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Yesterday i got some new insights to game that i want to share with you.

My end result yesterday night: Bringing a random girl home and fucking her in pussy, ass and mouth. Fisted her, told her all kinds of dirty shit, held her in a light chokehold, and slapped her cheeks and her butt pretty hard. This was my 48th bang.
Time from meet to bang: 1 hour and 30 minutes at MOST. But i think that i banged her in less than an hour.

Venue of the pick up: Rosie Mcgees http://en.rosiemcgees.dk.
A very cosy bar, with a lot of tourists and foreigners. Right next to The Tivoli Park, and the main train station.
time: between 10 and 12 in the night. This meant, that there was still a nice male/female ratio, and none of the men had begun their drunk approach game yet

Her appearance and stats:
Boner test: Passed early on in the conversation.
Body:Normal build, flat stomach. Piercing in one nipple. Bangable. normal legs. (I prefer very petite legs)
Height: 5,8' would be my guess. Age: 22.
Style: black hair, lip piercing, typical Danish boring style with a thin leatherjacket, and som New Balance sneakers.
Not someone i would take home to my parents, but i would definately bang again. She seemed mentally healthy and intelligent, as she was a math student.

My appearance:
Leather jacket, with a denim vest underneath. Black slim fit jeans from H&M. Black leather boots.
SECRET WEAPON FOR SMALL GUYS: I have installed heel lifters inside my boots. Adding the normal heel and the ekstra lifters, i go from 5,8' (172 cm) without shoes, to 5,10' (180 cm) with my boots. In my world view, too many guys complain about height. but it is possible to alter your height. -High shoes and high hair. Some might find it silly, but I don't give a fuck what people think as long as i get results.
I am 20 years old, but I tell girls who are older than me, that i am 23.
-Clean shaven, short hair in the sides, and a little bit tanned.
My skin has become very nice lately. (Zink maybe?)
I have begun using baking soda under my arms to, and it seems to keep odors away.
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This would normally be a simple pick up, but the one thing that really worked for me, was that i conned/decieved her to believing that I was a foreigner who was new in town.

This is a quick breakdown: I went out with my new Dutch/carribean friend, who is a realist, and a former hustler. He dealed coke/crack in his early 20's and he has banged a lot of women. I had been going out with him wednesday and friday and now saturday we went out really early in the afternoon. Naturally, i had been speaking a lot of english, as he is one of the few people that i communicate with besides girls. So when my brain was in that english speaking mode, I opened a girl in english in the smokers session (I don't smoke).
I had read somewhere on this forum, that you should not tell a girl what you do. So i tried it out, and i didn't tell my nationality, or anything about what i do. I only told her that i was in Copenhagen to study. It INTRIGUED her to say the least. I now had i kind of foreigner status, and it was by sheer coincidence.
Now here comes the another benefit in addation to the exotic status. The girl I was creeping on, was talking to her girlfriend in danish (my native language).. So I understood everything, and they thought that i didn't understand anything. I got access to secret girl talk, and I knew she was going to bang me, when she talked to her friend. The freind left, and i was left alone with my girl. (LUCKY)
Then i asked her if she wanted to grab 2 drinks at my place, and told her we could always go back.
Of course i was physically aggressive, well calibrated in displaying interest and displaying disinterest. I was also sexual in my touching, right from the start.
We took the 10 minute cab drive to my place, and then i fucked her 4 times in a row with no pain in my dick what so ever!!! (Normally I would only be able to do it 2 times in one night if lucky. This must be because i began to use zink. I pop 70 mg of zink everyday, and lately i have had the strangest dreams, and a lot more energy than usual.)
She never found out that I was danish until she discovered my facebook a couple of hours after she had left in the morning.
She still wants to come to sleep at my place tomorrow because even though she was dissapointed that i lied, I still fucked her good and hard.

To sum it up shortly:
Effective game strategies:
1. Posing as a foreigner in your home country.
2. Not telling her what you do, or where you are from.
3. Using shoe lifters to become taller. (it makes the pool of possible pussy larger)

Effective tools:
Zink: I think this made it possible for me to get 4 orgasms in a row. I suspect that it affects me in my attitude and confidence too. VERY potent shit.
Apple cider vinegar: I feel good now (could be the zink also)
Baking soda: I used it, so i didn't smell.
Bathmate: It is my hydro-penis-pump that i use to get a thicker penis.
My appartment: It smells good, it is cosy with a lot of plants, and pillows. It is a very sexual environment, when I turn on my candle lights.

