Post: #51

(11-29-2013 08:36 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ... she knew her soul was being crushed as she rode so many guys) I really am reminded how brutal it is for American women.

don't quite follow... she said her soul is crushed, admitting she can't bond but is proud of it? It sounds like saying "I got beaten up until my face looks like a pizza, I'm so beautiful"

What this sounds like is passive aggressive complaining that she can't get commitment from the guys she wants connection with, so she pretends she can't feel any more..? Is's sour grapes on finding love. She's full of it, prob doesn't even realize it.

Post: #52

Exactly IKE.

She is a contradiction. Even though she is very smart for a girl she cannot use reasoning to see the big picture. This is what gave me the creeps haha. She knows what broke her, yet promotes it, it is sick! Like I said she is very intelligent yet cannot see her own folly.

Anyways back to business....

Well it is Thanksgiving weekend, seems like a lot of the poon is out of town with family. Hit the grocery store today, nada.

Tonight was a terrible sausage fest / shark tank wherever I went.

Good thing about SB, tons of hot young transient chicks.

Downside is it can also be a shark tank on some nights.

I am 6'4" 200+lbs lean, white decently good looking I'd give myself a low to mid 7 for a guy.

Tonight I saw tons of tall guys, 6'2"+ lean better looking, well dressed, AND they look like they come from major money (i.e. the 8+ version of a guy). Many of these guys were sprouting with confidence and knew many of the hot girls walking into places. Other places just became sausage fests as the night went on.

I only have myself really to blame, I could have made 2 or 3 more solid approaches in the night.

My pussy excuses are, I was trying to be more sociable with my new friends in town. They always comment how much I am absent minded when we are out because I am looking for new tail and not paying attention. They even had a picture in which I photo-bombed where I was looking for approach opportunities while they took a photo. Hahah I wasn't looking anywhere near the camera while on the hunt.

I have to say I do like the idea of a SNL and have 2 since I have been in SB. Although, fuck, music is getting bad. This dub step overly-hardcore shit is soul-racking. It is so loud I have to get mildy drunk to hit the dance floor. Mainstream and hip hop I am fine. I get complimented regularly for being a good dancer (especially for a white guy). I end up getting at least mildly drunk so I hit the dance floor with force.

I really think as I get older (i.e. in the next 5 years or so when
I am nearing my mid 30s) that Day Game will be golden and that I will interlace things like Yoga, High Class Charity events, and the Art Scene together and phase out of night game. Night Game is just completely hit and miss. I do not think I have the warrior blood to go out 4-5 nights a week to really be able to cash in. Yet I have not traveled the holy lands of Russia and Columbia... one day...

#115:
6.6 5'5" white 21yo blue eyes decent face - in shape wavy long hair California Blonde Wannabe (almost but not quite)... she sat at the extremely crowded bar next to me.

I tapped her shoulder and told her if she could get the bartender's attention and order drinks before me (which I knew would happen from experience at this place) I would pay her $2.

So of course she gets the bartender's attention first from everyone else that is waiting.

She orders my friend's and my drink as well as her own and her friend's drink.

She puts her hand out for the $2 and I gladly pay it for a job well done. She is more drunk than I thought because she does not understand that I paid with cash for my drink and my friend's drink already (she thinks I paid for her drink as well). She pays for her own drink then she asks how much her drink was.

I say $7. Then she pays me $7 that is not owed to me because she just paid for her own drink in cash.

So I make $5 by paying her to get my drinks for me. Good deal.

I think to myself I can play it cool and get her number later as many people are hording the bar to get a drink, I'll catch her later. I get her name, she is very affable.

Too bad I am too busy socializing with my friends to notice when she leaves. I think I may have easily number closed.

Better yet I should have pushed the situation and bought an extra round of shots for us both to hang out with.

Sadly this was the only real approach of the night. I hope to do better tomorrow. I may even rock Suit Game for the first time.

By the way anyone notice a tipping point in some clubs where the amount of sausage-fest becomes so high it is like a pride of lustful baboons dancing haphazardly around 2 or 3 semi-attractive girls? This is what happened in a 5 minute period. Tidal wave of cock to the dance floor. I need to use the 3 second rule more. Sometimes I wait for that better opening window. If the ratios are near even you may have that grace. With a hot dog factory dropping product on your head you need to move fast and attach your groin to that ass and treat it like a buoy of safety against that cock tidal wave.

Post: #53

Well I felt a little better about last night. Although for some reason the night was slow in general. Still Thanksgiving break.

A girl I banged this summer from Tinder 6.6 26yo 5'10" skinny long haired brunette dropped by on her way through town to bang. Felt good to get a good lay in last night right before I went out. Either way funny part is I read somewhere by Aliblahblah to go straight out after bang, no shower haha, have the scent on you so to speak. As I grabbed her panties up off the floor from the other room I am not ashamed to say I rubbed the panties briefly on my neck to test this theory as my pussy cologne. Crazy?

Morning Sidewalk Outside My Place

#116:
So as I am leaving my place I see the profile of what seems like a good looking Latina walking by. I do not have much time due to an appointment I have to be at so I decide to go direct. I follow her down the narrow sidewalk for a bit until things open up more. I am thinking in my head this girl is a 25 yo 7+.

I catch up to her.

The 2 seconds I need to look her over immediately drops my hopes as the words excuse me come out of my mouth.

She's older, maybe 29/30. Bit frumpier from the front. Small neck-tatt on the right side of her neck. Heavy makeup that is not done well. Screams a little ghetto to me. Never had luck with hoodrats, they are usually very cold and indifferent when I hit on them. She isn't nearly as good looking as I thought. Still WB for some reason. Novelty? She is a 6.0. I go direct and tell her I am in a hurry, but I think she's cute. Depending on the girl in the future for directness I may switch it up and use the word attractive. I really do not like the idea of using the word interesting to tell a girl when I go direct and have a time constraint, but maybe it works?

She smiles when I tell her she's cute, but isn't into talking with me. Was pleasant and said where she works at the cosmetic department in the store nearby, and said I should drop by if I need anything (subtle jab or retarded girl?). Why is her makeup so awful if she works for the cosmetics counter!? She was nice though.

Next.


Ok so onto bigger and better.

I suited up for the first time ever last night (other than weddings).

