Post: #1

Hi guys, question here..I know this is player forum so forgive me if this question is inappropriate.

I've been on a few dates with a FOB Chinese woman and she's very conservative - she's never even been inside a bar, she's never done drugs, doesn't drink, is close to her family etc...basically a well raised non-American woman (I'm in Los Angeles).

The thing is, many guys might find her boring. In her spare time all she does is go and and eat with her (nearly all FOB Chinese female) friends or watch movies. She's not fat BTW, she works out and is in shape.

Would you guys consider a woman like this for LTR material? She wants to settle down have kids and she's not the partying type.

BTW I'm still banging women on the side, so I don't have one-itis & I haven't banged her yet so if the sex is shitty then I'd walk away anyway.

Post: #2

The only criteria should be: Do you want to?

Post: #3

Not to sound flippant, but by describing her using the phrase, "many guys might find her boring" aren't you implicitly saying that you do as well? I may have misread, but if you do find her boring in any respect, I would say you have answered your own question and you should Next.

If it helps you any, the deciding thing for me would be whether she has any "girl game" (lots of posts on the sphere as to what that is).

Post: #4

A few thoughts on this:

First, there's a huge difference between what could be considered a "boring lifestyle" and a truly "boring personality". While I don't have any problem with the former, the latter is usually umbearable. The thread title suggests she's literally a boring woman while your post simply describes the lifestyle of a traditional young non-American woman. You need to figure out which one it is...

Another thing to consider is your energy level. I don't see the point of pursuing a LTR of any kind with a laid back kind of girl if you're a high energy level guy who likes to party with his gf all the time. Again, where do you fit on that scale?

One last thing, how is her not doing drugs or drinking a bad thing? Would you rather try to find a potential LTR girl in a bar mostly filled with club sluts?

Post: #5

Keep her around for the steady pussy. Bang other girls on the side. When you find a better one dump the previous. Game 101.

Post: #6

(11-18-2013 08:01 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  I haven't banged her yet

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

You've been on "a few dates" with her, which I take to mean at least 3, and no bang yet. I would hope that you've at least kissed her by now(?)

Being as conservative as she is, the bang (if it happens - which is never a sure thing), may take considerable time and effort.

If you think she's worth it, fair enough, put in the time and effort - but considering her as a prospective LTR shouldn't even be entering your mind at this early stage.

Post: #7

Not sure if this is a troll.

If you find a chick physically attractive, best believe you aren't the first one or the only one.

And because she is a) a woman, b) attractive she is also hypergamous. She need not seek out other guys, they will find her just as you did and seek to offer her more than you have. especially if she goes to the gym and works out.

Indeed, a truly conservative woman stays trim primarily through her genetics and eating habits. She often appears plain in her appearance.

And as we all know, a woman's primary weapon and worth is how she looks. By nature and nurture, she uses her appearance to get what she wants. They are accustomed to asking for help, even when they are perfectly capable. And when chivalry gets you to offer your assistance without her asking. ... they rarely turn it away. What woman says no to power?

So the LTR with a boring woman only offers you a false sense of security.

If you believe that a man can talk a woman into sex, then you also believe a woman, your woman, can be talked into sex.

The man with game, the understanding of a woman's options, psychology, and behavior, rarely enters a LTR, and never does so with any kind of delusion.

WIA

Post: #8

Post: #9

If she is down to TRY those things from time to time, sure. Or, if you can have fun in other ways with her (getting her to picnics in nature and occasionally fucking her there, playing video games, etc.) then why not?

Post: #10

Usually yes. I don't seek intellect or excitement in a woman, although it's nice when it is found. And sexual attraction depends on her looks and kindness, both of which are not connected with "boring".

Post: #11

I don't think it's a troll - only that the OP is having a hard time choosing words to explain it properly.

Women in the US, UK, Australia, etc. are obsessed with "personality," which basically means following the latest trends in fashion, music and lifestyle, behaving like sluts and using the latest slang.

"Boring" women as the OP described are what you will often find in places with little or no Western influence. They're actually a lot more pleasant to spend time with. You don't have to constantly entertain them as if you're some kind of circus clown, and you can have a normal conversation with them.

Non-boring women, on the other hand, are the kind which has emerged since the late '60s. They're worth nothing more than a pump-and-dump affair.

So to the OP, I would say absolutely, marry one of those boring women. *

* note that if you find your boring woman in Russia, their idea of marriage is different and you can only really expect it to last 15 years. For whatever reason, they follow their emotions more than other nationalities I know. I put it down to Western Christianity vs. Orthodox mentality.

Post: #12

As Terry Pratchett once said,

"Boring is good. Boring means nothing bad is happening."

Post: #13

@DaveR

It would be a mistake to assume the girl's culture overrides her biology.

She may seem "boring" to the outsider, but within her culture she may be one of the worst. Chinese girls from the mainland still want Alpha bucks. Ukrainian chicks and other eastern Europeans are just as mercenary. Ask any man about the women in his life and you will hear an earful.

WIA

Post: #14

(11-19-2013 10:30 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @DaveR

It would be a mistake to assume the girl's culture overrides her biology.

She may seem "boring" to the outsider, but within her culture she may be one of the worst. Chinese girls from the mainland still want Alpha bucks. Ukrainian chicks and other eastern Europeans are just as mercenary. Ask any man about the women in his life and you will hear an earful.

WIA

I agree, WIA. I'm against the idea of marriage myself, as I think it's a flawed concept and disadvantages the man. But for those who still buy into it, I think women who were brought up in a feminist culture are the worst choice.

Post: #15

(11-18-2013 09:33 PM)Jura Wrote:  A few thoughts on this:

First, there's a huge difference between what could be considered a "boring lifestyle" and a truly "boring personality". While I don't have any problem with the former, the latter is usually umbearable. The thread title suggests she's literally a boring woman while your post simply describes the lifestyle of a traditional young non-American woman. You need to figure out which one it is...

Another thing to consider is your energy level. I don't see the point of pursuing a LTR of any kind with a laid back kind of girl if you're a high energy level guy who likes to party with his gf all the time. Again, where do you fit on that scale?

One last thing, how is her not doing drugs or drinking a bad thing? Would you rather try to find a potential LTR girl in a bar mostly filled with club sluts?

She's a boring lifestyle person, her personality is fine. My energy level is pretty chill, I'm in my late 30's and I'm over the partying thing myself.

Her not doing drugs or drinking is not a problem with me. I don't do drugs and I rarely drink. There's no chance in hell of me LTRing a woman I met in a bar or a club. Most of the people that I know who are married met their partners through social circle, school or work.

(11-18-2013 10:05 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

You've been on "a few dates" with her, which I take to mean at least 3, and no bang yet. I would hope that you've at least kissed her by now(?)

3 dates, no kiss yet. I know that sounds beta but I have other women on the side so I've no strong urge to jump her bones. After I left our date I drove to one of my regulars and banged her.

(11-19-2013 07:57 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Indeed, a truly conservative woman stays trim primarily through her genetics and eating habits. She often appears plain in her appearance.

She takes care of herself, looks good but she doesn't dress sexy. Any guys who've dealt with FOB Chinese women will have an idea what I'm talking about.

(11-19-2013 10:30 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  @DaveR

It would be a mistake to assume the girl's culture overrides her biology.

She may seem "boring" to the outsider, but within her culture she may be one of the worst. Chinese girls from the mainland still want Alpha bucks. Ukrainian chicks and other eastern Europeans are just as mercenary. Ask any man about the women in his life and you will hear an earful.

WIA

I have to disagree there, I'm around Chinese people a lot and some of the women are married to total betas.