Post: #1

Need some RVF wisdom,

Looking to break up my SEA trip. Where would be better in terms of fun, women, nightlife for a a short 4 day weekend between Cambodia or Vietnam?

Essentially, looking to the place to go party and bang the hottest girls for free. I have no issues with shoring if that yields the hottest easiest girls.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

(08-08-2013 06:19 PM)5th Street Wrote:  Need some RVF wisdom,

Looking to break up my SEA trip. Where would be better in terms of fun, women, nightlife for a a short 4 day weekend between Cambodia or Vietnam?

Essentially, looking to the place to go party and bang the hottest girls for free. I have no issues with shoring if that yields the hottest easiest girls.

Thoughts?

3 - 4 days? I wouldn't overthink a trip based on women for such a short amount of time, to be honest. Just pick a place and go.

That said, if you're looking for highest chance of getting get laid on your trip, I'd say go with Cambodia. The women are hotter in Vietnam but will take more game, from my experience. Cambodia seems to have a bit more going on and more eager, receptive women. Shoring is pretty easy here, but you do have some of them change their story in the morning and try to charge you or ask for taxi money, so be explicitly clear and stand your ground unless it looks to be getting ugly.

The above comparison is based on North Vietnam though, as I've yet to the see the South.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #3

I would say both countries are not the best to pick up hot girls for free. Vietnam is more conservative - watch out for hotels cock blocking you by not letting guests in. Girls are interested in foreigners, but most of them will probably not consider a ONS. I've only been to Saigon and Mui Ne, though, so can't speak for the entire country.

Cambodia: I've been to Siem Reap (Angkor Wat) and hear some good things about Pnom Penh and Sianoukville. In Siem Reap, a lot of P4P but haven't seen any 'good' girls except for girls with local guys in the clubs. If I were you I would pick a place you'd like to visit, like Angkor Wat, and go for sight seeing and adventure rather than getting laid. If you also get laid, that's fine, if not, who cares. Pussy is pussy, lots of it everywhere, but a place like Angkor Wat is something you'll remember for the rest of your life.

Post: #4

I shored in Cambodia. Women liked chocolate out there. I struck out the first night I went tho. It was on a Tuesday I believe. Searched the forum and went to two places the datasheet recommended. What is the point of the trip? Unless it's a visa run go to BKK instead.

Post: #5

Just realized Cambodia has Siem Reap. Must see in my opinion. Looks like it will be Cambodia & PP.

Is the nightlife jumping every night in PP around the freelance clubs & bars?

Post: #6

Bkk is awesome, after all we have nude gogo bars here and stuff. Or there's Pattaya, which is awash with hookers.

Talked to some guys who have been to Cambodia, they tell me the foreigners there are even wierder than the wierdos we have in Bkk! Which really is saying something.

Vietnamese women are hot, but I guess it would be like China, where conservatism and the language barrier makes it harder to get some fun. It's possible, but you need to spend more time there figuring stuff out.

Post: #7

I have friends in Saigon, so I had a blast there. However, for a few days without any social circle, I'd go to Cambodia instead. More good ole fashioned debauchery.

Post: #8

Vietnam has hotter women that are more gf material. If you had more time I would say Vietnam hands down, but for 3 or 4 days you can shore to your hearts desire in Cambodia. I almost guarantee every girl you hook up with has been paid for sex though. That's just the way that place is. The girls who aren't like that won't speak a word of English. Cambodia should be your spot.

Post: #9

(08-09-2013 01:36 AM)20Nation Wrote:  Vietnam has hotter women that are more gf material. If you had more time I would say Vietnam hands down, but for 3 or 4 days you can shore to your hearts desire in Cambodia. I almost guarantee every girl you hook up with has been paid for sex though. That's just the way that place is. The girls who aren't like that won't speak a word of English. Cambodia should be your spot.

and yeah every night in PP there will be shit going on, and it should be easy to pull. But make it VERY CLEAR you are not paying. I had a girl crying on my bed one morning cause I wouldn't pay her, and I told her I don't pay for sex ten times the night before.

