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I seriously think I'll look like I'm in my mid or maybe late 20's when I'm 40 because of my baby face and lean body. It'll be funny if I can get away with knocking off 20 years when I'm in my 40's and not make girls suspicious. A guy who's never been tied down and always been in the game, takes care of his body/face and has good genes will be a monster when he's 40. How many guys fall into those categories? 1 out of 1,000?? Most guys start getting lonely and want someone by their side so if that never happens to you and you're consistently interacting/messing around with new girls...your game should naturally progress and you'll know what works and what doesn't for you like a 6th sense.
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(07-05-2013 03:38 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  I can vouch for all of mikes comments above.

Juicing = changed my skin
Lifting weights = no brainer
Green tea >>>> coffee (coffee now makes me sick).

The thing is, this may be crack pot theory, but drinking once a week may be good for you? Generally drinking makes you laugh/smile/increases your mood so no need to go apeshit and go 100% healthy.

90% healthy/10% unhealthy is a good balance, you don't want to be stressing about everything you put in your body 24/7 365, because I truly believe the #1 worst thing for your body = high stress

Never see a guy who looks old that has had a stress free life.

Note: I'll come back on the no alcohol thing as I'm doing a 45 day challenge as we speAk. So far I feel about the same as when I was drinking 3/4 drinks a week.

Drinking alcohol is older than language. Animals eat fermented fruit. It's natural. We've evolved with it.

Obviously it can be harmful if done in excess, but so can a lot of other things.

The french live longer because of all the resveratrol they get from wine.
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(07-05-2013 04:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  But you don't want to be too pasty white.

I've never did the spray tan they do at the salon. Has anyone tried that? Is it safe for your skin? Does it look natural?

You still get tan when you use sunscreen.

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I'm not far off from this age. My life is pretty f**king awesome.
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(07-03-2013 04:23 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  
(07-03-2013 04:17 PM)Courage Wrote:  Money doesn't matter to young girls. Looks, and to a lesser extent confidence, are king.

Exactly my point.

Men get better looking with age.

And more confident.

Yes. Those of you who keep saying younger chicks don't like older [confident, successful] mean are epic LOLOL wrong. Young as in 15-20+ years younger. Being 39 on PoF or SA has not been a hindrance but quite the opposite.
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(07-05-2013 04:12 PM)Dusty Wrote:  But you don't want to be too pasty white.

I recently got better looking. How?

I got a tan. My skin color was too white. A few people commented that I look better now.

I also grew my hair out. I used to have a short, military style cut. This is not good for a guy in his mid-30's. Not enough style and flair. People thought I was a cop or a marine. Not the look I was going for.

And, I added some muscle mass and started tucking my shirt in more to highlight my waist to shoulder ratio.

These 3 things improved my appearance quite a bit.

1) Get a tan. Pasty white only looks good on Swedish people and other Northern Europeans, I think.
2) Get a grown man hair style.
3) Hit the weights and wear clothes that fit properly.

I will be ready when school starts next month!

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I just talked to one of my game mentors. I guy that is slightly older then me, 41, I think. We were talking about dating much younger girls.

He said he is at a great age because he can date girls aged 20-40. I asked him why he would want to date a girl over 28 but thats a whole nother story..

He said most guys don't realize that they can date much younger girls. One line he said that stood out to me is..

"they just want a guy that knows what he's doing"
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For me, the best ages were 22-26, although I didn't realize it at the time. There were several reasons for this.

First, I was still young and able to be irresponsible without having the weight of real life bear down on me. Therefore, I just went on dates to go on dates and hooked up to hook up, without any thought it would or should lead anywhere.

Better still, I was young enough to still date 18-year-olds, yet just mature enough to date older women and be a novelty to them. Not to mention women my own age. Best of all, I wasn't jaded enough yet to look at these age groups in terms of cliches.

The downside: I had very little money and confidence and didn't game as much as I should have because of that. I felt I was having success in spite of my lack of funds, not realizing that might have given me some bad boy appeal older guys didn't have. Bleh. Live and learn.
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(07-06-2013 11:53 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  I recently got better looking. How?

I got a tan. My skin color was too white. A few people commented that I look better now.

As my granddad used to say "Every handsome man is slightly tanned".

A tan especially if you live in a non-hot country such as the UK or if you have a tan out of season ( i.e in winter when everyone else is pasty ) makes you not only look healthier and more healthy but it hints at a better lifestyle. A tan in January says 'holiday' which subconsciously to a woman equals success and a certain wealth. The amount of eye fucking eye get with a tan is ridiculous in comparison to when I am my usual colour. And the gaze is held longer too, I have definitely noticed this and pondered it on many occasions. My plan is to have one tanning holiday every winter to keep the summer tan topped up throughout the winter.

