Post: #1

A completely self-absorbed woman thinks she is the Joan of Arc for the manosphere - having an epiphany the manosphere big dogs needs to find love with a woman.

The feisty woman:



Read her piece here

Read Vox's response on Alpha Game.

She brilliantly divined the manosphere elite need to leave the dirty half-house of misogyny and find true love with a female and rear many young.

She waxes at length with sex with alphas, pretending the experience is mirrored in an alpha's mind. Since Roosh, Roissy, etc. don't have the same experience, they must not be getting laid.

Woman: men do not have the same experiences as women when having sex. You would call it sexist if men claimed women have the same experiences in sex as men do, why is the reverse true? Finally - and most importantly - love cannot fix your problems. Jesus, that is such a popular and damaging stereotype. Only you can fix your issues; just because a dopamine floods your brain for six months at the outset of sexual attraction does nothing but put off dealing with your issues.

Still, this dustup is amusing, as is the site. It is the same old song and dance with women thinking people (alphas) can't understand their high value.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

Quote:Thoughts?

Don't give trolls attention.

Post: #3

Dopamine's one hell of a drug

Oh and wnb bangs raise up to high 2/10

And also someone should tell her the age old rule "the bigger the hoop, the bigger the hoochie". Girl is a total slut.

Post: #4

2Wycked, you've got great write ups at times but you also have a tendency to overanalyze. If you could find a middle ground you would provide even better value.

Post: #5

The manosphere keeps spreading its reach.

More and more female groupies/bloggers/writers are starting to adopt (aka crib/steal) our beliefs & ideas and pass them off as their own.

Post: #6

Those are the type of earrings I look for when I'm searching for a bar slut who's DTF

Post: #7

I would actually enjoy reading researched, detailed criticisms of the manosphere from an outside source (just as I enjoy reading criticisms of feminism).

But her ranting is not that, unfortunately.

Also, I hate how so much criticism of the mansophere comes down to, "He's a loser who doesn't get laid." It's a lazy ad hominem attack which doesn't address the arguments presented, and actually reinforces arguments of the manosphere (the point that women hate beta males and want a "real" man. Well, when a woman says "they're losers who can't get laid," isn't she really just saying, "they're betas and therefore not worthy of my respect or attention?"). If you think the argument(s) the manosphere makes is too disgusting to be addressed, that's a position I could respect even if I disagree with it, but just say so and move on instead of writing a 5,000 word article about how much the people in it suck.

Post: #8

Not too long ago, to my surprise some other members came down on me for putting forward the notion that women in the manosphere was a neutral to good thing.


Having read the above, I now completely understand why.

Post: #9

(08-09-2013 05:41 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  Also, I hate how so much criticism of the mansophere comes down to, "He's a loser who doesn't get laid." It's a lazy ad hominem attack which doesn't address the arguments presented

I think you give them too much credit. It's just shaming language, that's all. It's basically a version of real-life trolling, and Roosh knows this (hence his reply to her).

Post: #10

(08-09-2013 04:49 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:Thoughts?

Don't give trolls attention.

This,

thread should have ended here.

Please stop talking about her.

99.9% of you guys have graduated from the highest tenets of game. There's no excuse to keep giving her attention.

Post: #11

I'm with 2wycked on this one, this is worthy of some analysis.

This is fundamentally the difference between red pill and blue pill. Blue pill examinations are systematic, they examine ideas, concepts, and people. In short, they examine variables.

Red pill examinations are often metasystematic, they examine the underlying sexual sociobiology that gives these criticisms form. The red pill can't be understood by examining individual systems of interactions (such as that between Roosh, heartiste, and this girl), the red pill is understood by examining the broader macro-scale sexual sociobiology at play.

This article is a wonderful window into the sexual sociobiology that humanity has always run on. The same sexual sociobiology that for me is proof positive that women have never been oppressed, and that indeed the "patriarchy" was tailored by female desires being projected through sexual selection.

Women want to be lavished with attention and praise and they manipulate men to accomplish that goal.

