Post: #26

Approach 16I asked this girl from my class out to lunch. My main goal for this interaction was just to continue talking and talking.

Well I failed haha, luckily she was very open and talkative and made up for my lack of good ramble. I was proud though that I at least tried. I was with her for 40 minutes...and managed to not have many silences.

Approach 17
I saw this girl at my regular restaurant and told her a story...it was a boring one, but she listened and provided feedback. I was nervous a little, just because I have trouble stringing words together on the spot...

yea yea i know i pretty far away, but im improving. Trying to incorporate Galnuc more.

Post: #27

Bro. Parties.

In College the name of the game is partially just not becoming a mess by the end of the night. Be smart. Drink water in between getting drunk. I'm not saying don't drink, but drink slower than your peers and order soda water every so often. Vodka and Vitamin Water. Just don't become a mess. You will be able to stand and make decisions late at night, when people are trying to fuck.

Don't even bother with lunch dates and shit.

Be social during the day, be friendly with everyone, get to know people, but all that is is a setup to bone girls you know later at night, or invite them to your place to party. Or maybe smoke hookah. You've got lots of energy to be doing this but you're investing it in a decidedly harder path.

Post: #28

^ Agreed no lunch dates. Parties are good, but you can do both.

Isolating a girl for a smoke/drink while walking by your dorm or place is an easy sell after a number crunch.

If you don't have at least 2 parties you can invite girls to each week I would focus on joining a frat, sport, events crew, college radio, professional club or social club to get this set up first.

Being able to get a girl isolated without being in her social circle is always a great tool to have.

Post: #29

Well I'll be reading your thread with interest as that will be me in a couple of months. If you need advice on social circle game PM me or post a question here and I'll be more than happy to help. If you're sticking around where you are at, I wrote a how to for social circle game(Nemencine posted the mechanics for infiltrating into the ones you're already at in the thread)
/thread-34576.html

Good Luck mate. Wish you the best.

Post: #30

(04-09-2014 09:25 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Well I'll be reading your thread with interest as that will be me in a couple of months. If you need advice on social circle game PM me or post a question here and I'll be more than happy to help. If you're sticking around where you are at, I wrote a how to for social circle game(Nemencine posted the mechanics for infiltrating into the ones you're already at in the thread)
/thread-34576.html

Good Luck mate. Wish you the best.

Thanks man, that's funny. I actually read yours and Nemencine's post recently. Feel free to drop advice on here, I'm open to all types of criticism.

Post: #31

At the time in College, I didnt want to join a frat. I thought they were douchey idiots and didnt want to be a part of that.

Instead I hung out with other douchey idiots that werent in a frat. Real truth is that frat guys get laid more, focus om being jacked, get into good careers, and after college generally have a good job and make bank.

I am not a frat kinda guy, but objectively, they did better in college and after than most non frat people. Most got good grades and achieved success after college. More than many non frat people, imo.

Post: #32

(04-10-2014 05:48 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  At the time in College, I didnt want to join a frat. I thought they were douchey idiots and didnt want to be a part of that.

Instead I hung out with other douchey idiots that werent in a frat. Real truth is that frat guys get laid more, focus om being jacked, get into good careers, and after college generally have a good job and make bank.

I am not a frat kinda guy, but objectively, they did better in college and after than most non frat people. Most got good grades and achieved success after college. More than many non frat people, imo.

I have friends that are in various frats and I was actually in one freshmen year, but left because they were idiots and douchey. At the time I didn't drink or smoke too. My grades and career track are in the top of the top. I will be making "bank" so that's not a priority for me right now. #1 is to get laid.

I only struggle with the social aspect. I'm quiet and friendly but not the alpha in social game. When it comes to career, I am truly an alpha guy. I ace it, no questions.

^^ Above is kinda the reason why I have plenty of friends who are players and all-stars but I only hang with them in class room and recruiting settings. I'm invited to the social scene, but I can't keep up with them because I have no clue what to say or do...

sure i can talk about sports/women/whatever for like 20 minutes, but i just don't fully fit for long periods of time and I end up sitting on the side being quiet all night...and it just sucks...

I'm not funny...trying to work on it. I'm just the added extra guy on the side.

