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Wow, very powerful.

'Because she wasn't happy".

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That video is tough to watch when you've seen friends go through the exact situation first hand.

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My grandfather served in WW2.

He was awarded a Bronze Star.

My brother was looking at joining (shortly before 9/11) for the benefits etc. and my grandfather told him not to "because there's nothing left worth fighting for."

He didn't join.

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When my brother was in the military he had some of his friends kill themselves because their wives were fucking around on them back in the states while they were away. One of these kids was like nineteen years old and it was his highschool girlfriend that he married. He's fucking dead now.


Our leadership has failed. They no longer deserve our support.

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In the movie Jarhead they use the VHS porn tape the guy's wife/gf (whatever she was to him, I can't remember) made with another guy for humor.

In the book the author recounts that it fucked the guy up mentally.

I know a guy who lives in a Navy town. His "Game" advice?

Watch the news and when you see them cover a carrier leaving for deployment, hit the bars near the base and pick up a bitch for time the carrier is deployed.

He says they're basically your wife for the time the ship is gone.

Meanwhile the guy is sleeping near the catapult/arrestor gear, the ship could be attacked, there could be a fire or explosion, it's boring out there. The dude is probably writing emails to "his" girl the whole time. Then again, he may be one of the guys who wishes they still put in at Pubic Bay.

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When I was in the Army it was easy to spot the whores. When a unit was deploying all you had to do was sit back and watch the broad that was making the biggest show about her man deploying. These were invariably the same women who would be slutting it up that night at the NCO or enlisted club. And it's not just the enlisted wives. I caught my Platoon Commanders wife dirty dancing and about to leave a bar with a guy until she say me. That bitch got real sober and real demure with a quickness. I would estimate that 80% of military wives fuck around on their husbands. Love No Bitch, Trust No Ho was my motto.

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Video summed up: Dude marries wrong woman, loses everything.

The video was well put together and deserves credit for that, it lost me at the end with its ridiculousness.



"Only 1.5% get fair treatment from the court system" - fair is a subjective term and therefore has no basis in statistics.



"Most will live the rest of their lives in poverty" - most is an unquantifiable term. And "poverty" is vague and also subjective.



"Most will be alienated from their children" - theres that word "most" again. And I am curious as to what alienated refers to; are "most" of them being cut off completely from their children or are they going through the same child visitation system that just about divorced man in the country, regardless of military service, deals with?



"Countless veterans a month choose this option" - I will agree the suicide rate in the military is alarming, but not surprising.



"I love my country, but my country doesn't love me" - absolutely wrong. Military servicemembers and veterans get discounts all over the place. The media portrays every single soldier to be a hero. Veterans get preferential treatment in job hiring, their employers get tax breaks for doing so. Many states offer free college education to veterans, others can use their GI bill benefits to pay for college. Want to buy a house for 0% down, theres a VA loan for that. Want to start a business as a vet? There a program for that to help you get funding up to 250k and give you free consultation.

America loves it soldiers. So yes, the country is still worth fighting for.

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(05-27-2013 12:29 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:  Video summed up: Dude marries wrong woman, loses everything.

The video was well put together and deserves credit for that, it lost me at the end with its ridiculousness.



"Only 1.5% get fair treatment from the court system" - fair is a subjective term and therefore has no basis in statistics.



"Most will live the rest of their lives in poverty" - most is an unquantifiable term. And "poverty" is vague and also subjective.



"Most will be alienated from their children" - theres that word "most" again. And I am curious as to what alienated refers to; are "most" of them being cut off completely from their children or are they going through the same child visitation system that just about divorced man in the country, regardless of military service, deals with?



"Countless veterans a month choose this option" - I will agree the suicide rate in the military is alarming, but not surprising.



"I love my country, but my country doesn't love me" - absolutely wrong. Military servicemembers and veterans get discounts all over the place. The media portrays every single soldier to be a hero. Veterans get preferential treatment in job hiring, their employers get tax breaks for doing so. Many states offer free college education to veterans, others can use their GI bill benefits to pay for college. Want to buy a house for 0% down, theres a VA loan for that. Want to start a business as a vet? There a program for that to help you get funding up to 250k and give you free consultation.

America loves it soldiers. So yes, the country is still worth fighting for.