Conclusion: All the little details combined have a great effect in the end. When it comes to the larger picture, all those gimmicks, and acts play together. This experience have really made me think more about the concept of reality. There were all kinds of cues, that i was danish. But it was like she wanted to believe me. She just accepted the reality that I presented to her. I think that by being better in english than her, I could dominate her more. I totally dominated the conversation, as I was more fluent than her. I think she would not have been as submissive to me, if she was able to communicate better.

Let me hear some stories.
Have anyone ever tried to pose as a foreigner?
Do you ever use fake identities?
Can you be a different person, just by speaking a different language?
Do your fluency in the language affect your behaviour? (I think she wouldn't have been as submissive, if we were conversating in our native language)
Does it really make it easier to get sex in some places, to have a kind of exotic status, or was it a correlation more than a causation?
Anyone else who are trying to increase height by using lifters or tall shoes?

Post: #2

If you have a british accent, you should swim in pussy

Post: #3

My Brazilian friend did this in Brazil when he got back from the states. He told some Brazilian girls he didn't know Portuguese. They kept talking to his friends about him in Portuguese and he understood everything. It sounded pretty fun.

I've had the opposite happen to me when I was in Brazil. I was at a bar in Sao Paulo and some girls thought I was bullshitting about being foreign. It was pretty frustrating.

Post: #4

Is any RVF accessory missing from this post? I think not!

Great one

(I've never posed as a foreigner, but I like opening by talking on the phone with someone in a foreign language)

Post: #5

A little bit off-topic. InternationPlayBoy, maybe you know:

What do you do if you actually are a foreigner, but you've mastered the local language so well you sound like a native? I'd love to play that game and use Roosh's classis line: 'Where I'm from...', but I feel due to my almost native accent it makes me sound a bit ridiculous

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(04-15-2013 03:41 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  A little bit off-topic. InternationPlayBoy, maybe you know:

What do you do if you actually are a foreigner, but you've mastered the local language so well you sound like a native? I'd love to play that game and use Roosh's classis line: 'Where I'm from...', but I feel due to my almost native accent it makes me sound a bit ridiculous

Hmmm.... Not sure on this approach. The funny thing was, what I wrote about the girls not believing I was foreign, I wasn't even speaking to them in Portuguese. All in English. My Portuguese was very bad at the time, and when I would say the few words I did know they would say, "See, he knows Portuguese!" Even though it was the most basic Portuguese ever probably spoken with a very thick accent, they thought I was faking the accent and my non existent knowledge of the language. The thought I was posing as a foreigner to gain easy pussy.

Post: #7

I did. Ask Smitty

Post: #8

Actually I did pretty much the same thing approx. two years ago. Although I never looked at it from a game perspective.

The setting

Was at a bar with one or two buddies and if I remember correctly one of my buddies opened a set of 3 or 4 girls or knew already a girl from the set.

One of the girls was incredibly hot and quite wild. She was making out with a young guy who seemed to be her fuck buddy or so. Later I learned he was her current date. Although I was going against long odds, I tried to spit some game at her while I was winging my buddy and talking to the fat mother of the group.

The game

It's too long ago and I don't remember my exact words and how it started, but it went somewhat along the line of:

Girl said something to me or asked me something.

Me pretended to not understand her or to not speak Swiss German. I probably made fun of her somehow, but I don't recall that.

Girl got intrigued and asked me where I was from etc.

I kept playing the role game, answered in English and told her to be from California. Played the mysterious card not telling what I do for a living. I might have used a line like
"I run my own business.. import/export of illegal substances. I can't talk about it, sorry"
or
"I do online marketing.. health niche. Have you ever received one of those emails pitching viagra? Yeah? Well, that was me, sorry about that".
In this context you gotta understand that it's obvious that I'm kidding and I'm not trying to pretend I'm some badass thug.

Girl tells me she was in Australia for a couple of months, attending a language school and traveling like many Swiss girls do after apprenticeship or studies.

I keep making fun of her funny accent and bad English skills, telling her that Australian and British English sounds gay (sorry guys). I can only pull this because it's very loud and she's quite drunk, otherwise she would have noticed that my English is also mediocre and that I have accent.

I start kino and keep qualifying and neging her. Sometimes she leaves and talkes with other people or dances. The place is very crowded. Luckily her FB chimes in only once or twice for a short time and disappears again, joining his buddies in another corner of the bar. I stay calm and have fun with other people.

I don't wait for her, I move to the bar or smoking area on my own. When I cross path with her I blink and pinch her hip, but don't stop or try to start talking to her. DHV, I'm not chasing her.

We meet each other at her and my friends spot in the bar again. Some more talk, always keeping it extremely funny and high energy.

The turning point

Now she starts grinding with me. She orders shots for the two of us, we get double shots because she knows the female bartender. She's extremely wild and I'm not anywhere near her level in terms of alcohol.

