Post: #1

Would you rather be wealthy and white-collar employed in DC or in your home town even if the social scene sucks and you are bored as hell or would you consider giving up some conforts of your current lifestyle to be able to move to a better place,or to be location independent?

We have Roosh's example who quit his corporate job to invest in another path of life.

If you are a stressed and bored financial analyst in DC would you rather go to Miami/LA or Anywhere in Europe/SA/Asia to be bartender or in a low status job in the start ?


I'm still try to figure it out. I'll leave my current job this week , travel and try to find out what works best for me.

Post: #2

Stay at corporate/legal/medical/whatever drone job for a while (long enough for me to move up the ranks and seize a good six-figure+ income if possible), save my money, retire early, and live overseas, taking my skills/experience with me to work over there if possible and keep a steady income.

That would be my personal choice, but then again I'm inherently risk averse and rather nerdy (read: I excel in and enjoy being in academic/work environments). That's just me.

Post: #3

I think it depends on what the individual wants out of life. Like for me I wouldnt have much desire to go to Colombia when im 50. No young chicks are gonna truly be attracted to you and they will just try to suck money out of you. Not to mention I would be to old to enjoy the dance clubs ect. This isnt even taking into account id prob be married and have kids.

So for me, I have no desire to do what I do now when im older as i will have other priorities to attend to. My time is NOW to do the shit I want to do.

If you are the type person that feels like he needs the big house, nice cars, vacation homes, ect than you would need to focus on career. But if you are fine with having an average home, average car ect than you can live alot more free'r life without those financial burdens hanging overhead.

Personally Id much rather be like a teacher and have 3 months off a year to travel and do what I want. You need to live within ur means and be saving money every month but that wont be hard for someone with self control and common sense.

It all just comes down to personal expectations and preferences.

Post: #4

Definitely move somewhere where you can have a happier lifestyle regardless of how much money you'll make. Money doesn't often make people happy.

Post: #5

Living standard is one component of happiness. If that's great but everything else is shit then you won't be happy.

I rather live in a favela in Rio surrounded by women and culture I like then live in a luxury DC condo in Georgetown.

Post: #6

I think it's a balance. You can still vacation while working. Right?

Post: #7

Quote:I rather live in a favela in Rio surrounded by women and culture I like then live in a luxury DC condo in Georgetown.

Too true, if I had the choice of favela in Rio living modestly or being rich and living in a nice house at 'home', I'd take the favela in Rio everytime because I simply don't like things too much round here. Having a shit load of money wouldn't make me enjoy this place anymore.

Post: #8

It would be an amusing cultural phenomena to see an influx of gringos living in Rio' s favelas... you guys might start a movement, you know?

And you might be well off... I've seen amazingly hot girls in favelas (not all)! I'm talking about 9s even.

Post: #9

(06-26-2011 09:30 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  It would be an amusing cultural phenomena to see an influx of gringos living in Rio' s favelas... you guys might start a movement, you know?

And you might be well off... I've seen amazingly hot girls in favelas (not all)! I'm talking about 9s even.

After watching this:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7...ncol;lst;4

I'm going to look for work in Brasil. It wouldn't pay what I make now but the quality of life has to be better. You guys have made Brasil an easy sell. I have a diverse technical background that might be needed down there.

Post: #10

There's already plenty of gringos living in the favelas in Rio, a tour guide for Rochina (South Americas largest favela) told me there were several hundred living just in that one.

Post: #11

(06-26-2011 10:08 AM)Gringo Wrote:  There's already plenty of gringos living in the favelas in Rio, a tour guide for Rochina (South Americas largest favela) told me there were several hundred living just in that one.

Add me on the favela list. As long as I have food and a clean apartment then I am more than happy.

I feel like I am dying a slow death in Canada! Having to listen to co-workers argue over which phone is better (blackberry or iphone).
Going to the mall watching people buy stupid stuff that will make them "happy".
Listening to dudes talking about there "rides" but complain how they cannot meet women. Some younger guys I know spend silly money on there cars, on average they will spend easily over $5000 dollars on stupid upgrades. But these same guys will come up with a 1000 excuses to spend money on a holiday that is NOT an all inclusive resort.
Sorry rant over

Post: #12

(06-26-2011 10:08 AM)Gringo Wrote:  There's already plenty of gringos living in the favelas in Rio, a tour guide for Rochina (South Americas largest favela) told me there were several hundred living just in that one.

Wow, I didn't know this. Not that I go to favelas much, but I have friends and acquaintances in both Rocinha and Vidigal, and I see some gringos there, but I thought that they'd be visitors, not "locals".

Concerning the video, Eike Batista is buying the whole city. Its scary, usually the uber-rich (the man is ranked 8th or so richest man in the globe) tend to stay in São Paulo's Morumbi neighbourhood, but this guy is a common sight in Rio. My wingman actually saw him eating french fries in a gas station next to where he lives!

Yeah, there is a demand for especialized work force here (or so I hear, I am far from the expert), but the whole scene here is changing, and fast! Rio (Brazil as a whole?) is getting insanely expensive. That is probably a reason for the gringos being pushed to live in favelas on the first place...