Post: #33

Approach 18
At a restaurant where I'm a regular. My friend is with me, cute girl on my direct left.
Me: I can't believe you sit like that.
Her: haha, I'm not some yoga guru but I love sitting like this. (sitting cross cross on a chair...)
We talk for 2 minutes
I go back to talk with friend, he leaves, i go back to talking with her.
Me: Do you come here often? The food is amazing.
Her: YES!! I love this place.
Turns out she's a regular too...we keep talking (mentions she has an out of state bf)

I don't have strong enough game to house break yet...plus not that good karma, so didn't go for the number
She was very open got her food to go, came back said nice to meet you, her name, shook my hand and left. (friend zoned probably) still have that stigma

Post: #34

You dont have to be at these parties all the time. You can come and go as you please. Show up, drink a little, meet a girl and try to bounce with her. No jeed to be there 9-3 gettin blasted.

I am a natural introvert too, ie, these parties drain me. But whatever just invite girls there, be texting all the prospects you have inviting them over, then bounce w one or a girl from the party.

Post: #35

Watch and learn from your friends. Don't avoid them, just by hanging around you will absorb.

Don't get up in your head, just focus constantly on staying in the moment. Make eye contact, smile, laugh, don't retreat. Also if they are all sitting or standing around don't shy off to the corner. Even if you don't have much to say stay physically in the middle of things to force yourself out of your comfort zone.

These friends are valuable.

Post: #36

(04-11-2014 03:27 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  Approach 18
At a restaurant where I'm a regular. My friend is with me, cute girl on my direct left.
Me: I can't believe you sit like that.
Her: haha, I'm not some yoga guru but I love sitting like this. (sitting cross cross on a chair...)
We talk for 2 minutes
I go back to talk with friend, he leaves, i go back to talking with her.
Me: Do you come here often? The food is amazing.
Her: YES!! I love this place.
Turns out she's a regular too...we keep talking (mentions she has an out of state bf)

I don't have strong enough game to house break yet...plus not that good karma, so didn't go for the number
She was very open got her food to go, came back said nice to meet you, her name, shook my hand and left. (friend zoned probably) still have that stigma

Wouldn't matter to me, you've got nothing to lose by trying to number close and flirting and saying things like let's grab some drinks soon and/or meet up for some food here (then again you don't shit where you eat?) anyways, I'd go in for the number, who cares about the BF.

Trust me if you had a girl that was out of state, you know guys are approaching her doing the same thing !

Post: #37

2 girls opened me tonight... an 8 and a 9.

Approach 19
The 8, fuck I should have followed up but I didn't - too loud.. the whole getting over my quiet voice is too long term. She was a hispanic, and we had minimal conversation. she had wide open eyes looking at me. she definitely wanted to talk longer.

Approach 20
The second girl (9) opened me: where are you from. I'm like guess, she gets pissed, doesn't want to guess. I say guess my nationality at least...we keep going, it ends in a couple minutes when she talks to another guy close to her...

The fucking loud noises man. how the fuck do i talk over it... even if im whispering in her ear...using techniques to increase volume...just the improvement is so slow.

Post: #38

Approach 21
Foodline at Moes
The server and the cute girl ordering were confused - miscommunication.
I started laughing and made her a little embarrassed and then opened her. She smiled and we talked throughout the line. I actually did some rambling for the first time. Couldn't build it up enough before the register. She was eating alone after but I had commitments so had to bounce.

I hesitated in the beginning when I just got to the line and therefore lost some time. If I had gone straight away I probably could have gotten her number.

Post: #39

(04-09-2014 09:25 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Well I'll be reading your thread with interest as that will be me in a couple of months. If you need advice on social circle game PM me or post a question here and I'll be more than happy to help. If you're sticking around where you are at, I wrote a how to for social circle game(Nemencine posted the mechanics for infiltrating into the ones you're already at in the thread)
/thread-34576.html

Good Luck mate. Wish you the best.

Do you know where you want to go?

