Post: #301

Lets set some things straight. Both are serious caliber players and both pull almost exclusively cold ONS.

WestCoast is about as chill a guy IRL as you can meet. He does pull a lot- mostly through dancing at clubs. We bullshit through text msg a couple times a month. Solid dude.

McQ is kinda opposite- fun/fun/fun. Neg, tease, prod. Never dances. Its all about smoking, running around, drinking heavily, and partying until 8am. Think of 6 red-bulls, 12 shots of vodka, and a pack of cigarettes will do to you.... Love this kid but I can only handle him in party mode 1-2/month MAX. Im a dude who wants to go home at 3am, not party till the sun comes up.

As for pulling abilities, its all about your strengths. I've stated that I pull during summer-time at about 50% on a weekend night out. I've really cut back on going out late because of work, but still managed to pull 30+ girls this year. Had multiple stretches of 2-4 new girls/week. Summer-time I had a stretch of 11 girls over 14 days (8 new, 3 harem).

This is nowhere close to my potential. I live in butt-fuck surburbia (60-90 mins in traffic) or at least 30+ mins (after 9pm) that most girls have to drive to see me. I've missed out on another 30+ lays due to shitty logistics. 95% club-game.

Just saying its do-able even with traffic. As an aside, its a 45 min ride in the morning and a 50 min ride back. No excuses boys!

Post: #302

(10-07-2013 08:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 07:37 PM)TrueSlyr Wrote:  I was watching Paul Janka on Dr. Phil and the reaction he got when he said he slept with 132 women.. This was in 2005, but I feel in today's time, thats nothing for a guy his age (26 or 27 around then).

Sex inflation?

Although it's possible for a guy who's learned about game/pick up via the internet to do, it's not easy. Once you get the mechanics down and the logistics down, you still need 2 things
1) big city with enough hunting grounds
2) constant hunger for new pussy

For sex addicts and perverts no problem.

For guys like say a Hunter Moore, Z-list celebrity or someone with a good social funnel - with access to poon from different cities, it's easy. The constant novelty and lack of effort...

WIA

That's a preety bold statement to say considering the relative novelty of the seduction community.

Post: #303

If you know what you're doing, 100 is nothing these days. In two months, 10/13-12/13, I banged 31 chicks running SA game.

Post: #304

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Post: #305

(01-06-2014 03:18 PM)Closer68 Wrote:  If you know what you're doing, 100 is nothing these days. In two months, 10/13-12/13, I banged 31 chicks running SA game.

Whats SA game?

Post: #306

(01-06-2014 03:18 PM)Closer68 Wrote:  If you know what you're doing, 100 is nothing these days. In two months, 10/13-12/13, I banged 31 chicks running SA game.

So in 60 days you banged 31 girls-1 every two days

Considering that there's no way you banged every one on the first date, or banged every girl you met even after subsequent dates, how many dates did you go out on during this 60 day period? 50? 60? 80?

Or are you claiming you did bang virtually all of them on the first date?

Are you independently wealthy with no need to work?

And you accomplished this you claim while making the girls pay for the dates?

You should have kept going- with your great resources of time, energy and money, you could have banged 180 girls for free in 2013!

Post: #307

(01-07-2014 09:37 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 03:18 PM)Closer68 Wrote:  If you know what you're doing, 100 is nothing these days. In two months, 10/13-12/13, I banged 31 chicks running SA game.

So in 60 days you banged 31 girls-1 every two days

Considering that there's no way you banged every one on the first date, or banged every girl you met even after subsequent dates, how many dates did you go out on during this 60 day period? 50? 60? 80?

Or are you claiming you did bang virtually all of them on the first date?

Are you independently wealthy with no need to work?

And you accomplished this you claim while making the girls pay for the dates?

You should have kept going- with your great resources of time, energy and money, you could have banged 180 girls for free in 2013!

I appreciate the skepticism, but please let me assure you that I'm telling the truth. I greatly admire your posts here (it took me like a week to read the entire "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread before deciding to join) so if you'd be interested in speaking over the telephone I'd be happy to give you a call and discuss further as I don't anticipate it taking more than 5-10 minutes to convince you.

Anyhow, I bang multiple chicks per day - all of them on out of town trips. Yes, as a matter of fact I did bang them all on the first date because I only see them once. Banging or not there is never a next time. I'm 31/33 thus far, with my only two failures being with strippers - who have WAY too much game for me to hack. I now screen against strippers heavily. Most I have banged in one day is 6 and fewest in one day is 2. It's either multiple chicks or none because I only have the hotel for so long before I have to head back home where I am NOT single. I also do not feel comfortable doing this in my hometown.