The suit again is from Combatant Gentleman cost $170. Fits well had to get a little tailoring to get it more snug around the waist area. Suit looks like it could cost $500-600 in my newbie suit opinion. I have tried on some $800-900 it does not look quite that nice. Still blows an H&M suit out of the water. Maybe comparable to Zara.

I got the grey/silver one, had a dark midnight blue shirt underneath, top button undone.

I was in a hurry and I know guys on the board so go nuts with pocket square, since I didn't have time to really search far I just got a black one, but it seemed to match the silver suit and midnight blue shirt well. I also subconciously did not want to push too much as being suited up in general is new to me.

I went out with a group of 7 people total including 3 women. Everyone complimented my suit and it seemed like the guys in the group were envious (in a friendly way) that I dressed so well. The girl that did not wear a dress wanted to immediately get dressed up more when she saw me.

When we went out I am not sure I received more looks because I am notoriously bad at picking up girls subtle looks at me during the night in general. Other girls and some guys have pointed out when girls check me out and I don't notice. I need to work on this.

That said - I did get 2 direct compliments from girls I already knew on some basis that I ran into in the club. I honestly didn't feel out of place wearing the suit and people would actually clear out of my way faster wherever I walked. Especially in the club where many staff members wear suits.

I sort of have the bouncer on lock down at this one club and I fucked up his name when I said hello. He seemed disappointed, I was disappointed - so I tipped him extra on my way out.

I saw South African girl and actually ran into Blonde Librarian girl both in the same club.

Blonde Librarian (8 - previous bang) was looking good, we caught eye contact as we were passing each other and I waved and we came together to say hello. She asked why I was dressed so nice. I forgot what I said. Either way I told her we should hang out (she has fallen off the map). She said she lost her phone and can only be contacted by email so she puts her email in my phone and gives me a hug goodbye. No idea what happened there. My player instinct says she probably wanted so ego gratification that I was still into it, but doesn't really want to hook up again.


For some reason I hit on staff tonight the prospects out seemed slim. I maybe have been able to do 1 approach I pussed out on that really passed the boner test.

Instead I hit on staff - maybe not a good decision?

Club 1

#117:
So at this one club I have the bouncer and one hot bartender sort of on lock down still working it bit. They recognize me and are very friendly, I tip them out well. Bouncer complimented my suit even after I got his name wrong.

The hot bartender 8.2 brunette 24yo 5'8", great hip to waist ratio, great smile. Everything. Just hot and sweet. She recognizes me from several times before and we know each other's name etc...

I said hello ordered a drink. When I am posted up surveying the scene she rubs the back of my arm and asks why I am dressed so well. I tell her I think men should wear suits more and be more comfortable in them. And I point to a group of sloppily dressed dudes at the bar that are older than me and I say I don't want to fall behind like them.

She tells me I am definitely not falling behind with a smile.

Later in the night I come back around to the bar before our group leaves and I tell we should talk outside the club sometime. She smiles and says she has a boyfriend. I tell her back with a smile don't worry this won't affect your tips, she laughs. All good though I feel as she seems to enjoy flirting with me and I tip her well so gives me attention when the bar is flooded with people.

Club 2

Well not sure what got into me at this point but I hit on 2 go-go dancers (the only 2). They are both within eye sight of each other.

#118
Due to the heavy drinking with my group and the low prospects in general I was more buzzed than usually. Not sloppy by any means.

I go up to the go-go dance and say God knows what I don't remember it was loud. I later go back and physically hoist myself up on the elevated dancer platform with my knee so I am over the railing talking to her. I am shocked later no staff came and berated me. The dancer was cool with it 7+ blonde mid 20s in great shape.

Oh yes I remember, she was wearing some fake feather tiara I asked if she was a real Indian (Native American - no disrespect).

She laughed and said yes of course. I hurried the conversation since I didn't have much time being over the railing. I told her we should talk tried to shove my phone on her. She said for me to get her my number. My instincts tell me this is over, BUT from a place earlier in this thread I did give me number to a bar staff girl on a receipt and she did text me (fizzled though). So I go get my number on a napkin and slip it to her.

#119:
Not as good looking as the other go-go dancer tiny bit of a butter face still probably a high 6 low 7 due to the rocking body alone. Don't really remember what happened, but when the music stopped and she sat down I waved hello at her and she waved at me. I went up and said what I thought was playfully "hey you can wave at me but not say hi?" No clue why I said this. Sometimes stupid things come out. She wasn't having it with a sour facial expression. I don't feel like saving it.

In sum - I felt good in the suit. I think if there were more prospects I would stand out, and also if I went out alone I had the sneaking suspicion I would be approached my a girl or at least heavily complimented in passing. Good opener for girls either way they will ask why you are so dressed up.

I am thinking a good go-to response would be:

"I like suits"

Post: #54

"and people would actually clear out of my way faster wherever I walked. Especially in the club where many staff members wear suits."

^^One of the great perks to suiting up.

Post: #55

Took a week off or so. Confidence was low, sex drive low, no inspiration to game.

I cut out alcohol, weed, cigarettes, and am on no fap for the last few days to up myself which has been working.

Surfed Rincon today, it was cold out with high winds. The breaks were coming in so fast I actually got sea sick for the first time on a surf board in the middle of the session. Fought it off on the beach finished well. Good day.

Street Day Time

Approach 120:
6.3 short blonde. Nothing too special but not fat, passed the boner test. She walked along me across a street and I asked directions again for an area that was nearby (trendy) that any girl her age should know. She gives me the wrong directions. We have a strange moment where I question her directions strongly and she doubles down. She leaves for a nearby store and comes running out 20 seconds later to say she is wrong. It is infact the other way. I joked was she trying to get me lost? She laughed, but wheeled around to the store quickly. The effort for a number after she kinda pissed me off for giving me the wrong directions killed it.

Night Club

Was only out for 1 hour tonight. Friends (couples) that were with dragged us to lame venues to meet their friends and also we didn't head out until late in the first place.

Approach 121:
35yo 6.8 avg. height light brunette. Looked like good tits and ass. Nice dress. She danced within inches of my crotch with her ass swaying so I stepped in gently for the feel-it-out grind. She stuck around in my vicinity for awhile with her friends but didn't want the grind. Wasn't sure how to re-open as she made herself more involved with the friend dance circle so I moved on.

