Post: #26

(04-04-2013 10:03 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 10:00 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 09:58 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  I occasionally get Exploding Head Syndrome, at times if in addition to Sleep Paralysis it drives me insane.

I often get it as a gunshot noise or a very loud CRACK/TOC noise.

There is another episode similar to paralysis called a 'hypnagogic' episode, which basically happens right as your brain is disconnecting and you are falling asleep. Basically, you will hear whispers or see images that aren't really there. I often have someone whispering in my ear "hey!"

Nobody there. Just my fucked brain.

I've had stuff like this too while in a somewhat lucid/hypnogogic state. Hearing voices mumbling random things that sometimes are intelligible, sometimes not. Then again, you sometimes wonder if maybe there is some pathway to an alternative reality you're tuned in to.

I get this all the time in my recent corpse pose experiences. I had a voice the other day come to me and say, "remember what it was like to be a billionaire."

Wow glad to know this is a real thing and I wasn't just bugged the fuck out.

Post: #27

(04-04-2013 10:03 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 10:00 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 09:58 PM)Emancipator Wrote:  I occasionally get Exploding Head Syndrome, at times if in addition to Sleep Paralysis it drives me insane.

I often get it as a gunshot noise or a very loud CRACK/TOC noise.

There is another episode similar to paralysis called a 'hypnagogic' episode, which basically happens right as your brain is disconnecting and you are falling asleep. Basically, you will hear whispers or see images that aren't really there. I often have someone whispering in my ear "hey!"

Nobody there. Just my fucked brain.

I've had stuff like this too while in a somewhat lucid/hypnogogic state. Hearing voices mumbling random things that sometimes are intelligible, sometimes not. Then again, you sometimes wonder if maybe there is some pathway to an alternative reality you're tuned in to.

It's gotten so bad before I've actually considered getting one of those sleep studies done. Haven't yet though.

Post: #28

Yeah - that is annoying. I also sometimes hear my voice being shouted out just as I'm drifting off to sleep.

On a separate point. I was reading recently that psychologists are slowly coming to the realisation that hallucinations are quite normal and common in a significant proportion of the sane population. And as such should be separated out from what we think of as mental illnesses.

I can't find that article just now. But the wikipedia page covers the same area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinations_in_the_sane

I think this is interesting. Since alot of sane people experience hallucinations. Many of them will become concerned that they are 'mad' - since they have being told that only 'mad' people have hallucinations.

As a result this sets off a chain of paranoid behaviour in which they create a circular belief system in which they slowly convince themselves they are 'mad'.

Which then creates the unfortunate situation where they will often end up being officially diagnosed as 'mad' as a result of their paranoia and hallucinations. Which then just reinforces the mistaken circular belief system once again. Thus setting off the cycle again...

It is a fascinating thing the way we shape language. And the way language shapes us in return. For instance - I don't believe in depression. At all. In any sense of the word. And I don't give a fuck about your 'experiences' of 'depression' in the same way I don't give a fuck about your 'experiences' about any 'ghosts' you have seen.

And a curious side effect of such an attitude is that it is literally impossible for me to ever be depressed. In the same way that it is impossible to be hypnotised unless you are already familar with the concept of hypnosis to begin with.

But that is a topic for another discussion.

Post: #29

(04-04-2013 09:50 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(04-04-2013 09:42 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I have a buddy who told me once about his experience with sleep paralysis. It involved seeing dark shapes and figures moving around the room trying to strangle him. Crazy what the mind is capable of..

Yeah, when I was younger I'd hear loud whirring noises, it would feel like something heavy was pressing down on my back or chest(still get that now to some degree), sometimes shadowy things out the periphery of my vision. or often an innocuous object in the room like a lamp would look like a monster. I had a really weird episode a few months ago. I have a plant that sits on my nightstand next to my bed, it looks like a little palm or something, but I was having a dream that I was on a subway and all of a sudden there was this weird shape that appeared in the air and in the dream I was like, what the fuck is that. And then as I woke up, it was the shape of the plant. I guess my eyes were open and somehow visual stimulation was being interwoven with the dream. When I was in my early 20s, I had a Bob Marley poster above my bed. I had this sleep paralysis state and I was looking up at the poster and Bob Marley was shaking his head side to side so fast it looked like a blur. I just freaked! But I couldn't move or wake myself up. And the weird thing about it is the only part of my body I can control are my eyes and my breathing. But I try to keep my eyes shut when it's happening because any little thing in the room that looks unusual will look terrifying and you always have this ominous presence like something is coming toward you. I've never taken LCD but this is what I'd imagine a really bad trip must feel like.

Edit --

For some reason this almost never happens at night. It's mostly likely to happen as other have said above, during daytime naps when you're feeling drowsy, especially if you fall asleep in front of the TV. And for some odd reason, it has NEVER once happened in my life when someone else is in the room. It only happens when I'm alone.

