Post: #1

Girl posts this link of a guy putting on leggings and baiting other men into staring at his ass in order to show "how hard everyday life is for women."

I responded to her link saying it's a completely natural reaction, and if you want to minimize unsolicited male attention, not wearing yoga pants would help. I immediately get ganged up on by two girls and a Facebook war ensues. Eventually this guy (who is unfortunately one of my closest friends from high school) posts the following comment trying to make me look bad. I'm really pissed off and want to own him...I'm new to the manosphere and need material from seasoned and intelligent vets. How would you guys respond to this?

Quote:Omi O'Mai For some perspective, I had an interesting final for Feminist Theories in college. My project involved recording original music and making a music video of the process; I dressed as I normally would for some parts, but I recorded some parts dressed and made-up as a woman. My schedule worked out in such a way that I had to go to class with my hair still straightened, my makeup still on (I flinched a lot so my eyeliner was Ke$ha Central), and my ex's flares still making my ass look so amazing that she (and her mother) demanded that I keep them. While this was not my intention, I gleefully seized the opportunity to experience a SUBMICROSCOPICTINYNOTEVENCLOSE piece of what it would be like to walk around as a woman.

Holy. Fuck. Never. Again. I got so many ridiculous cat calls and ass slaps and blatant SCARY propositions for sex ("baby if dey cops wasnt dere id take u home wid me right now mmHMM")...before I had even walked ONE CITY BLOCK. Needless to say, I felt The Male Gaze all day to the extent that it was literally always in the foreground of my mind. Sure, I knew that it happened and expected maybe a couple of guys to be momentarily confused, but no cisgendered male can POSSIBLY imagine the pervasiveness of this experience without walking around in it for a hot minute.

I did not dress that way to fool men...hell, I had no intention of walking out the door looking like that. It was only my hectic schedule that necessitated such a thing. This is the same for plenty of women. There are millions of reasons for wearing something at a particular time, and attracting The Male Gaze is just ONE reason that is on the fucking backburner most of the time. Sometimes, a woman wants to be comfortable, and sometimes that comfy thing happens to make her ass look ridiculously awesome. Sometimes, a woman has no time to get changed because she has, you know, A LIFE. Sometimes, a woman likes how her ass looks but doesn't want to be reminded of it by every engorged penis on the street.

Yes, the initial look is an instinctive thing of sorts. You notice. It happens. It's whatever...as long as it ends there. There is no need or excuse for excessive staring MUCH less catcalling or any other form of harrassment. The proper term for catcalling, by the way, is STREET HARRASSMENT. As Carrie Anne pointed out, a woman can look like The Queen of Frumpiness and still get this treatment; before anybody cries #hotgirlproblems, this shit happens to women across the aesthetic spectrum...actually, across ALL spectra. I dare someone to go to a Take Back The Night or Slutwalk or some other gathering of survivors and even TRY to generalize. You can't do it.

As I say in my response to an OkCupid question regarding leg shaving, "Go home, patriarchy. You're drunk."

Post: #2

Look, why don't you head over to the lifestyle forum and learn something instead of asking how to "own" people on Facebook. It'd be a more productive use of your time. If you must, simply call him "gay" and get on with your day.

Post: #3

tldr

Post: #4

You should just troll him. "Not to worry, unwanted male attention is nothing 10 years, a shitty pixie haircut, and 50 boxes of doublestuff oreos can't solve."

Post: #5

My response would turn the usual feminist phrase against him: "I still don't see how anyone was actually victimized. Man up and stop caring about what people think of you."

That said, it is completely pointless to argue with fanatics on FB. Their response will always be the same bullshit no matter the quality of your argument. Even if you corner them, they'll just say "of course you're saying that, you're a cis-heteronormative-patriarchal-colinizing man". Don't bother.

Post: #6

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw

Post: #7

dads suggestion is a good one. Once you gain enough knowledge about what it means be masculine and what it means to be feminine than you will always know what to say, if you want.

However it's been said that discretion is often the better part of valor. Choose your battles wisely and remember, when you throw mud your hands get dirty as well.

Post: #8

Get off Facebook.

Get off Facebook.

Get off Facebook.

Suspend your account for 2 months and put all of the FB time into something productive.

Then report back.

I guarantee you'll have gotten more done that's productive to YOU, instead of arguing with mindless drones who spend their days posting photos of their Wendy's salads and updates on "How no one appreciates them!".

I have yet to meet a successful man in business or LIFE who is on FB.

The only FB I have is a Fan Page for my books which only gets updated with blog posts links. My productivity levels shot up 1,000x when I got off FB.

Post: #9

Why are you even friends with someone who took a feminist class and dressed up as woman. Don't get me wrong, I love my friends, but that would not fly.

Post: #10

I would simply say…

I have no interest in attention whoring on Facebook the way you did walking around in drag, and given the politically correct reaction is indeed yours, a response is pointless. I'll just leave you with this:





*and yes, get off FB.

Post: #11

(03-05-2014 05:44 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  Get off Facebook.

Get off Facebook.

Get off Facebook.

Suspend your account forever

Post: #12

How bout this....

"Duuuuuuuuude.."

That should shut him up real quick

Post: #13

just reply back with this

or

Post: #14

Saw that video, it was pretty hilarious.

Post: #15

Assuming you're not a troll, your friend is a faggot in denial. Just like those "I need feminism so I can feel good about my gf fucking me with a strapon" sissies.

Post: #16

(03-05-2014 05:52 PM)Snowplow Wrote:  Why are you even friends with someone who took a feminist class and dressed up as woman. Don't get me wrong, I love my friends, but that would not fly.

This.

None of my friends would ever even considering doing that homo shit. And if they did, we would still be ridiculing them about it to this very day, 10 years later.

Post: #17

Does nobody see the obvious attempt at the white knight trying to get pussy by defending women i.e Feminist Theories

Woulda called him out on that and told him that's a pathetic attempt to get into girl's pants.

Post: #18

(03-06-2014 09:52 AM)CarCrashKid Wrote:  Does nobody see the obvious attempt at the white knight trying to get pussy by defending women i.e Feminist Theories

Woulda called him out on that and told him that's a pathetic attempt to get into girl's pants.

Best idea of them all besides just getting off facebook.

Post: #19

Troll his Facebook as a feminist that wants him .. Once you have him hooked send him a picture of a strap-on and ask if you can ass fuck him just once .. Reveal yourself and yes then get off of Facebook ..

Post: #20

Just charge it to the Game and let that friend go!! As per Mr McQueen suggested just drop off Facebook for a while and go read the archive of Return Of Kings. You mentioned that you're brand new to the manosphere there's no need to throw the gauntlet at you. Once you'll be experienced the right things to say will simply come out of you without thinking. Reed ROK carefully to reach that level.

Just keep in mind that by taking this Red Pill you will feel angry sometimes by seeing all these Betas worshipping women to get them while you'll sniff within 2 seconds that he'll just end up in the you buy me dinner and we hang out friendzone!!

Just keep your mouth shut and set up your life on all aspect to have a fantastic life. OH... and don't ever speak to that "friend again" If you can't avoid him, just talk to him about common stuff, never about women!!!