Post: #1

I met a girl at the bars. Cute hb7, 24 years old. She was super flirty with me, but like b1tchy-hard type flirty. I am actually pretty good at dealing with that, I just kind of amplify and argue and give them $hit. I was pretty sure this girl was into me, so I just kept talking to her and giving her shit randomly throughout the night.

Ended up leaving with her somehow, and walking back to her house. I got a lot of "your not getting into my apartment" on the way. I just let that roll off my back. It was like she was running some kind of crazy push pull type game. At some point she was like "i am going to punch you" So I said, "you won't do it". So she punches me in the face (not a hard punch, but more than playing) WTF? I just ignored it completely and continued on. This chick was feisty as all hell, but boarderline too feisty. For whatever reason I always tend to egg girls like that on, and its hard to tell if they like me or hate me or both. I used the bathroom excuse (thank you Roosh!) to get into her place and ended up in her bed.

Things were going along nicely, clothes were off, and all of the sudden she freaks out and rolls away. I just let that roll off my back, start off slow and re-escalate. She freaks out again! I think even a tear or two were shed this time. I escalate again, but at this point i am afraid to actually try to fvck this girl. I hate to admit it but I did slip my c0ck in a couple times sans condom and she stopped me. Funny thing is, I had a condom in my pants, but after the freakouts I couldn't bring myself to actually get the condom and do the deed, maybe a bolder man would have, but it messed with my dominate frame having her freak out like that. I just stayed with fingering her which she was getting really into. I was giving some serious g-spot play but she kept stopping me as she was getting close to cumming. Maybe she never experienced a squirt before?

At some point I just kind of gave up, and fell asleep cuddling her. We fooled around again in the morning and she was like a completely different girl. Her eyes were not firey anymore, they were kind. She was basically a sweet heart, and we hung out in bed for like 3 hours this morning.

She claimed that she gets manic when she drinks and her friends even gave her a nickname for her drunken alter ego. We joked about it openly this morning, we even joked about me sneaking my c0ck in sans condom.

Kind of a strange experience, kind of wish I got the bang, but maybe it was for the best considering her hardcore LMR. We exchanged numbers this morning, not sure if its worth attempting again or not.

Send her a random text with some callback humor from this morning, got a quick positive response. Best to leave this kind of girl alone, or attempt to meet her again and try for the bang again?

Post: #2

I think I heard an expression that went "do not put dick into crazy."

That would be my two cents.

But still a good job on getting her to her place.

Post: #3

Once a girl shows shes crazy or emotionally instable its deescalate and get her the hell out of your place. Best case scenario u deal with a crazy chick whos more hassle than its worth worst case u get sum bs rape accusation. Not worth it

Post: #4

I think alcohol can loosen inhibitions to the point where a part of ourselves which we normally keep under lock and key comes out to play.

The two of you have serious chemistry. Tension is what creates sexual attraction, and you like the kind this girl provides, but you seem worried about biting off more than you can chew.

Listen to your gut.

Post: #5

It sounds like she has a drinking problem but is pretty cool and mellow normally. And she likes you.

If you just want to get laid, go hang out with her sober, or with nothing more than a couple glasses of wine to set the mood, and then bang.

Avoid any temptation for a relationship if it gets to that point. You don't want to get caught up with a fiery alcoholic.

And don't be surprised if you bang her more than once and start getting late night drunk texts when you disappear.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #6

chemistry is right, this girl is def not the hottest girl I have been after, but I was more drawn to her than I have been to any chick in a while. Something about her eyes (no homo).
Anyways, Have a date to meet up for a couple drinks tonight in town near her place. Will see if I can feel out the crazy with a much clearer state of mind (was at least 7 or 8 beers deep when I met her the first time).
Wish me luck gents, crazy bitches.

Post: #7

Have fun, but don't get her pregnant. Feel like I'm watching an old horror flick from my past.

Edit: And listen to what BB said about "very light" drinking. You want to be able to keep your wits about you in the bedroom.

Post: #8

met up with miss freakout last night, she was in town having dinner with coworkers or something and had run into one of her friends. She was sitting at the bar with said female friend and friends BF.

I think....no biggie, the friends will peace out and I will proceed with my night. Well, the BF peaces out to go work at a local club and the friend sticks around. I venue change it, she comes along, I venue change it again....she still comes along. Apparently she is waiting to give her BF a ride home from the club after he is done. She finally peaces out, but at this point I have built no real momentum with girl of interest and I basically need to pull a hail-mary or just call it and go home.

