Post: #1

Kind of notice this girl at a distance, she's standing there looking at me as I walk. I keep walking and I see her again but up close through
another window and she looks over and we make eye contact but then she looks away quickly.

I don't go into this coffee shop ever, sure I could go in there and buy a coffee, but what if I don't get served by her? Do I keep coming back until I do? And if i do, wtf do I say?

Post: #2

I got this from McQueen so all props to him:

Go to her till specifically

Greet smile.

Say something like "You must be having fun in this job"
She'll reply
Tease on it and leave her something to work off
Her reply
Same as above but add a little like when do you like to be bad and party?
She'll say whatever, whilst she's doing this get your phone out and start creating a new contact
Tell her to put her number in and that you'll party sometime
Sip your coffee, say something smart ass and stroll off with a swag

Text her later telling her where you're going to meet.

I can't tell you everything to say word by word, but that's a structure there.

Post: #3

Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

Post: #4

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

It's not sleazy! It's a direct openess to how you are a high quality man that knows what he wants.

Post: #5

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

What is your 'style'?

From our evidence it's - to not have an interaction with a chick you are evidently interested and to come on a forum and ask about how to have an interaction with said chick

Post: #6

(10-03-2013 06:05 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

What is your 'style'?

From our evidence it's - to not have an interaction with a chick you are evidently interested and to come on a forum and ask about how to have an interaction with said chick

Yeah I know, for me to say "do you like to be bad and party" is totally not me.

Post: #7

(10-03-2013 06:10 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Yeah I know, for me to say "do you like to be bad and party" is totally not me.

It doesn't have to be that line. Why not just say 'I bet you spend your time away from work making coffee too' or some other crap that you can link onto meeting up.

Why not turn it into a challenge?

'I bet I could make a better coffee' blah blah... Girls love a challenge.

Post: #8

(10-03-2013 06:10 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 06:05 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

What is your 'style'?

From our evidence it's - to not have an interaction with a chick you are evidently interested and to come on a forum and ask about how to have an interaction with said chick

Yeah I know, for me to say "do you like to be bad and party" is totally not me.

Yea for real, dont you ever use that line lmao.

Post: #9

The line isn't "do you like to be bad and party?".

It's "so when do you MAKE time to be bad and party?".

And...

It's quite affective.

My question is to the OP: Do you like to get laid?

If so, might want to step out of your comfort zone and try new angles. It's like the cats who say "but I just want to be myself". Cool.

Post: #10

(10-03-2013 09:21 AM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  The line isn't "do you like to be bad and party?".

It's "so when do you MAKE time to be bad and party?".

And...

It's quite affective.

My question is to the OP: Do you like to get laid?

If so, might want to step out of your comfort zone and try new angles. It's like the cats who say "but I just want to be myself". Cool.

Yeah ''so when do you make time to be bad and party''sounds more like a player line, the first line ''do you like to be bad and party'' sounds lame as hell.

Post: #11

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

Right now your style is to not approach girls who are smiling at you and just keep walking.

Post: #12

How about just "Hi, I saw you over here. We had an intense little eye contact moment, so I wanted to come say hi." It's authentic, it's direct, and it works.

Post: #13

Yeah ''so when do you make time to be bad and party''sounds more like a player line, the first line ''do you like to be bad and party'' sounds lame as hell.
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For some reason when I read the "do you like to be bad and party" quote I immediately thought it sounded like something Steve Carell would say in 40 Year Old Virgin.

Post: #14

Holy fuck! You newbs are right, because sounding like a player is the worse thing in the world.

News flash: Girls love the bad boy and the obvious one at that.

I rest my case.

Post: #15

Come on guys, McQueen is a VIP host in a hotbed of clubs/partying. If you don't think his entire frame and the way he comes off screams this and that this line isn't completely congruent and GOOD given all this, you're really misunderstanding.

The line is good because it's calibrated to HIM and because it's talking about having fun and letting loose. ALL girls want to do this. Even the girls that don't want to get plastered, they still want to have a good time. If you're not a VIP host you could CALIBRATE and modify the line some to be a little more congruent to what you're putting out there and what you're about.

"When do you make time for having fun?"

(10-03-2013 05:52 AM)Stephenau Wrote:  Haha, that isn't my style, it's a bit too sleazy for me.

Either modify it to your style (which you've given us nothing more to understand it with) or just keep doing what you've been doing and expect different results.

