Post: #1

At least if your goals exclude pure hedonistic pleasure or reproduction. Reproduction is ruled out of the equation by modern contraception. What is left is hedonistic pleasure, most women don't live up to the expactations you might have about sex. If you are not invested in her pleasure and are not present in the moment, you masturbate while fucking.
Fucking different women or having ONS wears off.
How do you guys draw REAL motivation to game, it's not all about sex drive. Lifting and eating a good diet helps, I know. My last conquest was fueled by anger and I was determined to fuck that evening. How do you pull out that almighty bang force, what is your goal (notch count,.....)?

I'm drunk and its 4 am.

A sexless life is shit either.

Post: #2

I don't think too much into it. It's fun and I want to do it.

I wanted to save the world when I was younger, but I did a bunch of drugs and stopped giving a fuck, so now I just wanna bang hotties and see the world.

Post: #3

How often have you been beating it?

Post: #4

Are you happy with yourself, and the state of your life? Are you making as much money as you want, working the kind of job you want? Do you have a network of friends with whom you maintain good relationships, and do you have a good relationship with your family?

Anytime I ever felt nihilistic about the game it was because there was something about myself I really didn't like or something about the state of affairs i was in that I had to reevaluate and eventually change. If this is the case for you (and even if it isn't, there is always room for self-improvement even in the face of contentment) you would probably be better served looking within and trying to better yourself rather than try to fill the void with sex.

Either that, or travel abroad and chase pussy there.

Post: #5

Personally, I love, love, love the company of multiple feminine women. I love the contrast of their surrender/submission to my dominance.
I also LOVE giving women multiple orgasms. It's one of my greatest joys. This, of course, inevitably compels them to surrender/submit and become my willing servants. I LOVE THAT SHIT!!!
Those are some things that motivate me.

The whole "fucking different women wears off" thing is case-specific. I've not yet tired of it, and I'm 38 years old.
I honestly think that getting tired of fucking different women is a matter of declining health; a healthy, youthful (which should last a lifetime), virile man is built to want to fuck different women... until death.

ALSO: A fulfilling sex life and powerful orgasms are essential for optimal mental/emotional health.
So the "pure hedonistic pleasure" is a catalyst for a better quality of life.
And again, seems to me a sign of an aberration in the organic functioning of the body to not seek healthy, "pure hedonistic pleasure."

Post: #6

I've found that sex just for sex does become boring at some point.

The desire for pickup and new partners is partly driven by the desire for novel experiences. When the experience is no longer novel, but predictable or played out, it's less pleasurable.

The solution this is to change your game. The same way using the same line on a girl will eventually become boring, using the same pickup style, targeting the same type of girl, or seeking the same experiences will also eventually become boring.

Most one night stands are what a friend of mine calls "empty calorie connections" - it feels like you're being nourished, but you're not. When men start talking about all the ways they can please a woman he just smiles and says "ah, but how well does she please you?"

Seek more nourishing experiences. Go for higher quality women, deeper connection, travel...

Part of the struggle I've noticed (at least for me) is finding women I respect, who can support me in more than just my need to get off. Many American women have rejected the feminine, and in doing so forgotten how to nurture men and support then in their purpose.

Elliot Hulse has a video about this somewhere...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9rZ0LNIk...1y&index=6

Post: #7

Pussy is over-rated.

I wish I was more focused in other areas of life. I don't give a fuck how hot the girl is, after you bust, she ain't worth shit.

Post: #8

(11-30-2013 10:39 PM)IQVX Wrote:  How often have you been beating it?

Masturbation is only a minor influence for my drive to bang women. It has always been determined by more intense emotions. Emotions of achievement or pride. Those emotions do not always reside within myself and I think that is part of the answer to my question.

Post: #9

Quote:I'm drunk and its 4 am.

A sexless life is shit either.

Post: #10

(11-30-2013 10:55 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Seek more nourishing experiences. Go for higher quality women, deeper connection, travel...

Part of the struggle I've noticed (at least for me) is finding women I respect, who can support me in more than just my need to get off. Many American women have rejected the feminine, and in doing so forgotten how to nurture men and support then in their purpose.

I'm pretty cynical about this unless by "higher quality" you mean they make your dick jump faster.

As for the OP, saying anything tied to your instincts is a "waste of time" means you're becoming too detached from your own human nature. That's become increasingly common since people are surrounded by technology all the time, but it's also dysfunctional. Things like fucking, exercising, and eating properly are more essential than most people realize because they're doing shit that truly is a "waste of time" like watching TV, playing video games, and pounding away at their phones.

"To forget one's purpose is the commonest form of stupidity."

