Post: #276

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads

....

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

Wow...very cool

Post: #277

@vicious I am just trying to explain in laymans terms how Internet fraud works. Definitely indecipherable if you don't know the industry, Rex highlighted the main points

@ali it's not really criminal it's a gray space at best. For example the product may be legit but the sale not.

You click and it says "get this deal now! 5 minutes remaining!" With a clock on the screen ticking down that later shuts down and offer can no longer be found = illegal and not up to FB/google standards. But if you have a cloaker that tricks FB/google employees but not legit regular users then.....

That example right there should help you see how quickly people can get scammed. People are dumb. Incredibly dumb.

Post: #278

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  Some are shady enough to not even ship product haha! Then they hit your credit card with random charges that say "food" for like $4 a month that average people don't pick up on.

I think a lot of guys on here underestimate how dumb the average person is. I'm a member of a private forum that has a lot of guys doing this type of stuff. I remember a dude explaining some "book" he was selling. After x amount of pages there was nothing more than gibberish. Most of the buyers were too lazy/stupid to even get that far through the product. They never even realized it. The few that did couldn't do anything because, like WestCoast was saying, they company was fraudulent.

Whenever I buy things online I try and only use Visa Gift Cards. Paying $27 for a $25 gift card is a lot cheaper than paying $9.99 for an eBook and then getting stuck with monthly recurring charges.

Post: #279

^ correct.

So think about it you fraud a person in say brazil. Then they try to catch your fake company in china and complain to the Chinese government over your $7 purchase....

Lol good luck!

That's real scam because actually the banks, the guys all you guys "hate" actually lose money. They have to give the credit back to the customer for being frauded by a shell company in china.

Some of them have large legal cases being built against them, it's a crazy industry.

I just pay for shit via paypal, that way you can shit down anything immediately. That intermediary is huge.

Your info, paypal, company

Or...

Your CREDIT --> company...

Post: #280

(12-07-2013 07:40 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads

....

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

Wow...very cool

Cloaking isn't THAT difficult to do or understand. I've done it in the past but never put the time in and expanded like I should have. The software is readily available and there is no reason a guy can't start doing it tomorrow.

Add cookie stuffing in and you can start cooking with gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cookie_stuffing

http://www.businessinsider.com/ebay-the-...013-4?op=1

Post: #281

(12-08-2013 02:49 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:40 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads

....

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

Wow...very cool

Cloaking isn't THAT difficult to do or understand. I've done it in the past but never put the time in and expanded like I should have. The software is readily available and there is no reason a guy can't start doing it tomorrow.

Add cookie stuffing in and you can start cooking with gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cookie_stuffing

http://www.businessinsider.com/ebay-the-...013-4?op=1

Whats easier, cloaking or cooking meth? Curious minds want to know.

Post: #282

Cooking meth will get you laid.

Post: #283

Lol cloaking much harder I am housed! But yeah meth is easy, cloaking is hard.

Post: #284

Holy Shit - is this thread still gasping for air?!

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #285

Haha it's funny. When I drop legit info that goes over the heads of RVF I know I am still way ahead of the game.

It is almost better for me than for the forum bc there is always one random soul who knows what I am talking about.

Post: #286

The only thing hard to grasp about what you posted is how you get OCD serious about something everyone else is just goofing off about.

Post: #287

^ hahaha. That's fine!

Post: #288

wtf happened? I thought this thread was about banging 100 chicks?

Post: #289

(12-08-2013 12:14 PM)Vicious Wrote:  The only thing hard to grasp about what you posted is how you get OCD serious about something everyone else is just goofing off about.

Westcoast does get "OCD serious" about things that most men "goof off" about.

Money: He is deadly serious about getting it and keeping it. The dude is in his 20s and already talking retirement!!!

Pussy: He has improved his game about 10000% in the last 2 years. Possibly, the fastest learner I have ever seen..

Most men underachieve in these areas, because they are "goofing off". Westcoast has gotten more money and pussy than most men will see in their entire lives, because he is serious about it.

Post: #290

(12-06-2013 10:58 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 10:42 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  G, how old are you?

Notice my this is how you shut the G down from boisterous posting you ask him a personal question and *poof* he's gone.

If he did read this (he did) he's have to go thru 3000 of his posts to see what his accurate age should be today. He is not aging online though.

(12-08-2013 05:51 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  Holy Shit - is this thread still gasping for air?!

I think G is still down on an 8 count. He'll get back on the thread when he catches his breath.

Post: #291

I didn't realize this thread was still all about me.