I did make the girls pay for the dates, but sometimes it could just be her bringing over some drive through or a sandwich and I ate in the room. I don't do this for free food as I travel on an expense account, it's moreso to test her for submissiveness which will be key to getting the bang. I also believe that the more you make a girl invest in you the more likely she is to bang.

Post: #308

(01-07-2014 03:16 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Deleted

I bet this was gonna be a good post!

(01-08-2014 12:51 AM)Closer68 Wrote:  10/13-12/13, I banged 31 chicks running SA game.

I'm praying that you are being honest with us..

Still waiting for more details. Care to breakdown your strategy???

Post: #309

Gio, let's just say that I'd like to draw attention to what just about all of the chest beater's few posts have been about and the use of RVF terminology despite being new.

First of the month flashbacks.

Post: #310

I think SA means "Seeking Arrangement", i.e. gaming the women on that website. But I'm still naturally skeptical of these claims.

Post: #311

I'm not terribly skeptical of the 31 in a couple months off of SA. I did 4 in a week in a much lower population area without any trouble at all other than getting somewhat burned out myself. I did NOT try and do that for an extended period of time.

6 in a day however....

Post: #312

Counting notches and shooting for sheer quantity for the sake of quantity should be a temporary thing. Don't get me wrong, I definitely find the conquests of some members here pretty impressive (and I won't pretend to have the ability to match them anytime soon), but get a couple "goals" out of your system and then move past that shit, in my opinion.

There's a lot more to life and after a while I think not getting beyond the habit of making your tally a high priority is a sign of stunted personal development. Also seems like a recipe for banging women you don't really need or want to just to add another bang to your count.

Are you enjoying pussy and your interactions with women? Improving yourself enough to maintain or increase options? Enjoying life? That's what really matters.

Just my cents.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #313

(01-08-2014 01:48 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Care to breakdown your strategy???

I fly into various cities on business and line up a bunch of chicks on SA by telling them I'm a plastic surgeon looking to open up a new practice in town. I'm offering a $10,000 monthly allowance but I'm VERY picky and they're going to need to prove themselves in order to be my sugar baby. I qualify them, make them drive to me, make them pay for the date, and then use standard PUA game to go for the bang. I believe the key reason I'm having so much success is that my value proposition is no longer looks, personality, or simply "game," but rather serving as a blank canvas upon which they can project all of their little hamster's stupid fantasies.

(01-08-2014 05:25 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Gio, let's just say that I'd like to draw attention to what just about all of the chest beater's few posts have been about and the use of RVF terminology despite being new.

First of the month flashbacks.

I've been a member of another board for 8 years and my entire posting history is there for you to view. I was so excited about my SA discovery that I started posting there about it and they banned me, so I joined this website instead.

Here's the thread in question (they merged two threads into one): http://terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?...nd-Retired

(01-08-2014 06:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I think SA means "Seeking Arrangement", i.e. gaming the women on that website. But I'm still naturally skeptical of these claims.

It's good to be skeptical. If you're interested, I recommend testing it out yourself and letting us know how it goes.

(01-08-2014 08:09 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I'm not terribly skeptical of the 31 in a couple months off of SA. I did 4 in a week in a much lower population area without any trouble at all other than getting somewhat burned out myself. I did NOT try and do that for an extended period of time.

6 in a day however....

First of all, I'm a HUGE fan of your posts on the "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread. You guys didn't help me get any of these notches, as I discovered everything on my own prior to finding the thread, but it was awesome to see what has and hasn't worked for others.

Regarding 6 in a day... Yeah. I've been a bit of a notch whore and I probably need to slow down and enjoy each individual conquest but I was going for numbers. I'm not claiming to have satisfied each of these women sexually by any means. It wasn't even that satisfying to me beyond the first 2 or 3 in a day, more like a chore actually, but I was going for the glory.

Post: #314

(01-08-2014 11:37 AM)Closer68 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:48 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Care to breakdown your strategy???

I fly into various cities on business and line up a bunch of chicks on SA by telling them I'm a plastic surgeon looking to open up a new practice in town. I'm offering a $10,000 monthly allowance but I'm VERY picky and they're going to need to prove themselves in order to be my sugar baby. I qualify them, make them drive to me, make them pay for the date, and then use standard PUA game to go for the bang. I believe the key reason I'm having so much success is that my value proposition is no longer looks, personality, or simply "game," but rather serving as a blank canvas upon which they can project all of their little hamster's stupid fantasies.

(01-08-2014 05:25 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Gio, let's just say that I'd like to draw attention to what just about all of the chest beater's few posts have been about and the use of RVF terminology despite being new.