Approach 122:
This one was my fumble due to inexperience and nothing more. With the dark lights etc it seemed as though a 33yo low 7 brunette, blue eyes, great smile, fun attitude came up and said I looked bored on the dance floor and started to dance with me close, I started grinding her immediately, felt good having her grind front and back on me. Not my own cold approach but fuck it I was there, and took advantage. I was liberal with feeling her up. There was a small window in the first 10 seconds of dancing that I should have gone in the for the makeout. Little did I know a fierce cock block was coming. Her friend fiercely cock blocked as the girl was grinding her ass into me as the friend kept yacking in her ear.

Anyone can step in and give advice here.

My belief is I should have gone for the make out as soon as I saw the opportunity. When the cock blocker came I should have 1) berated her in a condescending tone calling out her rudeness or 2) dragged the girl that was on me away for a round of shots, and then promptly get her to leave the club with me. Or both one after the other. Instead she got dragged away to a different part of the dance floor. At this point I went looking after other girls. I saw her and the cock blocking friend both talking to older guys later in the night. Seems as soon as cock blocker had a guy talking to her she liked it was all good. I missed the opportunity as I was busy elsewhere. This seemed good to go. Too bad. Experience will prepare me for this next time. My vibe must be good at least to warrant unsolicited grinding when I am looking bored. Remember I was sober haha. I NEVER go out sober. Felt good though I had little to no anxiety to be dancing. With some girls I give up to easily and do not re-open instead I move on quickly. I need to know when to give second pushes. I could have found her on the dance floor 5 minutes after the cock block and told her to come get a shot. We could have made out and the bar and sneaked her out.

Approach 123:

7.1 21yo 5'5' skinny brunette long hair great smile, nice tight dress that looked great on her. She was dancing for awhile in her friend circle and we had met eyes more than a few times. I caught her later in the night walking back to the dance floor and tapped her should to ask for her name and told her I liked the way she was dancing up on the dance floor stage. She was either shy or wasn't having it. I was sober and still couldn't tell, but she went back to her friend circle.

Post: #56

Surfed Ricon again yesterday. Rocks, kelp, wind, dolphins that look like sharks, seals, birds, and the dark angry sea. Dropped in hard to a wave for the first time, was a rush.

Finals week, it is a serious mood on campus. Plus it is cockblocking my pipeline with finals excuses and lets hang out after finals which means there is a winter break.

Approach #124:
Girl is sitting on a bench in the distance. Can't tell if she is cute until I get up close. I am standing at a 45 degree angle about 10-15 feet away so there is no startling. 6.7 blonde, glasses, short hair, trim, a little mousy but cute 18yo. Ask her for directions to the gym, she gives them. I act lost, bad with maps, reiterate the directions to play around and banter. Seems to go well she is nice. I find out she is a first year freshman. Some reason that drives me sex drive up towards her. She could probably be a 7 if she didn't have retarded mid-length hair. So the conversation closes and I pull a move I have been using lately.

I will call it the Roundabout.

This where I start indirect and the conversation comes to a natural close, I go about my business and leave. After walking away 30-50 feet, I turned around and go back to reapproach. In this second approach I either go direct or semi-direct saying to the girl she seems cool and helpful and that as I was walking away I said to myself that we should talk again. Got her number easily. She responded to my contact exchange catch-ya-later text instantly. She's having finals then going straight outta town for a few weeks. Seems to be difficult unless she has a sex drought until she comes back. Or if God loves me she is a horny virgin *fingers crossed*.

#125:
Girl is striding along side me and an even pace. She has the slower walk that says she is feeling open and easy. She is way dressed down for finals week. Borderline sloppy. California Blonde 20yo I'd say a 7, but if she wasn't so done-down she could be a 7.5 if she spruced up. Tall and slender except for a plump ass. I ask for directions to a place in the direction she is walking hoping she will invite me along. She is nice and cheerful. We kept walking as we talked... it would have worked well if she invited me along, but she did not. I could have Roundabout'd her. But I did not. Not sure why. I probably should have. Hindsight 20/20 I should have poked fun at how she looked like she just rolled out of bed and started a new conversation from there about finals and all that.

The Roundabout seems to work for me because sometimes I find it to be seemingly incongruent to jump from indirect to "you seem cool, let's hang out", especially if she hasn't asked me any questions and is being polite, I really use this when I feel the conversation has come to a natural close and rambling or forcing banter will seem out of place, of course if she is already laughing, joking, asking me questions, and going doe-eyed I do not dare leave, I go more direct. Also when I go indirect I often feel the interaction goes very well, but even if I drop some bait there are no personal questions. When I leave and come back, it seems spontaneous, like I wasn't planning on thinking she was cool or cute, but now I realize it during my busy day. It seems to have worked well for me so far. It seems like it undermines the scared cat.

Indirect -> Leave -> Semi-direct/Direct - it is not much different than cruising a bar or club and giving a girl a quick one liner as you pass by then coming back later if she was amenable.

Post: #57

Got depressed for a month no reason why.

Done about 40 more approaches no bangs from them since!

3 new bangs since 2 online and the last was a back burner prospect from 8 months ago, closed her at my parents house visiting OC late night while my parents were asleep haha. Haven't done that in a yr and a half. I am proud cause the chick was a solid 7 22 yo, very firm just tits ass and flat stomach weighed 105lbs, I first approached her at a bar last april. Captain her high school dance squad. Fashionable. Passionate.

So this last weekend I got online notch fri night, girl I just mentioned Sat night and almost hat tricked last night for 3 new notches in 4 days.

Last night was an online 21 college girl and salsa instructor. Great body good face, short fucking hair! Showed me pics of her with long hair I wanted to back hand her. Definite 7+
with long hair.

Picked her up in my car. Started escalating before we got inside the bar. She was a lightweight in drinking 2 drinks in I am manhandling her i. the bar and groping her. 3 drinks we are walking to my place. Called me out as a player and a brute savage constantly. Bulldozed her to the bedroom. 3 solid hours of wrestling in defiant LMR.

We aren't having sex said over a dozen times. I make her sleep over. I try seceral times in the middle of the night. Me boxer shorts her thong, bra and tank top. Ha her hand on my cock earlier cannot break through.

6am and my boner motor has been running for 8 hours. Finally get her to get naked by kissing her inner thighs and above her pussy.

She gives me a little oral, I stop her as I am about to blow my load. Fuck I squeeze my dick and think about ugly old women to stop it. No go I lean away and quietly cum in my hand. She asks whats wrong.


