Post: #1

I decided to get laid from day game, so I read Roosh's book and started approaching. A dozen approaches down the road, still not a single number.
The biggest problem I face is that where I'm at, there are no coffee shops where single girls sit down to read books or work on their laptops. Nobody ever goes out alone, it's always a group of friends (if some girl is alone, she's very much likely some kind of weirdo outcast or waiting for friends to show up). Same story in the bookstore, they go in, find what they need, flip through, and go out. I easily spend 1-2 hours in the busy town center to find a suitable target (a girl on her own who does not appear in a rush). Often I have to resort approaching 2 girls which is a different scenario altogether. Let me share the crap I have to go through and maybe you can help me out.

Post: #2

Approach #1.
An extreme rarity, I found a pretty girl reading a book alone on a bench in the park. I do the elderly approach, ramble, get some feedback from her, she ends up asking where I'm from and what's my occupation, we have a pleasant chat for what seems at least 10 minutes. Then the Almighty himself sends gusts of wind which raises sand off the ground and makes it uncomfortable to sit on that bench, so I suggest her to go to a café just nearby to drink something. She brings up her boyfriend and now suddenly she has to go to meet her friends and whatnot and she's gone.

Post: #3

Approach #2. Two pretty girls on a park bench. I do the "stone in the shoe" opener that I've learned in this forum, sit down, start rambling, they ask me where I'm from, more ramble. About 1 min into approach they start giggling and laughing even though I made no jokes (just rambling that there's too much sand in this park and whether they know of a park with more grass and flowers etc.) I ignore that giggling and proceed with usual ramble, they eventually ask my age, my job, and after 10-15 mins. they have to go somewhere.
I think I should have switched gears once they started giggling. They definitely realized that this is a disguised pick-up and I could tell they liked me, so probably I should have gone direct game. However, they were barely giving me any input, except smiling and laughing at the random shit I ramble about, so what exactly am I supposed to talk about?

Post: #4

Approach #3. Two pretty girls in a terrace on the street. I come up and say: "Excuse me, is this a good terrace? Has the waiter been friendly to you? Do you know if they give peanuts with the beer?" The ball starts rolling and before you know it I'm sitting at their table and we chat for 10-15 minutes. One is kinda grumpy (probably on her period), the other one is really sweet and friendly, but towards the end she brings up her boyfriend (a soldier as she told, which is plain bullshit if you ask me) and they end up going home

Post: #5

Seems like your having problems transitioning and reading body language. We all go through it. Try using cold reads and truisms which will prompt her to ask why when you stall. Here are some lines I use.

You: "You look like your from XYZ"
Her: "why do I look like I'm from XYZ?"
You: "The reason why I said that is because you remind me of a friend I used to go on adventures with"
Her:" oh ok/is she pretty?/I love adventures
You: (This is where you take control and ramble for a bit while planting sexual suggestions in her sub-conscious) "You seem like a cool and fun person even tho I just met you like 30 secs ago. I don't know if your as fun as you look.
Her: I am
You: On a scale of 1-10?
Her: (Answers range from 8-100, if she says anything over 10 say "I said from 1-10 lol, if she's say 8,9 or 10 you gesture for a high 5 and say "that's what I'm talking about" hold her hands and transition to the next part. I normally ask these questions back to back with rapid speed building a ladder, but in a calm monotone Rooshy father figure voice while looking her dead in her eyes
You: you adventurous? Her: I am/yes You: spontaneous? Her: yes you: sensual? You: Sexual? *This is where things get real sexual and she opens
Her: (Normally at the mention of "sexual" she might chuckle or laugh, mainly because you caught her off guard and she's buying time to figure out how to respond)
You: I'm serious, look at me. You like to get sexual right? Especially if it's with the right person.
Her: yea etc
You: what's your favorite position?
Her: *She might giggle or ask why you are asking her. Just ignore its just a test to see if you will back down*
You: just tell me, I'm not judging you don't have to answer if you don't want to.
Her: well I like it from the back(80% of girls say this)
You: you like it from the back while getting your hair pulled as you're being entered slowly right?
Her: yea
You: how does it make you feel?
*Based on how good you read her cues and body language you'll have her touching your dick. Or even feeling her nipples in 10-15mins. No lie. Just practice this over and over you'll get good quick. The reason why guys end up with flakes or girls "having to leave" is because women have a low tolerance for guys beating around the bush or their guys' conversations lack detail. As a songwriter/musician I know why women flake or bail on you. It's your choice of words, no message, no transition and most importantly NO DETAIL. Women want detail, it's detail that gets their mind going. Good luck

Post: #6

(07-03-2013 08:46 AM)Lord Dobes Wrote:  Seems like your having problems transitioning and reading body language. We all go through it. Try using cold reads and truisms which will prompt her to ask why when you stall. Here are some lines I use.

