Post: #1

The other day I was joking around at the gym with a mate bagging online dating, when this chick we know hopped in and corrected us.

"Online dating is no joke. I used it extensively before meeting my current BF here at the gym."

She's a mid-20 blonde, a 6 face / 7 body. Her BF works in med, makes tons of money, and they appear to be heading towards marriage soon.

Not interested in arguing with a woman, I asked "Oh really, tell us more?", not expecting much.

She actually took the bait and told us all about her Game plan. She knew a couple of years ago that she wanted to get married by 25~27, to a guy who makes decent money and who's into X, Y and Z. So she profiled him, her catch, to see where she could meet a guy like that, and off she went. One thing she wanted was that he must be athletic, so she signed herself up to lots of athletic pursuits: gyms, sport clubs, Tough Mudder runs etc. She made herself available in the company of the types of men she liked, handled the logistics half way to make it "easy" for them to run into her, and eventually she trapped one.

I was fascinated because the way she went about it is identical to how I - or many red pill guys - would organise my hobbies and routines (e.g going shopping at organic stores to meet fit girls) to be in close proximity to our targets, for the hunt. I was even more fascinated because how rare it is for a Western girl that age to have such a clear and solid plan. Usually I only see this degree of planning from older women who have already hit the Wall or about to, and it's way too late for them anyway. Young girls I know who do something like this are all foreign, traditional and living in patriarchal countries. This chick will do very well, I see no cats in her future, just a very comfy life. Girls in this country typically wander in lala land for all of their youth and only wake up when they crash into the Wall with no plan for the future, only the expectation that someone will bail them out.

How often do you run into a girl like that, out of curiosity?

Post: #2

All the time. Women are known for being conniving. In fact you can say all of them.

Post: #3

Here's an effective game plan for all females:

1) Don't be fat
2) Show up

Some women are so entitled though that ignore one or both of the steps at their own peril. They still get sex, but it's not with the men that they really want.

Post: #4

Don't want to undermine you, but a lot of girls, even ones in their 20's, have a similar plan.

I know several girls who do drugs and have sex with random dudes who are pretty open about the fact that they plan on landing a doctor.

Most girls, especially hot ones, know there value. No girl brings more than $10 to the bar and no girl lacks a fall back plan of marriage.

I wouldn't be surprised if 40% of marriages are shames where the girl set up the whole thing.

Post: #5

Yeah I know that for short term stuff - getting a night out for free, banging that hot guy while getting sponsored by clueless betas, they are calculating foxes.

However, I meant actually planning for the long term. Saying that they plan to land a doctor one day for marriage and actually putting in the plan to do so are different things. I hear the former, and I think of a little kid who says "I wanna be astronaut!"

Quote:no girl lacks a fall back plan of marriage

With the increasing loud cry of "where have all the good men gone?" and the numerous involuntary spinsters - incl formerly hot ones - I observe in my SWPL city, I'm not sure if I can agree with that.

Post: #6

90% of 20+yo girls have those kinds of plans. As soon as they see what will get them comfortable lives they put effort into meeting and analyzing those types of men and what they like. It's nothing wrong most of the times, but there are some cases of extreme fakers who ruin their man's life.

Post: #7

Good observation. I'd agree with some of the above posters, that 99% of chicks have this plan, but very few actually take action like the girl in your story.

This is bit of modern twist on the old school plan that grandmothers used to follow, by showing up to places where men gather.

I still find this kind of thinking ultimately dangerous in their aggregate, given how much power women already have in dating.

Post: #8

This is what women have been doing for ages. Only until recently have women been forced to do this themselves.

Society used to take care of this for women. The idea of a debutante or coming out or what have you. Throw a bunch of eligible bachelors of around age 30 in a ballroom with girls just fresh 17 or 18 and let nature take its course.


At the moment I have one girlfriend in the later stages of her game plan. It really is fascinating to see how women change when they see a potential windfall ahead. From hipster to heels in a few days.

Post: #9

I observed this with chicks from college. When I explain this phenomenon to people, I refer to it as "the white girl plan". Though it is certainly not indicative of all (and probably not even most) white girls, it applied to the ones from my university. Now keep in mind that this would be less likely to work at a small college where everyone knows your business. However, on a large university campus like I attended, there's not much need to worry about reputation, unless your exploits are immortalized on the internet (i.e., the Duke porn girl).

