Post: #101

(07-08-2013 08:37 PM)Pola Wrote:  Only by our complete blindness to how important makeup is,
a ugly woman like this, was elected "The Most Attractive Woman
on the Planet":

The moment I saw that I realised the staff of People Magazine are a) mainly female; b) all over forty, and c) desperate to culturally normalise old and busted as 'sexy'. Keeping trying, ladies. No-one's buying.

Post: #102

Post: #103

The before & after pics are stunning. I've banged this girl for a while who is a 6-6.5 w/o makeup, but rises at least 1.5-2 points when she puts on makeup. The sad part is she's put herself in a state of appearance that requires her to feel the need to be almost totally done up to even go to the store for something, which in itself is high-maintenance by definition.

If the sex wasn't so good, I'd knock her off based on looks pre-makeup. Funny too, the amount of attention she gets when done up well is night and day. If we haven't screwed in a while, she will always come over totally done up. I guess I'm guilty of falling for makeup seductresses.

Post: #104

Many times, even 3/10 woman, can pass as a 8/10 in the mind of guys who take the makeup actually as basis for rating a woman...

guys loving the makeup of women
is equivalent to girls rating a guy with a vibrator
instead of his dick, as being an amazing lover...

Post: #105

(07-10-2013 09:16 PM)Pola Wrote:  

She is still preety on the left.

Last chic you posted is beat with or without the cake-on

Post: #106

for most guys, this white woman without makeup is probably a 6.5/10, while with makeup she appears to be a 9/10

and the mexican woman without makeup she's hardly a 1/10, while with makeup she appears to be a 5.5/10

Post: #107

Her suddenly long hair in back that doesn't match her hair color or texture (See how it's too shiny?) is a nylon clip in extension that costs $7 at ghetto wig stores.
The nylon ringlet curls framing either side of her face (again a different hair color and texture) are $1 each with micro-clip ins at your local ghetto wig store.

She did this in a studio shot because if there's a strong wind, you're going to see parts of her hairdo fly away. And plastic clips-in are very uncomfortable to wear --they are definitely going to have to be removed as you get her in bed, or the clips will scrape the shit out of her head, even on a pillow.

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Post: #109

(05-27-2013 09:11 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 01:37 PM)uni Wrote:  Mark Zuckerberg's wife:

With makeup



Without makeup

Jesus. To have over $1 billion and have to fuck that? Fuck money, get game. Then get money.

Fuckin A, I'm so tired of hearing this shit.

Zuckerberg does NOT need an ounce of game for fuck sakes. He has enough money that there are PLENTY of model-quality girls who would easily throw themselves at him in a split-second.

This guy is not fucking that girl because he can't get one better looking. Geez, how the hell can you even get yourself to believe that for a moment? What's going on in your head to think that every guy in the world without one single exception wants exactly the same thing you do? He's banging her because he wants to and that's that. You don't need to understand it. It is what it is.

Post: #110

Great thread, everyone!

Now to make things simpler. It might be easier if we try and find some girlc that look good WITHOUT makeup.

Do any exist? Seems a girl is going to struggle to go past being a '7' without the boost of makeup.

Post: #111

Here is one pretty girl without makeup

Post: #112

her eyebrows have been done though^
I don't know if there are any pretty girls with natural eyebrows and no makeup

Post: #113

Would You Bang these ? :

Post: #114

(08-10-2013 05:13 AM)uni Wrote:  Would You Bang these ? :

A ladyboi pageant. what will they think of next? A drag queen pageant? oh they have those too.

Post: #115

True beauty stops at grooming to me.Once a women goes into painting on her face and weaving the hair of another human or an animal to her scalp,it becomes ugly.I still say that if women took care of their skin from jump then they wouldn't need to hide behind all that paint.That shit can't possibly be good for the pores.I see good looking, natural, no makeup chicks everyday.They are out there.Don't get me wrong, I'd smash a good looking made up chick any day of the week but to me chix that wear all that makeup ain't worth any kind of effort in the long term.Tons of vanity screams of insecurity to me.

Post: #116

(08-10-2013 07:52 AM)TheMachinist Wrote:  True beauty stops at grooming to me.Once a women goes into painting on her face and weaving the hair of another human or an animal to her scalp,it becomes ugly.I still say that if women took care of their skin from jump then they wouldn't need to hide behind all that paint.That shit can't possibly be good for the pores.I see good looking, natural, no makeup chicks everyday.They are out there.Don't get me wrong, I'd smash a good looking made up chick any day of the week but to me chix that wear all that makeup ain't worth any kind of effort in the long term.Tons of vanity screams of insecurity to me.

While I agree that too much makeup is a major turn-off, aren't you being a bit harsh?

