Post: #1

OK gentleman. I’ve got a good one for you. I just got my heart broken by a beautiful 40 year old woman on Facebook. Here’s some background. I'm 61 years old and I've been celibate virtually my whole life due to various health and addiction issues when I was in my teens and twenties. And I’ve had enormous developmental challenges ever since which have made sex something beyond reach. So I've been struggling to start a career support myself and make a life ever since, despite some notable achievements like an Ivy League masters degree, a brief stint on Wall Street and my great physical condition (I run at least 5 miles daily, have good abs and lift weights.) After severe financial problems that included collection agencies and enormous student loans, I've finally stopped the financial bleeding thanks to a lecturer appointment at a major university that frankly I'm a bit proud of although it doesn't pay much. At least for now, I live in my mother's house because I'm just barely getting by. That said, I'm not struggling so much so I'm suddenly suddenly “looking up” and I'm noticing good looking babes and sex for the first time with sober eyes. And I want both. It's far easier for me to approach women online right now due to my isolated geographic location. I'm realizing I've been a beta male for most of my life. I'm very active on Facebook and just joined Match.com. I've contacted over 60 women in two weeks with no results. I just lost out to an alpha on Facebook with an alpha woman I was working on. She was swept out from under me. Subsequently, after reading up on male/female interaction, I see that I did everything wrong in my pursuit of her. At my age I actually need coaching! Finally, I'm attracted to women aged 20 to 40 (there are some really hot women 40 years old.) So my question is, how do I practice game online? And is it feasible for a 61 year old (and I do have some great attributes) to have a few flings with hot 40 year olds? Life is short and this is my last chance. If so, where do I begin? How does a guy under my circumstances project an alpha image? HELP!

Post: #2

It's so awesome that I share a place with a 61 year old trying to improve himself with women. It's never too late. There's lots of threads on here with advice from men wiser than I, but I just wanna wish you the best of luck.
Don't let the wins get to your head and don't let the losses get to your heart.

Post: #3

(04-06-2014 09:24 AM)Kimber Wrote:  It's so awesome that I share a place with a 61 year old trying to improve himself with women. It's never too late. There's lots of threads on here with advice from men wiser than I, but I just wanna wish you the best of luck.
Don't let the wins get to your head and don't let the losses get to your heart.

Much appreciated.

Post: #4

I'm not sure why the term "male feminist" appears after my name.

Post: #5

(04-06-2014 09:02 AM)TPD Wrote:  OK gentleman. I’ve got a good one for you. I just got my heart broken by a beautiful 40 year old woman on Facebook. Here’s some background. I'm 61 years old and I've been celibate virtually my whole life due to various health and addiction issues when I was in my teens and twenties. And I’ve had enormous developmental challenges ever since which have made sex something beyond reach. So I've been struggling to start a career support myself and make a life ever since, despite some notable achievements like an Ivy League masters degree, a brief stint on Wall Street and my great physical condition (I run at least 5 miles daily, have good abs and lift weights.) After severe financial problems that included collection agencies and enormous student loans, I've finally stopped the financial bleeding thanks to a lecturer appointment at a major university that frankly I'm a bit proud of although it doesn't pay much. At least for now, I live in my mother's house because I'm just barely getting by. That said, I'm not struggling so much so I'm suddenly suddenly “looking up” and I'm noticing good looking babes and sex for the first time with sober eyes. And I want both. It's far easier for me to approach women online right now due to my isolated geographic location. I'm realizing I've been a beta male for most of my life. I'm very active on Facebook and just joined Match.com. I've contacted over 60 women in two weeks with no results. I just lost out to an alpha on Facebook with an alpha woman I was working on. She was swept out from under me. Subsequently, after reading up on male/female interaction, I see that I did everything wrong in my pursuit of her. At my age I actually need coaching! Finally, I'm attracted to women aged 20 to 40 (there are some really hot women 40 years old.) So my question is, how do I practice game online? And is it feasible for a 61 year old (and I do have some great attributes) to have a few flings with hot 40 year olds? Life is short and this is my last chance. If so, where do I begin? How does a guy under my circumstances project an alpha image? HELP!

