Post: #1

Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

Post: #2

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good. There is no comparison. One is a shoe shop with some fabrics at the back, and the other is a straight up tailor shop. They do all their work in-house, so no farming things out to third parties. I wouldn't even think of wearing a suit now in Bkk, but I guess it depends on when you are here. I do see guys at night with suits...look like biz dudes who have come from work. I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

Post: #3

I'm with opening, no need to rock the suit. If you want to look classy, or at least like the coveted "young executive" ("esmud") of Jakarta, dress pants and shirt will do. I guess they leave their jackets in the office or the car, because I have never actually seen them with the jacket and tie.
Then again, Kuta, Bali is full of drunken yobs, so it will really take very little effort to convey relative put-togetherness.
And yeah, 85 in the shade in a suit is another issue.

Post: #4

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good.

I've posted about this before but not sure where.

There's a tailor in Bangkok that the Bush family, secret service members, and other American elite have been going to for years. Rajawongse Clothier.

I've contacted them before and if I remember correctly they're still locally-priced, even with their fame. If I were to go tailor-shopping in BKK, this would be my first stop.

Here's an article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...ilor_x.htm

Other than that, I'd be real hesitant about paying for anything there without doing your proper research, unless you're already well-educated about what makes for a good suit. Do some research in the expat forums for recommendations. Make a post in one if you need to. Or talk to well-off Thai friends.

Sounds like you're happy with your current tailor but I think Rajawongse Clothier would be well worth a look.

Quote:I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

This is a fallacy and only applies in tourist bars stacked to the door with hookers, freelancers, and the poorest women in the country. Wear flip flops and shorts at a mainstream club, and you will not only be a laughing stock, even if you don't know it, but be looked down on. This is not a proper way to dress in Thailand unless you're at the beach or fraternizing with the lower classes (even with the lower classes you should probably reconsider).

Suit game could go a long way in the nicer clubs, and you will definitely not be the baller in the room. the wealthy there have money like you and I could only dream about.

Anyhow, you can pull hot women without dressing nice, but just accept they will be bottom of the barrel in Thai society. If you want the real goods, you'll need a far different game than most farang bring.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #5

(01-08-2013 02:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good.

I've posted about this before but not sure where.

There's a tailor in Bangkok that the Bush family, secret service members, and other American elite have been going to for years. Rajawongse Clothier.

I've contacted them before and if I remember correctly they're still locally-priced, even with their fame. If I were to go tailor-shopping in BKK, this would be my first stop.

Here's an article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...ilor_x.htm

Other than that, I'd be real hesitant about paying for anything there without doing your proper research, unless you're already well-educated about what makes for a good suit. Do some research in the expat forums for recommendations. Make a post in one if you need to. Or talk to well-off Thai friends.

Sounds like you're happy with your current tailor but I think Rajawongse Clothier would be well worth a look.

Quote:I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

This is a fallacy and only applies in tourist bars stacked to the door with hookers, freelancers, and the poorest women in the country. Wear flip flops and shorts at a mainstream club, and you will not only be a laughing stock, even if you don't know it, but be looked down on. This is not a proper way to dress in Thailand unless you're at the beach or fraternizing with the lower classes (even with the lower classes you should probably reconsider).

Suit game could go a long way in the nicer clubs, and you will definitely not be the baller in the room. the wealthy there have money like you and I could only dream about.

Anyhow, you can pull hot women without dressing nice, but just accept they will be bottom of the barrel in Thai society. If you want the real goods, you'll need a far different game than most farang bring.

Can you even get in the top clubs in Thailand in Flip flops and shorts?

Post: #6

(01-08-2013 04:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 02:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good.

I've posted about this before but not sure where.

There's a tailor in Bangkok that the Bush family, secret service members, and other American elite have been going to for years. Rajawongse Clothier.

I've contacted them before and if I remember correctly they're still locally-priced, even with their fame. If I were to go tailor-shopping in BKK, this would be my first stop.

Here's an article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...ilor_x.htm

Other than that, I'd be real hesitant about paying for anything there without doing your proper research, unless you're already well-educated about what makes for a good suit. Do some research in the expat forums for recommendations. Make a post in one if you need to. Or talk to well-off Thai friends.

Sounds like you're happy with your current tailor but I think Rajawongse Clothier would be well worth a look.