First of the month flashbacks.

I've been a member of another board for 8 years and my entire posting history is there for you to view. I was so excited about my SA discovery that I started posting there about it and they banned me, so I joined this website instead.

Here's the thread in question (they merged two threads into one): http://terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?...nd-Retired

(01-08-2014 06:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I think SA means "Seeking Arrangement", i.e. gaming the women on that website. But I'm still naturally skeptical of these claims.

It's good to be skeptical. If you're interested, I recommend testing it out yourself and letting us know how it goes.

(01-08-2014 08:09 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I'm not terribly skeptical of the 31 in a couple months off of SA. I did 4 in a week in a much lower population area without any trouble at all other than getting somewhat burned out myself. I did NOT try and do that for an extended period of time.

6 in a day however....

First of all, I'm a HUGE fan of your posts on the "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread. You guys didn't help me get any of these notches, as I discovered everything on my own prior to finding the thread, but it was awesome to see what has and hasn't worked for others.

Regarding 6 in a day... Yeah. I've been a bit of a notch whore and I probably need to slow down and enjoy each individual conquest but I was going for numbers. I'm not claiming to have satisfied each of these women sexually by any means. It wasn't even that satisfying to me beyond the first 2 or 3 in a day, more like a chore actually, but I was going for the glory.

Closing 31/33 opportunities are Hall of Game numbers. Mariano Rivera would be quite envious. Salute!!!

Post: #315

That other web forum thread consist of you mostly arguing with the regulars.

If I had such an extensive history of p4p, as it's evident you have from that board, I wouldn't really come to this type of forum and put it out in the open.

Post: #316

(01-08-2014 02:44 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  Closing 31/33 opportunities are Hall of Game numbers. Mariano Rivera would be quite envious. Salute!!!

(01-08-2014 04:14 PM)Vicious Wrote:  That other web forum thread consist of you mostly arguing with the regulars.

If I had such an extensive history of p4p, as it's evident you have from that board, I wouldn't really come to this type of forum and put it out in the open.

Closer68, I am afraid your big baller claims are about to attract some v close scrutiny from the Roosh V community.

Post: #317

(01-08-2014 04:14 PM)Vicious Wrote:  That other web forum thread consist of you mostly arguing with the regulars.

True, yet incomplete. My entire 8 year posting history mostly consists of me arguing with the regulars. My entire life on this earth consists of that sort of thing. I'm not a regular guy by any means.

(01-08-2014 04:14 PM)Vicious Wrote:  If I had such an extensive history of p4p, as it's evident you have from that board, I wouldn't really come to this type of forum and put it out in the open.

Once I was no longer single and couldn't openly date or run public game, I decided P4P was the best way to go. Not something I'm ashamed of or looking to hide from RVF. At this point, however, I see no need for P4P, as SA game provides the sort of anonymous, novel encounters I seek. Once I started denouncing P4P, the mods on the other site banned me and suggested I join a dating forum. At first I was pissed but then I realized that I had outgrown the only forum I'd ever been a part of and decided to join RVF. Do you feel that I don't belong here?

(01-08-2014 05:15 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  Closer68, I am afraid your big baller claims are about to attract some v close scrutiny from the Roosh V community.

I'm here to help anyone who is interested in learning from my experiences and will answer all questions truthfully. I can't control anything beyond that. I'm not here trying to gloat but I will say that I started life as a huge AFC (lost my virginity AFTER college) so I take great personal satisfaction in the fact that I've been able to turn it around to such a degree. I find tremendous fulfillment in helping others do the same.

Post: #318

(01-08-2014 11:37 AM)Closer68 Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 01:48 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  Care to breakdown your strategy???

I fly into various cities on business and line up a bunch of chicks on SA by telling them I'm a plastic surgeon looking to open up a new practice in town. I'm offering a $10,000 monthly allowance but I'm VERY picky and they're going to need to prove themselves in order to be my sugar baby. I qualify them, make them drive to me, make them pay for the date, and then use standard PUA game to go for the bang. I believe the key reason I'm having so much success is that my value proposition is no longer looks, personality, or simply "game," but rather serving as a blank canvas upon which they can project all of their little hamster's stupid fantasies.

(01-08-2014 05:25 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Gio, let's just say that I'd like to draw attention to what just about all of the chest beater's few posts have been about and the use of RVF terminology despite being new.

First of the month flashbacks.

I've been a member of another board for 8 years and my entire posting history is there for you to view. I was so excited about my SA discovery that I started posting there about it and they banned me, so I joined this website instead.

