Post: #26

(10-28-2012 04:11 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 06:40 PM)Rosca Wrote:  Too many damn rappers fucking up their talent by letting their hood instincts get in. Theres so many good underground rappers in Philly that could have made it by their lyricism alone. But like Lil Reese, want to escalate shit that pisses them off to another level. Which at the end fucks up their talent that could have probably gotten them out of the hood.

Lesson of the Day:
Be hood all you want. It's good for you and your confidence to go out and do the shit you want in life. But once you have a talent/skill that can get you out, chill out on that violent shit.

Want to hear some undeground Philly rap?



You gotta admit, this guy is nice. Hell, better flow than Lil Reese. But Bricks got 70 years for murdering a few people. But I still play his raps to this day.

You guys know Meek Mill now that he's big. But watch this video of him chewing this kid in a rap battle. And even in the beginning of the video, he stated that he doesn't talk beef with people unless they give him a reason. He wanted to get signed and thats what he went out and got instead of a homicide.

Philly got a whole slew of rappers that have been watching for a while now. What happened to SlaughterRico? That guy's flow was insane! I like Eness too and Hollowman.

What's up with the long beard thing though? I seem to see that a lot on Philly cats...

Hottest underground Philly rapper to me is Oschino. He'll never make it big but his mixtapes were legendary back in the day. Every cat can spit hardcore shoot'em up rap, but O mixed it up with an unorthodox style, clever punch lines, life lessons and humor.

Post: #27

Does Roosh derive some sort of strange pleasure watching women get their asses kicked?

Post: #28

Excessive. Whether or not you condone violence to meet womens bullshit, I think Lil Reese (?) took it to far, and I think the point was made well before the head stomping

Post: #29

I'm a worse person for knowing that people like that guy exist.

It's not even that he's too unrestrained that's his main problem, it's that his motivations are disturbingly dark to begin with. He has no line or limit and wants to cause too much harm.

It's creepy in a horror film kind of way.

Somebody post a picture of a baby seal and a cat.

Post: #30

(10-28-2012 01:11 PM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  I don't know. Most white chicks know when to back down. Black chicks for some reason still like to push it even when they know they are about to get a serious beat down.

Isn't there a personality disorder where that's a major trait? No consideration of personal consequences?

Or is that shared by a few? I'm guessing BPD, anti-social PD, and maybe sociopaths. You'd expect tough neighborhoods to have higher instances of the PDs.

Girls like that really are a challenge, as they resist corrections to their behavior. And escalating to as much as it takes in their case still doesn't correct their behaviors.

Anyone here ever tried to tame a full out hard core BPD? I lived with one for a year in the Phils. Untrainable, untameable. Only barely tolerable. But absolutely fantastic sex and a hell of a lot fun - unparalleled in that area.

Post: #31

(10-28-2012 04:11 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(10-27-2012 06:40 PM)Rosca Wrote:  Too many damn rappers fucking up their talent by letting their hood instincts get in. Theres so many good underground rappers in Philly that could have made it by their lyricism alone. But like Lil Reese, want to escalate shit that pisses them off to another level. Which at the end fucks up their talent that could have probably gotten them out of the hood.

Lesson of the Day:
Be hood all you want. It's good for you and your confidence to go out and do the shit you want in life. But once you have a talent/skill that can get you out, chill out on that violent shit.

Want to hear some undeground Philly rap?



You gotta admit, this guy is nice. Hell, better flow than Lil Reese. But Bricks got 70 years for murdering a few people. But I still play his raps to this day.

You guys know Meek Mill now that he's big. But watch this video of him chewing this kid in a rap battle. And even in the beginning of the video, he stated that he doesn't talk beef with people unless they give him a reason. He wanted to get signed and thats what he went out and got instead of a homicide.

Philly got a whole slew of rappers that have been watching for a while now. What happened to SlaughterRico? That guy's flow was insane! I like Eness too and Hollowman.

What's up with the long beard thing though? I seem to see that a lot on Philly cats...

But for real guys. Another lesson learned from these guys are. Feeling like a gangsta is real cool. If that's what you look up to and that's how you feel about yourself, go ahead. Fuck being alpha. Feel fucking gangsta.

Honestly guys. I feel like rapping has helped my inner game so much. It's artistic man. I advise anyone who has the time and skill to practice it. If you can talk about how alpha you are in rhymes, it will definitely help you improve your cleverness and storytelling with the bitches. I really want to have rap cyphers with you guys someday haha.

Like Goldin Boy said, its a Muslim thing. You can't live a day in Philly without seeing a muslim dude or a lizard covered up. Hell you ever seen the wave hairstyle. I believe they've started that too.

I don't know what happened to SlaughterRico. But I guess he's alive and not in jail since he's posting on his twitter page

Eness, I think he got on that BadBoy Records deal shit. But he got thrown off.