This woman is just another tradcon dullard that attempted to make the manosphere a conduit for attention whoring, and found guys weren't particularly receptive to it. Her response is, of course, to employ her sex. Not to employ reason, or construct a logical argument, but like many other women on planet earth, to weaponize her sex.

If you don't wanna play the game by her rules, then just look at all the imputations of failed manhood she'll project your way. She even complained that men weren't chivalrous, wow. She then openly advertized her praise for a white knight that gave her the attention she craves and came to her rescue, calling him a gentleman.

This is the female sexual selection that controls and gives shape to male identity. This is the same sexual selection that gave shape to the so-called "patriarchy" and women's so called "oppression." Our world has been shaped by female sexual selection shaping male identity, and now, possibly for the first time in human history, men are coming together as a group to reject the gynocentric expectations placed on them by these social pressures.

This is the result. Articles like this will be the result. Articles that question your manhood, articles that ask where the good men have gone, articles that portray men as children who have yet to grow up, and articles that claim you're bitter or sexually inadequate.

It's the female attempting to conform male identity through sexual selection, and absolutely nothing more. This is why it's hard to find women who belong in the manosphere, many will eventually try to shape male identity in the manosphere using their sex (not all, GWW and Dr. T. Palmatier come to mind as standouts).

Post: #12

(08-09-2013 06:52 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  This is the result. Articles like this will be the result. Articles that question your manhood, articles that ask where the good men have gone, articles that portray men as children who have yet to grow up, and articles that claim you're bitter or sexually inadequate.

Yeah, but who listens to any of those articles? I've always dismissed them as dreck, and always will. Women have always written shit, and will always write shit.

Everything about that article is putrid, starting that tacky photoshop throw-up of a title.

According to her Bio, she's an English Major, but I keep tripping over her awkwardly-constructed sentences. She starts the article in the present tense, then abruptly shifts to the past tense in the second paragraph.

"One movement of which is the manosphere movement" isn't even a fucking sentence. She calls Roosh a "pent up indignant sexually frustrated buffoon", too lazy to hyphenate or use punctuation. Then there's drivel about taking life lessons from pop songs, moral high ground posteuring claiming feeling 'pity' for such bitter men, immediately negated by bursts of pure spite bitterness on her part showing that she isn't above that, Roosh's response got to her.

It's the diary entry of a teenage girl, not someone with a degree in English. I'm calling Bullshit. This woman is not intelligent. She's an absolute fucking moron, and by calling her a fucking moron, I actually feel like I'm insulting fucking morons.

Click on her profile. Look at the picture: fat chest, cropped upper arms to hide the blubber, jersey shore whore style. Read her stereotypical female vacillation with regards to her career and education: waitressing, cosmotology, office work, english degree. Read the 'fun and interesting facts', which are neither.

Why do girls always write such shite? I'm waiting for her to proclaim she's one part fashionista one part total whore etc...

The post was pure attention-whoring, and she was successful. Now the manosphere is all talking about the vapid thoughts of some random, braindead bimbo, who is a four, at best, in makeup.

Post: #13

Read the comments. She actually thinks that she's some kind of agent appointed by society to tell these men what's best for them, and that by writing "Hey guys, why are you threatened by intelligent women" she was "reaching out in solidarity". What a passive-aggressive turd.
I'm happy to see that Roosh basically wrote back "Fuck off, creep".

Post: #14

There are a lot of criticisms you can make about the manosphere, but her article is more or less the typical garbage about character attacks.

Post: #15

what makes her believe she is intelligent? i don't understand this about women

Post: #16

(08-10-2013 09:17 AM)ghostdog Wrote:  what makes her believe she is intelligent? i don't understand this about women

All women believe that having a piece of paper signed from an educational institution *proves* their intelligence.

My mate Hughesy said a few nights ago that blokes like him an me found no value in university education - both of us were entirely unchallenged by it - because of our intelligence. We are simply intelligent enough to be able to figure out anything we put our minds to, and would rather just get out there and do it.

He said "University simply offers the illusion of being of higher intelligence to those of moderate intelligence".

