Post: #1

So I come back from the States, and call this girl I'm dating and ask to see her, te part goes like
Me: So when will I see you?
Her: Before the weekend
Me: Aite, Friday's cool
Her: Not Friday, but Thursday
Me:I donno about Thursday, but I might be free tomorrow (Wednesday)
Her: I am busy tomorrow
Me: Really
Her: Yea I got a date
Me: Really
Her: Just joking, gotta go shopping, and dinner with the friends.
Me:Ok
Her: So are we meeting on Thursday?
Me: How come you're so busy over the weekend
Her: My friend from Italy is coming
Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet.
Her: Ok, great

I am thinking about standing her up, what do you think?

Post: #2

(01-24-2013 08:16 AM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  So I come back from the States, and call this girl I'm dating and ask to see her, te part goes like
Me: So when will I see you?
Her: Before the weekend
Me: Aite, Friday's cool
Her: Not Friday, but Thursday
Me:I donno about Thursday, but I might be free tomorrow (Wednesday)
Her: I am busy tomorrow
Me: Really
Her: Yea I got a date
Me: Really
Her: Just joking, gotta go shopping, and dinner with the friends.
Me:Ok
Her: So are we meeting on Thursday?
Me: How come you're so busy over the weekend
Her: My friend from Italy is coming
Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet.
Her: Ok, great

I am thinking about standing her up, what do you think?

Don't ask when will I see you. Sounds needy. You ask to many questions and are not firm with her when you are busy and free. Less dialogue about meeting. In the future you need to take full control and say something like this:

See you Wednesday 7PM at xyz

I don't anticipate you will have the chance to stand her up, she is going to flake on you anyway.

Post: #3

You have a potential lay but you still want to sabotage the opportunity by throwing some "alpha" maneuvers.

Is this why newbies don't get laid?

Quote:Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet.

I don't know, she could almost sense you're just playing aloof games with her to seem unavailable. And you might be just putting too much responsibility on her by expecting her to contact you, unless she likes you a lot.

Post: #4

Why would you stand up a girl your dating? Lol
You were asking to many questions that make you look clingy or desperate in my opinion.

You should've said yeah I can make Thursday, I'm doing something first but after im done I'm free, so you still control the frame.

I'd find out if the Italy person is male or female and I'd judge my actions on that haha, if she's spending the weekend with a guy guaranteed she's taking the D
Female I'd let it slide more, either way fill up your week with more dates, keep us posted

Post: #5

(01-24-2013 09:24 AM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 08:16 AM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  So I come back from the States, and call this girl I'm dating and ask to see her, te part goes like
Me: So when will I see you?
Her: Before the weekend
Me: Aite, Friday's cool
Her: Not Friday, but Thursday
Me:I donno about Thursday, but I might be free tomorrow (Wednesday)
Her: I am busy tomorrow
Me: Really
Her: Yea I got a date
Me: Really
Her: Just joking, gotta go shopping, and dinner with the friends.
Me:Ok
Her: So are we meeting on Thursday?
Me: How come you're so busy over the weekend
Her: My friend from Italy is coming
Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet.
Her: Ok, great

I am thinking about standing her up, what do you think?

Don't ask when will I see you. Sounds needy. You ask to many questions and are not firm with her when you are busy and free. Less dialogue about meeting. In the future you need to take full control and say something like this:

See you Wednesday 7PM at xyz

I don't anticipate you will have the chance to stand her up, she is going to flake on you anyway.

Yea that's how I usually do it. I was being too nice. As for the person from Italy that's coming over, I'm gonna find out if it's a dude or not. I am kinda pissed at this girl for not wanting to meet me during the weekend.

Post: #6

Me: So when will I see you?
^^No. Say lets get beer friday or something of that nature
Her: Before the weekend
Me: Aite, Friday's cool
^^^^^No. just say "which" an that's it
Her: Not Friday, but Thursday
Me:I donno about Thursday, but I might be free tomorrow (Wednesday)
^^^ This is where you are really losing it just make the damn date for thursday and let it pan out.
Her: I am busy tomorrow
Me: Really
^^^^^No.
Her: Yea I got a date
Me: Really
^^^No. write "cool"
Her: Just joking, gotta go shopping, and dinner with the friends.
Me:Ok
Her: So are we meeting on Thursday?
Me: How come you're so busy over the weekend
^^WTF? make the date!!!!
Her: My friend from Italy is coming
Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet.
Her: Ok, great

Post: #7

(01-24-2013 08:16 AM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  I am thinking about standing her up, what do you think?