I gotta do homework guys, but keep it gangsta.

Post: #32

(10-28-2012 03:07 PM)xsplat Wrote:  Somebody post a picture of a baby seal and a cat.

Ask and you shall receive:

Post: #33

I have to seriously question the current state of hip hop when young gangbangers (who can barely even rap in the first place) such as Chief Keef & Lil Reese (the guy from Chicago that beat up the girl in the vid) are rewarded with lucrative record deals. At least the old Death Row Records in the 1990's (ie. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Dogg Pound, 2Pac, etc.) in the old days made some good music even if there was the undercurrent of the LA gang lifestyle in the air & the intimidating presence of Suge Knight. At the end of the day I guess it comes down to $$$. The young wannabe hardcore kids across America prolly vote these guys in with their $$$ when they reward these guys with sales.

Post: #34

(10-28-2012 10:27 PM)reppin_the_847 Wrote:  I have to seriously question the current state of hip hop when young gangbangers (who can barely even rap in the first place) such as Chief Keef & Lil Reese (the guy from Chicago that beat up the girl in the vid) are rewarded with lucrative record deals. At least the old Death Row Records in the 1990's (ie. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Dogg Pound, 2Pac, etc.) in the old days made some good music even if there was the undercurrent of the LA gang lifestyle in the air & the intimidating presence of Suge Knight. At the end of the day I guess it comes down to $$$. The young wannabe hardcore kids across America prolly vote these guys in with their $$$ when they reward these guys with sales.

THATS DAT SHIT I DON LIKE

Post: #35

Yep. It's even more shocking that Kanye West basically co-signed Chief Keef on the "I Don't Like (Remix)". Just doesn't make sense. West and all the other dudes on that remix are way better than Keef on the mic. Can't believe Jadakiss sold out and appeared on it lol. Anyone in the Lox crew could body Keef on the mic something nasty. Speaking of the Lox, that new Wu-Block joint with Ghostface Killah & Sheek Louch might be decent. Got a couple cuts off of it. Although sorta old school at this point, those guys represent real hip hop IMO. Better beats & sick flows and wordplay.

(10-28-2012 10:50 PM)Rosca Wrote:  THATS DAT SHIT I DON LIKE

Post: #36

(10-28-2012 07:43 PM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(10-28-2012 03:07 PM)xsplat Wrote:  Somebody post a picture of a baby seal and a cat.

Ask and you shall receive:

haha You beat me to it!

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #37

(10-28-2012 03:07 PM)xsplat Wrote:  Somebody post a picture of a baby seal and a cat.

Post: #38

When it comes down to it, you cannot hate for Chief Keef. New hip-hop may not have the good lyrics and such that previous generations have, but some bitches love it! Especially younger hoes!

Have an appreciation for the old school hip-hop, but do understand this. If you are trying to get in on some younger pussy, you might wanna appreciate new hip-hop as well. So at least give him some props for saying stupid shit to help get that girl you're trying to fuck, shake her ass.

Music helps game out a lot. Especially dance floor game. If you really hate new hip-hop that much, I'd suggest going to another party that doesn't plays music according to your taste.

I just think having a open mind about music will make you access to more parties and more bitches that way. So far in college, I made out to white girls to dubstep music and made out with a black chick last week to some new hip-hop/rap music. And I plan on decking myself out for this avicii concert in a few days.

Just appreciate music overall man and you'll be able to get more hoes.

Post: #39

(10-28-2012 02:07 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Does Roosh derive some sort of strange pleasure watching women get their asses kicked?

I think alot of guys do. Obviously the manosphere attracts guys who haven't had the best experiences with women. Bitterness is common.

I think their might be something genetic going on also. I've heard a theory that some women like to be dominated because they were so often dominated back in caveman times, that they learned to accept it. They didn't fight back since fighting back would often lead to worse injury.

Could women be genetically predisposed to enjoy being dominated???

Could men be genetically predisposed to enjoy dominating women???

And thus enjoy seeing women get dominated.

I must admit, I sometimes get a woody from seeing a girl get roughed up a bit.

Just a theory..

I think this could be true to a point. I think the more common reason guys like seeing girls get beat up is because they have been sexually unsuccessful in their life and they are angry about it.

A mans relationship with his mother also shapes his sexual psyche.

Post: #40

(10-28-2012 06:11 PM)Rosca Wrote:  Feel fucking gangsta.

Can you explain what you mean by this? Do you feel like you would kill people who get in your way? Do you feel like you live outside of the rules and laws of mainstream society? Do you feel like you are addicted to making money illegally?

What do you mean "feel gangsta"?

(10-28-2012 06:11 PM)Rosca Wrote:  I feel like rapping has helped my inner game so much.

Yeah, rapping and singing is great for inner game.

(10-28-2012 06:11 PM)Rosca Wrote:  I gotta do homework guys, but keep it gangsta.