And ironically enough, there is this major outflux of brazilians to deemed "first world countries", and a common destination is Canada! I have this couple who are close friends of mine, who went for good to Montreal, and are loving it. I want to know the place, maybe one day I'm off to the same destination. I'm an artist and a psychologist, extremely undervalued "professions" here where I live. Maybe my trade is better off somewhere else.

But yeah, egineers and the type are in high demand over these lands...

Post: #13

(06-26-2011 08:07 AM)Pete Wrote:  And ironically enough, there is this major outflux of brazilians to deemed "first world countries", and a common destination is Canada!

But yeah, egineers and the type are in high demand over these lands...

Yep,this is true.I have a friend at work who is leaving Brazil in August ,he has put tons of money to get some sort of high skilled worker visa and is leaving everything behind to achieve his dream of living in Vancouver,CA.

He went there 3 times before and loved the country,the people and believe me, the women!He said he feels that in Canada quality of life is better and you have more time to enjoy the small things in life.Funny huh?

*And this is a good looking young guy who has sucess with the ladies and a good position in my company (Big Pharma Company)
So he is not leaving because of money reasons, he actually thinks that life is better there.

Post: #14

Quote:I feel like I am dying a slow death in Canada! Having to listen to co-workers argue over which phone is better (blackberry or iphone).
Going to the mall watching people buy stupid stuff that will make them "happy".
Listening to dudes talking about there "rides" but complain how they cannot meet women. Some younger guys I know spend silly money on there cars, on average they will spend easily over $5000 dollars on stupid upgrades. But these same guys will come up with a 1000 excuses to spend money on a holiday that is NOT an all inclusive resort.

I know the feeling, I'm back in my 'home' town for the first time in years, I moved away when I went to uni and never came back but I can't afford to live where I would choose to live right now and have no money for travelling either so find myself stuck back here. The people here seems the polar opposite to me, all concerned with 'things', no interest in life outside this shitty town, no outlook on the wider aspects of life and no desire to travel or see / do new things. All my friends are still doing the same old same old, which is part of the reason I left here in the first place nothing ever changes. Depressing really.

Post: #15

(06-26-2011 12:33 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(06-26-2011 08:07 AM)Pete Wrote:  And ironically enough, there is this major outflux of brazilians to deemed "first world countries", and a common destination is Canada!

But yeah, egineers and the type are in high demand over these lands...

Yep,this is true.I have a friend at work who is leaving Brazil in August ,he has put tons of money to get some sort of high skilled worker visa and is leaving everything behind to achieve his dream of living in Vancouver,CA.

He went there 3 times before and loved the country,the people and believe me, the women!He said he feels that in Canada quality of life is better and you have more time to enjoy the small things in life.Funny huh?

It seems everyone takes for granted the good things where they live ie safety and infrastructure say in Canada and take notice of what is lacking elsewhere ie women and beaches of brazil

In other words, grass always greener....

*And this is a good looking young guy who has sucess with the ladies and a good position in my company (Big Pharma Company)
So he is not leaving because of money reasons, he actually thinks that life is better there.

Post: #16

For a lifestyle full of good culture, women and happiness, I would easily live "below standard". I don't need much, and I adapt easily. Fortunately for me, any places that I might migrate to for improvement in those would also mean an improvement in the living standard, since my country has a ton of economic problems.

Post: #17

(06-26-2011 01:47 AM)Dash Global Wrote:  I wouldnt have much desire to go to Colombia when im 50. No young chicks are gonna truly be attracted to you and they will just try to suck money out of you.
It all just comes down to personal expectations and preferences.

In many cases you would be right, but you underestimate the perversity of women. At 50 I was banging a 25 year old American who I was able to drive absolutely nuts. She never asked for a dime. I don't know the percentage, but there are 3-12% wild ass guess of girls who want to figuratively bang their daddy. And call you Daddy while she gets it. She commented " You know I'm just talking about the archetype, right?" Smart AND perverse. Yum.

I am somewhat young looking, (genetics), she flattered that I could easily pass for 38.

Post: #18

Yes and No. Well one thing is that im going through that stage now, but when you say lower your job status, than for me it is a no.

I have moved from a first world country to a third world country recently in order to explore a country that is growing fast and shows a lot of business and job opportunities. My quality of life has decreased but my financial side will continually improve in the long run, but i guess my situation is different from yours, you are seeking fun, i am seeking money(and im always having fun on the side, did it all my life)

Anyway, if i was you, i wouldnt leave sao paulo to go to Miami and work as a bartender. There are many jobs around Brazil that will allow you to work 6 months and get other 6 months to do nothing but travel if you feel like. It´s about finding a job that will complete our lifestyle. You dont want to go to Miami and live in a small income. Being in Miami and making 1200 dollars a month, wont give you a great lifestyle, im looking to combine both in the long run, making money, fucking bitches and living a great lifestyle.

Try get one month off your work place, travel a bit and then see if you would like live in those countries with less income than what you getting now.

Anyway your english is perfect, if you write the way you speak, you wouldnt have much problems finding a job anywhere in the world, and i mean a good one, so probably moving overseas wouldnt be that bad for you.