Uhhhhh I tell her that I am about to cum and I am too embarassed to be a one minute man, go to the bathroom to clean up. Come back and told her I finished myself in peace after 8 hrs of boners. She bought my ridiculous story. Refactory period. 5 min before I have to drive to work. She is still good to go. Time killed me.

I did spider man hand her to a couple orgasms before the secret ejaculation occurred.

She jokingly told me I could easily go get PhD in any subject due to my incredible persistence and felt bad for me.

Strange times. I do not know how to feel about this near miss bang.

What is the correct response when you secretly cum in your hand and have to leave soon?

Fuck I never thought I would have to ask this hahah.

I feel I am goin down the rabbit hole into strange situations.

Post: #58

(02-11-2014 07:08 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Got depressed for a month no reason why.

Done about 40 more approaches no bangs from them since!

3 new bangs since 2 online and the last was a back burner prospect from 8 months ago, closed her at my parents house visiting OC late night while my parents were asleep haha. Haven't done that in a yr and a half. I am proud cause the chick was a solid 7 22 yo, very firm just tits ass and flat stomach weighed 105lbs, I first approached her at a bar last april. Captain her high school dance squad. Fashionable. Passionate.

So this last weekend I got online notch fri night, girl I just mentioned Sat night and almost hat tricked last night for 3 new notches in 4 days.

Last night was an online 21 college girl and salsa instructor. Great body good face, short fucking hair! Showed me pics of her with long hair I wanted to back hand her. Definite 7+
with long hair.

Picked her up in my car. Started escalating before we got inside the bar. She was a lightweight in drinking 2 drinks in I am manhandling her i. the bar and groping her. 3 drinks we are walking to my place. Called me out as a player and a brute savage constantly. Bulldozed her to the bedroom. 3 solid hours of wrestling in defiant LMR.

We aren't having sex said over a dozen times. I make her sleep over. I try seceral times in the middle of the night. Me boxer shorts her thong, bra and tank top. Ha her hand on my cock earlier cannot break through.

6am and my boner motor has been running for 8 hours. Finally get her to get naked by kissing her inner thighs and above her pussy.

She gives me a little oral, I stop her as I am about to blow my load. Fuck I squeeze my dick and think about ugly old women to stop it. No go I lean away and quietly cum in my hand. She asks whats wrong.


Uhhhhh I tell her that I am about to cum and I am too embarassed to be a one minute man, go to the bathroom to clean up. Come back and told her I finished myself in peace after 8 hrs of boners. She bought my ridiculous story. Refactory period. 5 min before I have to drive to work. She is still good to go. Time killed me.

I did spider man hand her to a couple orgasms before the secret ejaculation occurred.

She jokingly told me I could easily go get PhD in any subject due to my incredible persistence and felt bad for me.

Strange times. I do not know how to feel about this near miss bang.

What is the correct response when you secretly cum in your hand and have to leave soon?

Fuck I never thought I would have to ask this hahah.

I feel I am goin down the rabbit hole into strange situations.

Good to hear that you're back in the game. I too ran into hard LMR this weekend, the first real LMR I'd ever experienced in my life; I had a girl rower naked in my bed, fingered her to orgasm, got a truly awful handjob, and then a solid barrier once I tried to fuck her. I probably could have bulldozed through it if I had more experience...I plan on hitting the pavement harder in these upcoming months.

I hope you're able to approach on campus come Spring Quarter. Right now people are pretty closed off and insular, but the advent of spring rush this should change significantly.

Post: #59

(02-11-2014 08:14 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

(02-11-2014 07:08 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Got depressed for a month no reason why.

Done about 40 more approaches no bangs from them since!

3 new bangs since 2 online and the last was a back burner prospect from 8 months ago, closed her at my parents house visiting OC late night while my parents were asleep haha. Haven't done that in a yr and a half. I am proud cause the chick was a solid 7 22 yo, very firm just tits ass and flat stomach weighed 105lbs, I first approached her at a bar last april. Captain her high school dance squad. Fashionable. Passionate.

So this last weekend I got online notch fri night, girl I just mentioned Sat night and almost hat tricked last night for 3 new notches in 4 days.

Last night was an online 21 college girl and salsa instructor. Great body good face, short fucking hair! Showed me pics of her with long hair I wanted to back hand her. Definite 7+
with long hair.

Picked her up in my car. Started escalating before we got inside the bar. She was a lightweight in drinking 2 drinks in I am manhandling her i. the bar and groping her. 3 drinks we are walking to my place. Called me out as a player and a brute savage constantly. Bulldozed her to the bedroom. 3 solid hours of wrestling in defiant LMR.

We aren't having sex said over a dozen times. I make her sleep over. I try seceral times in the middle of the night. Me boxer shorts her thong, bra and tank top. Ha her hand on my cock earlier cannot break through.

6am and my boner motor has been running for 8 hours. Finally get her to get naked by kissing her inner thighs and above her pussy.

She gives me a little oral, I stop her as I am about to blow my load. Fuck I squeeze my dick and think about ugly old women to stop it. No go I lean away and quietly cum in my hand. She asks whats wrong.


Uhhhhh I tell her that I am about to cum and I am too embarassed to be a one minute man, go to the bathroom to clean up. Come back and told her I finished myself in peace after 8 hrs of boners. She bought my ridiculous story. Refactory period. 5 min before I have to drive to work. She is still good to go. Time killed me.

I did spider man hand her to a couple orgasms before the secret ejaculation occurred.

She jokingly told me I could easily go get PhD in any subject due to my incredible persistence and felt bad for me.

Strange times. I do not know how to feel about this near miss bang.

What is the correct response when you secretly cum in your hand and have to leave soon?

Fuck I never thought I would have to ask this hahah.

I feel I am goin down the rabbit hole into strange situations.

Good to hear that you're back in the game. I too ran into hard LMR this weekend, the first real LMR I'd ever experienced in my life; I had a female rower naked in my bed, fingered her to orgasm, got a truly awful handjob, and then a solid barrier once I tried to fuck her. I probably could have bulldozed through it if I had more experience...I plan on hitting the pavement harder in these upcoming months.

I hope you're able to approach on campus come Spring Quarter. Right now people are pretty closed off and insular, but the advent of spring rush this should change significantly.

