Post: #1

me: american, hispanic, late 30s, photographer. lived in nyc ten years, now am living in spain.

city overview: paris is a beautiful city with tons of sexy, stylish girls. i stayed one week in the marais district. i am an artist and the art in the city cannot be beat. not just the museums but the importance given to art, fashion, style, film, design, photography, literature, culture overall. you can feel it.

girls: tons of thin, pretty, stylish girls all over the marais district.

sight seeing: everyone knows the main sights.

lodging: i used airbnb to find a nice room in an apartment in the marais. not cheap, kinda expensive, but nice.

day game spots: center pompidou, the street in general.

nightlife spots: la perle is a great artistic bar, cafe charlot is a great cafe and nightspot, and experimental cocktail club is a cool "hip" bar with a door policy.

ease of approaching: for me, it became easy to approach, i approached stylish girls and talked to them in spanish and asked to take their picture. it started working the more i did it. tons of fun. i also dressed up nicely, a blazer, dress shoes, dark jeans, a stylish look overall.

prices and other stuff: taxis are hard to get and are expensive, the cool places i went to were pretty damn expensive, maybe even more than nyc, i have a european cell phone already so didn't have that issue.

logistics: paris is very walkable, i walked almost everywhere, only took a few taxis. i stayed mostly in the marais. pretty sure the subway system is good though.

overall pros: the sexy, stylish girls, the cool people. i fucking love this city. i was here four years ago, after art school, and it blew me away. anyone who loves art, beauty, style, design, high culture, needs to come here. and of course, i love this city because the girls are amazing. i am not an art historian after all. i like girls with style. i like girls who are cultured and interesting. to me, that's very sexy. i hate tacky girls, even if they are good looking. i mean, of course, i will overlook the tackiness if i need to, but it turns me off. if i meet a girl with a pretty face but tacky styling (say a russian girl), one will compete against the other, and they will almost cancel each other out. in paris, so many girls are thin, elegant, feminine, wearing sexy shoes, great stylish clothing that makes them look even better, it reminds me of what coco chanel said, "there are no ugly women, just lazy ones". of course this is not true but there is some truth to it. the girls here put a lot of effort into looking good and looking stylish -- not trashy or tacky -- and i love it. also, the style here is feminine elegant, not retro vintage weird like in williamsburg. girls here love being girls, and love to look feminine.

overall cons: expensive city, somewhat anti american. (1) if you are not a stylish man, or an artistic man, you might not stand out, at least in the places i am talking about, cause the men here look awesome too. if you just want attractive girls without style, i am sure EE is much better. i want to check out moscow to compare and contrast to paris. (2) also, it helps me that i speak spanish, and that i am hispanic. i approach people in spanish, and then switch to english if they don't speak spanish, which is almost always the case. the parisians don't like being in paris and having to speak english to an american, it pisses them off. so any "third" language helps. most parisians love meeting people from other countries -- and will happily speak in english to them, since they are on "equal footing" -- and of course they also admire/respect nyc, so i played up both being from new york and "being" from peru. even though really my parents are from peru, i am very american.

personal experience: amount of bangs/make outs and how many days you stayed. i stayed seven nights and got no action at all, fuck. i came close but ultimately i failed. i had an amazing time though. met tons of cool people, had a lot of fun, took a lot of great pictures, and am leaving inspired and loving life. self amusement, baby.

final thoughts: would you return and/or advice others to go here and for how long. i think it's important to "segment" and talk in data sheets about what type of man would do well in each city. i know roosh does that for race/ethnicity, for example how blond men do better in latin america, and dark spanish guys do better in northern europe, etc., but i think data sheets should also be segmented by lifestyle. what kind of lifestyles are there? the ones that come to mind are "business" lifestyle (finance guys, lawyers, computer or corporate types), "art" lifestyle (art, film, design, writers, etc), and maybe "frat" types. i can't think of anything else of the top of my head. i am sure there is a frat scene in paris, but i didn't look for it, and maybe it is small, or maybe it doesn't even exist. i think if you are a finance guy with money, you will do fine, i am sure parisian girls like money like all girls do. but my guess is that the art guys do the best. using my iphone, i showed girls on the street my photography, and pretty much all of them were interested and receptive. they thought it was cool that i was a photographer. i got the feeling that art was something admired and revered in paris, something to be encouraged and respected. i love that. that is why i want to move here.