Quote:I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

This is a fallacy and only applies in tourist bars stacked to the door with hookers, freelancers, and the poorest women in the country. Wear flip flops and shorts at a mainstream club, and you will not only be a laughing stock, even if you don't know it, but be looked down on. This is not a proper way to dress in Thailand unless you're at the beach or fraternizing with the lower classes (even with the lower classes you should probably reconsider).

Suit game could go a long way in the nicer clubs, and you will definitely not be the baller in the room. the wealthy there have money like you and I could only dream about.

Anyhow, you can pull hot women without dressing nice, but just accept they will be bottom of the barrel in Thai society. If you want the real goods, you'll need a far different game than most farang bring.

Can you even get in the top clubs in Thailand in Flip flops and shorts?

I doubt it. I know RCA, etc, in Bangkok, will definitely not allow you in like that. Since they're largely a live and let live culture, some nice clubs would let you in, especially outside of BKK, but people would look at you pretty funny. Thai people essentially think that anyone who wears shorts away from a beach is a man-child. It's just not something adults do.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #7

(01-08-2013 04:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 04:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 02:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good.

I've posted about this before but not sure where.

There's a tailor in Bangkok that the Bush family, secret service members, and other American elite have been going to for years. Rajawongse Clothier.

I've contacted them before and if I remember correctly they're still locally-priced, even with their fame. If I were to go tailor-shopping in BKK, this would be my first stop.

Here's an article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...ilor_x.htm

Other than that, I'd be real hesitant about paying for anything there without doing your proper research, unless you're already well-educated about what makes for a good suit. Do some research in the expat forums for recommendations. Make a post in one if you need to. Or talk to well-off Thai friends.

Sounds like you're happy with your current tailor but I think Rajawongse Clothier would be well worth a look.

Quote:I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

This is a fallacy and only applies in tourist bars stacked to the door with hookers, freelancers, and the poorest women in the country. Wear flip flops and shorts at a mainstream club, and you will not only be a laughing stock, even if you don't know it, but be looked down on. This is not a proper way to dress in Thailand unless you're at the beach or fraternizing with the lower classes (even with the lower classes you should probably reconsider).

Suit game could go a long way in the nicer clubs, and you will definitely not be the baller in the room. the wealthy there have money like you and I could only dream about.

Anyhow, you can pull hot women without dressing nice, but just accept they will be bottom of the barrel in Thai society. If you want the real goods, you'll need a far different game than most farang bring.

Can you even get in the top clubs in Thailand in Flip flops and shorts?

I doubt it. I know RCA, etc, in Bangkok, will definitely not allow you in like that. Since they're largely a live and let live culture, some nice clubs would let you in, especially outside of BKK, but people would look at you pretty funny. Thai people essentially think that anyone who wears shorts away from a beach is a man-child. It's just not something adults do.

Been here 2 months. Been to RCA. If you think ebody comes dressed pimp, you're in for a shocker. I've also been to just about every club imaginable. Of course, people will dress up a bit at places, but it's definitely casual. Not flip flops casual, but I've seen it all. And I've seen plenty of guys wearing shorts and flip flops with 10s. It's called...p4p. I've done the suit game as well, at places like the Erawan. Plenty of guys come in suits. You will find most girls there are looking for cash. It's a fucking game. It is what it is. I've also done suit game in nicer hoods like Thong Lor. This is the "hi-so" area of Bkk. Yes, you may want to dress up more in these hoods. But these are Thais with money, and they probably aren't too impressed. It can't hurt. But you'll need some social circle proof to break into these circles here. No Thai girl in her right mind with money and a reputation is going to be seen in this hood with some farang. I don't care if you have the looks of Brad Pitt and are as funny as Chris Rock. Why would she? Plenty of Thai guys with cash to take her out, without worrying what her parents or friends will say. Just take a look at the Ferraris, B-mers, ...I even saw a fucking Aston Martin...parked out in front of Bottoms Up in Thong Lor! Honestly, in Thong Lor is the hood where I've seen the biggest concentration of dorky Asian guys with super hot Thai hi-so girls.

I would say don't sweat it too much. Don't look like a slob, but don't go overboard. There is a lot more that counts here in Bkk. Money for girls looking for p4p action, or a little sponsorship, and social circle proof for richer hoods. Doesn't hurt to be white either. They worship white skin here!

Post: #8

(01-08-2013 05:38 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 04:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 04:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 02:53 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good.

I've posted about this before but not sure where.

There's a tailor in Bangkok that the Bush family, secret service members, and other American elite have been going to for years. Rajawongse Clothier.