-Friedrich Nietzsche

Post: #11

Damn it, I'm on the fence on whether I should go out tonight, I got two different voices in my head trying to talk me into/out of it. I have no wingman and the bars have been really tough lately, it could prove to be a suicide mission. If I stay home, I save money, get a good nights sleep, etc., but I will probably jerk off and get no pussy. If I go out, I spend money, drink alcohol and feel like shit tomorrow, but there is the off chance that I will meet a horny chick and I will get laid.

I think sex is a waste of time if you aren't necessarily having sex with the women you truly want to fuck, if she's some mediocre 6 that you're banging just because you are on a dry spell and want to bust a nut, it's only a step above masturbation IMO.

That said, what it really boils down to is your time and your money, I've gone out a bunch, spent a bunch on drinks, drained my energy levels in the pursuit of pussy only to go home with my dick in hand. At a certain point, you got to look at the return on investment, that said success always starts with an attempt. If you don't make any attempt, then you basically are giving up on game, and are on the path to being one of those MGTOW types that either just subsists off internet porn or does p4p to get pussy.

Post: #12

I've actually thought of this quite a bit recently. I had very little sex in the beginning of my life and have had a lot of sex as of late but now it is kind of boring to me and I think I'm ready to focus on improving my life and a few other things.

I think like most things a good balance is key. I was spending way too much time just focusing on getting laid and now that I have accomplished that I will focus on life improvement things while still balancing out a little game in my life so I don't forget how to pick up girls.

I think it can help also focusing on going for better quality of girls.

I can definitely understand getting burnt out with having sex and the time and effort that goes into it. Even when it's easy it takes time and effort.

Post: #13

This is a pretty brave thread, and I've been laughing out loud at some of the comments.

I understand and sympathize with what some of the guys here are saying. Sometimes you get a feeling of futility and pointlessness to the great quest, and it can get you down. Many guys won't admit it for pride reasons, but we all feel it from time to time.

We all feel it every now and then, and it is a feeling that has visited me at 3 or 4 in the morning on empty streets in big cities all over the world.
I even tried to capture this feeling in a recent article for ROK called "A Night In Lapa" a few weeks ago.

But the good news is that the feeling will pass. Don't get discouraged. Don't make chasing pussy the end-all, be-all of your life. It isn't. Of course sex is a key part of the male identity. Of course getting laid is important. But you should focus on improving yourself first, putting yourself first, and make that your primary goal. The game will come, just take it easy and don't get frustrated.

Expect to fail much more often than you succeed. Learn to savor the bitterness of failure. With women, it's all a numbers game.

And if the low quality of the women is getting you down, it only shows you have a soul. American women are not the measure of the world's women. Try to focus on foreign women, and try to get outside the US, to really experience true femininity.

Post: #14

Thinking of myself as a Schopenhauer influenced misanthrope and sometimes as a nihilist I often question those self labels.. I do argue for ethical treatment of others because they are in the same shitty condition they had no choice in getting into. I express friendliness towards my friends and other polite friendly people and joy while in their company. Just for the same reason that drinking coffee alone sucks I like to share the road with a fellow traveler wherever I go, and due to my sexual orientation that traveler of choice is a girl. because I'm hooked on oxytocin and dopamine and serotonin. but take those neurotransmitters and testosterone away.. ot that would really be hell

sex is a shitty shitty tool to bond another creature to myself to have brunches with. but fuck me if I am going to drink that coffee alone

Post: #15

(11-30-2013 10:21 PM)void Wrote:  At least if your goals exclude pure hedonistic pleasure or reproduction. Reproduction is ruled out of the equation by modern contraception. What is left is hedonistic pleasure, most women don't live up to the expactations you might have about sex. If you are not invested in her pleasure and are not present in the moment, you masturbate while fucking.
Fucking different women or having ONS wears off.
How do you guys draw REAL motivation to game, it's not all about sex drive. Lifting and eating a good diet helps, I know. My last conquest was fueled by anger and I was determined to fuck that evening. How do you pull out that almighty bang force, what is your goal (notch count,.....)?

I'm drunk and its 4 am.

A sexless life is shit either.

Sort of

If you need to ask, then you are probably posting on the wrong forum.

Post: #16

I considered getting banned for it, but the replies suggest I'm not the only one having thoughts like that after a night in vain.

Post: #17

It seems your ego is not invested much which is good

But a some of the force behind some pickup is purely for ego. Roosh calls it ego sex

Post: #18

(12-01-2013 07:12 AM)void Wrote:  I considered getting banned for it, but the replies suggest I'm not the only one having thoughts like that after a night in vain.

