Post: #26

Dude was at Mansion, KOD, etc. so on that front, he does it right, next time guys are in Miami and I see them talking about Nikki Beach, Mango's, and other wack ass shit, they will be replied to with that article and that article alone.

Post: #27

(01-23-2014 11:54 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

I figured they'd deck him out in red instead of orange.

Post: #28

This dude has crossed into, to borrow the phrase from Bill Simmons, the Tyson Zone. Nothing that he does now comes as a surprise.

Post: #29

(01-23-2014 03:28 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  ^Yea cuz of this:

"Justin had a passenger in the car -- a model named Chantel Jeffries."

I don't like much about you McQueen, but I like how you keep your eye on the ball.

Post: #30

(01-23-2014 04:55 PM)jariel Wrote:  Dude was at Mansion, KOD, etc. so on that front, he does it right, next time guys are in Miami and I see them talking about Nikki Beach, Mango's, and other wack ass shit, they will be replied to with that article and that article alone.

Yep.

Shocking how much good information is provided for free on this forum about Miami and Vegas, cats choose to ignore it and then make a thread bitching about how it's impossible to pull in MIA or Vegas.

Right.

The blueprint is there. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Post: #31

would you guys be doing anything different if you were 19 and in his position with no limits ?

Post: #32

(01-23-2014 05:45 PM)Beginner Wrote:  would you guys be doing anything different if you were 19 and in his position with no limits ?

You want a real thoughtful comment? Because I could make up a shitload of nonsense (my usual).

I would have gotten a few advisors, older, reputable - perfect rep. Hell I'd get Jerry Weintraub. That guy seems to be a pretty caring guy, who would tell you like it is. Yes, he has the whole weird family dynamic, but people seem to think highly of him. He dealt with John Denver and Elvis. He dealt with Sinatra. He helped manage those guys, some of them he made big. He had deals go bad, he learned he came back. He is the one of the few guys I aspire to be like. Never met the guy, but he seems to be loved by those he calls friends and someone not to be fucked with. The kind of guy that would go to the mat for you. Read his book http://www.amazon.com/When-Stop-Talking-...B005K5G6OE or HBO had a documentary. I did both.

And make a blood oath, that you'd (Bieber) listen. Might not always agree, but you'd listen.

Michael Vick got Tony Dungy on his side and he guided him back.

Shit for brains talks about being 19 and making mistakes as part of life - so if he knows he will make mistakes - there is an opening to say how about making fewer mistakes with some guidance. The people in his life won't tell him the truth because they don't want to lose the payday. You need someone who doesn't need the money.

Best thing for Bieber now is to face some jail time and learn he can't do whatever the fuck he wants. Regardless of all you Alphas at there, society needs to have some rules that also must follow or society breaks apart and girls start cutting their hair short.

Post: #33

Hell I'd get Jerry Weintraub.

Good call. An older doctor friend of mine is friends with Jerry and from what I've heard, is not only an ole' G, but a real class act.

Post: #34

(01-23-2014 06:01 PM)Christian McQueen Wrote:  Hell I'd get Jerry Weintraub.

Good call. An older doctor friend of mine is friends with Jerry and from what I've heard, is not only an ole' G, but a real class act.

You shouldn't have told me that, I might be willing to pay a small monopoly fortune to meet that cat. I was thinking of putting in my original post a McQueen shout out if you knew him.

What really touched me (getting weepy here) in the documentary was when Ellen Barkin was talking. She was having a tough time (no work etc) and out of nowhere he calls. He says (paraphrasing) - I got some good news for you, blah blah. Doesn't tell her she got the part. But lifted her up. She started crying a bit. That moved me.

You take care of your own. That is in my list of ten rules (I don't know if I have 10 rules). No good glad handing others if you don't take care of your own. He had her on his radar and she had no idea. He took care of his own. Much respect.

Post: #35

(01-23-2014 05:45 PM)Beginner Wrote:  would you guys be doing anything different if you were 19 and in his position with no limits ?

seriouesly, if I were that rich, I would freeze some of my sperm for later and get a vasectomy so I could never have any women I fuck cry pregnancy. That should be step 1.

Then I would continue to go on tour all the time, and have wranglers at the concerts to corral the 50 hottest groupies each night and have them queued up outside my dressing room as soon as I am done. 50 might be pushing it, but when I was 19 I could fuck all night.