I've contacted them before and if I remember correctly they're still locally-priced, even with their fame. If I were to go tailor-shopping in BKK, this would be my first stop.

Here's an article: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/worl...ilor_x.htm

Other than that, I'd be real hesitant about paying for anything there without doing your proper research, unless you're already well-educated about what makes for a good suit. Do some research in the expat forums for recommendations. Make a post in one if you need to. Or talk to well-off Thai friends.

Sounds like you're happy with your current tailor but I think Rajawongse Clothier would be well worth a look.

Quote:I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

This is a fallacy and only applies in tourist bars stacked to the door with hookers, freelancers, and the poorest women in the country. Wear flip flops and shorts at a mainstream club, and you will not only be a laughing stock, even if you don't know it, but be looked down on. This is not a proper way to dress in Thailand unless you're at the beach or fraternizing with the lower classes (even with the lower classes you should probably reconsider).

Suit game could go a long way in the nicer clubs, and you will definitely not be the baller in the room. the wealthy there have money like you and I could only dream about.

Anyhow, you can pull hot women without dressing nice, but just accept they will be bottom of the barrel in Thai society. If you want the real goods, you'll need a far different game than most farang bring.

Can you even get in the top clubs in Thailand in Flip flops and shorts?

I doubt it. I know RCA, etc, in Bangkok, will definitely not allow you in like that. Since they're largely a live and let live culture, some nice clubs would let you in, especially outside of BKK, but people would look at you pretty funny. Thai people essentially think that anyone who wears shorts away from a beach is a man-child. It's just not something adults do.

Been here 2 months. Been to RCA. If you think ebody comes dressed pimp, you're in for a shocker. I've also been to just about every club imaginable. Of course, people will dress up a bit at places, but it's definitely casual. Not flip flops casual, but I've seen it all. And I've seen plenty of guys wearing shorts and flip flops with 10s. It's called...p4p. I've done the suit game as well, at places like the Erawan. Plenty of guys come in suits. You will find most girls there are looking for cash. It's a fucking game. It is what it is. I've also done suit game in nicer hoods like Thong Lor. This is the "hi-so" area of Bkk. Yes, you may want to dress up more in these hoods. But these are Thais with money, and they probably aren't too impressed. It can't hurt. But you'll need some social circle proof to break into these circles here. No Thai girl in her right mind with money and a reputation is going to be seen in this hood with some farang. I don't care if you have the looks of Brad Pitt and are as funny as Chris Rock. Why would she? Plenty of Thai guys with cash to take her out, without worrying what her parents or friends will say. Just take a look at the Ferraris, B-mers, ...I even saw a fucking Aston Martin...parked out in front of Bottoms Up in Thong Lor! Honestly, in Thong Lor is the hood where I've seen the biggest concentration of dorky Asian guys with super hot Thai hi-so girls.

I would say don't sweat it too much. Don't look like a slob, but don't go overboard. There is a lot more that counts here in Bkk. Money for girls looking for p4p action, or a little sponsorship, and social circle proof for richer hoods. Doesn't hurt to be white either. They worship white skin here!

You're only contradicting yourself - I didn't say it was about money - you did. I'm just saying it would be a good approach if you want to stand apart from the typical farang who, like you said, relies on p4p and white status, which only really works with a certain sector of the population.

I haven't been to RCA in quite some time, but last time I went those who came unprepared had to go across the street to exchange your flip flops for rental shoes if you even wanted to get in the door.

I'm not going to argue all your points on Thailand as I've done it extensively in this forum time and time again. To be honest, it's getting a bit tiring. I lived there nearly five years and was pretty deep with the locals, so I understand the dynamics and ins and outs of the different subcultures there more than a lot of people do.

All I'm saying is completely shooting down suit game and saying all you need are flip flops and sandals is extremely shortsighted and indicative of the attitude had by someone who has been there for a 2-month stay. Yes, you can get pussy with that approach, but you're giving yourself extreme limitations and making yourself look far worse than you can imagine.

If having those limitations is cool with you, by all means go big. I'm not judging here. Just want to make it clear for guys who haven't been there yet and actually want to get in with the quality locals, which won't even be possible without solid game. You don't NEED a suit, by any means, but do you anywhere? It's not about needing one...

And to me, a 10 that is a blatant golddigger and/or a prostitute is far from being an actual 10. Looks aren't everything...

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #9

If you're into suits, then most of the south east asian tailors are a bust. HK is where you find Savile Row trained Chinese Tailors that have been making suits since the Opium Wars. WW Chan, Gordon Yao, and Lee Baron. You're getting fully canvassed suits, proper fit, legit holland and sherry/namebrand fabric, and years of experience.