Post: #10

If your going for quality, go for Vietnam. I smashed 2 just using online and Google translator. Cambodia does not have quality. If anyone tries to dispute this ask them why they dont post pics of their Cambo girls.

Make sure you have the list of girl friendly hotels (if going to Saigon) and do not try to shore in Saigon, its a waste of time.

TD

Post: #11

(08-09-2013 04:59 AM)truedat Wrote:  If your going for quality, go for Vietnam. I smashed 2 just using online and Google translator. Cambodia does not have quality. If anyone tries to dispute this ask them why they dont post pics of their Cambo girls.

Make sure you have the list of girl friendly hotels (if going to Saigon) and do not try to shore in Saigon, its a waste of time.

TD

I saw a couple legitimate 7's in PP, but I didn't see any higher in my two nights there. You can find higher quality girls at St. Tropez, though I can imagine it's a hard place to pull from. I had one girl feeling me, though she was only a 5.5/6. Educated, good job, comes from money. As soon as we started dancing, and I got in too close, she turned sour and left shortly after. At least I got a couple free Heineken's out of it.

Girls in Saigon were definitely hotter. I hear Lush on Tuesday nights is great. Ladies night. Though, I was there on a Friday I think it was and there were a lot of good looking Viet girls, but also way more white guys than I expected.

Had a sexy little Viet girl dancing Salsa with me at Patcharan, though I can't dance Salsa, or any kind of dance for that matter. Telling me about how she just bought a new house. Very likely I could have closed the deal if I wasn't only in town for a couple of nights.

Ending up making out with another Viet girl that knew my friend. Gave me a ride to a couple of clubs in her car while everyone else took taxis. Got wasted and fucked it up by sticking my hand up the back of her skirt while dancing lol. Not sure what I was thinking, I'd never pull that in Thailand. Guess the bottle of Grey Goose was in charge that night.

I was surprised how much more open Viet girls were compared to girls here in BKK. Of course, both girls I hooked up with were educated and pretty Western. I think they may have both studied abroad.

I've heard traditional Viet girls can be tough and all have curfews. My buddies who live there were complaining about their girls always having to go home early.

Post: #12

(08-09-2013 04:59 AM)truedat Wrote:  If your going for quality, go for Vietnam. I smashed 2 just using online and Google translator. Cambodia does not have quality. If anyone tries to dispute this ask them why they dont post pics of their Cambo girls.

Make sure you have the list of girl friendly hotels (if going to Saigon) and do not try to shore in Saigon, its a waste of time.

TD

You're hilarious, truedat.

An entire country with zero good-looking women...yeah, that makes sense...

Anyways, I don't think anyone on here has disputed that the women are far better-looking in Vietnam. Just doesn't seem realistic to go there for 4 days expecting to clean up shop with hot women unless the OP has a substantial amount of game. I don't know that he doesn't but I did not sense he had a ton of experience based on his post. I could be wrong.

As I stated before, I think it's folly to focus too much on women as a deciding factor when you have 3 or 4 days to get in and out of a country and enjoy yourself. Either choice will be a win.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #13

BB do you have pics of your 7+'s? I dont see a lot of pics from you although you seem to have the time to write volumes of work about your experiences there smashing super hot girls (at least your writing now on a thread that is not someone else's trip report). Cambodia experts please paste your super hot girls here so this guy can make his own judgement.

My perspective from 3 visits:

Yes you can smash poor girls who can barely afford rice for their family of 6 in Cambodia who are part time prostitutes (in a 3-4 day trip). Option B, you can hop online and smash 1-2 nice girls in Saigon (who dont even speak English) with Google translator.

TD

Post: #14

TD - did you crack the Saigon code? I royally screwed that visit up.

Couldn't shore, couldn't get girls in the hotel or for only a couple hours at a time.