Freakout girl apologizes profusely after friends leaves claiming she had no idea she was going to stick around for so long. Seemed genuine, but the damage was done for me. I couldn't recover and make the bang happen last night. Made out for a while in freakout girls car and left for home annoyed. To top it off it started raining super hard and I am motorcycle status while waiting for some parts to fix my car.

Another failed bang attempt by Mtnman, not doing so hot with my early attempts at getting into gaming.

Post: #9

She wanted it rough. She deliberately put enough resistance so you'll fulfill her rape fantasy.

Post: #10

(04-30-2014 07:56 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  She wanted it rough. She deliberately put enough resistance so you'll fulfill her rape fantasy.

you may be right, but i didn't have the balls to try for it. I get the sense that this girl may be a real fun lay, but I can feel it slipping away. I haven't been with a boarder line crazy woman in several years, and I secretly want to experience it again!

Post: #11

(04-30-2014 12:02 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 07:56 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  She wanted it rough. She deliberately put enough resistance so you'll fulfill her rape fantasy.

you may be right, but i didn't have the balls to try for it. I get the sense that this girl may be a real fun lay, but I can feel it slipping away. I haven't been with a boarder line crazy woman in several years, and I secretly want to experience it again!

What happened with the one from several years ago?

And why didn't you bang her in the car? You got her to make out in the car, but couldn't bang her? It is tougher when she's behind the wheel I guess, but you need to come up with an excuse like, "Hey, what's it like being behind the wheel of this thing? I wan't to see, let's switch spots".

If you're in a crowded area, tell her that you want to show her a secret place with an amazing view. You should already know the secluded spots in your city and then insist on driving her, maybe even demand to blindfold her so she doesn't learn the secret location. If she balks, tell her she should be grateful you're not throwing her in the trunk too. I did this once, in high school, and it was a lot of fun.

Post: #12

(04-30-2014 12:43 PM)Onto Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 12:02 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 07:56 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  She wanted it rough. She deliberately put enough resistance so you'll fulfill her rape fantasy.

you may be right, but i didn't have the balls to try for it. I get the sense that this girl may be a real fun lay, but I can feel it slipping away. I haven't been with a boarder line crazy woman in several years, and I secretly want to experience it again!

What happened with the one from several years ago?

And why didn't you bang her in the car? You got her to make out in the car, but couldn't bang her? It is tougher when she's behind the wheel I guess, but you need to come up with an excuse like, "Hey, what's it like being behind the wheel of this thing? I wan't to see, let's switch spots".

If you're in a crowded area, tell her that you want to show her a secret place with an amazing view. You should already know the secluded spots in your city and then insist on driving her, maybe even demand to blindfold her so she doesn't learn the secret location. If she balks, tell her she should be grateful you're not throwing her in the trunk too. I did this once, in high school, and it was a lot of fun.

The girl from several years ago was sucking the life out of me after a while, so i stopped dating her. But it was fun while it lasted, I think this chick is more sane, but strikes me as having similar qualities.

We were in an extremely public place, people everywhere, very well lit. Great idea with the secret spot, I def know a few places like that. I think I could have probably convinced her to take me back to her place honestly. It was a horrible cold rainy night, and I have a 45 minute motorcycle ride home. Could have worked with that too.

I just lost my momentum, and being annoyed with a chick kills my boner. I find it hard to push for a bang after that. I need to learn how to roll with the punches better, and think on my feet better. I have very tough logistics for early bangs given my living situation etc, but there are still chances to get bangs that I have missed out on.

If this chick contacts me in the future, i may attempt to get her to my town (tiny town). We talked quite a bit about this amazing little cafe/pub that is the jewel of my town. I didn't suggest that we go there, but maybe the hampster picked up on the idea. I was thinking meet at my place, take one car to pub, eat/drink, back to mine, lure into house, bang.

Post: #13

Sounds like a plan and a good premises for her coming out to meet you on your territory, but if you can get her into your place from the get go, have some appetizers ready, cheese spread with some meats, olives, bread along with wine, play the mood music and after 2 glasses of wine with conversation she'll be good to bang and there will be no need to go out.

You're starting out at the very place you want to be finishing at.

Well, that's just what I would do, you should do what works for you of course.

Post: #14

(04-30-2014 07:00 AM)MtnMan Wrote:  met up with miss freakout last night, she was in town having dinner with coworkers or something and had run into one of her friends. She was sitting at the bar with said female friend and friends BF.

I think....no biggie, the friends will peace out and I will proceed with my night. Well, the BF peaces out to go work at a local club and the friend sticks around. I venue change it, she comes along, I venue change it again....she still comes along. Apparently she is waiting to give her BF a ride home from the club after he is done. She finally peaces out, but at this point I have built no real momentum with girl of interest and I basically need to pull a hail-mary or just call it and go home.