Now if you just want a cheap custom suit, by all means. It wiil look like it fits better than your avg Men's Wearhouse/Jos A. Banks. But they will cut corners on the construction and hidden details of the suit, so that it doesn't drape properly or slowly conform to your body as you wear it. I think those knockabout customs are ideal for night game, cause for ppl that are impressed by suits, but don't know much about them will think it looks great.

The other thing is that to me, even 7 oz wool is hot as hell. Linen in theory is cooler, but linen, imo, implies a breeze.

WIA. Reminds me that I need a new suit.

Post: #10

Know, even choose your fabrics before you go -- look in high end stores, understand the feel of the fabrics that you want. The best fabrics are available globally. Although I'm partial to Loro Piana fabrics (Zegna's an alternative, costlier but worth it for some unique stuff) for suits and overcoats, there are others that will give you almost the same effect for a somewhat lower price. You should do your homework first. It's not just the distant profile and fit that makes a suit right, it's really a tactile thing - any girl into suited men will put a hand on your chest and know instantly the value of the fabric. She may be fondling your lapels but, under it all, she's really evaluating the quality of the stitching ... and of your taste.

In a bespoke tailor's shop, there will be scads of merchandise awaiting customer fittings and pickup. Ask to see items that he's made recently, with these same high-end fabrics. All tailors will have swatch books from many manufacturers, and can obtain most any fabric overnight, but a swatch book is not an indication that any customer who invests in fabrics at that level actually trusts that tailor's work. If he's getting the work, there will be mounds of work in process, because it takes multiple fittings, over days, after initial measurements, to get a suit right, and work ceases on that suit and it just hangs in the shop until the customer comes in for the intermediate fitting session. (Every jacket needs to be individually fitted, due to the variations of hand sewing.)

Hong Kong is the place. Put it in your itinerary, coming and going, on a schedule that allows for the fitting sessions. Searches will bring up lots of forum discussions on the best tailors; read the posts only from serious repeat customers.

Post: #11

Ok, looks like I'm not going to get great quality but hopefully at least something decent until I have a chance to hit up HK.

So then what's the best way to dress for the following situations:

1) Bar/club full of Aussie meatheads in Kuta, Bali
2) Upscale bar in Seminyak, Bali
3) Mega Club in Jakarta
4) Beach bars/clubs in Boracay

I'm South Asian origin so I don't have the automatic god status that white guys have, hence trying to up the dress game so I'm not purely competing on looks alone with white dudes.

Post: #12

(01-08-2013 12:41 PM)opening23 Wrote:  

(01-08-2013 11:58 AM)ao85 Wrote:  Planning a trip to Indonesia and Philippines soon. Two Questions:

1) Buying a custom suit in Bali - is it worth it? It will be 5x cheaper than the US, but how will I know the quality is decent? Is there any easy way to tell whether a tailor knows what he's doing?

2) Wearing a suit in SE Asia - given the hot weather, is it worth it? Will I just be seen as a walking ATM for the touts? Figured it would be a way to distinguish myself from the sex tourists, as well as the meatheads and backpackers.

Thoughts?

I am in Bkk now. If you come here. Last year, I used Prince Tailors. Sucked. Low quality. This year, I'm using Majestic Tailors at Nana. Very very good. There is no comparison. One is a shoe shop with some fabrics at the back, and the other is a straight up tailor shop. They do all their work in-house, so no farming things out to third parties. I wouldn't even think of wearing a suit now in Bkk, but I guess it depends on when you are here. I do see guys at night with suits...look like biz dudes who have come from work. I don't think it will influence things one way or the other. What matters here in Bkk...and I assume where you are going as well...ain't your suit. It's your bankroll. You could be wearing flip flops and shorts. I've seen lots of guys in terrible clothing with hot girls. It's called...YOU GOT THE CASH...YOU GET THE GASH. Have fun!

I'll be in BKK in December. Checked out Majestic Tailors web site. It looks like a suit costs about $600. Is it really worth the price? I thought custom made suits would be much cheaper in Thailand.

Post: #13

I got a great 3 piece suit made in Hoi An, Vietnam custom fitted with a shirt for a really cheap price in 2010. Can't remember how much it was but I want to say it was less that $100.

Post: #14

In in Thailand and I've worn flip flops with nice trousers and a shirt and never had a problem getting in anywhere in BKK or Chiang Mai. In Phuket or Pattaya the dress code is a joke, you could wear anything and get in.