Post: #16

A little surprised this situation has even generated this much commentary. OP, just say something. Say "elephant." Say "I have a cat." Doesn't matter. Go up to a girl you are attracted to and make intelligible speech sounds in a language that she understands. That, and only that, is your present mission.

Post: #17

Haha alright I'll try to give it a go.

Post: #18

The reason I posted is because I feel awkward going up to a girl in this situation and making conversation, I feel like I'm hassling her. I think I always have opportunities like this but I never do anything because I don't know where to start, it's always someone I don't know.

Post: #19

(10-03-2013 12:23 PM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  Holy fuck! You newbs are right, because sounding like a player is the worse thing in the world.

News flash: Girls love the bad boy and the obvious one at that.

I rest my case.

My viewpoint on this is bifold. Is that a word?

1) Most guys 98.573% never say ANYTHING and unless you are Justin Bieber walking past store (or whoever she rubs off to) SHE isn't going to open YOU. So NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, it's better than nothing.

2) I prefer the stupidest thing that comes in to my head because (a) it shows you're not scared to be entertaining. (b) One thing women are smarter at than men is enjoying conversational spontaneity without any productive goal in mind.

3) Failing that, McQueen is right , naked aggression also proves you're not scared of her, which means you would fuck her too, which is an opportunity for her, even if she turns it down.

Trifold I guess.

Post: #20

@OP:

My suggestion is to work on your inner game as well. You're already opening the girl from a position of defeat by believing you're 'bothering her'.

Flip your mindset to believing that it's her lucky fucking day that you picked her out to talk to.

You are what you think and this comes out loud and clear to chicks.

Post: #21

(10-03-2013 07:46 PM)Stephenau Wrote:  The reason I posted is because I feel awkward going up to a girl in this situation and making conversation, I feel like I'm hassling her.

Although guys brush off this feeling, I've battled it for years.

This is my philosophical justification and pragmatic view:

1) People need to have sex for the human race to exist.

2) Women are for the most part incapable of approaching, without which human beings can't have sex.
In other words, a woman can't have sex unless a guy approaches. It's like that fable: hell is where people can eat but only with three foot spoons.
Heaven is the same, but people feed each other with the spoons sitting across the table from each other 

3) Therefore unless you ( or some other guy) approaches, the human race will cease to exist.

AND FURTHERMORE they really don't mind it, usually like it, unless they are total bitches.

And for them, well, you can't please everybody, except by pleasing nobody, which loops back to the totally nihilistic lifeview one espouses by not approaching.

Post: #22

This also goes back to the abundance mentality. I don't know where you live OP, but unless you're in a really small town, understand that there are literally millions of sluts roaming the world and you have nothing to lose by approaching.

Now unless you're secretly a nome, then she was looking at which is a strong IOI and that means she's probably attracted to you. That's like a green light and odds are she's down to talk. Utilize Roosh's 100 Approaches exercise and start approaching like crazy.

Soon you'll love the high of approaching and before you know it blow-offs will turn into blowjobs.

Have fun with it. It IS called Game for a reason. It's fucking fun, if you allow it to flow and don't give a flying New York rat's ass fuck.

Post: #23

My most favorite time to enter a coffee shop is when I've been partying all night, haven't slept, still wearing the same clothes, and reek of booze. At that point, I'm on autopilot and and in the purest form of "don't give a fuck" mode.

Never sit down, just walk up to the girl and order.*

Her: What'll you have sir.
Me: Irish whiskey w/ 2 cubes ice.
Her: Lol sir we don't have alcohol
Me: *look around confused* Your bar sucks, how do you stay in business?
Her: We have coffee!
Me: Give me some whatever it is and don't spit in it like that order before me. I saw you.

Ramble ramble ramble. You guys get the point.



She'll know the deal. When they ask about the night before, I reply with, "I've yet begun to defile myself", or "Go to bed? Damn girl, round 3 just started". By now you should have or start getting openings to go for the number. Do it on the sly via smartphone or have her write it down on the napkin under your cup, which you should have placed.

At that point, I'm on autopilot and and in the purest form of "don't give a fuck" mode.


*Order anything other than straight black and you will look gay. B/C you are if you order a mocha/frappe/penis bean

Post: #24

delete

Post: #25

(10-03-2013 07:46 PM)Stephenau Wrote:  The reason I posted is because I feel awkward going up to a girl in this situation and making conversation, I feel like I'm hassling her.