Going back to hair: I think a tan is especially good for us with no hair as it stops you having a big white head. That is why they say black guys can be bald and it makes no difference, it just looks better with colour. It also hides the defining line of the friar tuck hairline and the skin. I know when I am tanned I look more attractive and my hairline or lack of hair is not nearly as attention drawing as it is when I am white and pasty.
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I'm 27 and currently carefully calculating how to have the ideal lifestyle by age 35.

I want to have a massive amount of access to women between 33 and 38 so that if I decide that I wanna get married at what I speculate to be my peak of handsome, I can, but don't have to.

Please note that, if I did marry, I would do so with a non-Chinese in China.

Because she's not Chinese, she would have little in the way of help securing my resources if we got divorced/separated.

If she made any fuss, I'd just move to Thailand until she lost track of me.

Naturally, I'd invest in resources that would travel easily.

i.e. Sweet party sailboat, rather that sweet party apartment. I'd rent an apartment and put my money into stuff that would travel well and make any apartment great. For example, a steady stream of cash that would let me rent consistently awesome, relevant furniture.

Might cost more that owning, but the added flexibility would be worth price.

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(07-06-2013 01:38 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  As my granddad used to say "Every handsome man is slightly tanned".

A tan especially if you live in a non-hot country such as the UK or if you have a tan out of season ( i.e in winter when everyone else is pasty ) makes you not only look healthier and more healthy but it hints at a better lifestyle.

Always wondered why a lot of Brits go out of their way to get tans, and it makes total sense.

Cardio, long slow distance training for marathons and triathlons etc, will age you faster than smoking and drinking. Just look at your average marathon runner, or even triathlete. They look and feel haggard. The giant societal myth that endurance training is the holy grail of health and fitness is dying fast. Supposed fit middle aged people drop dead regularly in marathons and major triathlons every weekend.

My prescription is weightlifting or bodyweight resistance gymnastic training, some sprinting and playing sports. No workout over 1 hour, no more than 3-5x per week unless you are training for a sport. Marks Daily Apple or Art Devany is probably the best longevity programs out there. I am guilty of getting too much sun but I cant help, I love it.
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No college guy that gets laid cares enough to learn game.
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(07-06-2013 07:35 PM)puckman Wrote:  The giant societal myth that endurance training is the holy grail of health and fitness is dying fast.

Belief in endurance training is indeed the "blue pill" of health. Not sure it's dying out - in Australia, running marathons, biking or triathlon is still a badge of status for haggard, scrawny office middle management.
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Here's the workout routine for this 48 year old dude who still gets eye fucked by 20-somethings (and sometimes teens):

Monday: Back and Chest. At home. For 7 months of year, 60 minutes, for 5 months 30 minutes.
Tuesday: Stretch for 35 minutes.
Wednesday: Arms/Shoulders. At home. For 7 months of year, 60 minutes, for 5 months 30 minutes.
Thursday: Run about 4 miles.
Friday: Off
Saturday: Legs and back at gym. 35 minutes. Often skip.
Sunday: Run for about an hour. Sometimes 1.5 hours. Run pretty slow.

Many missed workouts as I get better offers for the evening, go on vacations, etc. But stick with it pretty religiously.

Oh, but I eat pretty healthy. Nutrition is about 70% of fitness.
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Here's another tip for staying young looking. Wear sunglasses outside.

Without sunglasses, you squint, and that causes wrinkles around your eyes.
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(07-06-2013 01:38 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 11:53 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  I recently got better looking. How?

I got a tan. My skin color was too white. A few people commented that I look better now.

As my granddad used to say "Every handsome man is slightly tanned".

A tan especially if you live in a non-hot country such as the UK or if you have a tan out of season ( i.e in winter when everyone else is pasty ) makes you not only look healthier and more healthy but it hints at a better lifestyle. A tan in January says 'holiday' which subconsciously to a woman equals success and a certain wealth. The amount of eye fucking eye get with a tan is ridiculous in comparison to when I am my usual colour. And the gaze is held longer too, I have definitely noticed this and pondered it on many occasions. My plan is to have one tanning holiday every winter to keep the summer tan topped up throughout the winter.

Going back to hair: I think a tan is especially good for us with no hair as it stops you having a big white head. That is why they say black guys can be bald and it makes no difference, it just looks better with colour. It also hides the defining line of the friar tuck hairline and the skin. I know when I am tanned I look more attractive and my hairline or lack of hair is not nearly as attention drawing as it is when I am white and pasty.

I was reading through this post and am suprised someone brought this up (being tan).. Living in Texas it's not hard to get and stay tan at all because its always hot as fuck here, and being someone who's always outside working on my yard or washing my truck or at the beach, ect, i stay very tan.. Let me tell you gents: The chicks love it.. I'm white but during the summer months keep a nice golden tan.. A week ago one of my hookups came over.. We were standing in my kitchen and i had my shirt off and i said something like "i did my yard today, got a nice little sunburn".. She said: "But it looks so damn sexy"..
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(07-06-2013 11:17 PM)Balboa Wrote:  
(07-06-2013 07:35 PM)puckman Wrote:  The giant societal myth that endurance training is the holy grail of health and fitness is dying fast.