On the way to the smoking area we cross path with her FB/date. She's holding my hand. He's like WTF and confronts her. I can't hear their conversation. She's shaking her head. He tries to take her hands or grab her. I'm not sure what's going to happen and I'm expecting to lose her since they knew each other already while we're only 1-1.5h into our interaction.
The guy is very upset and angry and has 2-3 buddies behind him, I'm mentally preparing for a confrontation. It heats up and finally she's literally pushing him away and starts walking away while pulling me with her.

In that moment I really felt somewhat sorry for the guy. He didn't do anything wrong, he just lost his date and sure lay for the night in front of his buddies to another guy who's probably 8 years older.

From there it was easy. She had decided to fuck me this night if I wouldn't fuck this up. Only mistake I could have done then would have been trying to take her home too fast since she was in party mood and wanted to enjoy the night as long as possible. Game, set, match.

Management summary

Game strategies:
1. Posing as a foreigner in your home country.
2. Not telling her what you do, or where you are from.
3. Neging
4. Qualifying
5. Kino
6. DHV
7. Aloof, staying unaffected by her leaving me

Effective tools:
Harem: Keeping neediness to a minimum.

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(04-15-2013 03:41 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  A little bit off-topic. InternationPlayBoy, maybe you know:

What do you do if you actually are a foreigner, but you've mastered the local language so well you sound like a native? I'd love to play that game and use Roosh's classis line: 'Where I'm from...', but I feel due to my almost native accent it makes me sound a bit ridiculous

Actually, this is not as strange as it seems. I consider myself a language bang specialist of sorts. I have gotten laid with a British accent while travelling several times and it also worked back where I'm from (New York City). In addition, I am ethnically Chinese and have a perfect Mandarin accent but I was born in the States and grew up there so I always use the 'Where I'm from...' with the local Chinese girls. It makes them super curious and helps me regain a foreign edge that might be lost with my Chinese look.

Post: #10

I can pull of a German accent. But it's useless. Being black and German isn't to much of a exotic factor.
I don't pose as a foreigner. I just tell all girls I only recently moved to the city.
Since I've traveled and lived abroad s much, I can always pull a story and tell it for dhv. Women love hearing travel stories.
I pull a lot of chicks from couch surfing with the same lines

Post: #11

(04-15-2013 09:26 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  I can pull of a German accent. But it's useless. Being black and German isn't to much of a exotic factor.
I don't pose as a foreigner. I just tell all girls I only recently moved to the city.
Since I've traveled and lived abroad s much, I can always pull a story and tell it for dhv. Women love hearing travel stories.
I pull a lot of chicks from couch surfing with the same lines

I've traveled a lot and have some stories, but I'm not really that good at putting it across that I've had some interesting experiences - i.e., story telling.

Do you have any tips on how to tell a good travel story?

Post: #12

I don't know.
Im a natural story teller.
Hype up every event. use flavor words.
Even a boring story like riding bus can seem interesting.
I rode a small bus for like 7 hours from budapest to vienna. I slept almost the whole way.
Instead I describe the process of taking little trains all around the city till i found the right bus station for my ticket then bargaining with a lady that didnt speak english to get on the bus.

Post: #13

Haha. Great Thread.

I can and do do this since I have a weird (in a good way) accent that is largely unplaceable unless I talk for a very long time, the listener is quite well traveled, they pay very close attention and they. Then maybe they will catch a clue or two.

It's a very useful tool to have if you have any pretensions of being an international man of mystery. I just need to get the other 99 requirements sorted now.

Post: #14

Quite interesting.

How did u deal with her asking where ur from? Ur age, ur job ect ect? Just change topic ? Or what?

Withholding basic personal information that is the basis of your identity (race, home country, name, age, job) make you seem mysterious and typically seems to work extremely well with westernized girls.

So far it's usually just been scary with Asians but I'm interested to give it another bash.

Post: #15

Some great stuff in this post..

(04-14-2013 06:23 PM)makaveli Wrote:  SECRET WEAPON FOR SMALL GUYS: I have installed heel lifters inside my boots. Adding the normal heel and the ekstra lifters, i go from 5,8' (172 cm) without shoes, to 5,10' (180 cm) with my boots. In my world view, too many guys complain about height. but it is possible to alter your height. -High shoes and high hair. Some might find it silly, but I don't give a fuck what people think as long as i get results

All short guys should do this.

(04-14-2013 06:23 PM)makaveli Wrote:  My appartment: It smells good, it is cosy with a lot of plants, and pillows. It is a very sexual environment, when I turn on my candle lights.

"sexual environment".

Nice.

I need more plants in my apartment.

(04-14-2013 06:23 PM)makaveli Wrote:  Have anyone ever tried to pose as a foreigner?

