Post: #26

(12-11-2013 12:14 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  I'd love to go hunting, even though I'm vegan. haha.

Post: #27

(12-11-2013 12:36 AM)soup Wrote:  I'm vegetarian, and I don't care what some MGTOW/manosphere faggot thinks about it: I also get pussy. Who cares?

Dalip Singh is a Hindu, I'm pretty sure, which means he consumes dairy, and is not a vegan (although, the warrior caste in Hindu culture was allowed meat). Also, being Hindu, means his ancestors were likely vegetarian as well, so it's in his genes to to do well with no meat in his diet.

Post: #28

Vegan Powerlifter Sets World Record.


Link.

Post: #29

I'm not vegan, but the whole "real men eat meat" thing is bullshit.

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Post: #31

^^^
It is bullshit, Soup, in the sense that it's unbalanced.
My motto would be: real men eat EVERYTHING.

Even insects (the food of the future...more protein than meat).

Now check out this video of Bear Grylls munching on a gag-inducing larvae.

Post: #32

curious how do you get some essential vitamins and minerals that are only found in meat,eggs and dairy. Specifically ...
Choline an essential mineral really only found in egg yolk
Direct vitamin A found in eggs and meats which is different than beta carotine found in vegtables
b12 which is only found in animal sources
zinc from food since its usually in high quantities in seafood and meat.

Post: #33

Good points in this video, and proof of performance too.

The editors put in some annoying music at the beginning but it dies down quick enough...

Post: #34

(12-11-2013 01:18 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  Good point in this video, and proof of performance too.

The editors put in some annoying music at the beginning but it dies down quick enough...

Doesn't prove that not eating meat isn't "manly"

Post: #35

(12-11-2013 01:14 AM)bacon Wrote:  curious how do you get some essential vitamins and minerals that are only found in meat,eggs and dairy. Specifically ...
Choline an essential mineral really only found in egg yolk
Direct vitamin A found in eggs and meats which is different than beta carotine
b12 which is only found in animal sources
zinc from food since its usually in high quantities in seafood and meat.

Don't eat any eggs.




One great source for Vitamin A Sweet Potatoes, and another, well, most dark leafy greens. Carrots are great too.


The B12 from meat isn't really absorbed that well into the body. So even meat eaters are technically B12 deficient too, just not as severely deficient as vegans. Our ape ancestors got their B12 from eating bugs, and food/water with fecal contamination.

The best way to get B12 for both vegans and meat eats is from a pill.

With Zinc, you can get plenty of zinc from Cocoa, Spinach, Nuts, Beans...

Post: #36

But where is the choline in the egg? Is it in the yolk or the white ?

Post: #37

If a man looks good, performs well and is generally 'manly' on a certain diet, then who are we to hate?

I believe we're anti 'the stereotype' here, not anti 'the exception to the rule'? That goes for diets, political leanings, woman et al.

I get plenty of disbelieving looks for not eating carbs.

Diet is an very complex thing. We are all still evolving a lot slower than our diets. The agricultural revolution was yesterday in evolutionary terms, leading me to support paleo/keto. However, gut flora and small adaptations within communities also have a bearing on what you run best on and it's fair to say that one size doesn't fit all.

Post: #38

(12-11-2013 12:34 AM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Same reason it leans conservative. The red pill is about truth.

Conservatives are about truth? When did this happen?

Not to threadjack, but that's steaming pile of dogshit. Conservatives INVENTED sexual repression.

Post: #39

(12-11-2013 12:45 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  Vegan Powerlifter Sets World Record.


Link.

That guy built up his size on a steady diet of meat. He's been bodybuilding since the 90s - "Patrik went vegetarian in 2006 and went vegan in 2011".

Once you get big enough you're not going to tear down enough muscle to require that much protein anyway - you can maintain a certain size without eating meat at all.

So if you're a limp-wristed mangina you can stay that way indefinitely on a vegan diet. It's not conducive to muscle gain.

Besides which, this guy set a "world record" in something that's fairly obscure. I'm not saying he's a weak dude, but it's not like this is a bench press or squat record. It's not as hard to go out and set a "world record lift" where there is little competition.

Post: #40

Pure vegetarian is extremely unhealthy. One of the hidden "benefits" of a vegetarian/vegan diet is that the brain starves and shrinks as a consequence of lack of what the brain needs to stay healthy in vegetables - FAT.