Where is the meme for this!!!

Post: #41

These videos are probably some sort of wish fulfillment. Many times a girl has stepped out of line and a good response would be to push or slap her, but you'll be the one punished for it. So you see a video where a guy does uses violence and you put yourself in his shoes.

Post: #42

To Giovonny, sup brah.

Hey, sorry for the mix up of that statement. But what I really mean is like feeling gangsta is just a way of mind. You are able to make money, fuck bitches, while chilling with your bros.

I do not think I'm going to kill someone to get in my way. And definitely not fucking air stomp bitches when they act too ratchet. Us RVF members should be jumping in the air and going in and out of girl's pussies with as much excitement as Lil Reese here. But I do think its good to defend myself when things get too out of hand. I just think there's a few mental and physical lessons we can learn from gangstas that would help us.

Like gangstas, us players do live rules outside of mainstream society. We believe that girls should get gamed and fucked and keep it moving. Mainstream society has a lot of cases of divorce rape and beta males getting fucked over by women.

I don't think I am addicted to making money illegally. But I do think that money can be made in different ways than just a 9-5. After being on this forum for a while, I've just been working with tk and making a couple dollars through article writing. It's not illegal money, but it's damn sure different.

Gangstas are tough and they get money and bang girls. Sort of like us. It's just a mindset to help you feel confident about yourself.

Post: #43

We've gone from uppercuts to brutal head stomping now. I don't want to imagine, but can't help but wonder what comes next. Kind of like those terrible accidents on the side of the road you can't help but look at.

Post: #44

(10-29-2012 01:53 AM)Rosca Wrote:  When it comes down to it, you cannot hate for Chief Keef. New hip-hop may not have the good lyrics and such that previous generations have, but some bitches love it! Especially younger hoes!

Have an appreciation for the old school hip-hop, but do understand this. If you are trying to get in on some younger pussy, you might wanna appreciate new hip-hop as well. So at least give him some props for saying stupid shit to help get that girl you're trying to fuck, shake her ass.

Music helps game out a lot. Especially dance floor game. If you really hate new hip-hop that much, I'd suggest going to another party that doesn't plays music according to your taste.

I just think having a open mind about music will make you access to more parties and more bitches that way. So far in college, I made out to white girls to dubstep music and made out with a black chick last week to some new hip-hop/rap music. And I plan on decking myself out for this avicii concert in a few days.

Just appreciate music overall man and you'll be able to get more hoes.

I have to condition myself to the other type of music out there. I am trying to listen to more Rick Ross and Meek Mills and the other pop crap but it's difficult since I was raised on better music.

I remember going out raving in Toronto and going to Brant House and I could feel my energy dipping as I heard "I got a feeling whoo ooo cos tonight's gonna be a good night".

The problem with going to clubs with music I like is that it's full of pretentious lizards just out to give hard times (instead of giving my hard on THAT time).
So I'll have energy to approach and be inventive but it's a low ROI.

That being said, I enjoyed the music selection in that film 'I love you man'. I actually have Tom Sawyer by KISS (the Torontonian group) on my mp3 player.

I enjoy Latin music immensely because of the similarities to African rhythm, I guess.
I have ZERO problem being in a club that plays bachata all night.

Post: #45

(10-29-2012 02:31 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(10-28-2012 02:07 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Does Roosh derive some sort of strange pleasure watching women get their asses kicked?

I think alot of guys do. Obviously the manosphere attracts guys who haven't had the best experiences with women. Bitterness is common.

I think their might be something genetic going on also. I've heard a theory that some women like to be dominated because they were so often dominated back in caveman times, that they learned to accept it. They didn't fight back since fighting back would often lead to worse injury.

Could women be genetically predisposed to enjoy being dominated???

Could men be genetically predisposed to enjoy dominating women???

And thus enjoy seeing women get dominated.

I must admit, I sometimes get a woody from seeing a girl get roughed up a bit.

Just a theory..

I think this could be true to a point. I think the more common reason guys like seeing girls get beat up is because they have been sexually unsuccessful in their life and they are angry about it.

A mans relationship with his mother also shapes his sexual psyche.

I think you are onto something very potent here.. I think there is something in a lizard that enables her to respect a man who beats her. I've been with hypergamous lizards that will taunt unnecessarily and when one makes a move like he may be rough, they seem to find it a turnon. Life is funny like that. All this socialisation we have been taught but we are really just a bunch of upright animals when it boils down to it. It' is not a fantasy of mine to beat up a lizard nor do I enjoy doing watching a lizard being stomped UNNECESSARILY by a man but I hate bullying.
However, I do get semis from watching chicks beat each other up especially if tits come out and ass gets exposed.
Maybe I need therapy.

Post: #46

(10-29-2012 08:16 AM)Rosca Wrote:  To Giovonny, sup brah.