Stalling is not my problem. Also, transiting to direct game after 30 seconds at day time is a sure way to scare the cat as Roosh put it.

Post: #7

You have to put into consideration what kind of girls you're approaching, what kind of openers your using, how you look, how fit you are, your nerves having the best of you, challenging her, leading the interaction etc Those play a part in your success. Just keep approaching and taking notes from your sticking points. Also YouTube "Julien Infield RSD" and "Justin Wayne" and absorb everything they do. Experiment with it come with something that works for you. For right just focus on slowly putting the pieces together slowly and detach yourself from the outcome. DON'T GIVE UP! No matter what! You're gonna want to, you're gonna be fatigued but soldier on.

But remember to push things further sexually. Forget all that small talk your doing with these bitches. They WANT a guy that's gonna LEAD. Why are you scared of going sexual? Why are you scared out scaring the cat? Fuck all that shit! Suck them into YOUR reality but first you have to have one. Those women left because you were good entertainment for them. The girls from story #2 and #3 stalled because you couldn't/didn't read their non verbals so you beat around the bush with fluff hoping something magical would happen. The girl that was on her "period" was probably annoyed that you weren't taking it anywhere exciting(to sex) or could've been jealous- which you could've handled too. That's what it was trust me I have been in the game long enough to know that's what happened. As time goes by women(western) will become more impatient to bullshit convo which sucks, but that's where it's going. Thank The Lord that women still have their natural desires no matter how entitled they are eg: A strong, confident man.

Post: #8

Man, I'm not afraid of anything, barely any approach anxiety etc. I remember trying to go direct on girls during the day time, the cat is always scared. Well, sometimes they're amused and will talk about sex, but when it comes to making it happen (like exchanging numbers) she chickens out.
Remember, I'm in France, girls aren't that slutty (except maybe the ones on vacation).
Besides, in approaches 1 and 2 I clearly saw that the girls were nervous, shy, but interested in me.

Post: #9

most daygame vids i see on youtube look like a gateway into cringe city.

it must be a rare feat to get to the level where you don't make viewers cringe HARD.

good daygame - lack of neediness, self-amused, good breaking rapport tonality, don't look like a vagina when talking to the girl.

Post: #10

(07-03-2013 12:05 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  most daygame vids i see on youtube look like a gateway into cringe city.

it must be a rare feat to get to the level where you don't make viewers cringe HARD.

good daygame - lack of neediness, self-amused, good breaking rapport tonality, don't look like a vagina when talking to the girl.

I think I possess the qualities you listed. Nobody's typically looking on, as my approaches are calm stress-free elderly ones, raising no suspicion and no fuss

Post: #11

Approach #4. So far the best approach and the girl was also by and large the hottest one (anybody else noticed that hotter girls are able to flirt better?). I found her sitting on a stone block on the street, opened by asking the way to a famous hallmark, ramble about the hallmark itself, traffic and construction work in the city, transition into more personal talk about work, travel, dreams for the future.. it was actually her first day at work as a waitress and she was waiting in front of the restaurant for the owners to come and open it. After 10 minutes of talking, suddenly the owners come and I didn't want to ruin her that first meeting, so I just walked away like a little pussy.

She actually stood up and kept standing throughout, put her phone away, was smiling all the time, and seemed really happy to talk to me.

Post: #12

read this:
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Post: #13

(07-04-2013 12:09 PM)rivelino Wrote:  read this:
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I could try this for the sake of proving a point that it won't work in the French province. Girls are very shy, in tight social circles, even at night they barely ever drink. In short, no crazy latino stuff like you've got in Spain, and no slutty hook-up culture like in the US/UK.

Post: #14

Dude, same problem with where i live, its hard to find alone approachable girls. If you go solo, approaching groups is difficult. Is it possible to find a wing where you live?

Post: #15

I am French (from West Africa actually but whatever) , and I can only agree with what daygame says.
I never got even a number on the street when I went direct ( for many reasons i think: my baby face, the culture here, I am too skinny, etc) except once ( girl drunk who did not even remember yet I managed to date and KC her today) and another time where I followed with indirect rambling ( she was italian, and almost all my closes are foreign).

But I can only recommend you to continue (@daygame) because it's the summer, and foreign and open minded girls can still hook up with you... Describe your facial and body structure, style etc. The game that works for me (indirect and kindness) will for sure almost never work with other people.