You are halfway there already. Also, some of these girls will put up heavy LMR maybe the first time you get them in your bed, but maybe considerably less the second time. My point is don't just give up on them if they only make out with you and give a shitty handjob on the first date.

Post: #60

(02-11-2014 08:14 PM)Agastya Wrote:  Good to hear that you're back in the game. I too ran into hard LMR this weekend, the first real LMR I'd ever experienced in my life; I had a female rower naked in my bed, fingered her to orgasm, got a truly awful handjob, and then a solid barrier once I tried to fuck her. I probably could have bulldozed through it if I had more experience...I plan on hitting the pavement harder in these upcoming months.

My strong point and I would dare say it is the only part of Game I am a natural at is LMR and just closing once I am isolated and in private with a girl.

If a girl puts up heavy LMR I think the key to beating it is you have to keep the mood light and fun and make it like a play fight. You cannot dare show any exhaustion or disappointment. Suggesting a shot or a joint never hurts either if you think she could be into it.

If there is a firmer rejection I tend to start a play fight with a little shove, or even hit them with a pillow to start a pillow fight, or just change to conversation to a joke then try to escalate again when the mood is good.

When a girl laughs is always the perfect time to strike.

Keep rotating on where you escalate on her.

I finally got around the kissing/biting her inner thighs and above her pussy.

That unlocked it after trying countless other things haha.

This was my longest LMR battle, and probably one of the most fun.

She was being playful the entire time and kept saying how she hates being a girl because she has to be the one to not put out so easily and kept playfully hating on me for breaking her down.

Post: #61

Some really great stories bro! I'm actually looking into moving to SB from Tx hopefully around the summer.

Post: #62

(02-21-2014 10:45 PM)Traveler Wrote:  Some really great stories bro! I'm actually looking into moving to SB from Tx hopefully around the summer.

Get in contact with me, Agastya and quino_16.

Post: #63

I got my dick bit for the first time in my life it sucks!

Fuck I typed this out and lost it. Re-do short version.

Jesus fucking Christ on a bicycle.

Approach #200: Approached girl in mix set to dance for a bit, away from the dance floor.... story unfolds.

UCSB senior dude approaches me asked me if I want a drag of a cig which I do. Thought it was a gay advance it wasn't. Maybe he is an RVFer because he wanted to talk about studying and moving abroad to Europe!

Anyways a peroxide blonde maybe a 7+ on a good day? Nice tits 5'10" decent face... nice curves starts dancing with me I try for makeout she wanders off. Comes back later in the convo. We dance she turns around against a wall to get grinded mentions she has a BF there that bought her table and that he's crazy uh-oh. I am not afraid to fight but when I think crazy guys I think knives, guns, or other crazy dirty fighting like biting an ear off.

She soon after leads me off out of the bar to smoke a cig she doesn't have. I drag her by the hand to my place 2 blocks away.

We take a shot of Jack and make out. I pulll out her tits which are pierced with rigs and suck on them. I find she has a retarded bow-tie gift present tatt above her pussy. Man... prolly diseased puss uh-oh.

Yes I am drunk typing this.... fuck... rep me for effort yo.

Anyways she keeps monologue-ing about how she has a FIANCE!? BF that she has to go back to, he is crazy, and she will get in so much trouble. We get to my bed makeout etc .... I rip off her shorts and panties fingering begins... she goes with it for awhile then backtracks runs out the to living room lays on the couch open for play. Bitch be crazy....

I finger her there then when in doubt what do you do NEWBIES?!

GET YOUR DICK OUT.

Fuck yeah.

So my dick is out I shove it in her mouth while fingering her...

She is good for a bit sucking... then what....

Not good....

She fucking bites it!!!!

I never had my dick head bitten it fuuuuuucking succks!!!!!

I was done after that and proceed to kick her out as she says how unfair it is and how gorgeous I am blah blah.

On the sidewalk while walking her back to the club she keeps coming back at me I finger her bent over and suck her tits out on the dark sidewalk on the street a block away from the club while she spills more about her BF.
They are getting married really soon.... Red Pill wake up!!!!

Crazy shit....

Not worth getting your dick bit to get a 1/4 blow job gents....

She said later she bit my dick because her BF requests it!!!!

What a fuck up!

Game is crazy I cannot fucking believe I get a new experience no one else I know in person has experienced every other fucking month.

Post: #64

Still been number farming and trying to convert day game numbers. But last night I got a new night bang.

So I am about 4 bangs outta 209 approaches. Roughly 2% conversion. I have opportunities in which I was close to converting 2 more bangs but failed. If I had those 6/209 more near 3% which is more what I aim for. 5% one day would be my goal. Most of these approaches are day game by far. Had other bangs through online, probably on pace for 18-20 bangs in a 1 year period which I am happy with. I don't think I am up for Soup / McQueen American numbers of 50+ a year.


Approach 209: Bang - Overcoming German Couple Thirst
I am drunk, but the good amount of drunk where I can game well and get really into whatever environment I am thrown into.

I am noticing the longer I take to pregame at a reasonably pace starting around 8pm and Easing Into the Night, the better buzz I have on my way out especially solo. I am still heavily dependent on how quality my buzz is as to how well I game.

Rolling solo. I have been dressing down a bit lately, but louder colors with a baseball hat. Has given me more confidence for whatever reason. Probably contrast from the dressier types.

After leaving venue 1 I go to check venue 2 a favorite club of mine. The line is very long I know the door guy and have it on semi-lock down, but for some reason my instincts tell me to look for something better.

Walking back towards other venues near my place I see a girl in a shiny silver dress that barely covers her luscious ass and has sleeves (my favorite kind of dress). Her thighs, ass, legs alone make the deal. 23yo, 5'10 medium length brown hair that is put up, nice little black boots, blue eyes.
Her body is a 7+, she has a cute face, but suffers from some mild acne I easily overlook this in girls because I had acne in the past so I feel sympathy and probably even some more attraction if they are confident with themselves. It must be much harder to be a girl with acne than a guy 10 fold. So some may dock her down to a 6, I say a 7.0.

She is infront of a small, but classy bar/restaurant on the phone, but makes strong eye contact I slowly drift by and looks like she is on hold. I turn somewhat back and ask how it is in there. She says great I should come in and get a drink.