In high school, I pretended to be an Italian model from Milan.

I spoke with a fake Italian accent. I told girls my name was "Stefano" and I was in San Francisco for modeling work.

They loved it. They told all their friends -- "oh my god, he is a model from Italy"

I pretended that I didn't speak English and just smiled.

A beautiful rich American girl took me home.

Girls love accents and new, exciting experiences.

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(04-15-2013 05:13 AM)dotbiz Wrote:  Me pretended to not understand her or to not speak Swiss German. I probably made fun of her somehow, but I don't recall that.

Girl got intrigued and asked me where I was from etc.

I kept playing the role game, answered in English and told her to be from California. Played the mysterious card not telling what I do for a living. I might have used a line like
"I run my own business.. import/export of illegal substances. I can't talk about it, sorry"
or
"I do online marketing.. health niche. Have you ever received one of those emails pitching viagra? Yeah? Well, that was me, sorry about that".
In this context you gotta understand that it's obvious that I'm kidding and I'm not trying to pretend I'm some badass thug.

Funny, it really intrigues some girls that they don't know. But then again, if somebody tell me that they have a secret gift for me, I will get more "attracted" and curious.. It's like when you were a child, and people had secrets for you. The person with the secret was so interesting all of a sudden.

(04-15-2013 04:16 PM)Ilikekane Wrote:  Quite interesting.

How did u deal with her asking where ur from? Ur age, ur job ect ect? Just change topic ? Or what?

I just told her: "I'm not going to tell you where I'm from right now. I will let you know later. I promise"
When asked for job: "I'm not going to tell you. I'm not a criminal, but I'm not going to tell you right now" (said in a playful tone)
I think it would've been lame to just change topic in thissituation. I was just sincere in saying that I was not going to tell her. Told her some very personal things though, and told her that "you are not your job, and you are not defined by the coincidence of where you were born"

When girls are asking for my age, I always let them guess. And then i ask for her age. My response depends on her age. If she is 22, I say 23.
If she says 18, I'm 20. If 27, I'm 23. I am calibrating my response to the specific girl.

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(04-15-2013 04:39 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  Some great stuff in this post..

(04-14-2013 06:23 PM)makaveli Wrote:  SECRET WEAPON FOR SMALL GUYS: I have installed heel lifters inside my boots. Adding the normal heel and the ekstra lifters, i go from 5,8' (172 cm) without shoes, to 5,10' (180 cm) with my boots. In my world view, too many guys complain about height. but it is possible to alter your height. -High shoes and high hair. Some might find it silly, but I don't give a fuck what people think as long as i get results

All short guys should do this.

(04-14-2013 06:23 PM)makaveli Wrote:  My appartment: It smells good, it is cosy with a lot of plants, and pillows. It is a very sexual environment, when I turn on my candle lights.

"sexual environment".

Nice.

I need more plants in my apartment.

Yes. Plants, candles that smell good, a music playlist that sets the mood, art that inspires sexual thoughts, indirect light sources creating a lot of shadows. Chocolate, drinks, food.

I'd say that once a girl is in my one room appartment, it is dark outside and the candles are on, it is like an unreal dream world, where it is hard to resist me advancements

Also - short guys can buy actual shoes that is lifted inside. People won't notice, as it just looks like normal shoes.

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(04-16-2013 08:05 AM)makaveli Wrote:  Yes. Plants, candles that smell good, a music playlist that sets the mood, art that inspires sexual thoughts, indirect light sources creating a lot of shadows. Chocolate, drinks, food.

I'd say that once a girl is in my one room appartment, it is dark outside and the candles are on, it is like an unreal dream world,

Setting the mood. Creating the environment. Ambiance.

Art that inspires sex.

I love it.

I have been transforming my apartment. I want my apartment to feel like a fantasy world. I want my apartment to feel like a separate reality

This is how it was:



This is how it will be:

Post: #18

That would be like going into a fantasy world in the last picture.
An essence of seduction is to play with peoples fantasies. That means playing with the environment too.

What makes a powerful seduction in my opinion is drawing people away from their boring everyday lives, and give them some adventures.

Post: #19

Stick with your apartment looking like the 1st pic. The 2nd pic makes me feel like vomiting.

Post: #20

(04-16-2013 12:10 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  This is how it will be:

Looks good.

It's amazing that ultraviolet lighting isn't much more popular than it is. Some people apparently think it's "corny", but they are ridiculous. Ultraviolet blue or purple light is probably the coolest light, and also the most flattering on the skin.

I sometimes feel like George in the Seinfeld episode where he says that if it were socially accepted he'd dress in velvet from head to toe. I feel this way about ultraviolet lighting.