The laundry list of sleep aids and psychotropics that they're giving these guys is astonishing. Pre and post deployment. And the Veterans Administration is dropping the ball as far as services for these guys. Who cares if you get a discount at T.G.I.Fridays when you've got so many horrible images floating around inside your head. I figured out early that the military is a death cult, and the easiest way to survive it with your soul and psyche intact is to assume that you're already dead. There's nothing as sobering as a 19 year old combat vet that has a will, living will, and a standing agreement with medical personnel that if they're severally burned up, or have their genitals blown off to let them die.

And as far as their family life, the military really doesn't want you to have one. A family is a distraction, and it costs them money, and resources to support them.

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In a lot of these situations these guys shouldn't be getting married. I almost fell into the trap also. Guy joins the military after high school then gets lonely. The old GF from high school sees marriage as a way out and the man sees it as a way out of loneliness.... next thing ya know the guy is deployed and the bitch is fucking every mother fucker in town while writing bad checks. If their are kids at this point even if she is humane and lets you see them she will likely move back home with your kids hundreds-thousands of miles away. They need to educate the soldiers on this more but I guess that wouldn't be politically correct.

Another common scenario is the soldier gets PCSd and marries whatever girl he is dating at the time which turns out the same way.

Or getting deployed and marrying your gf so you can get separation pay... or marrying a girl to get out of the barracks. They almost always turn out bad

A lot of these bases are in shitty towns where the girl to guy ratio is absolutely awful. Fort Bragg was absolute shit.

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Lets all be fair though. Guys would and do do the same shit when they have the opportunity. Let every deployed soldier head to thailand for RR and see how many are faithful.

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(05-27-2013 10:10 AM)Jaydublin Wrote:  In a lot of these situations these guys shouldn't be getting married. I almost fell into the trap also. Guy joins the military after high school then gets lonely. The old GF from high school sees marriage as a way out and the man sees it as a way out of loneliness.... next thing ya know the guy is deployed and the bitch is fucking every mother fucker in town while writing bad checks. If their are kids at this point even if she is humane and lets you see them she will likely move back home with your kids hundreds-thousands of miles away. They need to educate the soldiers on this more but I guess that wouldn't be politically correct.

Another common scenario is the soldier gets PCSd and marries whatever girl he is dating at the time which turns out the same way.

Or getting deployed and marrying your gf so you can get separation pay... or marrying a girl to get out of the barracks. They almost always turn out bad

A lot of these bases are in shitty towns where the girl to guy ratio is absolutely awful. Fort Bragg was absolute shit.

I have a family member that works on a base this guy came back and attempted suicide, failed, tried again in the hospital, they caught him, then tried again later, last I heard he was in critical condition, but apparently his wife came in and was only asking about money as she was trying to get money were he to successfully kill himself.

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Tom Leykis discussed this once on his show. He was talking to a caller who was in the army and whose wife had being doing the dirty on him.

Leykis said that something always amazed him about these brave soldiers. They can go to the most dangerous places in the world, and risk their lives in treacherous situations.

Yet most of these guys seemed to fear only one thing.

Coming home to an empty house.

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I can appreciate the spirit of the video, but there are some things worth mentioning.

I'm in a similar situation as JimNortonFan. I've got a grandpa that was a Master Seargant in WW2. Other grandpa was a pilot over Normandy and in Korea. Dad was a decorated combat grunt in Vietnam. I've had the three of them telling me my entire life: don't bother getting involved.

What's going on with today's combat vets is simply a continuation of a story that starts with Vietnam. WW2 was different because the ENTIRE population mobilized for a common cause. The lines between civilian and service member were blurred; it was a true team spirit. The entire POPULATION felt invested in the outcome of the war, that our livelihood depended on it. That sentiment has not existed in any conflict since WW2. Now, you've got the U.S. committing our armed forces for reasons that the general population doesn't really understand. Sure, we're told it's all under the catch-all guise of "making the world a safer place", but it's still within the mechanism of treating the armed forces as a trained pit bull that we command to attack whoever or whatever we want on a whim. There is no mobilization of the POPULATION to support the cause, so the population does not get invested. It's a rather socialist approach to resolving conflict; the army is now our international police force. In a democracy, where conscription rules, the common man takes up arms to defend the values and sovereignty of his country. What an antiquated concept, I know. But in that case, the values of the society itself change to support the citizens that have sacrificed their wellbeing to defend the country. You would not find women that "aren't happy anymore" or at least you wouldn't hear about them, because they would be shamed indefinitely for not supporting those that have made such a sacrifice. Chances are, plenty of those women would be sacrificing something themselves; volunteering at a hospital or office agency to help the war machine along.