That sounds horrible. It seems like you learned to cope/handle these situations though which is great. I've heard it can get potentially life threatening if you are someone who panics and is not able to control anxiety from this.

Quote:Once I ate bison heart. I seared it in garlic and oil a minute each side. My girl at the time dared me to eat a piece raw so I did.

I had the most vivid insane dreams of my life that night. I was in a UFO with a Native American going underwater through futuristic cities it was bugged out. I did research the next day and supposedly heart has high amounts of co enzyme q 10 in it which can enhance dreams.

Lately I've been trying to lay down for forty minutes a day. I'm bad at naps but I just close my eyes and keep them closed. Usually I lay flat on the floor on my back or on a couch on my back. I jump in and out of lucid dreams. When my timer goes off I have that feeling where I ask myself, "was I ever even sleeping that whole time?"

Pretty cool stuff to experiment with.

I wonder what would happen with ingesting multiple bison hearts..

Post: #30

This is the shit I really want to learn.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision...ta_24a.htm

Scientific remote viewing during meditation. You can travel to other dimensions and chill with other beings. Shit is for real.

Post: #31

(04-04-2013 10:13 PM)cardguy Wrote:  Yeah - that is annoying. I also sometimes hear my voice being shouted out just as I'm drifting off to sleep.

On a separate point. I was reading recently that psychologists are slowly coming to the realisation that hallucinations are quite normal and common in a significant proportion of the sane population. And as such should be separated out from what we think of as mental illnesses.

I can't find that article just now. But the wikipedia page covers the same area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinations_in_the_sane

I think this interesting. Since alot of sane people experience hallucinations. Many of them will become concerned that they are 'mad' - since they have being told that only 'mad' people have hallucinations.

As a result this sets off a chain of paranoid behaviour in which they create a circular belief system in which they slowly convince themselves they are 'mad'.

Which then creates the unfortunate situation where they will often end up being officially diagnosed as 'mad' as a result of their paranoia and hallucinations. Which then just reinforces the mistaken circular belief system once again. Thus setting off the cycle again...

It is a fascinating thing the way we shape language. And the way language shapes us in return. For instance - I don't believe in depression. At all. In any sense of the word. And I don't give a fuck about your 'experiences' of 'depression' in the same way I don't give a fuck about your 'experiences' about any 'ghosts' you have seen.

And a curious side effect of such an attitude is that it is literally impossible for me to ever be depressed. In the same way that it is impossible to be hypnotised unless you are already familar with the concept of hypnosis to begin with.

But that is a topic for another discussion.

You have to explain this in more detail. Depression can be caused by an imbalance in the brain chemistry such as a plunge in normal oxytocin levels. I think it's a real phenomenon and if someone were to screw with your brain chemistry, they would alter your mood whether you liked it or not.

Post: #32

All life is one big hallucination. You are the creator. The power of your mind is greater than you think. You can trick yourself into believing a lot. Mind body mastery is a mother fucker. Sometimes one should focus on unlearning rather than learning. Shit 90% of dudes on here that's what game was. Unlearning everything you thought would get you girls but wasn't.

Post: #33

You wll be amazed at how much false information has being spread about by the drug companies. These two lengthy articles provide the best overview I have seen:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...tion=false

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...sychiatry/

Post: #34

(04-04-2013 10:32 PM)cardguy Wrote:  You wll be amazed at how much false information has being spread about by the drug companies. These two lengthy articles provide the best overview I have seen:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...tion=false

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives...sychiatry/

I never believed any of that shit. Just like people say they eat healthy but are still fat because of a thyroid condition. It's all bullshit.

No one wants to take responsibility so they blame it on some condition. It's all excuses and excuses are for losers. Man the fuck up. Eat some grapes and drink some olive oil. True brain chemistry relies on glucose and fat.

Post: #35

Lucid dreaming takes a lot of work, if you're having these intense long & vivid dreams you're going to have to remember them. So the whole thing begins with you starting a "dream diary" till eventually you are writing three or four pages every morning in great detail. Throughout this you'll become so in tune with your dreams that eventually you'll realise you are dreaming and be able to take control of them.

Other thing you can do is take lots of Vitamin B6 before you go to sleep and you might have lucid dreams, at the very least your dreams will be extremely vivid

Post: #36

The schizophrenia thing is weird.

My best friend's brother has it. Now - one time he got drunk, acted crazy and ended up getting sectioned.

And yet - I can get drunk (and do much crazier shit than my friend's brother does) and nobody bats an eyelid. Yet they would be panicking if some asshole doctor had labelled me as being schizophrenic. Alot of modern medicine is one step away from voodoo with it's towering stack of false beliefs, and incorrect assumptions.