Freakout girl apologizes profusely after friends leaves claiming she had no idea she was going to stick around for so long. Seemed genuine, but the damage was done for me. I couldn't recover and make the bang happen last night. Made out for a while in freakout girls car and left for home annoyed. To top it off it started raining super hard and I am motorcycle status while waiting for some parts to fix my car.

Another failed bang attempt by Mtnman, not doing so hot with my early attempts at getting into gaming.

Don't beat up on yourself, Man. This sounds like a legit scenario that just happens. Not every night is a snap. Give it another go or two before you get too frustrated.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #15

thanks for the words gents. I already feel better about this whole thing. Going to let it sit for a while, make plans with other chicks and maybe try again with this one later.

Its frustrating. I have not really gotten a bang yet since actively attempting to learn game. I have had a bunch of makeouts and decent dates, which is certainly an improvement over my old self. I guess technically I had my cock in this girl for a millisecond, but I don't count that.

It feels like trying to break through a brick wall here!

Post: #16

(04-30-2014 02:34 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  Its frustrating. I have not really gotten a bang yet since actively attempting to learn game. I have had a bunch of makeouts and decent dates, which is certainly an improvement over my old self.

If it were easy, everyone would do it.

What you've outlined in the bolded part is tangible progress.

I think with most things worth doing, people turn back because they don't see results as fast as they hoped to. That's a big mistake.

If you're seeing results you are getting somewhere.

People who learn game naturally do exactly what you're doing. They meet women, they take them on dates, they make out with them, and eventually the get bangs. Over time, they get better at it, but there are a lot of strike-outs along the way.

Keep going.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #17

A bit of an update:
I just get a text from freakout girl
"Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

Have not replied yet, i hate text game. If I was talking with her on the phone, I'd have no issue with this, but over text I feel like my sarcasm and wit that works great in person shoots me in the foot.
was thinking of replying
"yea, good times"

or
"yea good times, next time its your turn to drive"

Maybe i shouldnt suggest getting together again, let the hamster have some food. I know it wants it.

Post: #18

(04-30-2014 03:01 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  A bit of an update:
I just get a text from freakout girl
"Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

Have not replied yet, i hate text game. If I was talking with her on the phone, I'd have no issue with this, but over text I feel like my sarcasm and wit that works great in person shoots me in the foot.
was thinking of replying
"yea, good times"

or
"yea good times, next time its your turn to drive"

Maybe i shouldnt suggest getting together again, let the hamster have some food. I know it wants it.

Both of those will dry up panties. Why haven't you invited her to go on a motorcycle ride with you? You get to decide what you're doing and she gets to hang on and be on a thrilling experience that will make her want you more.

Post: #19

(04-30-2014 05:24 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(04-30-2014 03:01 PM)MtnMan Wrote:  A bit of an update:
I just get a text from freakout girl
"Thanks again for driving in moderately shitty weather to hang out with me (and Emily) last night!"

Have not replied yet, i hate text game. If I was talking with her on the phone, I'd have no issue with this, but over text I feel like my sarcasm and wit that works great in person shoots me in the foot.
was thinking of replying
"yea, good times"

or
"yea good times, next time its your turn to drive"

Maybe i shouldnt suggest getting together again, let the hamster have some food. I know it wants it.

Both of those will dry up panties. Why haven't you invited her to go on a motorcycle ride with you? You get to decide what you're doing and she gets to hang on and be on a thrilling experience that will make her want you more.

its horrible motorcycle weather here right now (40s and rain), but obviously that is one of my go to things to get women out and about. Most chicks dont want to put on a rain suit and freeze to death on the driving rain.

Post: #20

little update here, freakout girl came to my place for dinner and movie, had a good time, ate, made out, banged. No LMR whatsoever, nothing strange at all. She actually appears to be a decent chick, knows how to cook, polite etc. Minimal shit testing.
Only downfall noted, she has TMJ and claims she cannot suck cock because it hurts too much. I sort of need a chick to do this if I am banging with a condom since I almost never get off with a condom on.

Post: #21

(05-06-2014 08:05 AM)MtnMan Wrote:  little update here, freakout girl came to my place for dinner and movie, had a good time, ate, made out, banged. No LMR whatsoever, nothing strange at all. She actually appears to be a decent chick, knows how to cook, polite etc. Minimal shit testing.

Don't forget, "..likes to get out of control drunk at bars and take home guys she just met."

Sounds like a keeper.

Post: #22

Hah! Touché