Post: #40

(04-16-2014 07:11 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

(04-09-2014 09:25 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  Well I'll be reading your thread with interest as that will be me in a couple of months. If you need advice on social circle game PM me or post a question here and I'll be more than happy to help. If you're sticking around where you are at, I wrote a how to for social circle game(Nemencine posted the mechanics for infiltrating into the ones you're already at in the thread)
/thread-34576.html

Good Luck mate. Wish you the best.

Do you know where you want to go?

I'm stuck at the University of Houston(as I have a full ride) if anyone is going there also it would be legit as there aren't exactly college aged RVF members in my city.

Post: #41

(04-16-2014 07:05 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  Approach 21
Foodline at Moes
The server and the cute girl ordering were confused - miscommunication.
I started laughing and made her a little embarrassed and then opened her. She smiled and we talked throughout the line. I actually did some rambling for the first time. Couldn't build it up enough before the register. She was eating alone after but I had commitments so had to bounce.

I hesitated in the beginning when I just got to the line and therefore lost some time. If I had gone straight away I probably could have gotten her number.

Usually you need more than a couple minutes to work a girl. It was a lost cause as you had prior commitments. Good practice nonetheless. Do what I'm doing and just use these people as a way to build rapport.

Post: #42

(04-16-2014 07:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:05 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  Approach 21
Foodline at Moes
The server and the cute girl ordering were confused - miscommunication.
I started laughing and made her a little embarrassed and then opened her. She smiled and we talked throughout the line. I actually did some rambling for the first time. Couldn't build it up enough before the register. She was eating alone after but I had commitments so had to bounce.

I hesitated in the beginning when I just got to the line and therefore lost some time. If I had gone straight away I probably could have gotten her number.

Usually you need more than a couple minutes to work a girl. It was a lost cause as you had prior commitments. Good practice nonetheless. Do what I'm doing and just use these people as a way to build rapport.

that sucks dude! I heard that that is a commuter school!

Post: #43

(04-16-2014 07:39 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:34 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 07:05 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  Approach 21
Foodline at Moes
The server and the cute girl ordering were confused - miscommunication.
I started laughing and made her a little embarrassed and then opened her. She smiled and we talked throughout the line. I actually did some rambling for the first time. Couldn't build it up enough before the register. She was eating alone after but I had commitments so had to bounce.

I hesitated in the beginning when I just got to the line and therefore lost some time. If I had gone straight away I probably could have gotten her number.

Usually you need more than a couple minutes to work a girl. It was a lost cause as you had prior commitments. Good practice nonetheless. Do what I'm doing and just use these people as a way to build rapport.

that sucks dude! I heard that that is a commuter school!

It is one, but didn't get enough scholarship money from UT. Weighing my options, focusing on learning a language before my four years are up, getting an engineering degree(80k starting), and going to college debt free is more than enough incentive to deal with a commuter school. Lifestyle first and I'll be sampling women as I go through it.

Post: #44

I regularly party with and fuck girls going to UH. You need a ride. Do you have one?

Post: #45

(04-16-2014 08:31 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  I regularly party with and fuck girls going to UH. You need a ride. Do you have one?

I'll be down to party when Rush starts or around November(as I can get an excuse to stay out all night). I'll be getting a car soon so no worries about rides.

Post: #46

Approach 22
I asked a girl to play darts with me. She was a classmate and turned out to be a great wingwomen. Unfortunately she's graduating so there goes that, but she was actually really helpful the entire night.

Approach 23
Ethnic girl and I pulled her to darts as well, I "taught" her and touched her and eventually brought her entire friend group over. Half of them left and I stopped chasing this one because her other friend was hotter.

Approach 24
She was the hotter ethnic girl. I essentially held her close and taught her how to throw a dart. I'm a really good teacher so both girls did really well. I had them have a competition between the 2 and I said I would buy the winner a drink. Thankfully the hotter one won!! So I bought her a drink...$7 WHAT...broke college student. Anyways her guys friends come back and literally push me out of the group. my conversational skills aren't that great and I tried to do the hey my name is XX and be alpha but lol I failed. It was shitty...

I went back and got the number, she smiled and gave it happily.

Approach 25
I got approached by a 10. I realized later she was a classmate of mine and she was out of my league. by far. We kept talking and touching, OMG, so sexy. literally perfect. To put it in perspective I would take her over a couple actresses like Katie Upton, etc or at least on same level.