A moderate female thinker with a piece of paper in her hands that she believe validates her intelligence leads to exactly what you're seeing here, and Feminism in general: arrogance (overbearing pride, a sense of self-importance, offensive displays of superiority). They 'know better' than us, because, they're Officially Smart. See the paper?

Their feeble little minds cannot even begin to understand that there are tiers of intelligence, and they are simple Mundane to men of Higher Intelligence. I'm sensing more of a 'Borderline Retarded' vibe over the last 15 years, as University Entry Standards have declined to make allowances for Mundanes, lowering the average IQ level of the student population. Wasn't there a study recently that proved the average IQ had dropped an entire Standard Deviation since Victorian times?

The problem is, Human Resource Departments are full of these arrogant, privileged cunts, all wishing to see that piece of paper, and, as such, basic jobs that a monkey could easily figure out now require a university education, forcing crippling debt on everyone. This stops men from doing what they do best: not initially knowing what they're doing, but mastering it through time, effort and persistance.

FiestyWoman is simply a woman of low intelligence, clearly-demonstrated through her writing ability and her head-in-the-clouds thought processes, who somehow - fuck knows how - gained an English Major and believes she is smarter than the rest of us.

This is why I hate Vox's response to her. Rather than reading the truth behind his statement: "a dominant female personality is unfeminine and therefore unattractive to heterosexual men", she's chosen comforting cognitive dissonace to flatter, rather than challenge her self-image - and women can't stand honest criticism so will ALWAYS do this - "We're scared of you because we recognise that you're more intelligent than us", and her arrogance flows from there.

Fuck that. I've never been intellectually-threatened by a woman, and can't even begin to recognise a woman as feeble-minded as this one as a threat. They all think they can bring it, but when you challenge them, they have nothing to offer but platitudes, parroted thoughts and feels.

Post: #17

(08-09-2013 04:49 PM)Fisto Wrote:  And also someone should tell her the age old rule "the bigger the hoop, the bigger the hoochie". Girl is a total slut.

I always thought it was "Bigger the "O", bigger the ho". hehe

Ad hominem attacks by chicks are their only ammunition. It's like watching a political debate full of incoherent mudslinging.

Post: #18

Women who think they're "different" are the absolute worst.
I saw her Twitter, she is a "far-right traditionalist wife and mother". She thinks the manosphere needs her and she has picked up a few reputable followers so her belief is validated. The "omg a girl" on the internet never fails, especially in fringe movements. GirlWritesWhat has some good content and it seems like her heart is in it, but at the end of the day lesser known men have said what she has said much better.
This position gives "Feisty Woman" extra ego. She'll never learn actual humility. Her mother and grandmother didnt feel special for doing what a woman does. She feels like she is going against the grain and is unique for having children and being a housewife, therefore her generic conservative insights are necessary, and others retweet them because "LOOK A FAIRLY DECENT LOOKING WOMAN SAID SOMETHING I AGREE WITH". That's why she has to speak on behalf of men. I question how good of a wife and mother she is if she has to gravitate towards the internet for a 20:1 male female ratio and show off what she looks like. She can't resist. Beware of women who do this no matter how they rationalize it. They are almost always fucked up.

Post: #19

What's the point of trying to bring attention to this chick? She's mentally ill. Batshit insane. Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

She's a "far-right traditionalist, wife and mother" who posts pictures of herself dolled up in whore makeup and making sexually suggestive facial expressions. She falsely accuses guys like Roosh of not being able to get laid, showing she can't do basic research. Her prose is Lindy Westian in its rottenness: run-on sentences, random capitalization, punctuation errors galore, and garbled syntax, like the ravings of a mental patient.

And she considers Chippendales to be "the epitome of real men."

Forget hamster. This chick has a skull full of roided-up, drooling zombie hamsters desperate for braaaiiinnns. Her arguments have no logical coherency, no factual backing, no plane in reality. Her clear objective is to provoke the manosphere into giving her crappy blog attention; I never would have heard of her were it not for Vox's post.

This girl doesn't deserve a logical takedown. She doesn't even deserve to be "gamed" into submission. She deserves a nice long stay at a mental asylum with all-you-can-swallow Nardil and electroshock therapy.

Forget this bitch.