It is dangerous getting any type of label. Since people (including - often - yourself) will start explaining your behaviour in accordance with the label.

"We label a thing. And then the thing becomes the label..."

I think the following link is a useful alternative take on schizophrenia: http://www.antipsychiatry.org/schizoph.htm

And don't forget the old quote. "If you speak to God - it is called praying. But if God speaks to you - it is called schizophrenia."

Post: #37

(04-04-2013 10:53 PM)Citlalli Wrote:  Lucid dreaming takes a lot of work, if you're having these intense long & vivid dreams you're going to have to remember them. So the whole thing begins with you starting a "dream diary" till eventually you are writing three or four pages every morning in great detail. Throughout this you'll become so in tune with your dreams that eventually you'll realise you are dreaming and be able to take control of them. I experimented as a teenager, classic thing to do when you think your life sucks to try and escape into a dreamworld, but i never got very far. I remember one time i realised i was dreaming and i thought great im finally in a lucid dream, suddenly a girl i knew materialised in front of me, everything felt and looked like real life, i got super excited thinking im going to have sex with her but then as i moved towards her everything just dissipated away because of my eagerness and i woke up.

Other thing you can do is take lots of Vitamin B6 before you go to sleep and you might have lucid dreams, at the very least your dreams will be extremely vivid

That's why zma gives me insane dreams.

Post: #38

How common is lucid dreaming? I have what could be considered lucid dreams very frequently. I'm aware its a dream I can sense everything and I make decisions in my dream.

Hell last night I had one, don't remember much but I do remember it spanned an entire week. (Ie felt like I was dreaming for a whole week I went to sleep in the dream woke up etc.) I lived with this girl and when we'd bang it felt 100% real. It was like I was in another life.

Post: #39

I am surprised that lucid dreaming is rare. I have it about 30% of the time. I absolutely love it. Sometimes I have sex in those dreams,sometimes I act like a super hero..What seems to trigger those dreams is being extremely tired,cold room..or hot room but not comfortable, day napping.
I don't know if this has to do with anything, but I remember most of my dreams 24 hours after.

Post: #40

Not exactly related to lucid dreaming, but the story I'm about to quote absolutely blew my mind the first time I read it. Definitely worth a read.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/commen...to/c3g4ot3

Quote:throw away account cause this is really personal.
My last semester at a certain college I was assulted by a football player for walking where he was trying to drive (note he was 325lbs I was 120lbs), while unconscious on the ground I lived a different life.
I met a wonderful young lady, she made my heart skip and my face red, I pursued her for months and dispatched a few jerk boyfriends before I finally won her over, after two years we got married and almost immediately she bore me a daughter.

I had a great job and my wife didn't have to work outside of the house, when my daughter was two she [my wife] bore me a son. My son was the joy of my life, I would walk into his room every morning before I left for work and doted on him and my daughter.

One day while sitting on the couch I noticed that the perspective of the lamp was odd, like inverted. It was still in 3D but... just.. wrong. (It was a square lamp base, red with gold trim on 4 legs and a white square shade). I was transfixed, I couldn't look away from it. I stayed up all night staring at it, the next morning I didn't go to work, something was just not right about that lamp.

I stopped eating, I left the couch only to use the bathroom at first, soon I stopped that too as I wasn't eating or drinking. I stared at the fucking lamp for 3 days before my wife got really worried, she had someone come and try to talk to me, by this time my cognizance was breaking up and my wife was freaking out. She took the kids to her mother's house just before I had my epiphany.... the lamp is not real.... the house is not real, my wife, my kids... none of that is real... the last 10 years of my life are not fucking real!

The lamp started to grow wider and deeper, it was still inverted dimensions, it took up my entire perspective and all I could see was red, I heard voices, screams, all kinds of weird noises and I became aware of pain.... a fucking shit ton of pain... the first words I said were "I'm missing teeth" and opened my eyes. I was laying on my back on the sidewalk surrounded by people that I didn't know, lots were freaking out, I was completely confused.

at some point a cop scooped me up, dragged/walked me across the sidewalk and grass and threw me face down in the back of a cop car, I was still confused.

I was taken to the hospital by the cop (seems he didn't want to wait for the ambulance to arrive) and give CT scans and shit..

I went through about 3 years of horrid depression, I was grieving the loss of my wife and children and dealing with the knowledge that they never existed, I was scared that I was going insane as I would cry myself to sleep hoping I would see her in my dreams. I never have, but sometimes I see my son, usually just a glimpse out of my peripheral vision, he is perpetually 5 years old and I can never hear what he says.