Hey, sorry for the mix up of that statement. But what I really mean is like feeling gangsta is just a way of mind. You are able to make money, fuck bitches, while chilling with your bros.

Whatup!

Mix up? I asked what you meant by "feeling gangsta" and you explained that its a state of mind related to making money, fucking bitches, and chilling with your bros. I understand.

(10-29-2012 08:16 AM)Rosca Wrote:  I just think there's a few mental and physical lessons we can learn from gangstas that would help us.

What mental and physical lessons can we learn from "gangstas"???

(10-29-2012 08:16 AM)Rosca Wrote:  It's just a mindset to help you feel confident about yourself.

Yes, this is the most important thing! We all have to find a mindset and perspective that makes us feel confident and fearless. If imagining yourself as a "gangsta" accomplishes this, more power to you. I think that strategy works for alot of people. I often tell myself that I am a pimp!

(10-29-2012 08:33 AM)Moma Wrote:  I think you are onto something very potent here.. I think there is something in a lizard that enables her to respect a man who beats her. I've been with hypergamous lizards that will taunt unnecessarily and when one makes a move like he may be rough, they seem to find it a turnon. Life is funny like that. All this socialisation we have been taught but we are really just a bunch of upright animals when it boils down to it. It' is not a fantasy of mine to beat up a lizard nor do I enjoy doing watching a lizard being stomped UNNECESSARILY by a man but I hate bullying.
However, I do get semis from watching chicks beat each other up especially if tits come out and ass gets exposed.
Maybe I need therapy.

Isn't that shit interesting!?! I really like evolutionary psychology and evolutionary explanations for game!

Quote:All this socialization we have been taught but we are really just a bunch of upright animals

Damn. This shit is deep! To me, we are still just a bunch of cavemen!

Post: #47

(10-29-2012 12:21 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote:All this socialization we have been taught but we are really just a bunch of upright animals

Damn. This shit is deep! To me, we are still just a bunch of cavemen!

In a lot of ways that's true.

On the other hand, there's a big difference in accepting that to leverage it for the positive and rewarding negative caveman-like behavior (i.e. some young punk trying to stomp a woman's head in).

When you're dealing with a community of like-minded men who look up to each other, there's a real risk that some of the more impressionable ones will start thinking it's somehow okay, or that lighter versions of it are okay. Even the more independent thinkers here surely can't deny the influence group-think has on them when it's a group they really vibe with.

A lot of people in our society are still pretty caveman like in nature. Harnessing certain caveman tendencies can make you an animal in game, in bed, and in life. Sure.

We don't want to be like mainstream society though - nor hoodrat society. So we should always choose wisely which of these tendencies to glorify and adopt.

As Rennaissance men, we need to evolve forward, not backwards.

Beyond All Seas

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
To be your own man is a hard business. If you try it, you'll be lonely often, and sometimes
frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." - Kipling

Post: #48

I like how Rennaissance men sounds. But "Gangsta"...? Not so much.


Sorry Rosca, maybe on the next life.

Post: #49

@ Fret
It's all good Fret, you can still be apart of the Pussy Getting Rennaisance

@Gio
Well for gangsta's there are a lot of mental and physical mindsets.
Mental:
A "I wish a nigga would" Mentality is one of the main mentalities they have. You wish someone fucks your day up, you wish someone tries to take you off of your stool. You know why? Because you are able to handle it whenever way possible.

I wish a bitch would cockblock me now. You know why? Because she's not getting dick either! Take away my pussy you spiteful bitch! You're just mad because your friend was close to getting the prize. I think I'd laugh it off now.
I wish Hurricane Sandy would fucking cause a ruckus. I don't have class tomorrow so I can now dick around on RVF while doing my daily 200 pushups.
I wish someone would start trouble with me or my friends. It will be dealt with.

Physical:
Gangstas are usually strong physically. Mainly in the upperbody strength. While I still struggle with weight gains and such, I still fucking hit up that gym.

Now that I got bday money, I can invest it on cool shit like starting strength and all that jazz.

@Moma
Hook us up with some good Spanish music you listen too!
I wanna fuck some chicas too!

Post: #50

(10-29-2012 02:44 AM)Roosh Wrote:  These videos are probably some sort of wish fulfillment. Many times a girl has stepped out of line and a good response would be to push or slap her, but you'll be the one punished for it. So you see a video where a guy does uses violence and you put yourself in his shoes.

I have to admit that I hadn't laughed so hard in years when I started watching all of the YouTube videos of hoodrats getting knocked out that was triggered by that ratchet getting uppercutted on the bus. I mean tears streaming, rib-cramping laughter. I still think it's best for men to do everything they can to avoid resorting to physical violence against women, but when they keep coming at you, swinging, I don't feel a bit bad about them taking a single punch to the dome. Stomping on a chick is a bit much, especially since you've already put her on her back.