I would hire the best publicist and manager money could buy to try to get me dates with supermodels and other hot young and up and coming singers.

Remember, he is as popular with young teen girls as the beatles or beach boys, so this shouldn't really be much of a stretch, he just had his success at a much younger age.

note: he may already be doing all of this and I just don't know about it. I do remember a story not that long ago in the news that he was hanging out with his friends on top of a building and his friends allegedly talking him into spitting on his fans below.

Post: #36

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #37

^^ Oh shit that is funny.

Post: #38

(01-22-2014 10:57 AM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  Turned a little alpha at the end, but it's mostly super pathetic beta. It makes me quiver thinking that I used to be like this.

It's interesting how quick people buy false confidence and call it "alpha" even when it's so painfully clear what it was. We've really got some ironing out to do about what defines the behavior of a man in charge around here.

That part where he "turned a little alpha" looked like extreme insecurity covered by false confidence to me; it was the most "beta" point of the transaction, even in contrast to the "I love you" shit. If he would have stuck with the "you're all I need," at least he could call himself consistent instead of basing his emotions on her responses. Guy is an emotional wreck - though probably just swings from the drugs.

All that said, while I'm no Beiber fan, I hope the kid pulls his shit together. Sad to see someone with so much potential and access flush it all down the tubes. Too much of that these days.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #39

(01-23-2014 11:54 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  little fucker got arrested for DUI. He seems so happy. I wonder if he will get taught a lesson doubtful.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/01/23/jus...ami-beach/

100% carefully choreographed publicity stunt IMO

Everything from the lambo racing to the passenger chick (definitely WB) and the following fans instagraming and tweeting the shit out of it smells like a stunt to make himself look more "bad boy" and sell shit.

Post: #40

Post: #41

(01-23-2014 05:17 PM)jariel Wrote:  I figured they'd deck him out in red instead of orange.

He's in red because he was not getting put in the general population while waiting for Roy Black to bond him out. They knew he would get killed and it happens to certain "special" prisoners.

Not that we know Bieber is a child star on the downward slope, what's the +/- on his overdose? Should we make the line five years?

Post: #42

Same girl when she got arrested two years ago.

Post: #43

(01-23-2014 11:03 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

(01-23-2014 05:17 PM)jariel Wrote:  I figured they'd deck him out in red instead of orange.

He's in red because he was not getting put in the general population while waiting for Roy Black to bond him out. They knew he would get killed and it happens to certain "special" prisoners.

Not that we know Bieber is a child star on the downward slope, what's the +/- on his overdose? Should we make the line five years?

Ya I know why they put him in red, that's why I said I figured they would, that was my thought before I saw the mugshot.

I don't think he's on the overdose path, if anything, this is a coordinated transition to the next part of his career, wouldn't be surprised if at some point he puts out an album entitled, "Rebirth" or "Redemption".

Celebs like him have handlers, they have him under control, and he's doing exactly what they want him to do; the thing about Hollywood, you're always being entertained.

Post: #44

(01-23-2014 11:06 PM)PocketAA Wrote:  


Same girl when she got arrested two years ago.

Plastic surgery and some hard work at the gym have done wonders for her, she wouldn't be repped by Wilhemina looking like that.

Post: #45

A "Bieber Game" thread on RVF? Never thought I'd see the day. A legitimate 'doom and gloom' thread for once.

Post: #46

(01-22-2014 01:38 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  Like it or not, the fact that he has high status is what attracts women, not his game. If he tried to use this on most people, he'd be playing with his right hand every night.

It's interesting how this "famous for being famous" trend has really taken off. You have the Hiltons, Bieber (to a degree these days), the Kardashians, but I really think it started with reality TV in the 90s. Specifically the Real World.

Post: #47

(01-23-2014 04:05 PM)BromigoMike Wrote:  wasn't she dating desean jackson from the eagles?

Yes, he dropped her for this chick. Significant downgrade I would say, considering shes a well known groupie and well into her 30s.

   

Post: #48

^^^^

I think I played basketball with him once.

Post: #49

I did a lot of stupid shit at 19. Hell, at 29.

I can't judge.

Post: #50

Just throwing it out as a theory, but could it be that when Beiber was at his highest (career wise, not drugs) he was with Salena and they were all the talk? Maybe he sees his life possibly going down the shitter (relatively) and is trying to recapture past glory.

Who the fuck am I kidding? Kid's high as fuck and is just looking for a booty call.