If makeup didn't exist, the skin problem that are common to humans would be much more visible. Girls use makeup often to cover up zits and other blemishes. Then they use blush for a more youthful appearance. Etc., etc.

There are many psychological reasons that makeup can make a woman more attractive. And then there's the pure decorative aspect. Painting our faces seems to be part of every culture in the world and has been for eons.

A girl in modern society who doesn't use any makeup is going to get ignored for life unless she is genetically VERY gifted. You can't blame girls for using makeup.

Post: #117

Different strokes for different folks. I've never been into the warpaint and fake eyelash types. Just not my thing. I like women who are comfortable in their own skin.

Post: #118

(08-10-2013 07:55 PM)ImmoralPsychology Wrote:  If makeup didn't exist, the skin problem that are common to humans would be much more visible. Girls use makeup often to cover up zits and other blemishes. Then they use blush for a more youthful appearance. Etc., etc.

Painting our faces seems to be part of every culture in the world and has been for eons.

That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.

ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...

Post: #119

And by the way, nature which is really good looking, always keeps the flowers, animals and everything else in its natural form,
and natural form always looks very good for the last many millions of years: forests, rivers, animals, cats, lions, all the animals and the plants
look good naturally, without any need for overpaint or makeup.

The only exception is somehow the very ugly women that with the use of the industrial chemicals that are makeup,
manage to attract good quality guys that get fooled and cheated by the industrial chemical makeup...

Post: #120

(08-10-2013 09:00 PM)uni Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 07:55 PM)ImmoralPsychology Wrote:  If makeup didn't exist, the skin problem that are common to humans would be much more visible. Girls use makeup often to cover up zits and other blemishes. Then they use blush for a more youthful appearance. Etc., etc.

Painting our faces seems to be part of every culture in the world and has been for eons.

That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.

ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...

Sigh. I'll never understand why some people actually choose to remain ignorant.

Post: #121

I gave only rational, real-life and nature arguments,
while unfortunately you ImmoralPsychology only resorted to calling names and insults, and you have not given arguments for anything...

But in Asia, guys also use makeup to make themselves "pretty"
and sleep with other guys.

They are ladyboys, but they never say they are guys... until the tourists
unfortunately discover the real truth while in bed with them...

If majority of men would not be so much lured simply only by the
shining chemical "beauty" of the industrial makeup,
ladyboys would never fool almost all the men so well:



http://www.sojourns.com.sg/blog/wp-conte...24x696.jpg

Post: #122

(08-11-2013 12:56 PM)uni Wrote:  I gave only rational, real-life and nature arguments,
while unfortunately you ImmoralPsychology only resorted to calling names and insults, and you have not given arguments for anything...

I did what now? Please quote exactly where I called you names and insulted you. My last post explained why women wear makeup and that it has a strong psychological foundation and wasn't even a reply to you. My reply to you, regarding Zuckerberg's wife, while I admit might have been a bit harsh with the swearing, did not insult you. I was tired of these types of examples and my frustration came out in that post. To use a multi-billionaire's ugly wife as proof that money can't help a guy without game is just plain wrong. He chose her. Maybe he loves her. Maybe he trusts her. Maybe he just doesn't care about having a model for a girlfriend. Maybe a lot of things. But if there is one thing I would bet my entire life savings on right now, it's that Mark Zuckerberg can get his pick of model-quality looking girls with the snap of a finger. If you doubt that, then you need more experience with women.

Meanwhile, your reply to me was exactly what you accused me of doing (which ironically, I didn't even do):

Quote:ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...

Resorting to ad hominem attacks doesn't help you prove your point one bit. Sure, the inexperienced high school kids on the forum may fall for it but I have no doubt that the guys on here whose opinion I give a shit about would see right through you.

Quote:That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.

And by the way, nature which is really good looking, always keeps the flowers, animals and everything else in its natural form,
and natural form always looks very good for the last many millions of years: forests, rivers, animals, cats, lions, all the animals and the plants
look good naturally, without any need for overpaint or makeup.

The only exception is somehow the very ugly women that with the use of the industrial chemicals that are makeup,
manage to attract good quality guys that get fooled and cheated by the industrial chemical makeup...

Men have never used makeup? What do you call war paint used by Native Indians? Throughout Africa and in plenty of indigenous cultures even to this day? Western societies shun makeup on men now, yes, but even in western societies, men wore plenty of makeup and wigs too in the past.

You seem to misunderstand why women wear makeup in the first place. I pointed it out in my last post. Reread it. They do so to cover up blemished skin. They use it to mimic youthful and superior genetic features. The rose blush of a young girl's cheeks that happens naturally at 16 doesn't at 25 or 35 or 45. It's not just "very ugly" women that use makeup. It's anyone that wants to hide their flaws and highlight their best features and mimic a beautiful woman's more attractive attributes.