Online game is first based on good pictures. If you are in good shape you should have good pictures taken of you doing different manly activities - hiking (sometimes without shirt on , shooting range, running, travelling, pic in a smoking or good suit helps (regardless of real financial success), Ivy League degree etc. - everything demonstrating higher value to the female hamster and overcoming thus the initial age limitation.

Another problem is that women expect certain success at that age. If not possible, then complete dominance Game is your beer. They do not encounter that very often among the betasized generations. There are some guys who have become Red-Pill in their mid 50s. I have read comments by one guy who then later moved to South America, because he could game mid-30 women far more easily there. Especially funny are his exploits, where he describes treating demure model-wives as total sluts and fucking their brains out.

I personally have recently encountered a 60-year-old natural Alpha from South Africa. Unfortunately he did not take care of his body that well, which starts to impact his game in the last years. On the other hand he accumulated millons, so that evens out a bit.

There are plenty of good books out on online-game written by younger guys mostly. Frankly I would also recommend becoming a proficient Player at a specialized location like a Dancing or Salsa club. Many women there with men in demand. In my opinion one of the easiest ways to meet women of all ages and worth to learn if you do not know it already.

Post: #6

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  I'm not sure why the term "male feminist" appears after my name.

It's just a rank...more posts you get the better "rank" you have. don't let it bother you, I haven't even looked at mine.

Goodluck man

Post: #7

I hear that if you argue how stupid the ranking system is you can get it changed from male feminist to whatever you like.

Post: #8

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  I'm not sure why the term "male feminist" appears after my name.

It's just a joke about how many posts you have. Pro tip: don't go on a flameout over it or you'll end up with a line through your name.

I'd recommend lurking a lot and reading up especially in the newbie forum. Personally, I think online is a huge crutch, I think you need in person practice. So you teach at a major university, but you're geographically isolated? I don't get it. Anyway, get out and meet people at the university. Doesn't have to be game, work on chicks you don't care about, just for practice. Watch your body language & vocal tone. Work on it until it's second nature. Be outcome independent - it doesn't matter what happens, you're just in the moment. If you suddenly turn out to be attracted to a woman, and she's attracted to you, that's a bonus.

You've also clearly got some self-esteem issues. The way to fix that is to start getting your finances in order, and work on moving out from mom's house. Living with mom is going to be a big deal, but if you're 61, she's got to be in her 80s so you can always frame it like you're taking care of her in her declining years, if anyone asks.

Post: #9

(04-06-2014 10:07 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  I'm not sure why the term "male feminist" appears after my name.

It's just a rank...more posts you get the better "rank" you have. don't let it bother you, I haven't even looked at mine.

Goodluck man

Blackliter is correct.

It is no big deal on this board.

Many new posters have made an issue with it and created negativity over it. No one really cares.

What really matters, is just continuing to grow. I think you can find a lot of support here and am sure you have lots to share.

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  How does a guy under my circumstances project an alpha image?

A lot of reading and searching on this forum.

A few thoughts come to mind:
"You are the man, it is your world"
"There is more than one piece of vagina - don't get oneitis"
"Keep control, never let a woman lead"
"Think of women as big kids"
"It is a game, women are for your entertainment"
"Have fun"

They are sort of related. There is a lot more out there just my first thoughts. Plenty of discussion of clothing, weight, working out, style, etc on this forum. Just search around.

Welcome and to your success.

Post: #10

(04-07-2014 11:24 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:07 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  I'm not sure why the term "male feminist" appears after my name.

It's just a rank...more posts you get the better "rank" you have. don't let it bother you, I haven't even looked at mine.

Goodluck man

Blackliter is correct.

It is no big deal on this board.

Many new posters have made an issue with it and created negativity over it. No one really cares.

What really matters, is just continuing to grow. I think you can find a lot of support here and am sure you have lots to share.

(04-06-2014 10:05 AM)TPD Wrote:  How does a guy under my circumstances project an alpha image?

A lot of reading and searching on this forum.

A few thoughts come to mind:
"You are the man, it is your world"
"There is more than one piece of vagina - don't get oneitis"
"Keep control, never let a woman lead"
"Think of women as big kids"
"It is a game, women are for your entertainment"
"Have fun"

They are sort of related. There is a lot more out there just my first thoughts. Plenty of discussion of clothing, weight, working out, style, etc on this forum. Just search around.

Welcome and to your success.

I can already see that there's a lot of support here.