During freshman and sophomore years, followers of "the plan" would make sure they got in enough wild partying and lewd behavior to last a lifetime. Some of these antics included flashing tits at parties, sucking dick in public, and fucking as many frat guys and athletes as their pussies could take. Then, around junior year, they'd start to calm down and look for a guy to lock down. Usually this would be a relatively good-looking beta guy with a promising career ahead of him. It's almost never a guy with a bullshit major either. By the time they graduated, they have been in a committed relationship. If executed properly, this plan yields a marriage within a few years after graduation. I have seen it done multiple times. My facebook feed is a testament to this plan. So many of these chicks I went to college with are married now (I'm 26), and I can't help but think of how slutty they were.

Post: #10

(03-10-2014 01:01 PM)YaManBT Wrote:  I observed this with chicks from college. When I explain this phenomenon to people, I refer to it as "the white girl plan". Though it is certainly not indicative of all (and probably not even most) white girls, it applied to the ones from my university. Now keep in mind that this would be less likely to work at a small college where everyone knows your business. However, on a large university campus like I attended, there's not much need to worry about reputation, unless your exploits are immortalized on the internet (i.e., the Duke porn girl).

During freshman and sophomore years, followers of "the plan" would make sure they got in enough wild partying and lewd behavior to last a lifetime. Some of these antics included flashing tits at parties, sucking dick in public, and fucking as many frat guys and athletes as their pussies could take. Then, around junior year, they'd start to calm down and look for a guy to lock down. Usually this would be a relatively good-looking beta guy with a promising career ahead of him. It's almost never a guy with a bullshit major either. By the time they graduated, they have been in a committed relationship. If executed properly, this plan yields a marriage within a few years after graduation. I have seen it done multiple times. My facebook feed is a testament to this plan. So many of these chicks I went to college with are married now (I'm 26), and I can't help but think of how slutty they were.

Mysteriously, most of my friends (all to be engineers in the near future) have been locked down in the recent months.

Post: #11

(03-09-2014 11:11 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  Here's an effective game plan for all females:

1) Don't be fat
2) Show up

The really sad part is that this is too difficult for maybe 60% of women in the USA right now.

Post: #12

...I'll be sure not fall into one of those traps thanks to this site. I'm exactly one of those types women would love to keep as a beta boyfriend...

Post: #13

I recently spoke to person who had spent a couple years in NYC . She said there are a lot of these party girls, totally poor, multiple girls to a crappy apartment, all sharing clothes, etc. They go out hoping to hook someone. It sounded like they had very little money (not sue how they even survive) because their goal is to go out every night and meet someone.

Anyone know if that is true or can confirm? Maybe it is obvious, I guess I am pretty naive I found it a bit random. Seems like a crazy life.

Post: #14

(03-10-2014 08:02 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  I recently spoke to person who had spent a couple years in NYC . She said there are a lot of these party girls, totally poor, multiple girls to a crappy apartment, all sharing clothes, etc. They go out hoping to hook someone. It sounded like they had very little money (not sue how they even survive) because their goal is to go out every night and meet someone.

Anyone know if that is true or can confirm? Maybe it is obvious, I guess I am pretty naive I found it a bit random. Seems like a crazy life.

Soup? Hell, he has probably banged 80% of them. Bread & Butter or what have you.

Post: #15

(03-09-2014 11:11 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  Here's an effective game plan for all females:

1) Don't be fat
2) Show up

Some women are so entitled though that ignore one or both of the steps at their own peril. They still get sex, but it's not with the men that they really want.

I would add...

3) Be feminine

Post: #16

(03-10-2014 08:02 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  I recently spoke to person who had spent a couple years in NYC . She said there are a lot of these party girls, totally poor, multiple girls to a crappy apartment, all sharing clothes, etc. They go out hoping to hook someone. It sounded like they had very little money (not sue how they even survive) because their goal is to go out every night and meet someone.

Anyone know if that is true or can confirm? Maybe it is obvious, I guess I am pretty naive I found it a bit random. Seems like a crazy life.

I live in NY and there's tons of girls like that, but from my experience they're not looking for boyfriends or trying to trap some beta. If they go out a lot they're looking for sex and will mock you if you try to do boyfriend things. NY is a lot different than my home state of AZ in that sense. AZ girls are sluts but they're ashamed by it, while NY girls tend to be less slutty because they have college and careers to focus on but at the same time they admit that they don't want boyfriends.

Then again I'm in my early 20s and go to cheap bars where the girls aren't older than 26. Maybe it's different when you're in your late 20s and 30s.