And the kicker is that this entire thread that YOU started is using as a premise, "look how ugly women are without makeup". You're specifically pointing out that women often only look attractive with makeup and that without it, guys wouldn't touch them! Do you not see the contradiction between that and "we should leave nature alone"???

How many of the women posted here do you think look better without their makeup? Tell me which ones. I'm curious to know. Your point that men are being deceived by makeup is not disputed. I tried to explain to you *why* a woman wears makeup, and you can't seem to grasp that. If you were one of these "ugly" women, you wouldn't wear makeup when you could use it so easily to your advantage? Sure you would.

Only women who have nice skin and are naturally very attractive could compete without makeup, but even then, when applied artfully, it has a decorative effect which many men find appealing.

You need to watch Desmond Morris's The Naked Ape. Go watch it before starting threads based on ignorance and misinformation.

Then, when you're done with that, come back here and explain to me the difference between wearing makeup and how deceptive it is, and getting your teeth straightened with braces (which hides the fact that your genes gave you gnarly teeth). Or when a guy slathers zit cream all over himself to remove pimples from his bacteria-infested skin which, if left up to nature would make him a lot less attractive to women as a mating partner. Or Rogaine. Or any number of other tactics men use to present a better version of themselves to women.

On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

Post: #123

(08-11-2013 12:56 PM)uni Wrote:  They are ladyboys, but they never say they are guys... until the tourists
unfortunately discover the real truth while in bed with them...


If majority of men would not be so much lured simply only by the
shining chemical "beauty" of the industrial makeup,
ladyboys would never fool almost all the men so well:

Now I understand why you're so strongly against makeup.

I'm sorry this happened to you, uni. I can't imagine how it must feel to reach down and grab a handful of wiener while you're getting blown by a dude. No wonder you're so angry.

I've never had that problem as I can spot the ladyboys a mile away. And if I ever found myself wondering whether it's a ladyboy or not, then she is obviously not a very attractive woman to being with, so I'd pass in that situation.

Perhaps instead of relying on makeup, you should concentrate on learning the biological differences that make men and women different. I'm not attracted to manly features in the first place though, so maybe that's why you got fooled?

Post: #124

(08-11-2013 10:56 PM)ImmoralPsychology Wrote:  On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

I have sympathy with most of what you're saying. For example, yes men in many eras and societies have worn makeup. Guys who doubt this fact and are too lazy to do research should watch period pieces like Amadeus or Barry Lyndon.

However, at the same time, as recently as the Victorian era makeup was a taboo among respectable women. A girl who wore makeup was virtually advertising that she was a harlot.

These trends change over time. But since makeup was a luxury for most poor people of both sexes throughout history, it's a fact that most young women usually did not wear extensive makeup. Go to any very poor country or region and this quickly becomes apparent, even today.

Personally, I like it when girls wear makeup. All but the most attractive girls look better with a modest amount. And the rest appear much more attractive with it. Guys who complain that much about girls having the advantage should consider lopping off their balls and trying makeup themselves. If I'm not mistaken Mystery and other so-called pickup artists have used it.

Post: #125

(08-11-2013 11:14 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(08-11-2013 10:56 PM)ImmoralPsychology Wrote:  On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

I have sympathy with most of what you're saying. For example, yes men in many eras and societies have worn makeup. Guys who doubt this fact and are too lazy to do research should watch period pieces like Amadeus or Barry Lyndon.

However, at the same time, as recently as the Victorian era makeup was a taboo among respectable women. A girl who wore makeup was virtually advertising that she was a harlot.

These trends change over time. But since makeup was a luxury for most poor people of both sexes throughout history, it's a fact that most young women usually did not wear extensive makeup. Go to any very poor country or region and this quickly becomes apparent, even today.

Personally, I like it when girls wear makeup. All but the most attractive girls look better with a modest amount. And the rest appear much more attractive with it. Guys who complain that much about girls having the advantage should consider lopping off their balls and trying makeup themselves. If I'm not mistaken Mystery and other so-called pickup artists have used it.

Exactly. A 'modest' amount of makeup.

This thread is stupid. 95% of the before and after pics of women show women who are ugly even with makeup on. Not as ugly, perhaps, but still unattractive. This thread is focusing on women who try to hide their ugliness with makeup, and women who just put way too much on, and it ignores the other 90% of the population of women that use makeup to highlight features and conceal their blemishes. If this thread were representative of reality, you'd never see a hot girl at the beach (because they all need makeup to look good, right?)

The solution to this is not to get angry about women wearing makeup. Some makeup can help a good-looking woman look great. Not much different from a guy wearing a suit instead of a torn t-shirt and tattered jeans. The solution is to learn how to see through the makeup and see the features behind it. For a bang, I don't care so much about makeup, but the women I've dated always looked good without it because I can see through it. It never served to hide their faces, only to decorate.