Me: So when will I see you? < too passive imo, instead "what are you doing tomorrow or X day?" (I personally like tuesdays and thursdays)
Her: Before the weekend
Me: Aite, Friday's cool < friday is bad day for dates. besides it's almost like a weekend
Her: Not Friday, but Thursday
Me:I donno about Thursday, but I might be free tomorrow (Wednesday) < too passive again. from now on it goes downhill fast
Her: I am busy tomorrow
Me: Really < pointless
Her: Yea I got a date
Me: Really < pointless
Her: Just joking, gotta go shopping, and dinner with the friends.
Me:Ok < pointless
Her: So are we meeting on Thursday?
Me: How come you're so busy over the weekend < pointless and sounds like you're butthurt
Her: My friend from Italy is coming
Me: Tell ya what, text me around 6, if I am free we will get togethet. < playing for time
[b]Her: Ok, great


Check PHONE GAME in my sig. Follow plan A B C and have some other girls to hang out with to make it work.

Post: #8

"Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Post: #9

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Yeah why would you want to stand her up?

Post: #10

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Did not have to! She flaked by texting ' I am sorry I can't meet, I'll explain later' I am certain that friend from Italy is a guy. This chick is a waste, to hell with her, I am watching Django now, and it's a lot better than taking a flake out!

Post: #11

(01-24-2013 03:11 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Did not have to! She flaked by texting ' I am sorry I can't meet, I'll explain later' I am certain that friend from Italy is a guy. This chick is a waste, to hell with her, I am watching Django now, and it's a lot better than taking a flake out!

Most of this is your fault. Maybe you can post before you start messaging?

Post: #12

(01-24-2013 03:11 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Did not have to! She flaked by texting ' I am sorry I can't meet, I'll explain later' I am certain that friend from Italy is a guy. This chick is a waste, to hell with her, I am watching Django now, and it's a lot better than taking a flake out!

Do not text.

Call.

Post: #13

(01-24-2013 03:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 03:11 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Did not have to! She flaked by texting ' I am sorry I can't meet, I'll explain later' I am certain that friend from Italy is a guy. This chick is a waste, to hell with her, I am watching Django now, and it's a lot better than taking a flake out!

Most of this is your fault. Maybe you can post before you start messaging?

Alberto does not seem to like learning...

Post: #14

(01-24-2013 03:35 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 03:11 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:48 PM)germanico Wrote:  "Im thinking about standing her up"

Why?

Did not have to! She flaked by texting ' I am sorry I can't meet, I'll explain later' I am certain that friend from Italy is a guy. This chick is a waste, to hell with her, I am watching Django now, and it's a lot better than taking a flake out!

Do not text.

Call.

I never texted, I called.

Post: #15

I am thinking about freezing her out for a month.

Post: #16

Just move...
Don't waste anymore brain power on this girl. Go get new girls in your rotation.

Post: #17

(01-24-2013 06:15 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  I am thinking about freezing her out for a month.

Lol. You already froze yourself out for good with that text exchange. I dont think your "alpha" persona is working too well. She's going to forget about you within a month anyway. It's not worth the effort. Find yourself a new wench.

Post: #18

(01-25-2013 03:55 AM)travolta Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 06:15 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  I am thinking about freezing her out for a month.

She's going to forget about you within a month anyway. It's not worth the effort. Find yourself a new wench.

I think you misspelled " already had a couple Italiano sausages in her"

Post: #19

Enough with all the pissing and moaning, whining and bitching
sit and observe, listen you'll learn if you pay attention
Why tons of gorgeous platinum blondes later, some pipelining,
Worldwide, we're on the roll with our game and still climbing

If you knew around 10-20 girls you could meet today you'd know that flaking is expected just because of not enough time. Most flaking is not your fault.

Post: #20

Time to move on my friend.

Roosh Forum Rule #3:

3. The members of this forum believe in a model of abundance. We consider it a waste of time to get needy with one girl who in all likelihood doesn't hold you in a positive light because of the poor game you already used on her. Once you mess up with a girl, it is almost impossible for her to change her opinion of you, no matter how good you eventually may get. In other words, if you have zero game, we don't want to hear your sob story of some girl who only wants to be friends with you. Game is about banging a lot of new girls, not one girl is 100% sure she doesn't want to bang you.

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Post: #21

You're right XXL! I need to meet more women, and improve my phone game. I am saying this again,I phoned this girl, I did not TEXT her.

Post: #22

Improve your game. There is no such thing as phone game. You do not game chicks over the phone, if she wasnt attracted to you when she gave you the number, she wont be after you call her.

Game her, then get her phone. The phone number is only a way to keep in touch with her so you can arrange the logistics to see her again so you can then keep gaming her. So ask for the number only when you cant keep gaming her on the spot.

You are not in this game to collect a phonebook, you are here to get laid.