I have thought similar thoughts on the pointlessness of casual sex. I assume that it's due to the fact that one has protected sex, which does not lead to impregnation. Natural selection made sex potentially pleasant, so that people want to have sex. But condoms negate the biological purpose of sex.

Each day that passes, one gets closer to death, and nothing is being done about preparing one's succession. Modern women are unmarriageable and unbearable. Having no children means the end of one's bloodline. One's ancestors spin in their graves. Society does not get renewed. We die, slowly.

Fornicating while Rome burns...

Post: #19

Alcohol may fuel some guys night after night to have many positive experiences, but for those without warrior's blood, alcohol can in fact make you depressed. Also going out late and fucking up your sleep pattern can add to this.

There are physical factors at play I feel many players ignore.

Whenever I feel down and out I cut the alcohol, cut going out at night, and approach only girls that I think are hot during the day. No more smoke and mirror bad makeup mediocre 6's and wasted nights.

When my mood lifts and my game is higher, it is a better time to attack Night Game and reap the rewards. It is just healthier as well.

Post: #20

It's all relative.

Sex can be one of the most memorable experiences of our lives or it can be a waste of time..

It just depends on the situation the each man finds himself in.

We all know guys that have wasted countless amounts of time, money, and energy in pursuit of sex.

Would that time have been better spent building a career and accumulating wealth and power???

Maybe..

It depends on the man and his unique situation.

Sex can make you the happiest man alive or it can kill you. It's all about who, what, when, where, and why you are doing it..

Getting a DUI because you were high and wanted to bang a 4 is worse than a waste of time, its a waste of life.

Banging a foreign cutie while you are on vacation is one of lifes great thrills.

Post: #21

Yeah but why do guys think they need wealth and power in the first place?

Post: #22

(12-01-2013 03:44 PM)soup Wrote:  Yeah but why do guys think they need wealth and power in the first place?

Freedom

Post: #23

I've learned that sex doesn't really matter until you aren't getting any.

Post: #24

(11-30-2013 10:21 PM)void Wrote:  At least if your goals exclude pure hedonistic pleasure or reproduction. Reproduction is ruled out of the equation by modern contraception. What is left is hedonistic pleasure, most women don't live up to the expactations you might have about sex. If you are not invested in her pleasure and are not present in the moment, you masturbate while fucking.
Fucking different women or having ONS wears off.
How do you guys draw REAL motivation to game, it's not all about sex drive. Lifting and eating a good diet helps, I know. My last conquest was fueled by anger and I was determined to fuck that evening. How do you pull out that almighty bang force, what is your goal (notch count,.....)?

I'm drunk and its 4 am.

A sexless life is shit either.

You might have low testosterone.

Post: #25

(12-01-2013 03:26 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  It's all relative.

Sex can be one of the most memorable experiences of our lives or it can be a waste of time..

It just depends on the situation the each man finds himself in.

We all know guys that have wasted countless amounts of time, money, and energy in pursuit of sex.

Would that time have been better spent building a career and accumulating wealth and power???

Maybe..

It depends on the man and his unique situation.

Sex can make you the happiest man alive or it can kill you. It's all about who, what, when, where, and why you are doing it..

Getting a DUI because you were high and wanted to bang a 4 is worse than a waste of time, its a waste of life.

Banging a foreign cutie while you are on vacation is one of lifes great thrills.

I agree 100% with this.

I think the guys (not just in this thread) who say girls aren't worth anything once you've busted your nut aren't shagging hot girls. If you're shagging hot girls, truly hot girls, you don't kick them to the kerb after one night. You want to keep them around and you do.

The only reason you don't keep them around is because you've got other truly hot girls in your "rotation".

I've got experience shagging some very hot girls, and I've got experience shagging rotters.

Not once with the very hot girls did I think the next day "right, she's done with now" and ended things with her.

With the rotters, yes, every time. I never wanted to see them again. This is where I believe this attitude of "girls are worthless" stems from - guys consistently shagging rotters.

If you're focussed on building wealth, becoming location independent, building a great body and being the best you can be, there's nothing like true emotional support from a really hot girl with a great personality to help you achieve what you want to achieve in life.

If you're happy fucking girl after girl, then so be it. As I said, the guys who are nailing the 9s and above consistently can get away with the attitude of "they're not worth anything after sex". For most, I'm not having that. You just sound bitter and I don't believe for one second you're having sex with hot girls.

Just like girls can tell what guys are getting laid, guys can tell what other guys' sex lives are.

I mean, if it's your thing to have sex with loads of rotters and label women as worthless beyond sex, then so be it. I'm not knocking your lifestyle because it's your choice, but I don't think your opinions have much merit.