Post: #1

I have no problem abusing and fucking the Jesus out of random girls. In particular, when it comes to girls i dislike i fuck like a champ !

However, when it comes to girls i have feelings for( yes beta) i have trouble banging them hard. Just feel like I'm defiling or disrespecting them.

Is this normal ?

Post: #2

I don't know if it's normal or not, but you should get over it.

Give the best dick to the women you love. It's the right thing to do.

Post: #3

It can be.

It stems from you putting her on a pedestal.

Good girls like to be fucked hard.

Bad girls like to be fucked hard.

All girls like to be fucked hard.

If you're not fucking her 'right', you'll find out soon enough. She'll get that listless stare immediately after and you'll feel a slight tension.

That tension = her not being satisfied.

Drop the feelings, drop your balls and tear that pussy up.

Post: #4

(11-06-2013 07:42 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  It can be.

It stems from you putting her on a pedestal.

Good girls like to be fucked hard.

Bad girls like to be fucked hard.

All girls like to be fucked hard.

If you're not fucking her 'right', you'll find out soon enough. She'll get that listless stare immediately after and you'll feel a slight tension.

That tension = her not being satisfied.

Drop the feelings, drop your balls and tear that pussy up.

It sucks when you lose inspiration, but you got to listen to your dick. Maybe he doesn't want to bang the girl out.

Make her leave and do something else and then fuck her or get another girl.

Post: #5

I used to have this problem too and its just another form putting someone on a pedestal. Girls want to please you more then they want to get off. If you enjoy dick smacking and fucking her in the ass shes going to want to give that to you as long as you take these things in the right manner.

If you don't fuck her like a man she is going to leave you like a boy.

Post: #6

"Maybe he doesn't want to bang the girl out."

In that case, yes, time to eject.

Generally happens after 3-4 bangs haha.

Post: #7

No, can't say I've ever had this problem. Perhaps it's related to the whole madonna/whore-complex I've heard told about? Never suffered from that either (not that I'm somehow "better" than those who do; just that my neuroses and hang-ups happen to be of a different sort).

Post: #8

Im the opposite

The more I like a girl and have a good vibe with her the rougher and more dominant I am. Its an expression of desire and passion

OP youre confusing being rough and dominant with being hostile and cruel. They are not the same at all. Believe me girls are very aware of the difference

This is an inner game issue; youre stuck in that beta mindset and pedastalizing girls u like.

Post: #9

It's the Madonna-Whore Complex.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna–whore_complex

Post: #10

Lets see. You're moving your dick in and out of her hole. If there is disrespect or defilement going on, it originates in your beliefs, in your frame and in your head, not in your physical movements.

It is not like you have a choice either to be be hard and fast or being slow and soft.

Try mixing up hard and fast with tenderness and softness and somewhere in between.

Having feelings is not beta, it is human. Do not think that Alpha males are robotoid sex machines who do not have feelings as that is just not accurate in the real world.

Post: #11

(11-06-2013 07:49 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  "Maybe he doesn't want to bang the girl out."

In that case, yes, time to eject.

Generally happens after 3-4 bangs haha.

This is sad in a way, but it happens to me all the time.

I need to strange. If a girl keeps her distance, she can probably continue to see me.

If she gets close, I get bored really quick. Maybe I just haven't found girls that are attractive enough.

Post: #12

(11-07-2013 03:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

(11-06-2013 07:49 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  "Maybe he doesn't want to bang the girl out."

In that case, yes, time to eject.

Generally happens after 3-4 bangs haha.

This is sad in a way, but it happens to me all the time.

I need to strange. If a girl keeps her distance, she can probably continue to see me.

If she gets close, I get bored really quick. Maybe I just haven't found girls that are attractive enough.

This, but you need to find your 8 that wants nothing more to please you. It's why the most attractive women never have problems keeping alpha men. They satisfy both urges for a good amount of time.

Post: #13

Why stop at an 8?

Post: #14

No.

Post: #15

(11-07-2013 08:35 AM)frenchie Wrote:  This, but you need to find your 8 that wants nothing more to please you. It's why the most attractive women never have problems keeping alpha men. They satisfy both urges for a good amount of time.

What do you mean?

They get kicked to the curb every day.

I would go as far to say that the most attractive women Always have problems keeping alpha men.

Post: #16

^^^^

Post: #17

(11-07-2013 09:10 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 08:35 AM)frenchie Wrote:  This, but you need to find your 8 that wants nothing more to please you. It's why the most attractive women never have problems keeping alpha men. They satisfy both urges for a good amount of time.

What do you mean?

They get kicked to the curb every day.

I would go as far to say that the most attractive women Always have problems keeping alpha men.

Yes. Look at Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley. He was with one of the most attractive women on the planet and he was caught getting a blowie from a disgusting hooker.

Post: #18

the more I like her the rougher I get.

Post: #19

It's not the vigor, it's the humiliation. Some girls don't like you calling them names etc. In fact I had one that liked being called a slut ( requested it) but didn't want to be called a "whore."

Some girls feel it more like an athletic event, they bore me-- they can't get feminist equality shit out of their minds.
Others want to be degraded, so they feel like they're being abused and all of it's out of control.

Sometimes you can go too far with the degradation shit and they get turned off. Even the ones that wanted humiliation
wanted it to be built up to slow.

Post: #20

No, in fact the more I like her, the more innocent she looks, the more I want to...bring her down to the gutter.

Post: #21

As far as liking and girls are concerned, I definitely don't have trouble fucking the shit out of girls that a lot of other guys like.

Post: #22

The ones I like more, are usually because that have their insecurities in check.

They let me tear down their walls without reverting back to their insecurities as a crutch, both in bed, and while socializing, so they get fucked better by default of desire.

Post: #23

I had the same problem. I tried to make myself an honest guy by joining a dating site. I only went out on one date and then we dated for a year and a half. Because I had taken the time to get to know her via online messages, then several dates before we had sex, I could never talk (too) dirty, fuck her crazily hard, or cum on her face.

It was weird. I just respected her too much, I guess. Maybe that's why I'm not with her now. I would watch porn over having sex with her. And, eventually, started have sex with other girls before we broke up. I guess I gotta figure out a good balance between leaving the "respect" at the bedroom door. Or getting it through my head that rough sex and dirty talk is not synonymous with respect.

Post: #24

(11-19-2013 07:52 AM)Silicon Valley Bachelor Wrote:  I had the same problem. I tried to make myself an honest guy by joining a dating site. I only went out on one date and then we dated for a year and a half. Because I had taken the time to get to know her via online messages, then several dates before we had sex, I could never talk (too) dirty, fuck her crazily hard, or cum on her face.

It was weird. I just respected her too much, I guess. Maybe that's why I'm not with her now. I would watch porn over having sex with her. And, eventually, started have sex with other girls before we broke up. I guess I gotta figure out a good balance between leaving the "respect" at the bedroom door. Or getting it through my head that rough sex and dirty talk is not synonymous with respect.

Nothing wrong with that.. you can have a long-term girl who you support, make love to, and care about. You can also have flings on the side with women you don't have that same respect for. Just make sure you keep it secret... arrange 'business trips' or something.

Roosh posted an article about the five aspects of happiness, but I think it's better to focus on six, because sex and love are separate in my mind:
- sexual conquests. I.e. spreading your seed "Genghis Khan" style.
- love / bonding. This is called 'pair bonding' in psychology, and it's important to humans and many other mammals.
- health
- friends
- fulfilling work or intellectual pursuits
- wealth / money