While I feel immensely for today's service members, they should understand what they're getting themselves into and what to expect. I know if I joined the armed forces (too late now), I would probably make a career out of it and after discharge find employment with Blackwater or other private security agency making 6 figures. I would not seek a family, and I would go into bars telling women that I'm a professional assassin for hire, and then pump n dump them.

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Anyone who thinks soldiers wives were any more faithful during WWII than they are today is blind. There are plenty of stories out there by men who stayed back in the US and Britain and cleaned up banging soldiers wives. I do think the problem is probably a little worse today because more soldiers are coming back. The US mortality rate in todays combat zones is practically zero compared to wars past.

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The nice thing about conscription is that you have fewer wars. As people are alot less eager to support military action when they know that it will be their family who has to go overseas to fight.

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(05-27-2013 10:31 AM)gamepadawan Wrote:  last I heard he was in critical condition, but apparently his wife came in and was only asking about money as she was trying to get money were he to successfully kill himself.

Fucking whore.

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Reminds me of what a SFC told me once about avoiding having kids- "If you are going into battle, wear your Kevlar."

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(05-27-2013 10:54 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(05-27-2013 10:31 AM)gamepadawan Wrote:  last I heard he was in critical condition, but apparently his wife came in and was only asking about money as she was trying to get money were he to successfully kill himself.

Fucking whore.

Most buddies of mine, after breaking up with their GFs were asked for financial compensation by the broads for their time together.

Fuck, if anything, the $800/hr escorts definitely have greater love respect for their Beta clients than your typical middle class Anglo Skanxon Succubus Americanus.

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Granted, I know things change over time. And granted Hollywood makes things seem better. But in the days past it seems women waited faithfully for their men. And worried about their well being.

I get that many men here look at women like pieces of meat, but I have not sensed that any would welcome the death of any women they have been with.

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(05-27-2013 10:10 AM)Jaydublin Wrote:  ... next thing ya know the guy is deployed and the bitch is fucking every mother fucker in town while writing bad checks.

Exact words what happened to my friend. He came back all pissed and she wanted a divorce. Dude got into a heated but non physical argument so she called the cops on him for domestic violence. In Michigan, someone has to go to jail. Guess who went to jail?


She played him, myself, and everyone. She seemed so sweet and nice during their dating period of a year. No fucking clue. I just couldn't believe how vile a woman could be.

That def opened my eyes

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It sucks. In these military towns the girls value increases so much and the dudes decreases. then when you tack on a long deployment he is just in a shitty situation. The guys naturally become a little desperate and can you blame him? its extremely difficult, if not impossible, for him to have control of the situation.

The soldiers would be better off if they bussed in hundreds of hookers every weekend.

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(05-27-2013 12:59 PM)CThunder86 Wrote:  

(05-27-2013 10:10 AM)Jaydublin Wrote:  ... next thing ya know the guy is deployed and the bitch is fucking every mother fucker in town while writing bad checks.

Exact words what happened to my friend. He came back all pissed and she wanted a divorce. Dude got into a heated but non physical argument so she called the cops on him for domestic violence. In Michigan, someone has to go to jail. Guess who went to jail?


She played him, myself, and everyone. She seemed so sweet and nice during their dating period of a year. No fucking clue. I just couldn't believe how vile a woman could be.

That def opened my eyes

A year is not long enough. You're talking quarantine here. It takes YEARS of being in an LTR to see the real her. And none of this "We'll get married" stuff. She has to think the LTR is it, that there will be no marriage. If she's ok then she may be ok when married. Too many can act ok if they think it's leading to marriage then they let the real her out.

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(05-27-2013 10:50 AM)Ensam Wrote:  Anyone who thinks soldiers wives were any more faithful during WWII than they are today is blind. There are plenty of stories out there by men who stayed back in the US and Britain and cleaned up banging soldiers wives. I do think the problem is probably a little worse today because more soldiers are coming back. The US mortality rate in todays combat zones is practically zero compared to wars past.

I do think they were more faithful. Obviously there's infidelity in women in all ages across history in varying degrees depending on the socioeconomic climate. What's different though, and I do know this about the 40s and 50s, is affairs were largely kept secret. Households were not destroyed and bank accounts were not emptied.

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Just finished watching Vietnam in HD today. Great documentary. Makes me proud.