My style is mob (money over bitches) all day.

Post: #19

(06-26-2011 12:31 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  Would you rather be wealthy and white-collar employed in DC or in your home town even if the social scene sucks and you are bored as hell or would you consider giving up some conforts of your current lifestyle to be able to move to a better place,or to be location independent?

We have Roosh's example who quit his corporate job to invest in another path of life.

If you are a stressed and bored financial analyst in DC would you rather go to Miami/LA or Anywhere in Europe/SA/Asia to be bartender or in a low status job in the start ?


I'm still try to figure it out. I'll leave my current job this week , travel and try to find out what works best for me.

I hate to make this my first post, but its too germane to my current situation to ignore.

I currently live in DC and I have the ability to "telework", which means I can do any and everything from home. The beauty of it is that "home" can mean anywhere in the US.

I can understand coworkers in the same position who are married or who have already taken an extremely pricey DC mortgage out forgoing the opportunity, but WOW, what an opportunity! My sights are currently set on Miami:

1) One of my best friends lives there 2) The women are top notch (attractiveness), only Austin TX is comparable 3) I like hot weather/beaches 4) The renting is less pricey than DC 5) If I decide I like the place, and condo market hits rock bottom, I can get sooooo much more for my money than in DC.

I'm also considering places like: Atlanta, San Diego, and Austin. But luckily for me, once I make the move its not permanent.

More on point to the discussion, I originally planned on segueing from my current government job to law school (to become a patent attorney), but I agree that money is certainly not everything. I could stick around DC, and in ten years (after three years of law school) make upwards of 200-250k, however I think I'd be miserable, working 60 hours a week constantly trying to one-up others for a partner position.

My current career ceiling tops out at about 150k (and not too far away), but you can't put a price on working from home and flexible reasonable hours. Wanna take a break? Go lay out on SoBe for a few hours.

Its true that I'll never own a yacht or a Ferrari making 100k-150k the rest of my career, but as I've grown older, I don't think having that stuff is worth it, at least not to me.

Lastly, being a Federal Employee sounds 100x cooler in Miami than DC, if the girls know what a Federal Employee is.

Post: #20

I wish I had the location independent lifestyle on the go it really would work for me but I'm not exactly sure of what I could get into that would allow me to do it.

Post: #21

_DC_ -

"I currently live in DC and I have the ability to "telework", which means I can do any and everything from home. The beauty of it is that "home" can mean anywhere in the US. "

Why sell yourself short?

Doesn't "home" then mean anywhere in the world?

Post: #22

I don't miss anything about tedious white-collar employment in the US. I was bored out of my mind. I haven't regretted a thing since moving to Colombia.

It all depends on your personality. What's good for me may not be good for you, and there are some gringos here who can't handle stuff like the lack of good customer service, less infrastructure, fewer creature comforts, etc. Also, getting yourself established in another country, especially one where English isn't spoken widely, is a challenge. You are at the bottom of a ladder unless some company or the government pays you to work for them somewhere else, and ain't that hard to pull off.

It's what you make of it. You shouldn't have any illusions though, you're gonna be slogging through some situations with low pay and communication barriers. It feels like a huge accomplishment when you start making progress though.

And look at it this way, you can always go back to being a white collar schlub if things don't work out.

Post: #23

(06-28-2011 03:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  _DC_ -

"I currently live in DC and I have the ability to "telework", which means I can do any and everything from home. The beauty of it is that "home" can mean anywhere in the US. "

Why sell yourself short?

Doesn't "home" then mean anywhere in the world?

It's restricted to the US. I can't complain. Not sure about U.S. Territories.

Post: #24

(06-26-2011 12:31 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  Would you rather be wealthy and white-collar employed in DC or in your home town even if the social scene sucks and you are bored as hell or would you consider giving up some conforts of your current lifestyle to be able to move to a better place,or to be location independent?

I am considering leaving Norway...I'm so bored of my daily routines, my job, seeing the same fucking people, waiting for the weekend to come so we can get wasted..go to job and wait for friday so I can do the same stupid shit all over again!
Everyday boredom and routines kills my life staying here! It's the middle of the summer, and we have had rain for over two weeks straight now!
I have a steady good job I would say, been with the same company for over 11 years now...I like my work, but I am not "hungry" as I used to be! Right now im feeling im on a standstill! I need changes...something more fullfilling!

I could rent my apartment, and just move....if it dosent work out, I can always come back right!
hmmmmmm......

Mr. G have you figured out what to do?


-rdp

Post: #25

(06-28-2011 07:14 PM)_DC_ Wrote:  

(06-28-2011 03:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  _DC_ -

"I currently live in DC and I have the ability to "telework", which means I can do any and everything from home. The beauty of it is that "home" can mean anywhere in the US. "

Why sell yourself short?

Doesn't "home" then mean anywhere in the world?

It's restricted to the US. I can't complain. Not sure about U.S. Territories.

Out of curiosity, restricted by technology or restricted by company rules.

Because if it is by company rules, you might be able to just work from a foreign country, and they may be none the wiser.