Post: #2

also, i forgot to add, yeah, most of the girls i talked to do not speak very good english. maybe because i talked to the more stylish girls, and they are less interested in business (english) and more in art (french), who knows, just a theory.

and i didn't take this picture, the sartorialist did, but a lot of girls in paris look like this: thin, stylish, pretty, sexy.
http://www.thesartorialist.com/photos/on...ils-paris/

Post: #3

Nice data sheet.

Seems like knowing French would greatly increase the probability of a bang.

Post: #4

I'm in Paris right now... Yeeeees! The City of Lights. You got to hand it to the French, they know what style is. Great food, great art, great architecture, fashion, lifestyle.

The French language though... it's starting to irritate me. I checked on the internet, and it says about 30%
of the population can speak English. But they just don't want to.

Post: #5

Yeah, speaking French with a foreign accent would increase your chances, provided you are conversational enough to hold a decent conservation.

Interesting datasheet, rivelino. Cool to read you had a great time. Just to tell you though, le Marais is known as being a gay district

But playing the artist angle is indeed a tried and proven strategy in Paris.

I remember one of the scene of a movie called "Confesssions d'un dragueur" where a player explains how he pretends to be an avant-garde theater director from some Eastern european country haha. This movie is a gem for day game in Paris. It's probably the single best French movie on pick up ever produced. I mearn, it almost feels like it has been written by some of the guys on this board. You can watch it here:

http://rutube.ru/video/29edb7a2a75450431...2f935ceb1/
http://rutube.ru/video/029c198cf6521fed9...087770eeb/

Post: #6

What percent of girls are that artsy type? How hard are they on guys if youre syruggling to speak French but at least attempting?

Post: #7

hey houston, i really like this caligula quote, great find.

"If chasing pussy feels like you're constantly trying to fill a void you're doing it wrong. Spend time focusing on other aspects of your life before going back on the prowl. The playboy lifestyle shouldn't be like that."

Post: #8

@texas prophet

"Seems like knowing French would greatly increase the probability of a bang."

YES. i didn't realize that for a few days. i figured that paris would have tons of visitors or tourists or students or whatever, it is the #1 tourist destination in the world i am pretty sure, but pretty much every girl that caught my eye that i talked to was either parisian or spoke french much more than english.

for example, i talked to a very pretty polish girl who was 21 or 22 and had moved to paris to study art history, and had lived in paris for several years, and her english was okay but not great, she was struggling to talk to me, and of course i can't confirm it, but i strongly suspect that her french was much better than her mediocre english. meaning, girls from other parts of europe who want to move to paris, focus their time and energy on learning french and not english. they want to move to paris, after all, not new york.

so yeah, i gotta learn french asap. at least to get the type of girls i want to get.

Post: #9

@tresor

"a player explains how he pretends to be an avant-garde theater director from some Eastern european country haha." that sounds hilarious, gonna check it out.

Post: #10

@houston

"What percent of girls are that artsy type? How hard are they on guys if youre syruggling to speak French but at least attempting?"

i saw so many stylish girls, they were everywhere. i am sure there are different types of scenes, though. but overall, i was surprised by how much of a language barrier there was. it was frustrating.

Post: #11

Try this line:

"Salut! Ca va? Avez-vous lu «Journée Bang» par Roosh
?"

Post: #12

(10-28-2012 07:16 AM)zarzuelazen Wrote:  The French language though... it's starting to irritate me. I checked on the internet, and it says about 30%
of the population can speak English. But they just don't want to.

I don't know, I get irritated in America when people don't speak English to me, so I can understand their mentality. I speak a bit of French but my accent is terrible. When I told people that I was American, they immediately switched to English.