Post: #292

(12-08-2013 03:36 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 02:49 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:40 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads

....

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

Wow...very cool

Cloaking isn't THAT difficult to do or understand. I've done it in the past but never put the time in and expanded like I should have. The software is readily available and there is no reason a guy can't start doing it tomorrow.

Add cookie stuffing in and you can start cooking with gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cookie_stuffing

http://www.businessinsider.com/ebay-the-...013-4?op=1

Whats easier, cloaking or cooking meth? Curious minds want to know.

Cooking meth easier but more likely to put you in the big house.

Post: #293

(12-08-2013 03:36 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 02:49 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:40 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads

....

If you listen to a Facebook earnings call the info is there.

Wow...very cool

Cloaking isn't THAT difficult to do or understand. I've done it in the past but never put the time in and expanded like I should have. The software is readily available and there is no reason a guy can't start doing it tomorrow.

Add cookie stuffing in and you can start cooking with gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cookie_stuffing

http://www.businessinsider.com/ebay-the-...013-4?op=1

Whats easier, cloaking or cooking meth? Curious minds want to know.

cooking meth? I'm a chemist, and I can tell you that it's not hard synthesizing meth, or coke, etc, but the main part is:
Having a discrete lab
Having the STARTING reagents for the materials that you want to make in the end.
Getting the reagents without raising a red flag to the Feds.
Selling the end product without getting stabbed in the process.

So the ideal place for making this stuff is well…school/university/etc.

Personally I'd rather do cyber than deal with the reagents. Besides, with cloaking, I can always get customers with little to no cost, but on drug synthesis there's no guarantee that I'll have consistent buyers for the end product without having to deal with cartels, mob bosses, etc to move powder.

Post: #294

(12-07-2013 07:17 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  ^ you're not plugged into Internet marketing cats. My best friend does this for a living, he makes $350K a year. No way you're breaking into the industry today, you don't know how to make a cloaker or have a cloaker.

Basically you have illegal accounts that trick and cloak google. You have created software that is better than google and can trick it into selling illegal ads.

Example you click on an ad one Facebook it takes you to an ad that is not legal according to Facebook or google standards. However because they have linked it up on Facebook, when a Facebook employee clicks on it, it goes to a legitimate ad. This is what people mean by "scammers". In Facebook and google. Nifty huh?

cut for readability...

Jesus, there is more to the internet marketing industry than cloaking, cookie stuffing, fake blogs, bullshit rebills.

Saying you can't get into the industry now is ridiculous. The internet has changed the landscape of business. It has lowered the barriers of entry to many markets.

Post: #295

http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/...omen-m.png

If you hit 50 you are part of the 1%. So I am sure 100 is almost 0.5%

Edit: Source of data http://www3.norc.org/gss+website/

Post: #296

(12-08-2013 04:15 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  Cooking meth will get you laid.

Would bang.

Post: #297

^^^I'd need to see the teeth first.

Post: #298

has a thread ever gone further off the rails than this one?

Post: #299

(12-08-2013 04:54 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 12:14 PM)Vicious Wrote:  The only thing hard to grasp about what you posted is how you get OCD serious about something everyone else is just goofing off about.

Westcoast does get "OCD serious" about things that most men "goof off" about.

Money: He is deadly serious about getting it and keeping it. The dude is in his 20s and already talking retirement!!!

Pussy: He has improved his game about 10000% in the last 2 years. Possibly, the fastest learner I have ever seen..

Most men underachieve in these areas, because they are "goofing off". Westcoast has gotten more money and pussy than most men will see in their entire lives, because he is serious about it.

I have no doubt about his efforts and skills, a little less wound up and I'm sure he'll be the NYC equivalent of McQueen.

Post: #300

I knew a few young, average looking guys that banged 70+ women, guys under 26. You better believe their standards were VERY low. Rock bottom low. One guy I invited over to my place in college tried to pull the fattest, ugliest chick from a party. Plus 1?!?

But these guys were low value men, and with bad logistics. They racked up high numbers because they banged 2s and 3s.

The younger guys that are banging cuter girls are gaming in hot spots (LA, NYC, Miami, etc...) and they are either very handsome, and/or have good resources and bank roll an apartment downtown for solid logistics ( think "hey, let's stop at my place before we hit the next club" See what I mean? Huge advantage).

These guys don't have to sit in a car for 30 minutes driving to work like most, they can just walk down a busy mainstreet that's downtown (more daygame opportunities) It's mostly logistics. As Roosh said, LIVE DOWNTOWN, in a city, and work downtown. Be in the hot spots.