I step much closer to her and invade her personal space (liquor helps with this for me). I make strong eye contact and really don't remember what I said, but I was teasing her and I slowly boxed her into a doorway a few feet away and pinned her by the wall. She was very compliant, I went in for the kiss. She verbally resists, but her voice says she loves it. I kiss her on the face and neck several times while she is still on the phone waiting to talk. I do this 2 or 3 times and keep teasing.

She asks me if I want to come with the next venue, which I had just been at earlier. Not a bad place, has talent, I may have headed back anyways.

Her 2 "friends" pop out on the sidewalk to join us, a couple, both blonde. Early 30s. The girl immediately asks my chick where she found me. I say I rolled out of the gutter, and off we go. At the next venue I start seeing that the dude in the couple acts a little strange and looks sort of nerdy and off putting. I can't tell but his behavior is off. I buy shots for me and my chick. I later get a beer in return. We hit the dance floor and I keep groping her ass and physically attack.

After some cigarettes outside we leaving the venue and they suggest going back to the couple's place. I was pissed. I asked my chick to blaze at my place 3 blocks away. Now we are taking a cab a mile or 2 away to go to some other house. I feel a good enough vibe I go with it.

This is when things get weird.

In the cab minivan ride the German wife is shotgun, I am sitting bitch in the way back, German husband and my chick are in the middle 2 seats.

I look down and see the guy's had on the inner thigh of my chick and her not really resisting, but looking amused. I am wondering what I got myself into.

We get to their house and I learned the couple is German-born and that they barely knew my chick. They were friends of friends that just met that night. The Germans had been drinking since noon that day and were near blacked out and I couldn't tell.

At the German house the wife is egging us on to take shots with her. The guy takes his hat and glasses off. He has dark rings under his eyes and his hair is slicked back. He sits on the couch very out of it.

He went from off-putting nerdy type to shady druggie in mere seconds.

We smoke cigarettes outside and my chick dumps all this info on me and I tell her I saw the guy's hand in the taxi. This couple is trying to get us into a 4-some. The guy low and behold appears wearing nothing but his boxers outside and is acting pretty weird, but still not to the point I just wanted to ditch. As my girl is inside with the German guy I can see them in the window chatting. The wife is out front with me and I grope her to test my theory. She giggles as I grope her ass and chest.

She tells me we shouldn't leave and have to stay.

My chick has to be somewhat down with the situation just for coming along.

I contemplate this 4-some scenario. I can get 2 new bangs in one night. But I am sharing with weird German guy with dark rings under his eyes. The wife is blonde, blue eyed, 6'0" decent body, but a plain and almost somewhat masculine face. Also early 30's which is old for my taste. If she was all dolled up with make up, hair, a dress, heels and looked more fuck-worthy I probably woulda talked my chick into doing it.

I could have stayed and try to plan last man standing hoping the German dude would pass out and try to fuck both, seemed like a long shot.

I talk to my chick she finally agrees to get a cab with me to my place. We laugh with the cabbie as I ask him if he has ever had to dodge a German 4-some.

At my place bang has no LMR, no drinks necessary. Good bang. Ended up going raw for most of it. I am developing bad habits. Girl agreed to take plan B says she is iffy on birth control use.

In the early morning as I let her out the door to the taxi outside my place I shout "Walk of shame! Walk of shame! Walk of shame!" she gives me the middle finger over her shoulder.

Should I try to set up a 4-some with her and the Germans?

Sidenote: This is why I dig SB for such a small city. Tons of transplants, and a good handful of Europeans. I banged a South African, Singaporian here. Gamed a Norwegian. Met Germans and others etc..

Post: #65

Hey man, I actually made my 100 approach thread because of you. Just wanted to give a shout out.

Post: #66

(03-23-2014 07:50 PM)Blackliter Wrote:  Hey man, I actually made my 100 approach thread because of you. Just wanted to give a shout out.

Best thing I can hear!

The whole reason for this thread is to keep my motivation and share value by showing guys just getting into things what the day to day and night to night struggles consist of coming from the view of an intermediate gamer.

I will be sure to comment on your thread good luck!

I wish there were so many 100, 1000, approach only 7+, 8+ thread on the Newbie Forum that we would need a whole new sub-forum to hold them.

This is where all the real progress is made. And approaches aren't the big deal it is everything that the approach serves as a catalyst for and gets you into the trenches of escalation, venue changing, phone game, text game, anti-cockblock game, logistics, and LMR.

Post: #67

230 approaches in.

Got a random Tinder bang off a 5'2" Vietnamese girl a couple weeks ago. 6.0. 10lbs overweight. Cute little asian girl, very well dressed etc.. otherwise. Seemed very innocent. Got her to drink wine. Gave me a mean blowjob. Said she liked me during the date. After what seemed like very good sex, she dropped out of text convo a few days later. Slut remorse?

Went to Deltopia in the afternoon and left before night and the riots. Tons of girls drunk in bikinis. Drove there and was sober because I thought the cops would kill it right away like Halloween. I was wrong.

Due to job concerns and the police there I did not want to get caught with an open container or other substances.

That said if I was a student or at a job that probably wouldn't get word of me getting a ticket I would have had a flask on me and weed, and would have gone around offering to 1 and 2 sets of girls.

I was contemplating getting drunk at the local bar there and getting up to speed and cabbing it home, but nightfall was hitting and girls were going back inside houses to change or eat etc... I ended up leaving.

Living there with logistics would have been easy if you put the approaches in. My sobriety, unease around police, and logistics but me in a bad game mood.


The Fifth Time A Girl On My Bed Bang Doesn't Happen

Later that night I go to a music show, make an approach at the bar with a 7 blonde London girl next to me. Goes well, but I get cockblocked by the music act and how the venue is laid out.

I go across the street to a bar with a small dance floor. On either side of me are 2 different blondes giving me looks. I contemplate which one to open. I must be giving off a stronger image at night game because I am getting more passive attention lately. The girl on my left taps me asks if I am from SB and says she is buying me a shot. Game on.

She is 5'7" with some little curves, blonde, 26 yo, mid 6. She ends up sending me this photo the next day to entice me to see her again:



She has a 5'5" brunette friend with her that is hotter a 7.3. They are both staying the night in a nearby hotel and leave tomorrow morning. As I flirt with the blonde the brunette tells me that I am going to be hanging out with them all night if I don't mind. Open invitation. I start draping my hands on the blonde's hips and ass as we talk. I make sure to scan the bar and dance floor for hotter girls.

She soon says: "At least act like you are interested in me!"