Met good girls that needed too many dates to get anywhere.

Still loved the place though and saw a ton of talent.

I want to go back there long term. Also I wasn't doing any online game at that point.

Post: #15

(08-09-2013 02:19 PM)truedat Wrote:  BB do you have pics of your 7+'s? I dont see a lot of pics from you although you seem to have the time to write volumes of work about your experiences there smashing super hot girls (at least your writing now on a thread that is not someone else's trip report). Cambodia experts please paste your super hot girls here so this guy can make his own judgement.

My perspective from 3 visits:

Yes you can smash poor girls who can barely afford rice for their family of 6 in Cambodia who are part time prostitutes (in a 3-4 day trip). Option B, you can hop online and smash 1-2 nice girls in Saigon (who dont even speak English) with Google translator.

TD

Whoah, whoah, listen, douchebag.

The whole post photos or not thing has nothing to do with a measure of game or any type of reality - that's been proven time and time again. Some of us don't agree with that and that's it. Again, are you seriously arguing the fact to me that there's an entire country in this world without good-looking girls, or is there some other reason your panties are all bunched up? Because that's all I said, yet you want to insult me?

You seem to have a reason to pick a bone with me, which only tells me you've been sitting back with some type of chip on your shoulder.

I don't have a damn thing to prove to you or anyone else. I post on here about my experiences for fun and nothing else - I have nothing to gain. And now I must be some kind of fake because the only time I post is interjecting in other people's threads? Don't be a joke. If I was a fake (at least for the reasons you're implying) I'd have three threads going by now, because that's the amount of experience I have at the bare minimum. Posting on threads that rep other people is a selfless contribution besides collecting a couple likes. Am I selling something? - no... So believe me or not, and beyond that I could really give a flying fuck.

You want to agree to disagree, okay, be my guest. Answer me this. How many Cambodian disotheques did you visit while you were here and how many days were you even here on your three visits? How many stylish restaurants were you the only guy with white skin? Because even beyond the girls I'm banging, many of which haven't been much to look at all, I've seen plenty of hotties rolling through in the expected places, whether I'm doing them or not. Many of which need attention to bang but do signify white boy love.

I know the girls you're talking about with their super dark skin and sometimes fucked up teeth. But if you don't think the locals with money have women working at their spots with whiter skin, cuter faces, and pearly whites - hell, sometimes even dark skin but still hot - you're simply half-retarded and that's it.

I've seen guys like you roll through a country thinking you know what's going on while not understanding a second of the reality and project your own shitty experiences on everyone else before, and seriously, that's your own problem. Fuck, even if you were a tourist center hugger, I saw about two or three foreigners over the course of the night with 7s - all long-termers. You rarely even see that in Thailand. Maybe gold-diggers, though I didn't swoop that vibe, but still, they are here. Just in one night.

I've dated strippers and models in the states - I know what a 7 is, and I'm much stricter on this than most forum members. I didn't see much above that, of course, but rarely do I ever see much above that in America either or any other country on a random night out at clubs in smaller cities either.

As another aside, I was at the discotheque all night and the girl I was there with (two of her friends included) refused to give me pussy or even leave the club alone with me to eat, even though she texts me 8 times a day and sat there at my side all night, because that's not how she rolls (and it's indeed how almost ALL of the mainstream girls refuse to roll, which is something I was going to post about next). I got a bit grabby with her leg (though certainly not by Western standards) and she even pulled me aside to say that as much as she likes me that's a no-no here and to stop doing that in front of her friends.

Yeah, she must be really hard up for rice to deny me pussy twice; meanwhile she's here in Siem Reap training to be a doctor....Tell me, how many cock-denying med students did you meet while you were here, wiseguy? Oh, I guess I better display her photo across the web (shit I haven't even taken a photo of a girl I've fucked since my last serious gf about two years ago) in order to earn your respect. Shiiiiiiit. You really are silly....