Anyways last one I couldn't keep up with. She friend zoned me fast and then smirked when I went to shake her hand. FUCK ME. WHY THE FUCK DID I GO FOR THE HANDSHAKE. literally idiot...at least hug goddammit.

Anyways, what do I do for the 3rd approach? the one where I try to block out 2 of her friends coming in...and they were friend zoned. So when the 2 guys came up, I held out my hand, and the guy called me a begger..I played along with it but I basically debased myself... bad decision right? I should have never put my worth down..

Post: #47

(04-18-2014 12:54 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  Approach 22
I asked a girl to play darts with me. She was a classmate and turned out to be a great wingwomen. Unfortunately she's graduating so there goes that, but she was actually really helpful the entire night.

Approach 23
Ethnic girl and I pulled her to darts as well, I "taught" her and touched her and eventually brought her entire friend group over. Half of them left and I stopped chasing this one because her other friend was hotter.

Approach 24
She was the hotter ethnic girl. I essentially held her close and taught her how to throw a dart. I'm a really good teacher so both girls did really well. I had them have a competition between the 2 and I said I would buy the winner a drink. Thankfully the hotter one won!! So I bought her a drink...$7 WHAT...broke college student. Anyways her guys friends come back and literally push me out of the group. my conversational skills aren't that great and I tried to do the hey my name is XX and be alpha but lol I failed. It was shitty...

I went back and got the number, she smiled and gave it happily.

Approach 25
I got approached by a 10. I realized later she was a classmate of mine and she was out of my league. by far. We kept talking and touching, OMG, so sexy. literally perfect. To put it in perspective I would take her over a couple actresses like Katie Upton, etc or at least on same level.

Anyways last one I couldn't keep up with. She friend zoned me fast and then smirked when I went to shake her hand. FUCK ME. WHY THE FUCK DID I GO FOR THE HANDSHAKE. literally idiot...at least hug goddammit.

Anyways, what do I do for the 3rd approach? the one where I try to block out 2 of her friends coming in...and they were friend zoned. So when the 2 guys came up, I held out my hand, and the guy called me a begger..I played along with it but I basically debased myself... bad decision right? I should have never put my worth down..

3rd approach is still salvageable. I've gotten accidentally nervous before too towards really hot girls I always meet through friends. I would highly suggest learning how to appear stoic when nervous. For me it's a subconscious thing that I sort of just do, and I always sound slightly pissed, a bit uncaring, and aloof(practice this by keeping the one though of being cold towards girls who approach as girls who want to use you because they usually do or they are curious due to them hearing about you from friends).

Now on to how you can salvage the last one. Every time you run into her just say hi coldly while passing her by as if you are in a hurry and don't have time for her. Do it like twice and the third time humor her with a conversation. Sound like you are warming up to her, and then next time you see her rinse and repeat being cold but you can have a conversation with her. At this point, she will even start approaching you. Girls like her have a Madonna complex thinking they can pull any guy they want. Be cold and even her friends, if female, will try their luck with you. Don't waste your time talking to her on your own and even put her to the side in your head. Only communicate if you both notice each other with her glancing towards you. If she opens a conversation with you randomly rather than a passing by hi initially in the early stage then I would be cold and a bit annoyed and if the conversation goes longer than 6-7 min. just walk off. I guarantee if you do this she will be fuming on the inside trying to chase you. I stress again though DO NOT APPROACH HER EVER. Keep her on the back burner.

Post: #48

Just know that by 200, 500, 1000 approaches many of these ticks, quirks, and mistakes you
make will disappear quickly.

Look in the mirror once in awhile and check your body language and facial expression. Even rehearse an approach that went south and see how you look in the mirror when you open your imaginary girl you may be shocked to see how many things you can improve.

Body language, working out, style, and comfort being out will nullify many of these cockblock events whether self or externally inflicted.

Post: #49

Lol at "ethnic girl". Was she a negro?

Post: #50

(04-18-2014 02:00 PM)Screwston Wrote:  Lol at "ethnic girl". Was she a negro?

People need to tone down the political correctness. A simple White, Black, Asian, or Latina works.