Game is working hard.

I grab her ass and grope her randomly. She tells me I'm really hot and asks if I get told that all the time. I said not alllll the time with a smile. She scolds me. She is losing badly on the battlefield of sex. I drag her to the dance floor and we start proper grinding. Her friend snaps photos of us. I buy us all a round to keep the party going.

I tell them about choices of clubs to go to in SB. I give the classier place and the dirty place. The blonde chick loves the dirty place idea.

On the way to the dirty club she tells me "you know too much, you're too good at this". I look at her like she is retarded and say: "what the fuck are you talking about". Then ignore her and change the subject.

At the dirty club we get separated from the brunette friend, she cabs it to the hotel without telling us. We grind more on the dance floor. We start walking to find her friend I spot a cute little Mexican chick and give her the phone signal "I'll call you" with my hand, she laughs and gives it back. I am starting to hit on other girls while even with what seems like sure thing girl by reflex. It feels needy not to be scanning for hotter girls often.

I get the blonde near an empty booth. She lays back into the booth and I dry sex her up good in the booth that is clearly visible to the entire dance floor. A group comes back to claim their table where their drinks were resting. The guy congratulates me, the girls look shocked and laugh. We get out onto the sidewalk and this is where I have a player dilemna.

Blonde gets text from brunette that she is back at the hotel. Blonde invites me to stay the night at the hotel. Both her and brunette are sharing one bed in one room. Blonde says brunette is so hammered she won't care if we fuck next to her. When I last seemed brunette she seemed very sober and aware. If she was drunk and having a great time I don't think she would have left the club.

I am thinking in this order of optimism:
1. Threesome possibility
2. At least get to see the brunette in some form of nudity
3. The hotel room with have room service and good snacks

In order of pessimism:
1. The brunette will cause drama and cockblock
2. I shall get no pussy most likely

I let the pessimism reign and went for the sure thing because my place was 1 block away and this girl likes to smoke and drink.

We get to my place. Long story short I get her naked, fingered, spiderman palming her to orgasm, but when my dick comes out she won't go further. She cabs it home. Next morning she calls and begs to do brunch and drink her train leaves at 2. Catch is she has to stick with her brunette friend and won't come directly to my place. I say fuck that. She wants me to come to San Diego soon for a weekend to fuck her I am guessing. Don't think it is worth it. C'est la vie.

Would you have gone to the hotel if you felt no sex vibe from the brunette, but only a friendly one as she was wingmaning her blonde friend? Should I have believe the blonde that the brunette was super hammered even though she deftly took photos of us and got a cab through her phone app no problemo? If brunette was smashed anything could have happened....

Post: #68

I Get My First Day Game Campus Bang: Looks Are Deceiving

Two weeks back on campus in the late afternoon I spot a girl coming from my right. Cute, no makeup, blue eyes, hair tied up, auburn hair, 5'4" very thin looked 20-21... very high 6 if she wore a little make up let her down a low 7.

Since I wasn't feeling very confident and she came out of my blind spot I indirect opened her with asking for directions. Luckily as I have posted before she is walking in the same direction to the place I am asking about and offers to lead me there. Great it is an instant date. We chat...

She tells me she is a junior and lives 45 min away and has to commute. Perfect she probably has a weak social circle here and is dying for a local guy I end up being right.

Two weeks later we get together for the first date (last night). She drives in traffic for an hour or so just to meet me on a weekday. This threw me off a little because for a supposed 20-21 year old junior in college that is a 7.0 to put that investment in seems out of place.

I tour her around State St. and I learn she just moved from AZ 6 months ago, okay now I get it more... she is new and it is less expensive to live that far away. We get a beer I find out she is a beer snob. I also see a few grey hairs which I hadn't notice before. I immediately look at her hands, neck, crows feet etc.. for signs of aging... nope with no make up on at all she looks young. She mentions she is a home owner in AZ and rents it out. I was shocked a girl so young could be a home owner. She also says she was a small business owner for 10 years.

My penis is now forcibly tricking my mind as I want my first campus bang to be from a young chick.

We got to bar number 2. I convince her to switch from beer to vodka by making her try her first Titos. We play pool and drink more I go in for the kiss when she is laughing. Soon after we are on stools and I have my hand between her leg going to work. She seems very calm and collected. Too much for a younger girl! Soon after we go play darts on the walk over I force her to lay back on one of the pool tables in plain view, after I push her into the wall by the dart board and make out hard. I hear jeers from some girls at the bar. There is no loud music, nor anyone else being loud. I must look classy.

On the way home (2 blocks away - logistics) she asks how old I am I make her go first. At first my dumb mind is thinking to lie young because a 21 year old fucking an almost 29yo can be a problem some days...

She is 32... I am mildly floored as a 32yo junior that dresses and acts young. When I met her on the street corner for the date I was honestly thinking of back up plans if she wasn't 21 and we couldn't grab a drink at a bar. We ended up fucking 3 times. She puked after the first time. The second two times were about 5 hours later. I walked her to the parking garage and she drove home.

I am noticing a pattern. I play comfort for about the first hour, then I slowly encourage partying and heavy drinking. I escalate hard and fast. She tries to keep up with drinking, we get home fuck, the liquor catches up then we fuck again when they sober up.

I don't know how to feel about this bang. The sex was good and she is in decent shape, and looks for a 32yo doubt, but anything older than 23 and I get discouraged fast. The little fupa forming and little bit of tit sag gets to me, even if everything else is good. On the other hand if she told me she was 21, I would have bought it that night, but done the math later once I orgasmed.

It took me 6+ months and this was the 6th girl I took out on a date from a Campus Day Game Number Crunch to get a bang and it was a 32 year old. Well - progress I guess. Look up and look forward!

I need to take my own advice and approach solid 7+s more often not these borderline 6/7's I seem to be stuck on and comfortable with!

Post: #69

Keep going man, I'm kinda the same way with older women. Anything sagging or lines or their skin/wrinkles kinda kills it for me. But better than jacking off

Post: #70

Good stuff Travesty.

Lots of good information here that I want to apply later.

Post: #71

Advice welcomed for this post:

Just got back from a first date with a girl. Approached her at the beach a couple weekends ago. I was on my skateboard shirtless. She had a skateboard and her dog was taking a crap on the sidewalk so I made fun of her dog. Went direct, got her number, we skated up the beach a bit together in the same direction and split.