Anyways, if she was hard up for a farang dick I'd be fucking her right now.

And again, I met a girl like this in two weeks of being here.

So what did I do after I got denied and she left promising to meet up tomorrow for dinner? I went to easy-shoring bar and shored, as I always do. And I don't think I've yet been dishonest when I do lower my standard like that - OP said he was down. When I spoke about hotties in my posts, never did I imply we were talking about quality girls - just the occaissonal sexy ones, which I'd say in every late night bar of prostitutes there are always at least two, maybe three, that have sex appeal. So again, what's your problem? I shored in a state of debauchery and was honest about it, and it is what it is.

Tonight, I grabbed a 6, 6.5 if I'm lucky - maybe 7 for a drunk, which I often am, and took her home. Guess what, there was at least three white guys better looking than me (and all younger) following her around all night, trying their asses off, and not only that but I actively tried to talk her out of coming with me because I was so annoyed with her previous behavior. Not to mention ignoring her 30 phone calls today. Even when I finally grabbed her and left, she got stupid in the cab, and I got out and paid the cabbie to take her home and walked into my lobby to sit down for a beer and blow off steam.

Three minutes later and who walks in the door? Guess? Yep, she pretended to take the cab a half block away and walk back. Oh my god, I'm such a user! This girl is so aware I'm not paying and that I never will that it's painful but here she comes and I argue with her in the lobby for five minutes, telling her I have this new girl and don't like her stalker behavior and that she should just go home. And she still insists on coming to my room for the goods. She's lying on my bed right now sleeping and I fuck around on the internet because I could care less.

Wow, yeah, I'm a real victimizer, me.....Give me a break, Bro - it's not like these whores don't have choices.

Don't know what your problem is or why you're so emotionally involved. Pull your nuts up off my posts. Again, I'm actually zero involved in this here, as I have nothing to pitch. If you boys aren't digging it, I've been trying to refrain from wasting time writing this stuff anyways, and for that reason have been leaving a lot out already, so I'll gladly not post at all on SEA shit and save my content for other purposes. Between you and Majestic trolling me (to say I'm not even in SEA and then cringe off without a response when I retorted), I really don't need much more motivation to stop. I live life and have had fun talking about it here but certainly don't need to.

Oh, wait, what was the point of this retarded disagreement again? Ah, I remember what I said. 3 or 4 days is a dumb amount of time to worry about women when traveling. Vietnamese women are hotter but harder - party is more popping in Cambodia.

Hmmmm....sure sounds like a good reason to insult all my other posts to me...

EDIT: Yes, El, that was an actual 8:30 in the morning meltdown.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #16

BB No pics?

Fisto online works just as well there as in the Phils my man. Might need to have 2 date though, first one coffee

TD

Post: #17

(08-09-2013 08:56 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  I saw a couple

Killin' me with that new pic.

That's not Rio!

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #18

(08-09-2013 10:07 PM)truedat Wrote:  BB No pics?

Now you're just trolling. Refer to the above post and its many valid points like a mature man instead of sticking to your non-argument.

What are we even arguing about again? The thing we essentially agreed on (besides your assertion that no quality women at all exist in this country)? Or some other issue you have with me? What do my pics that I don't take (nor would post if I did) have anything to do with anything?

Stop acting like a woman.

Once again, if you've got some weird little bone to pick with me, whip it out and show your shlong - because this photo shit over a non-argument is really out there and irrelevant. Or come out and pay a visit. Any Rooshers are more then welcome to pop through no matter where I am - happy to back up my posts in person. My claims are not even outrageous but since you're putting me on the spot, feel free to come tag along.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #19

(08-09-2013 10:07 PM)truedat Wrote:  BB No pics?

Fisto online works just as well there as in the Phils my man. Might need to have 2 date though, first one coffee

TD

How can you call a forum member out for pics If you are not posting any of your own? BB never claimed to be banging 8 and 9s in Cambodia, so why are you asking for pics of that?