Vegans become insufferable is a consequence of their unhealthy, brain-damaging diet.

Post: #41

(12-11-2013 02:20 AM)Guanyanyo Wrote:  Pure vegetarian is extremely unhealthy. One of the hidden "benefits" of a vegetarian/vegan diet is that the brain starves and shrinks as a consequence of lack of what the brain needs to stay healthy in vegetables - FAT.

Vegans become insufferable is a consequence of their unhealthy, brain-damaging diet.

Avocados.

Post: #42

I'm perfectly happy admitting that someone can be a vegetarian and vegan and still have a good, nutritious diet.
But most vegetarians / vegans don't. Fact of the matter is human bodies are evolved to eat animals, and if you're not getting meat in your diet you need to ensure you supplement in other ways.

Post: #43

I haven't met a cool vegan person yet. They all seem kind of whacked out...

Vegeterians, on the other hand, are in a different boat.

No leather? No eggs? Please...

Post: #44

you need to take pills for the vitamin b12 but everything else you can get with vegies, beans, grain, starch, fruits.

I am not vegan at all, but I have considered it.

Post: #45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34n6s-17...ata_player

Post: #46

When the machines rise up to take over the world, it won't matter if you are vegan or eat meat. Enjoy life now while we still can.

Post: #47

you guys are all missing the big difference between a vegan diet and a meat diet.... Your Omega 3 to 6 ratio....You can eat all the vegan shit you want but you will not lower your ratio.... Only things like fish, pastured eggs, grass fed beef and grass fed butter to name a few will bring that ratio closer to 1 to 1.... In north america the ratio averages 1 to 40 because of all the processed food, legumes and GMO...

Also the notion that veganism is somehow good for the environment and not cruel is so far from the facts...Obviously these brain dead hippies have never worked on a farm.... In order to combine a field you kill multiple mice, birds, gophers and once and awhile a deer gets sucked into the combine.

The great thing about vegans is there is no way they are going to last another generation before they all figure out their nuts are shriveled, massive wrinkles and of course the strokes and heart attacks that will plague them

Post: #48

(12-11-2013 04:28 AM)BIGINJAPAN Wrote:  you guys are all missing the big difference between a vegan diet and a meat diet.... Your Omega 3 to 6 ratio....You can eat all the vegan shit you want but you will not lower your ratio.... Only things like fish, pastured eggs, grass fed beef and grass fed butter to name a few will bring that ratio closer to 1 to 1.... In north america the ratio averages 1 to 40 because of all the processed food, legumes and GMO...

Also the notion that veganism is somehow good for the environment and not cruel is so far from the facts...Obviously these brain dead hippies have never worked on a farm.... In order to combine a field you kill multiple mice, birds, gophers and once and awhile a deer gets sucked into the combine.

The great thing about vegans is there is no way they are going to last another generation before they all figure out their nuts are shriveled, massive wrinkles and of course the strokes and heart attacks that will plague them

Where's the evidence?

Post: #49

have to say, this is one of the more interesting threads I've read in a while, good work guys!

Post: #50

(12-11-2013 12:36 AM)soup Wrote:  I'm vegetarian, and I don't care what some MGTOW/manosphere faggot thinks about it: I also get pussy. Who cares?

One of the biggest, toughest bastards I've trained with for years surprised me by telling me he was vegan. It had simply never come up, as we'd never eaten together. I asked if that would cause problems, and he said "Do I look weak?" Dude's jacked as hell.

Weirdly though, he never gave me an explanation for why. I asked a couple of times, he was evasive, so dropped it.

I figure if i don't have to endure sanctimonius lectures about it, I could give two shits if people eat meat or not.

Quote:One of the hidden "benefits" of a vegetarian/vegan diet is that the brain starves and shrinks as a consequence of lack of what the brain needs to stay healthy in vegetables - FAT.

Off the top of my head: Olives. Canola. Avocados. Peanuts, almonds and cashews are around 50% fat. Walnuts are 65%. Cocoa. I'm sure there's more.

Quote:Choline an essential mineral really only found in egg yolk

Also in Spinach. Brocolli. Cauliflower. Cabbage. Peanuts. Almonds. Kidney Beans. Sunflower and soy lecithin, (an extremely common ingredient in many foods, used instead of egg lecithin, because it's cheaper to manufacture).

I've had a severe egg allergy my entire life. I have none of the symptoms of choline deficiency.