Post: #15

(11-10-2013 02:19 AM)kazushu Wrote:  In in Thailand and I've worn flip flops with nice trousers and a shirt and never had a problem getting in anywhere in BKK or Chiang Mai. In Phuket or Pattaya the dress code is a joke, you could wear anything and get in.

Which clubs did you go to? Dress code in BKK is lax, but I think you'll have trouble getting into any clubs that aren't filled with hookers wearing them. I can't say for sure, because I've never even thought about trying to go to anywhere decent in flip flops. I don't even like to wear the things down to the corner store anymore.

About the suits, $100 isn't even enough money to buy the fabric for a decent suit, let alone have the whole thing tailored. $600 for a custom suit is a great deal, assuming the tailor is competent. At $600, I wouldn't expect amazing work. I went to a "reputable" place here in BKK, used Reda fabric, and it was gonna be 1k. I walked away on the 50% deposit because the arm holes were giant, after I told the bitch half a dozen times I wanted high arm holes. I knew there was no way they were capable of tailoring a suit I'd be happy with, so I cut my losses.

Post: #16

Wearing flip-flops to a club in Bangkok... Who are you guys? Have a little self respect.

I have been lured into the cheap custom suit thing in Hoi An, Bali and Bangkok. They have all been shit. Don't fall for it.

Post: #17

(11-10-2013 03:53 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(11-10-2013 02:19 AM)kazushu Wrote:  In in Thailand and I've worn flip flops with nice trousers and a shirt and never had a problem getting in anywhere in BKK or Chiang Mai. In Phuket or Pattaya the dress code is a joke, you could wear anything and get in.

Which clubs did you go to? Dress code in BKK is lax, but I think you'll have trouble getting into any clubs that aren't filled with hookers wearing them. I can't say for sure, because I've never even thought about trying to go to anywhere decent in flip flops. I don't even like to wear the things down to the corner store anymore.

In BKK some I've been to were Bed Supper Club though haven't been to the new location, also Concept CM2, Q Bar, Levels, Narz, others too but these are off the ones I remember. In Chiang Mai, Warm up and Infinity or Monkey Club.

Yeah I know I need to work on my footwear consciousness. It's just hard to wrap my head around caring about it when I'm in Thailand for some reason. Back home in Australia the land of flip flops I'd never wear them out...

Anyway, most of my game here in Thailand is through my social group and most know that the flip flop thing is personal choice since they know that I have the financial options to easily dress better. Funnily enough I've gotten a few lays through conversations that have started off with why I'm wearing flip flops.

Post: #18

You just listed all the bars that a guy who never made it off the tourist trail in BKK would have gone too.

Try going in flip-flops to Funky Villa, Demo, Muse, or Nunglen and see how well that goes for you.

Post: #19

(11-10-2013 06:25 AM)DirectDanger Wrote:  You just listed all the bars that a guy who never made it off the tourist trail in BKK would have gone too.

Try going in flip-flops to Funky Villa, Demo, Muse, or Nunglen and see how well that goes for you.

Thanks for the tips I've only been to Funky Villa and Nuglen out of those. I'll be getting myself some shoes soon though so no worries.

Post: #20

Rajawongse is my family tailor. Jesse and Victor are real Sikh dudes - good service and high quality

Post: #21

Now, the best is the one in Bangkok, you call them they will send a car to pick you up at your hotel, free of charge, they will also bring you back to your hotel or another location, your will is their command, when you arrive they will be waiting for you at the dor inside, they'll open the door for you, and you will have your own Assistant who will provide you with free drinks (beer, tea, water,etc), he will browse catalogues with you, show you fabrics with the best class and have a nice chat in fair English with you.

Post: #22

(11-11-2013 11:39 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  Rajawongse is my family tailor. Jesse and Victor are real Sikh dudes - good service and high quality

I had a shirt made there and it was shit. They are a factory, churning out shirts and suits like crazy. If you want a standard, old school fitting shirt then maybe they are fine, but the shirt I got was no good. I'd imagine their suits are the same.

If you want advice on good tailors, go to styleforum. Truth is, most of us are amateurs in the style game, especially when it comes to custom clothes. Someone may say one tailor is great, but that person likely doesn't really know what they are talking about.

I've used Rajawongse, Moon River and Pinkys for shirts, not suits. I don't recommend any, but Pinkys is the best of the three, which isn't saying much.