7.3 24yo, bottle blond, irish freckles, 5'11, blue eyes, tan legs, good shape, track and field girl, ex-volleyball player.

At venue 1 we had one drink and talked. Conversation went well, she was warm, legs crossed toward me. Light kino.

Here is where it gets rough for me. And where I think I may have already lost her. She did not want to have a second drink because she is training for track events and is recovering from an injury.

She dropped bait saying she has been drinking more in the past since she moved to SB (we both moved here around 6 months ago).

We ended up going to venue 2 and playing pool, more light kino, flirting. Then we go to get yogurt and walk. More flirting, but all of it was more PG-13.

I am so used to being buzzed with a girl that kino naturally ramps up. Since we were pretty sober I wanted to keep things moving with walking, changing venues etc. It ended with a hug goodbye saying I'd contact her soon. I alluded that it was a good thing we didn't get so fucked up on a first date and got to know each other and that in the future maybe we could drink more and cut loose, smoke, dance, etc... this was just a cover up I must have been trying to do for not getting more action.


I maybe could have gone in for the kiss, but I just wasn't feeling the momentum. It would have felt forced for me and not smooth for some reason. The date lasted 2 hours, but for whatever reason I didn't make a physical move. We were talking constantly, or moving to the next place.

Questions and Thoughts:

This girl would be good for a mini-relationship and this is territory I am bad at. My cynical side says it's gone because without the alcohol I think we did too much talking and getting to know each other than me groping her and going for makeouts. I am used to being extremely aggressive with lay out makeouts and pussy rubbing in public, forced up against a wall, booth, or pool table etc..

1) When she dropped the bait she is cutting drinking down to train, I did lightly try to get her to have another drink, but backed off quickly, I didn't want to look try-hard. We got onto the subject of weed. She is a smoker, I gave her the option of smoking up with me and we could get yogurt after she turned that down to play pool instead.

Should I have pushed harder for her to drink more, and teased about her cutting down drinking? Or should I have ordered my own second drink and made her sip off it?

2) When you are at the end of a date with a girl sober, and haven't felt that moment that just feels right to attack (which I do early usually with alcohol)...

Do you go for the kiss/makeout anyway, kiss her on the cheek, or just do the hug and attempt to play the frame of we'll get further next time no rush...?

3) For a date two do I push to go out and drink? Do some day time athletic activity that is non alcohol related?

4) Do I wait longer than usual to contact her again to regain or build more interest? 5 days or longer vs. the standard 2-3 days

It is so much easier when a girl gets buzzed on a first date.

Post: #72

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I was on my skateboard shirtless.

I'm probably too old to pull that off now, but God I miss those days!!!

Day gaming with no shirt on is fucking awesome! Reminds me of my teens and 20s!

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I think I may have already lost her.

Who knows???

Even if you you did lose her, maybe you can get her back???

Proceed as if nothing bad happened, set up the next date with her.

If she is willing to hang out with you again, you obviously still have a chance.

If she doesn't want to see you again, ...Next!

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I maybe could have gone in for the kiss

Maybe? But, if you weren't feeling the vibe, its ok to take it slow.

But, you say that you were touching on her and doing some light kino, if that was the case, you probably should have went the kiss.

It sounds like you are not used to escalating when you and the girl are sober.

It's okay, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe, hopefully she gives you another chance.

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Should I have pushed harder for her to drink more, and teased about her cutting down drinking? Or should I have ordered my own second drink and made her sip off it?

You maybe could have pushed her to drink a little more.. Ordering a 2nd drink for yourself and having her sip from it would have been a good move.

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  2) When you are at the end of a date with a girl sober, and haven't felt that moment that just feels right to attack (which I do early usually with alcohol)...

Do you go for the kiss/makeout anyway,

Yes.

Always take the date as far as you can.

They rarely punish us for being aggressive.

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  3) For a date two do I push to go out and drink? Do some day time athletic activity that is non alcohol related?

Both.

Suggest a date where you can drink or not drink.

Do whatever you would normally due on the 2nd date. Make drinking an option.

If you wanna drink, drink. If she doesn't want to, don't force her, too much.

You can drink and she can not drink. Who cares?

Just ask her what she wants to do for a 2nd date and then plan something that allows you the option of drinking or not.

I always keep a bottle of tequila in my car so I can drink whenever I want to.

Personally, I would do a late afternoon hike around the beach, and afterwards go get something to eat. You guys always have the option to drink or not.

When in doubt, have a drink and just offer her a sip. It might sound a little funny but fuck it, who cares, I do it all the time.

Get drunk and kiss her. If she doesn't like it, whatever!

If you want to make her your girlfriend, you can be a little less aggressive.

(04-08-2014 11:51 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  4) Do I wait longer than usual to contact her again to regain or build more interest? 5 days or longer vs. the standard 2-3 days

No. Go with the standard 2-3 days.

Just act normally as if nothing strange happened.

Get her out on the second date and keep escalating!

Get her back to your house!

You have 3 drinks and she might only have 1.5! Whatever works!

Post: #73

Dude you're killing it ! You're approaching a shit ton, honestly I've gotten lazy, got most my bangs lately from tinder (pretty good conversion rate since you already know whats up when you get matched, a few drinks and then a bang.

I enjoy reading all the approached. Gotta be honest you've got some advantages over me, but damn you're using it to your advantage !

Post: #74

Thanks Gio I take all your advice seriously. I need to remain aggressive. I had a late night and notch the night before. I wasn't as hungry as usual.

Approach 231: Just now I went direct on campus to a girl sitting on a bench. Ended up being a the 2nd girl I got an on campus date from. My game was bad that day. She is hot 7.5 maybe an 8 depending on tastes. We had a weird monent where we recognized each other.
I was going to exit as smoothly as possible, but she askes me a question to keep things going. Thinking about trying to rekindle through text.

This was the 2nd time I have ever made a mistaken repeat approach. 1st with one I have been on a date with before. Damn.

Post: #75

(04-09-2014 03:17 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I need to remain aggressive.

Yes, even when you are sober.

I go thru life pretending that I am on Ecstasy.

Seriously, I always tell myself, "just act like you are on X".

That's a little mind trick that I play with myself.

If I can do it on X, I can do it sober.

(04-09-2014 03:17 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  Thinking about trying to rekindle through text.

Why not? You've got nothing to lose!