Post: #26

(05-09-2011 03:50 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(05-09-2011 03:03 PM)Fisto Wrote:  This whole thread is retarded. Blurb, I know you're a young guy with a lot of questions, but read the forum rules about posting (and at least put this in the right category)

Also, you're assuming that game is about being deceitful and it doesn't have to be. There are plenty of guys on this forum who don't have to lie, and in fact, find women want them more when they realize that he is in high demand.

Everyone here is an adult and talks to women who are also adults. The only moral/ethical issue in game is whether to deceive or not. If your worried about the Christian repercussions of Game just be up front with your intentions.

Blurb isn't calling us evil manipulators. He's calling attention the fact that we are committing the sin of wanton lust directly against God's wishes as listed in the New Testament.

Oh yeah....

I forgot all about lust...

Post: #27

(05-09-2011 04:31 AM)blurb Wrote:  For those that have taken the plunge into becoming alphas, how does one reconcile/reason the biggest "what if"

What if you're wrong, there really is a God who punishes this type of stuff, and you're basically screwed for all eternity?

I'm not trying to be a prude or insult anyone. I just want to know how people have dealt with this issue.

...Searching for Truth[/font]

But when you get there you get 72 Virgins!!!! (oh, wait...)

Post: #28

Where is the problem ? Game is exactly that, a game. You don't have to use physical violence or abuse women etc.

And don't forget - it's the women who want game the most, not men !

I actually don't believe much in this "alpha" stuff because it is silly and an intelligent adult woman should see through it. The reality is though that 99% of the female population wants this bullshit.

Post: #29

(05-10-2011 02:35 PM)sheesh Wrote:  Where is the problem ? Game is exactly that, a game. You don't have to use physical violence or abuse women etc.

And don't forget - it's the women who want game the most, not men !

I actually don't believe much in this "alpha" stuff because it is silly and an intelligent adult woman should see through it. The reality is though that 99% of the female population wants this bullshit.

I agree fully with the bolded sentence. It's the immaturity of certain females that force a guy to waste his efforts on having to game. We should be able to go on dates with a woman if she is sexually interested in us and we should be able to have sexual intercourse and decide whether we want to take it further (LTR) or not.

Where is the harm in that?

Post: #30

(05-10-2011 04:19 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-10-2011 02:35 PM)sheesh Wrote:  Where is the problem ? Game is exactly that, a game. You don't have to use physical violence or abuse women etc.

And don't forget - it's the women who want game the most, not men !

I actually don't believe much in this "alpha" stuff because it is silly and an intelligent adult woman should see through it. The reality is though that 99% of the female population wants this bullshit.

I agree fully with the bolded sentence. It's the immaturity of certain females that force a guy to waste his efforts on having to game. We should be able to go on dates with a woman if she is sexually interested in us and we should be able to have sexual intercourse and decide whether we want to take it further (LTR) or not.

Where is the harm in that?

This somewhat explains why my date went so well last night. I didn't have to spit hardly any alpha game. I was just my regular cocky/funny self with this 34yo and she was literally, vocally, begging me to come home with her. Now, it took a bit to get to that point but it's true that immature women respond much better to game than divorcees and more mature women. I had no problem tearing that shit up.

I like how we de-railed this thread.

Post: #31

Quote:I actually don't believe much in this "alpha" stuff because it is silly and an intelligent adult woman should see through it.

Okay, I bolded the important part.

Quote:The reality is though that 99% of the female population wants this bullshit.

Now, you've answered your own dilemma.

You should see where your empirical data (experience) disagrees with your assumption. So , your assumption must be wrong. And it completely is. Now, as an exercise, fix it to reflect what the reality is.


But beyond all of that, its gene survival and fitness that make it so that women are hardwired to respond sexually to alpha behavior. Its hard to fault them for that, although it doesn't change the fact that they think, reason, and behave like children so that they CAN"T reason past their response to alpha behavior. From a genetic perspective, being able to do that would be bad for the species.

Another way to look at it, and this is very real, is that "alpha" for women is like a a woman's good looks for men. So, saying that women should "be adult enough" to see past alpha is almost precisely equivalent to saying that men should be "adult enough" to see past a woman's looks and like ugly women. Yeah, its basically true, but in most cases its never gonna happen.

Post: #32

Hydrogonian: I have no issue with the fact that women are looking for certain character traits and physical properties in men. We do the same. What annoys me is the fact that a lot of women want the bizarre exageration of alphaness that can only be achieved through playing a role. I don't like fake breasts, conversely, I find it ridiculous that every regular guy nowdays thinks that he has to mimic Chuck Norris to get laid when it's painfully obvious that he is just a regular guy from next door.

I know that my views are idealistic and won't get me any further but I do feel that the situation in the dating world has become bizarre.

Roosh explained it very well in his blog article http://www.rooshv.com/feminism-killed-the-nice-guy




Again, the world doesn't give a damn about how I think the world should be and I know that one has to adapt to survive.

Post: #33

(05-11-2011 04:59 AM)sheesh Wrote:  Hydrogonian: I have no issue with the fact that women are looking for certain character traits and physical properties in men. We do the same. What annoys me is the fact that a lot of women want the bizarre exageration of alphaness that can only be achieved through playing a role. I don't like fake breasts, conversely, I find it ridiculous that every regular guy nowdays thinks that he has to mimic Chuck Norris to get laid when it's painfully obvious that he is just a regular guy from next door.

I know that my views are idealistic and won't get me any further but I do feel that the situation in the dating world has become bizarre.

I agree with that. A lot of women can't even handle a real alpha male. If I had to quote a real alpha male, it would be one of those prison cats.

The type that just waltz in, push they dycks inside some chick and then try and fcuk her cousin without giving much of a valid excuse. Those type of dudes are not against punching a dime in the mouth either if she steps out of line...that's real caveman shyt.

Now the problem with some of those women is that they live in fantasy. It's like people who think they can own a lion and have it maul everyone else but think they are immune to the lion's savagery because they have some sort of delusional understanding with the creature.

I've seen it happen a few times and in those instances, I have no pity. But that's my affliction in this pool, the curse of logical reasoning.

Post: #34

(05-11-2011 04:59 AM)sheesh Wrote:  Hydrogonian: I have no issue with the fact that women are looking for certain character traits and physical properties in men. We do the same. What annoys me is the fact that a lot of women want the bizarre exageration of alphaness that can only be achieved through playing a role. I don't like fake breasts, conversely, I find it ridiculous that every regular guy nowdays thinks that he has to mimic Chuck Norris to get laid when it's painfully obvious that he is just a regular guy from next door.

I agree. Your best solution is to get into incredible shape and then be yourself. Being in incredible physical shape will do a lot of the 'alpha work' for you, although not all. But women will feel a certain amount of attraction to a physically fit / muscular body. That can be your version of exaggerated alphaness. Then, just run decent game and you should be fine.

But your right, meek mike next door getting tatted up and cultivating a loud mouth gets old after a while. I've had to defend myself against some betas irrationally trying to make physical plays for dominance in the past few years. You learn how to avoid it, and TRUST me, women can tell the difference between a real alpha and a fake alpha. Just be yourself, be cool, get in shape, and run good game.