By the way -- whoever is going to defend Roosh needs to know about all the fake Facebook, Twitter etc accounts Andre was setting up falsely accusing Roosh of various crimes, and all the other disinformation he was spreading about him. I hope all this stuff is cached online. It's evidence that this guy had a long-standing psychotic obsession with Roosh and can potentially be crucial to the case.

(03-02-2014 02:52 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Rutting Elephant - This has zero to do with any of that. It seems like some of you guys are not even reading the updates or able to digest information to update your thinking.

Yeah, sorry. Recent tough-guy forum flameouts don't reflect on Roosh himself, of course. This Gypsy guy must really have fucked with / framed him.

What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

Ok, everyone take a deep breath. What do we know?

1. Roosh is detained by the Polish authorities
2. He appears not to need medical attention
3. The charges against him may result in some time in jail/prison.

So the task at hand is to get competent legal representation to him ASAP.

Let's talk solutions:
Anyone have connections (legal or at least linguistic/cultural familiarity) on the ground?

What is the best method to collect/store funds?

What other resources do forum members have that could be used to get a lawyer to him?

In addition to sending money, I have about 120k miles through United/Star Alliance that I am willing to donate.

It's important not to get caught up on speculation about what may happen to the forum, who the other party was, etc. Focus on the task at hand and let the situation develop.

Any other ideas?

Now, while keeping this forum up so we can hang out and BS here is not as important as Roosh's well-being, I have done a bit of research about the "how long the forum will still be around" question. Should this, heaven forbid, be a long term problem, the forum should run fine for a few months, but there will be no new users until this is sorted out:

• It appears that the rooshvforum server is completely managed, which means that someone will keep the system up to date with regard to security bugs and what not for as long as the account is active.
• It is not possible to post with new accounts; while I was able to create a test account ("delete_this_account"), the account will not be able to make postings until someone activates it (please don't activate it). With MyBB, moderators can not activate accounts -- only the admin (unless Roosh added the "Activate Users from Mod CP" plugin)
• MyBB fairly frequently needs to be updated (about every two to three months). The forum will still run fine without being updated, but MyBB has a history of a fairly large number of security holes found in it which should be plugged up.
• The rooshvforum.com domain will not expire until 2015. The forum will almost certainly be shut down for non-payment of hosting fees before then (if Roosh doesn't make bail or however that's done in Poland and get out within a week, someone should call the hosting company to see if they will accept a third-party payment for hosting renewal)
  

To answer another question:

Quote:What's the story with this gypsy?

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-32570.html

(03-02-2014 02:57 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-32570.html

(03-02-2014 02:52 PM)Fisto Wrote:  Any sort of cut that has bleeding will be called "serious" and he'll most likely have the medium to high range charge thrown at him initially since that can always be reduced.

I've glanced at the Polish Criminal Code, although I'm not sure how accurate the translation is. It's actually somewhat similar in content to the assault statute in the state in which I practice, although the organization of the statute is really awful. Any injury which lasts for seven days, or any injury more serious than that, carries from several months to several years in jail. Roosh needs the best local Wroclaw lawyer he can possibly find.

I missed the boat on the original Paul/Andre topic so went back and read it. Jesus. Complete scum & stain on society.

Hoping this gets sorted out quickly and cleanly, poor Roosh... this is so fucked up.

(03-02-2014 02:57 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

Apparently they hung out in person a few times until he got too clingy and Roosh stopped talking to him and then found out that he was cockblocking him on Facebook and messaging girls Roosh was seeing behind his back. Feel free to correct me but that was my understanding of the issue.

Oh, and they also had a confrontation a few days ago but nothing happened and this guy also had a few twitter and facebook accounts designed to trash Roosh.

How about everyone stops speculating and we wait what the real situation is? (The only good advice so far is that he needs a lawyer)

I hope that if he's getting charged, that he at least beat the piss out of that guy.

But seriously, anyone have connections in Poland that could help?

#freeroosh

should this thread / post be put in other areas of the forum

I live in roosh's hometown of silver springs / rockville if that is helpful

Keep ya head up Roosh. Don't sweat it. Use the time to catch up on sleep and reading.

(03-02-2014 02:46 PM)Walter White Wrote:  He seemed OK in the picture.

I think the picture is from a museum in Berlin, as a few others have pointed out. That's not to say he hasn't been arrested though, the pic is a bit iffy though. I don't know why whoever sent it to Tuth would use it....

(03-02-2014 03:04 PM)toeknee Wrote:  should this thread / post be put in other areas of the forum

I live in roosh's hometown of silver springs / rockville if that is helpful

If you really live in Silver Spring, I'm pretty sure you would know the name of the town doesn't have an "s" on the end of it.

(03-02-2014 03:03 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  I hope that if he's getting charged, that he at least beat the piss out of that guy.

But seriously, anyone have connections in Poland that could help?

#freeroosh

Yes I hope Roosh got some Gypsy Tears as a trophy at least.

I would really appreciate it if you guys would stop speculating about the veracity of the goddamn picture or the color of his t-shirt or the expression on his face and realize that this is a serious situation.

Not everything is your personal soap opera.

New details:

• The Polish equivalent of bail is being withheld from Roosh
• He's either appeared or is about to appear before a magistrate to receive formal charges (how this works was unclear from the message)
• It looks like "he's going to be in there for a while"
  

Holy shit.

I know a lot of you have questions about the forum and its on-going administration. Stay tuned for a formal announcement from me about this.

Damn. I'll help how I can.

Tuthmosis,

Let us know what you need. I imagine it will be bail money and a retainer.

Everyone else, voicing your support is one of the best things you can do. I've been there and I know that seeing your friends have your back is an uplifting feeling.

What's not helpful is bullshit speculation or comments that take the focus away from the situation at hand.

I'll keep checking in, I leave for Cuba tomorrow and I don't know if I'll be able to get to online or what.

Edit - Fuck I just saw your last post.

Damn this is not good news. I wish some of the Polish guys would chime in. I think it is only 9 or 10 in Poland.

Tuth let us know about where to send resources when possible.

(03-02-2014 03:08 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Damn. I'll help how I can.

The idea of a legal PayPal fund has been mentioned. I wonder the rules for Polish jail as far as sending an inmate packages.

Books? I am sure the food there sucks... some non-perishables might be good.

Roosh is tough as nails. I doubt they will give him much time unless they are pressing attempted murder.

Any details from the media over there?

I'll help however I can. Let us know what can be done Tuth. While I can't condone violence there's undoubtedly more to this story than Roosh just attacking someone.

Keep us posted Tuthmosis, hopefully everything is not as bad as it looks.

And if anything, this could be research for a new book "bang: prison"