As I said, I definitely saw a few 7s in the two nights I was there, though I went to St Tropez and Darlin Darlin (strange place), and I wasn't hanging out in backpacker bars or P4P spots much.

I did go to Pontoon and Heart of Darkness. Pontoon had quality similar to that of Insanity in Bangkok. Heart of Darkness was dead when I got there.

Cambodia obviously has much lower quality girls than Vietnam. Though, there are also obviously some pretty girls there. Definitely more poor and low class girls on the whole. Good for a few nights of debauchery, but can't touch places like RCA or Thonglor for quality overall.

There are also some well off and educated girls there, though much less than in other SEA countries. I got a ride home from a girl in her SUV and she fed me drinks from her Jack Daniels bottles all night. Borderline 6. She had lived in Australia, and turned out to be kind of a spoiled brat. Not sure what her dad did, but wouldnt be surprised if he was ex Khmer Rogue general or some shit.

As I said, I think PP can be fun for a few days of debauchery, though the quality of girls is lower than other SEA countries. Most of the girls will be straight pros and semi pros.

If Insanity(BKK nightclub) was a city, it would be Phnom Penh.

Post: #20

(08-09-2013 10:55 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  As I said, I think PP can be fun for a few days of debauchery, though the quality of girls is lower than other SEA countries.

Shit, hoping to go check it out. Only 10 days on my visa and still haven't left this first city. Methinks will need to buy one more month on my visa and go on a tour.

Some old Cambodian restaurant owner told me they're rolling out tanks in PP right now though. Sounds like things are heating up after the election. Most likely just a show of intimidation - not too concerned.

(08-09-2013 10:55 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  I got a ride home from a girl in her SUV and she fed me drinks from her Jack Daniels bottles all night. Borderline 6. She had lived in Australia, and turned out to be kind of a spoiled brat. Not sure what her dad did, but wouldnt be surprised if he was ex Khmer Rogue general or some shit.

She sounds like fun.

(08-09-2013 10:55 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  As I said, I definitely saw a few 7s in the two nights I was there,

Wow, TD - Rio saw 7s in two nights in the country! Either his eyes are fucking with him or there's a slight possibility there's something higher than a 6 floating around within this country of almost 15 million people. Not to mention the oddly female biased sex ratio...

I must be out of my mind to think I'd spot some quality in my 20 days here so far, many of which consisted of boozing with moneyed locals in pubs outside the tourist center. Damn, I better go grab my camera and back this astonishing claim up...

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #21

Bunch of assholes in here this morning. You guys need to go eat some breakfast or somethin lol.

Anyway, to the OP, I think BKK is your best bet. Hotter girls than Cambodia, debateably(is that a word?) hotter than Vietnam also, and easier to get laid than Vietnam. Or at least quicker. BKK would be my choice if you haven't been already.

Otherwise Vietnam for hotter girls, or Cambodia for easier girls and lots of debauchery.

That's the way I see it, from someone who has been to all three places.

Post: #22

Since I made my point, back to the orginal question. The answer is Vietnam for me, but you can surely try your hand at smashing freelancers If you like in Cambodia.

BB sorry I dont read your post. Too long for me.

TD

Post: #23

This reminds me of the comic books when two good guy superheros tie up and fight over a misunderstanding. Like when wolverine fought the hulk.

Post: #24

(08-10-2013 02:05 AM)Fisto Wrote:  This reminds me of the comic books when two good guy superheros tie up and fight over a misunderstanding. Like when wolverine fought the hulk.

The Hulk would kick Wolverines ass. I fell asleep during his last movie.

Post: #25

(08-10-2013 02:11 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(08-10-2013 02:05 AM)Fisto Wrote:  This reminds me of the comic books when two good guy superheros tie up and fight over a misunderstanding. Like when wolverine fought the hulk.

The Hulk would kick Wolverines ass. I fell asleep during his last movie.

They are really fucking his character up.

It's pissing me off.