EDIT (24 hours after post): never though anyone would read this, I changed a line so that it no longer seems that my 2 year old daughter bore a child.
I have never seen Inception or the Star Trek episode so many have mentioned (but I will eventually)
I will not do an AMA
I've had many PM's describing similar experiences and 3 posters stating such experiences are impossible, I'd say more research needs to be done on brain functions. Pre-med students, don't assume you know everything.
A few have asked if they can write a book/screen play/stage play/rage comic etcetera, please consider this tale open source and have fun with it

Post: #41

^ That is crazy. Amazing actually.

Post: #42

Yeah that was one crazy read.

I had a dream last night, where I realized certain characteristics of the dream. This has happened before.

I had a goal, to get somewhere I think I was on a trip of some sort, going through some casino strip and there were cops on their way somewhere as they blazed past me on the road at 100 km/hr. Just before that there was a road that I decided not to turn on because it felt like 'oh, I was there another time' Almost as if I was there another dream. I pretty much clue in to this fact during the dream but I don't realize I am dreaming, and I clue in right after I wake up.

I think I need to make a dream journal so I can notice what is in my dreams more often to be able to make these realizations in the dream that will cause lucidity.

Post: #43

I can rarely remember any of my dreams, and have never had a lucid dream.

Post: #44

(04-04-2013 10:13 PM)cardguy Wrote:  And a curious side effect of such an attitude is that it is literally impossible for me to ever be depressed. In the same way that it is impossible to be hypnotised unless you are already familar with the concept of hypnosis to begin with.

But that is a topic for another discussion.

Interesting stuff about hallucinations, do you think that if a diabetic does not believe in diabetes that might protect him too?

Post: #45

I had a couple of lucid dreams of flying in adolescence, it was cool as hell but brief.

Post: #46

(04-04-2013 10:16 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  This is the shit I really want to learn.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision...ta_24a.htm

Scientific remote viewing during meditation. You can travel to other dimensions and chill with other beings. Shit is for real.

Not to derail the thread but

Remote viewing is pretty cool but In order to be able to do that you have to rebuild your pineal gland to it's original form.

You see the pineal gland is an eyeball(proven scientifically), but the one most of us have look like a dried grape because it is never used; just like a muscle if you don't use it it becomes weak as fuck.

In order to do remote viewing and do a whole bunch of other cool stuff, you have to get it back to it's original size literally as big as an eyeball, it takes time just like working out but it's not that hard.

One other thing is that most of adults pineal gland are calcified due to the fluorine in water, toothpaste and all the bad shit we eat on a regular basis, this is what most people pineal gland looks like today:



Many might not believe it but through deep meditation over a long period of time it is possible to travel through space and dimensions but as usual there is a lot of misinformation out there.

Post: #47

(04-04-2013 09:07 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  I have been interested on the topic of lucid dreaming for some time, and was surprised when I did a search here and the most related I found was this: /thread-4521.html

Looking to direct this thread to LUCID dreaming specifically. For those who don't know, a lucid dream is a dream where you become aware you are dreaming. From that point on, you either wake up, or continue within the dream and may even become able to manipulate the dream itself.

I haven't had much experience with it. I've had two instances of lucid dreams that I remember, and they weren't that special. One I woke up right after my realization; the other I was able to fly around a bit, but woke soon after.

Interested in hearing your experiences with lucid dreams.

I've done it twice before. Once in my youth, and a couple years ago.

The interesting thing is that your mind seems to have mechanisms to try to trick you back into "falling for your dreams," or, forgetting that you're in a dream. So the first time it happened, I had an awesome time and I felt like I had a degree of power that let me manipulate variables within my dream, but I started having a conversation with someone I thought of, and ended up falling back into the dream and letting my mind dictate my dream.

My second time was a similar experience, but instead of falling back into dreaming, I woke up from the sheer excitement of the power I had with my lucid dream.

Interesting shit.

Post: #48

(04-04-2013 09:36 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  This is called Sleep Paralysis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

I get this at least once a week. I'm the most frequent sufferer of this condition out of anybody I know. Many people get this a few times in their life, but nobody I know gets it constantly like I do. I hate. It's not as scary as it was when I was a kid as I've gotten used to it, but the scariest thing about it is just not knowing how long it's going to last. If this is anything like what it is to be a coma that is the most terrifying thought I can imagine.

So that's what that is. I have this about once a week including the part about seeing something in my room when I'm in a half sleeping state (like a jacket draped on a chair or a poster) and thinking it is some sort of intruder or something. I've never thought much about it and just thought it was similar to having a bad dream or something. Thanks for the information, I'm going to read more about it.

Post: #49

I gave my sceptical views about depression and schizophrenia earlier in this thread. Well - just saw this.

It seems alot of psychologists are coming out with similar views to mine:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/m...tal-health

Post: #50

Le Prince Perdu, how do you "work out" the pineal gland?