Post: #13

(11-01-2012 07:22 PM)Moose11 Wrote:  I don't know, I get irritated in America when people don't speak English to me, so I can understand their mentality. I speak a bit of French but my accent is terrible. When I told people that I was American, they immediately switched to English.

Fair point. Now I just say 'anglais' and the English speakers switch over.

Some French women are extremely hot I must say. Even on the metro, I see fashionable boots, scarfs and some extremely attractive 8s and 9s.

I was at 'le salon du chocolat' yesterday, a whole bunch of extremely hot women were wandering the pavilions there, I tell you. I asked one of the hotties working a stall 'parlez-vous anglais?' ('Do You Speak English') and she replied with an incredibly sexy accent ('A little bit') that just drove me crazy.

My brief report on le salon du chocolat:
http://zarzuelazen.com/wordpress/?p=166

Post: #14

I love Paris I went there with a Buddy in July fore the first time and I was impresed with this City.

To me it was like a kind of relaxed attitude going on there and since my Female cousin from London showed us the spot's where the locals hangout I had a great time beeing there.

I mostly hang out with Cousines female friends and there are alot of Students from, Canada, Germany, and Uk who Live there.

I approached a few Parisian Girls aswell and they where quite cool I didn't do Daygame but approached in bars which have bands playing there and turns into a club kind of a mixture between Bars and Club's so You cane dance ore just go to chill and listen to the changing Bands delivering Live Music.

I approached a few Parisian Girls, one partciulary Hot African Parisian Girl and one from Girl from the ukraine which whent quite well but unfurtnatley I was not allone I got kind of cockbloked by my cousins female friends next time I will go there sollo.

What I noticed when it comes to French ist that it helps if you start in French even if you just know a few Words it doesn't matter just Start speaking the Words you know and after that you can transition To Englisch ore maybe German if you find a Girl that speaks that.

That why the people know that you actualy try to make an effort and speak there Language and you're not just some stupid gringo who doesn't give a Fuck about the Culture and just want's to have a Picture with the Eifel Touer on it.

Another thing I noticed beeing there is that the Restaurants have excelent Service nothing compared to you're Average German Restaurant if you go to the right places like where the Locals go you will find that you get treated very Well without having to go to the high end places and spending a few 100 Euros fore Food.

To me that was verry impressive since in Germany you notice that if you don't go to the best restaurants the staff sometimes not always doesent give a fuck about you're needs ase a Customer which makes the experience of eating outing out less fun.

So if you want to go to Paris, don't just check out there Girls Check out there food and Culture aswell.

Hope that add's Value

SelfPaid

PS: I would love to Post some Pics about the Girls, but unfurtnatly I was to bussy having fun and haven't thought about it so all I have is a few boring sightseeing Pictures but I cane confirm that there are alot of Bautiful Slim Girls Walking arround I actualy didn't realy see fatt People that Much and the cool thing is since I wennt in the holliday season there was a Surplus of Girls in the Places I went to during the night.

So no real competition and Girls beeing bored waiting to be approached by cool black german cat I need to get back there next Summer fore a few months instead of a few day's I love that City.

I forget to add: If you go there make sure you have a female friend or even better know another payer that lives there and cane show you where the locals hang out...this is a hudge advantage and the number 1 reason i had a good time there.

Post: #15

(10-28-2012 03:11 AM)rivelino Wrote:  girls: tons of thin, pretty, stylish girls all over the marais district.

Nice datasheet. Did you run into any Caribbean/African women who spoke French? If so, how were their attitudes?

Post: #16

@rougenoir

i met a black parisian girl outside the pompidou. she was there with her friend from spain. i met both of them because i took their picture for my "street style" blog. both were very friendly and let me take their picture, but then they emailed me that they were "worried" about the pictures and how they were going to be used. that was my only experience with a black parisian girl.

Post: #17

I hate asking this but did you feel there was any sort of "fever" for tan guys from the Paris girls?

Post: #18

(11-04-2012 05:36 AM)houston Wrote:  I hate asking this but did you feel there was any sort of "fever" for tan guys from the Paris girls?