Belief in endurance training is indeed the "blue pill" of health. Not sure it's dying out - in Australia, running marathons, biking or triathlon is still a badge of status for haggard, scrawny office middle management.

I think it is here, with the downfall of lance no one here even cares about the Tour anymore. I think that will have a big effect, and you see articles coming out everyday in the mainstream press like "why running is bad", I see it happening in AU as well, with the advent of crossfit, etc.. weightlifting is huge down there as well
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(07-04-2013 12:35 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  The life of a playboy can be a long journey. Pace yourself.

Well said man. I've got just under 20 years till I'm 40 and things are only looking up. Sometimes its easy to forget the 'long term' of things and only worry about the present.
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I don’t understand the mentality behind “I don’t date girls over 25.” You all know damn well that there are 30+ women out there who are hotter than over 90 percent of 20-year-olds. They usually dress less provocatively, but it won’t matter when the clothes are off.

About a month ago at work, I saw a German woman in her 30s who was dressed really sexy and looked hotter than 99 percent of American women in their 20s. She was a tall brunette with beautiful glowing skin and tight black clothing on a hot summer’s day. Really hot face, big tits, small waist, big butt, and long shapely legs.

At what age would you rather approach a woman like that? 25, 30, or 40?
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I'm in my mid 30's. I have a POF account, but don't widely pursue women yet through this - new to game and still reading up. I have also not received many views or messages on my profile. As a test I set up an account for a mid 20's - found a few ok looking pics online, some are not even the same guy lol. I kept it short and sweet. I've only gone live a couple times and got a half dozen messages and views off the chart!!! (i'm not communicating with these women just observing)

The women viewing the fake one are early to late 20's and mostly all attractive. the women viewing mine - mostly older or unattractive. So...without reaching out to these younger women - they are not looking for me.
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(07-07-2013 03:33 PM)pro14 Wrote:  I'm in my mid 30's. I have a POF account, but don't widely pursue women yet through this - new to game and still reading up. I have also not received many views or messages on my profile. As a test I set up an account for a mid 20's - found a few ok looking pics online, some are not even the same guy lol. I kept it short and sweet. I've only gone live a couple times and got a half dozen messages and views off the chart!!! (i'm not communicating with these women just observing)

The women viewing the fake one are early to late 20's and mostly all attractive. the women viewing mine - mostly older or unattractive. So...without reaching out to these younger women - they are not looking for me.

go out and meet women in real life. it will get you much farther, much faster.
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You have to go out in person if you're older and want to fuck younger girls. They're gonna see your age and ignore you right off the bat unless you can lie and get away with it. It's just a lot easier in person.
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I was called out in another thread as being a trophy boyfriend. Makes sense considering what i focus on with the whole MGTOW thing. Being aloof helps a lot in this sense.

I say, as long as you spend your days working on yourself and just being authentic to what you believe the culture of hamsterism will benefit you directly. I'm just weird in the sense i can appreciate a chick who has the balls to make moves.

Being older definitely helps. Money, sophistication, a good career, and a semi atheletic frame will do you wonders on your own.

This website along with Sosuave really helped me focus on less chasing lizards and being more oriented in self actualizing.

The best line that was said to me is, "Women, fame, and money are byproducts of success. Don't chase the rewards, chase what is either your hobby or what makes you the most money for the least effort."

I like that.

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(07-07-2013 03:49 PM)puckman Wrote:  
(07-07-2013 03:33 PM)pro14 Wrote:  I'm in my mid 30's. I have a POF account, but don't widely pursue women yet through this - new to game and still reading up. I have also not received many views or messages on my profile. As a test I set up an account for a mid 20's - found a few ok looking pics online, some are not even the same guy lol. I kept it short and sweet. I've only gone live a couple times and got a half dozen messages and views off the chart!!! (i'm not communicating with these women just observing)

The women viewing the fake one are early to late 20's and mostly all attractive. the women viewing mine - mostly older or unattractive. So...without reaching out to these younger women - they are not looking for me.

go out and meet women in real life. it will get you much farther, much faster.

definitely working toward that and thinking that's what needs to happen. just got out of a relationship with my child's mother. 2 years of drama and indecision on her part funny thing is she and her friends meet guys on pof and that's where i got the idea lol.
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If I was an older guy, I would

- Set up the online profiles with your age and go for women 30 or 35+
- Set up another profile and knock at least 10 or 15 yrs off so you can go after younger girls with no problems

Make them both private or whatever it is so nobody can search for you. Do that on top of going out and talking to girls.
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(07-07-2013 03:54 PM)frenchie Wrote:  "Women, fame, and money are byproducts of success. Don't chase the rewards, chase what is either your hobby or what makes you the most money for the least effort."

Well put.
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