Post: #16

(07-04-2013 03:29 PM)mikado Wrote:  I am French (from West Africa actually but whatever) , and I can only agree with what daygame says.
I never got even a number on the street when I went direct ( for many reasons i think: my baby face, the culture here, I am too skinny, etc) except once ( girl drunk who did not even remember yet I managed to date and KC her today) and another time where I followed with indirect rambling ( she was italian, and almost all my closes are foreign).

But I can only recommend you to continue (@daygame) because it's the summer, and foreign and open minded girls can still hook up with you... Describe your facial and body structure, style etc. The game that works for me (indirect and kindness) will for sure almost never work with other people.

I am European, good education, face 6-7 I think, great body after many years in the gym, in the early 20s, looking for a girl my age. I would be happy to settle in a LTR, but I want a local French girl. I already banged 2 of them, but then they ditched me for unknown reasons.

Post: #17

(07-04-2013 03:00 PM)purplelake02 Wrote:  Dude, same problem with where i live, its hard to find alone approachable girls. If you go solo, approaching groups is difficult. Is it possible to find a wing where you live?

I manage to approach groups, sometimes even more than 5 pretty girls at a time. Funny/sexual-tinted conversation follows, but I can't get a solid close. Once you take them apart, they become docile shy little pussies afraid of getting even close to a cock

Post: #18

Approach #5. At about 8pm, while the sun is still up, I walk up to a group of 5 girls on a terrace on the street. "Excuse me, is this a good terrace? Is the staff friendly? Do they give peanuts with the bear?" The hottest chick of the group becomes very interested in me, asks where I'm from, what am I doing in France, so I just sit down with them and start chatting. Five minutes later the waitress comes: "can I take your order?". The chicks were actually about to leave and I was hoping to get invited with them, so I didn't order anything. Five more minutes later, the male staff comes yelling at me and I must get the fuck out of there and he's sick and tired of seeing me everyday hitting on girls in his terrace (totally blew my cover). I felt like punching that dipshit, but the girls already shot a video of me and shared it instantly on FB, so to optimize my chances of getting laid I just walked away like a pathetic loser, straight to my regular pub to start the night game. I am happy that I got my emotions under control and continued having fun despite all the shit being thrown at me.

Post: #19

Approach #6. Girl sitting in the street. I ask if there's any pet shop nearby, start the ramble, and one minute later some dude shows up (friend or bf, whatever). I kept my cover solid, they told me the way, and I left.

Post: #20

Approach #7. Girl eating a piece of cake at the fountain. I ask is it good and whether she got it from the bakery in front. I delivered my best ramble for about 5 minutes, she didn't even ask where am I from (I speak with an obvious accent), but was otherwise friendly and polite. Then she left.

Post: #21

Swimming pool. There are a couple open air swimming pools in the town, and since it's sunny I figured there would be some pretty chicks sunbathing or something. Me, I'm already getting a nice tan, but didn't have a single good target to approach. As a matter of fact, most people going there are children with parents and the elderly. Where do you guys find those magic pool parties with hot chicks in bikinis? I have a ripped body, should be easy for me if only there was any talent...

Post: #22

I messed up two good chances to approach. A single girl eating on a terrace which I didn't approach because I feared that some friend is about to show up as it happens all the time. Another single girl sitting on a bench in the park fiddling with her phone. I did the "stone in the shoe" opener, I sit next to her, but she didn't even react in the slightest way (head turn or whatever). I fiddled with my shoe for 1 minute and left like a pussy. I could have saved the day by making a comment on her shoes (which were winter shoes during a hot summer day, so I figure she was some tourist chick waiting for be hit on). There goes my easy lay... probably some alpha dude is pounding her blond ass right now while I'm sitting here masturbating on the forum...

Post: #23

Approach #8. Two girls on a bench in the park -> "stone in the shoe" opener. I ramble elaborately about that something that stings me in the foot, take my time fiddling with the shoe, they give me no input. Then I ramble about her sandals and that I should get a pair of those too. Conversation slowly develops, but after about 7 minutes they have to go, and they didn't ask me a single personal question (not even where I'm from). I was sticking around in the same park for a while and 30 mins later saw the same two girls back on the bench. I didn't re-approach...

Post: #24

Approach #9. Three girls on a bench in the park -> "stone in the shoe" again. They flood me with questions (nationality, age, name, how many languages do I speak), but were dumb little bitches fiddling with their phones and had no attention span for any of my elaborate stories. After 10 minutes they stand up and leave not even saying "bye".