weed make you less anxious? Smoked pot with a couple of friends and we opened up sets like crazy in the park today. Nothing serious, just random jibber jabber. Even told this one girl how abnormally huge her forehead was, to which she started laughing(had a semi-heart attack, thought she would've flipped out). I need to start getting high more before I day game.

(06-22-2014 02:35 PM)CJ Wrote:  Completely out-gamed a guy at a house party last night going for the same girl as me. I almost felt bad, as I had no issues with the guy, but he just couldn't compete.

I kinda feel like I should write a detailed topic about this, and similar encounters, where I've utilized my game to crush the opposition. Might get some good examples in there, that people can use.

Do it dude

(06-22-2014 09:35 PM)pheonix500000 Wrote:  

(06-22-2014 02:35 PM)CJ Wrote:  Completely out-gamed a guy at a house party last night going for the same girl as me. I almost felt bad, as I had no issues with the guy, but he just couldn't compete.

I kinda feel like I should write a detailed topic about this, and similar encounters, where I've utilized my game to crush the opposition. Might get some good examples in there, that people can use.

Do it dude

I'd definitely be interested (in terms of behavior, your attitude, the physical and subtle things you did to make your takeover move successful)

(06-22-2014 02:35 PM)CJ Wrote:  Completely out-gamed a guy at a house party last night going for the same girl as me. I almost felt bad, as I had no issues with the guy, but he just couldn't compete.

I kinda feel like I should write a detailed topic about this, and similar encounters, where I've utilized my game to crush the opposition. Might get some good examples in there, that people can use.

Do it, you got a knack for comprehensive guides (Newbie guide helped)

If you get 3 numbers and one answers, is that a common ratio?
Went to a Pool Party for 2 hours yesterday and got 3 numbers.
Send a text to all 3 and had one answer the next day (surprisingly the drunker one). I'm starting to think that if you challenge and piss off a girl just enough during a conversation at least once, she will reply to you.

Got a solid 8 from Tinder that's DTF right now but she lives in Jersey City, which is about an hour drive from where I'm at(Brooklyn, NY). Should I pursue?

(06-23-2014 01:37 AM)game_ethic Wrote:  Got a solid 8 from Tinder that's DTF right now but she lives in Jersey City, which is about an hour drive from where I'm at(Brooklyn, NY). Should I pursue?

Listen to your dick, not other's opinions

I'd say go for it. Stay overnight and get the most rounds you can get. .

Just got back from the gym

I was laying on the mat doing some core work when in the corner of my eye I see this easy 9 (blonde Aryan dime, as per usual) walking over to use the leg press that's right next to me. I'm scoping hard but then as soon as she passes me I get a glimpse of her ass.

I've been pretty high strung lately writing my thesis and school work since the semester is slowly winding down, plus I haven't been laid in a few weeks so my moods been a little low. But then I saw this ass. This fucking ass.

In my 21 years on this earth I've never seen an ass like this in person, and I go to a huge US party school. It was literally so perfect that I didn't even realize I was blatantly staring until the guy next to me starts cracking up.

Imagine Mia Malkova, but hotter. That was this girl. The last time I oogled at a girl like this was probably high school.

Anyway now I'm feeling much better for some reason.

Careful bro, don't put that ass on a pedestal. Go get it.

(06-23-2014 04:50 PM)soup Wrote:  Careful bro, don't put that ass on a pedestal. Go get it.

No doubt. Thing is girls here fucking HATE being approached at the gym. Even if I've got a juicy shoulder pump going and testosterone is bursting out of every pore in my body they're never receptive. Bitch shields are at full max.

No matter. If I don't see her again I've got a spanish exchange girl on the backburner who I can dump a few loads in before heading back to my pussy buffet of a campus in August. Life is good

I've been pretty busy this week, and for some reason that's the most I've had candidates for a night of debauchery in a while. I have work, school and commitments all over town and these girls need the dick (4 so far). Actually having trouble scheduling these girls (my beta friends think I'm a dick) but it's a legitimate player problem.

What do guys think about oogling?

I think if you oogle then approach it's fine. Also oogling sets of chicks for a bit where you are looking for an in or they are passing by.

Some guys I am with give me a little shit for oogling a little too much. The more in the moment I am and the more I oogle around the more I approach.

Is this something I should look at? Seems like some oogling but not too much is confident.
Unconfident guys will almost be too afraid to properly check a chick out.

I only oogled for one reason

Oogling is a staple of my game.

Last night, I'm at a bbq leaning on a tree and just unabashedly staring at this 22 yo tight girls body.

She comes over and says "I see you looking at me"

I smirk and say "Of course I am, I think you're attractive"

You should have seen her face after that. Shock and awe and immediately hooked.

She didn't leave me alone for the rest of the time at the bbq. Going to see her Thursday, bang is pretty much in the bag.

(06-23-2014 07:01 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Oogling is a staple of my game.

Last night, I'm at a bbq leaning on a tree and just unabashedly staring at this 22 yo tight girls body.

She comes over and says "I see you looking at me"

I smirk and say "Of course I am, I think you're attractive"

You should have seen her face after that. Shock and awe and immediately hooked.

She didn't leave me alone for the rest of the time at the bbq. Going to see her Thursday, bang is pretty much in the bag.