Yes definetly if you Look and Dress like them. I am dark skined and didn't have a Problem with Girls even outside of the Socia of Social Circle.

Post: #19

I had a Gmanifesto momemt in Paris.

Rain started tumbling down, I ducked into a doorway. Attractive Parisian girl also ducked into same doorway and pulled out a cigarette. I opened by asking what the French word for 'rain' is. (It's 'pluie' by the way). Nothing happened beyond a conversation, but I was certainly thinking of Gmanifesto and chuckling to myself.

Post: #20

@houston

i don't remember if i wrote this here or to a friend, but all "ethnic" men living in the states should know that european girls are MUCH more open to dating other races than american girls are. i am not a regular on this forum so i don't know if this has been covered but i can only assume it has, cause imo this is a huge plus.

i am american, mixed hispanic/japanese, and i know very well how most white american chicks want that all american man, ideally blonde and blue eyed, but in general, white. a few american white chicks like black dudes, or latin dudes, or even asian dudes, but that is rare.

in europe, that is not the case at all. european girls are generally much more open minded, and some european girls even prefer the asian look. there is no stigma. i photographed one romanian model who was dating a french/korean man, he was half korean or something, and another model, russian/estonian, who said that she liked the asian look.

these are just random data points of course, but enough people have said it and experienced it so i fully believe it.

Post: #21

(11-06-2012 01:17 PM)rivelino Wrote:  @houston

i don't remember if i wrote this here or to a friend, but all "ethnic" men living in the states should know that european girls are MUCH more open to dating other races than american girls are. i am not a regular on this forum so i don't know if this has been covered but i can only assume it has, cause imo this is a huge plus.

i am american, mixed hispanic/japanese, and i know very well how most white american chicks want that all american man, ideally blonde and blue eyed, but in general, white. a few american white chicks like black dudes, or latin dudes, or even asian dudes, but that is rare.

in europe, that is not the case at all. european girls are generally much more open minded, and some european girls even prefer the asian look. there is no stigma. i photographed one romanian model who was dating a french/korean man, he was half korean or something, and another model, russian/estonian, who said that she liked the asian look.

these are just random data points of course, but enough people have said it and experienced it so i fully believe it.

Agreed Rivelino for white chicks, just stick to Eastern Europe. In countries like the US or Brazil they are more of a headache than fun for a man of color, so why bother unless she falls on your lap.

Post: #22

(11-06-2012 01:17 PM)rivelino Wrote:  @houston

i don't remember if i wrote this here or to a friend, but all "ethnic" men living in the states should know that european girls are MUCH more open to dating other races than american girls are. i am not a regular on this forum so i don't know if this has been covered but i can only assume it has, cause imo this is a huge plus.

i am american, mixed hispanic/japanese, and i know very well how most white american chicks want that all american man, ideally blonde and blue eyed, but in general, white. a few american white chicks like black dudes, or latin dudes, or even asian dudes, but that is rare.

in europe, that is not the case at all. european girls are generally much more open minded, and some european girls even prefer the asian look. there is no stigma. i photographed one romanian model who was dating a french/korean man, he was half korean or something, and another model, russian/estonian, who said that she liked the asian look.

these are just random data points of course, but enough people have said it and experienced it so i fully believe it.

Thanks for the post Rivelino. Yep, I don't even really bother with white girls to much. It's just really fighting an uphill battle unless you're in their little social circle, act extremely white or they have fever for whatever you are.

Post: #23

Paris keeps moving up on my list! Great data sheet.

Post: #24

I didn't get my French flag when I was in Paris for 6 days. But I wish I came across this forum before. I do met a girl near Effy tower . She invited me to her house warming party. But my game was poor as in that set up and small home. I was stifled a bit.but I got a few cards exchanged.

Post: #25

Anyone else been to Paris lately? My search for a desirable european destination this winter has come down to a choice of popular capital cities. Berlin, Prague, Milan and of course Paris. My French is terrible which puts me off somewhat. Could this be one of the more challenging destinations to meet sexy women? Surprisingly for a Londoner, I don't have a French flag yet.