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How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Like day Lindy West chomping on some watermelon Oreo cookies "the face and waist of feminism"?

You put it up at some high profile spots with a buy link

The bitter bitch brigade makes it viral, and the White Knights rally their troops.

How do you get paid and stay relatively anonymous?

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07-19-2013 11:42 AM
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Ok, there are four things:

1. Traffic & Demographic Targeting

-What are your sources of traffic going to be? Your blog posts exclusively? A mailing list? Are you going to design a video oriented toward spurring some reaction or support?
-Who is your demographic?

2. The E-Store Front

How bad is your paranoia? The following will seem a bit extravagant, but better too much security than not enough and regretting it.

-For protection and selling of things you don't want traced, I'd recommend: A) Offshore Bank Account B) Offshore Merchant Account, Offshore VPN and WhoisPrivacy and registration with details and a bought PO box with a private domain registrar to host the ecommerce site. Proxies, CCleaner etc. etc. the usual also.

3. Handling the Abuse: How bad do you realistically think the backlash would be? You'll need a system to handle the impending DDOS or whatever bs they'd try. They have tools at their disposal I'd assume.

I can offer more information after I get the questions answered, because there is still alot more that can be done.
07-19-2013 04:16 PM
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Just a heads up, I'll buy a "no ma'am" shirt. Big Grin

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When you sort it out post a link bro. I want some Big Grin
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Me too!
Speaking of "offensive" t-shirts, I bought a very innocent one (see below pic) and when wearing it, I got quite a few strange looks, specially from the wimmins.


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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Make a kickstarter for it. Troll yourself, get banned. Sell a ton of shirts out of the free publicity.
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
(07-19-2013 09:34 PM)germanico Wrote:  Make a kickstarter for it. Troll yourself, get banned. Sell a ton of shirts out of the free publicity.

Funny you should mention Kickstarter.

The site I wanted to use is the kickstarter for tee-shirts

http://www.teespring.com

You come up with a design, you post it, set the price.

Then you of course drive traffic to the site, if it meets 50 t-shirts, they silk screen it and send it out to the people, you just collect the check from them.

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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
(07-19-2013 04:16 PM)Black Quixote Wrote:  Ok, there are four things:


-For protection and selling of things you don't want traced, I'd recommend: A) Offshore Bank Account B) Offshore Merchant Account, Offshore VPN and WhoisPrivacy and registration with details and a bought PO box with a private domain registrar to host the ecommerce site. Proxies, CCleaner etc. etc. the usual also.

The other stuff isn't so important, but this is what you would do...

This would be a nice data sheet if you've got the time.

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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
I could, it would depend what all everyone would want to know. Just how to sell as anonymously as possible online? Just a basic overview or is there something specific anyone (including you) wants to know about it?

I'll try and make time over the course of the next week or so.
07-20-2013 01:48 AM
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
(07-20-2013 01:48 AM)Black Quixote Wrote:  I could, it would depend what all everyone would want to know. Just how to sell as anonymously as possible online? Just a basic overview or is there something specific anyone (including you) wants to know about it?

I'll try and make time over the course of the next week or so.

We appreciate it.
07-20-2013 11:20 AM
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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Interesting thread I was thinking the other day of maybe selling just t shirts with a phrase. Would be interested on how to stay anonymous. A question about the lindy west shirt would be using her picture to make money. Any lawyers care to chime in on that?

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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
(07-20-2013 12:18 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Interesting thread I was thinking the other day of maybe selling just t shirts with a phrase. Would be interested on how to stay anonymous. A question about the lindy west shirt would be using her picture to make money. Any lawyers care to chime in on that?

Casebook wise, it depends on the particular state's common law

I.e. the rules created by appellate cases - i.e. when low level courts disagree on something, a "court" of courts comes into to decide.

In reality, it's about
a) how mad the person is that you're making fun of
b) how much money they have to pay a lawyer
c) how much money you made by using their likeness

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RE: How would you sell an offensive manosphere T-shirt?
Just to build a little on what Black Quixote said:

You could buy an anonymous reloadable debit card with an IBAN account linked (look around on the deep web) and use that as your bank account for a payment gateway such as paypal.

All you have to do after you have everything set up is withdraw the cash you make from an ATM.

Use offshore/bullet-proof hosting for the actual website. Try to pay anonymously with bitcoin and if you're truly paranoid, only access your website from anonymous places (like using a proxy/VPN + free wifi)
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