Goldmund, I notice you have a strong, solid direct game. I'd be curious to see a breakdown from you sometime.

(06-23-2014 05:34 PM)Hans Dix Wrote:  

(06-23-2014 04:50 PM)soup Wrote:  Careful bro, don't put that ass on a pedestal. Go get it.

No doubt. Thing is girls here fucking HATE being approached at the gym. Even if I've got a juicy shoulder pump going and testosterone is bursting out of every pore in my body they're never receptive. Bitch shields are at full max.

No matter. If I don't see her again I've got a spanish exchange girl on the backburner who I can dump a few loads in before heading back to my pussy buffet of a campus in August. Life is good

What are you saying to open them?

[/quote]

Goldmund, I notice you have a strong, solid direct game. I'd be curious to see a breakdown from you sometime.
[/quote]

A lot of the time I do...but I found that this weekend it wasn't working so well (didn't get any bangs), and I switch up my style according to the zeitgeist.

Also...I had a harem for a while, but it all disintegrated last week.

Having the harem allowed me to be direct all the time...cos in the back of my head I didn't give a fuck about getting laid or not. Sometimes I got the ONS, sometimes I didn't. I always had three very cute girls ready to fuck. Not anymore.

Now I'm noticing a sea change (probably going to write a detailed post on this soon) and now that the harem is gone...I gotta be more efficient.

And toning down a bit is the route I'm going.

I'm heading out tonight, solo, and going to run some more indirect game to see what the results are like. (will post on here with updates).

This is why I love the game...you gotta be creative and be on your toes all the time or else it won't work.

Moving to the LES in NYC after living abroad for a number of years. Hoping to step it up and finally crack that top-shelf quality we all strive for.

Goldmund, I notice you have a strong, solid direct game. I'd be curious to see a breakdown from you sometime.
[/quote]

A lot of the time I do...but I found that this weekend it wasn't working so well (didn't get any bangs), and I switch up my style according to the zeitgeist.

Also...I had a harem for a while, but it all disintegrated last week.

Having the harem allowed me to be direct all the time...cos in the back of my head I didn't give a fuck about getting laid or not. Sometimes I got the ONS, sometimes I didn't. I always had three very cute girls ready to fuck. Not anymore.

Now I'm noticing a sea change (probably going to write a detailed post on this soon) and now that the harem is gone...I gotta be more efficient.

And toning down a bit is the route I'm going.

I'm heading out tonight, solo, and going to run some more indirect game to see what the results are like. (will post on here with updates).

This is why I love the game...you gotta be creative and be on your toes all the time or else it won't work.
[/quote]

I see the direct/indirect, loose/tight game things waxing and waning. I'm pretty sure it's an inner thing. The mind is like 90% doing all these subconscious things that we most guys aren't aware of, but girls can pick up on a lot of stuff.

A lot of game is about becoming aware of these subconscious mechanisms that manifest in body language, color our interpretations, and affect our moods.

(06-23-2014 07:21 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Goldmund, I notice you have a strong, solid direct game. I'd be curious to see a breakdown from you sometime.

Quote:A lot of the time I do...but I found that this weekend it wasn't working so well (didn't get any bangs), and I switch up my style according to the zeitgeist.

Also...I had a harem for a while, but it all disintegrated last week.

Having the harem allowed me to be direct all the time...cos in the back of my head I didn't give a fuck about getting laid or not. Sometimes I got the ONS, sometimes I didn't. I always had three very cute girls ready to fuck. Not anymore.

Now I'm noticing a sea change (probably going to write a detailed post on this soon) and now that the harem is gone...I gotta be more efficient.

And toning down a bit is the route I'm going.

I'm heading out tonight, solo, and going to run some more indirect game to see what the results are like. (will post on here with updates).

This is why I love the game...you gotta be creative and be on your toes all the time or else it won't work.

Awesome. And it is true, lately I've been trying the direct approach and it's been giving me mixed results, some girls get scared and can't handle it, others love it and can't get enough of it.

Sometimes I just do direct when I can't think of an opener, but I prefer natural openers, making a comment about them/or something around that stands out and going from there. Regardless of the opener, I will show my intent with non-verbal sooner than later. I notice where we differ is you're more verbal about it, which I should try doing a little more, and I'm more non-verbal about it but I still think you got game, player.

(06-23-2014 07:01 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Oogling is a staple of my game.

Last night, I'm at a bbq leaning on a tree and just unabashedly staring at this 22 yo tight girls body.

She comes over and says "I see you looking at me"

I smirk and say "Of course I am, I think you're attractive"

You should have seen her face after that. Shock and awe and immediately hooked.

She didn't leave me alone for the rest of the time at the bbq. Going to see her Thursday, bang is pretty much in the bag.

That's what my gut tells me. It's like when a chick meets eyes with you across a room never look away or down first, make her look away then approach.

(06-23-2014 07:43 PM)Vytas Wrote:  Moving to the LES in NYC after living abroad for a number of years. Hoping to step it up and finally crack that top-shelf quality we all strive for.

Very interesting you should make a post about what countries you lived in and why you decided on NYC.

On the forum it is almost always the reverse go abroad and stay away to U.S., I know NYC is different though, but being abroad for years were any other international cities contenders in your mind?