Here's the thread in question (they merged two threads into one): http://terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?...nd-Retired

(01-08-2014 06:22 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I think SA means "Seeking Arrangement", i.e. gaming the women on that website. But I'm still naturally skeptical of these claims.

It's good to be skeptical. If you're interested, I recommend testing it out yourself and letting us know how it goes.

(01-08-2014 08:09 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I'm not terribly skeptical of the 31 in a couple months off of SA. I did 4 in a week in a much lower population area without any trouble at all other than getting somewhat burned out myself. I did NOT try and do that for an extended period of time.

6 in a day however....

First of all, I'm a HUGE fan of your posts on the "Seeking Arrangement Game" thread. You guys didn't help me get any of these notches, as I discovered everything on my own prior to finding the thread, but it was awesome to see what has and hasn't worked for others.

Regarding 6 in a day... Yeah. I've been a bit of a notch whore and I probably need to slow down and enjoy each individual conquest but I was going for numbers. I'm not claiming to have satisfied each of these women sexually by any means. It wasn't even that satisfying to me beyond the first 2 or 3 in a day, more like a chore actually, but I was going for the glory.

Has anyone tried to replicate this guy's "seeking arrangement" method?

If he's right, it seems like every guy on this forum should be doing the same because it would mean poon paradise for everyone on the forum.

Post: #319

There is a huge thread on SA here and yes many of us have had great success with it. I've banged a few from there without any cash outlay and only spending money on hotels/room service - things I wanted.

Post: #320

(01-11-2014 12:23 AM)Consul Wrote:  Has anyone tried to replicate this guy's "seeking arrangement" method?

If he's right, it seems like every guy on this forum should be doing the same because it would mean poon paradise for everyone on the forum.

I'm very interested in hearing from others on this topic. I have an upcoming trip and I am going to make a concerted effort not to be a notch whore this time.

Post: #321

(01-11-2014 12:23 AM)Consul Wrote:  Has anyone tried to replicate this guy's "seeking arrangement" method?

If he's right, it seems like every guy on this forum should be doing the same because it would mean poon paradise for everyone on the forum.

Not true.

Everyman has a different level of game.

A guy with bad game can use the exact same method but he will get different results.

Post: #322

(01-17-2014 12:34 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(01-11-2014 12:23 AM)Consul Wrote:  Has anyone tried to replicate this guy's "seeking arrangement" method?

If he's right, it seems like every guy on this forum should be doing the same because it would mean poon paradise for everyone on the forum.

Not true.

Everyman has a different level of game.

A guy with bad game can use the exact same method but he will get different results.

This is ABSOLUTELY correct. I have shared my results with numerous friends and none of them have what it takes to execute no matter how much coaching I provide. I think I'm just further along the "dark triad" path than the vast majority of people.

On the other hand, they have had success playing to their own strengths. Case in point, the "tall white guy" friend meets up with them, keeps it vague, flashes a smile, bangs. Money never changes hands and the girls are just happy to be with him. The "guy with money" friend prefers to meet up with them, bang them by showing off his car and pad, and send them off with a couple hundred bucks, never seeing them again.

Post: #323

(01-08-2014 11:37 AM)Closer68 Wrote:  I fly into various cities on business and line up a bunch of chicks on SA by telling them I'm a plastic surgeon looking to open up a new practice in town.

Do you give any proof of you being a plastic surgeon? How do they just believe you straight off like that. Don't girls usually research that kind of thing? (to make sure you are actually a real plastic surgeon)

Post: #324

Girls want to live the dream. They won't check unless things get more serious down the line.

A few might, but the vast majority will not if you comport yourself properly.

Besides, they have very little, if any, info to go on before first meeting.

You don't tell her your life story beforehand do you?

Hell, they don't even know my last name.

Post: #325

(01-18-2014 06:40 PM)younggamer1992 Wrote:  Do you give any proof of you being a plastic surgeon? How do they just believe you straight off like that. Don't girls usually research that kind of thing? (to make sure you are actually a real plastic surgeon)

I give them absolutely nothing. Don't give these chicks too much credit their little hamster wants to believe the bullshit fantasy so bad they'd believe any lie I came up with. I prefer the plastic surgeon angle as it gives me license and opportunity to neg them up and down lol. "You know with a little work I could totally straighten your nose out." "Your boobs would look amazing with a slight lift." Shit like that.

(01-18-2014 06:50 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Girls want to live the dream.

Totally. All girls are fucking retarded on some level, you know? Like how is it possible for overweight, suburban, short-haired, soccer moms to live their lives believing their husbands don't want to bang every college chick they come across. How do women convince themselves that their husbands won't find them less attractive as they age? Only explanation I can come up with is that they're retarded lol.