Post: #26

(10-10-2012 12:34 AM)Technics Wrote:  No mention of Mogadishu, Somalia; Homs, Syria (where maybe 2K people have died in the last year alone); Kandahar or Kabul, Afghanistan?

The list is based on statistical data like the number of homicides per 100,000 inhabitants. I think any country without reliable data (like Somalia & Afghanistan) is dangerous as collecting statistical data is one of the tasks of a working government.

Post: #27

Cool Vice show about the murder-rate problem in Venezuela:
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/venezuela-...unt-part-1

Post: #28

Hello Everyone,
These are following most dangerous cities in the world:
1 San Pedro Sula Honduras
2 Juarez Mexico
3 Maceió Brazil
4 Acapulco Mexico
5 Central District Honduras
6 Caracas Venezuela
7 Torreón (metropolitan) Mexico
8 Chihuahua Mexico
9 Durango Mexico
10 Belém Brazil
11 Cali Colombia
12 Guatemala Guatemala
13 Culiacan Mexico
14 Medellin Colombia
15 Mazatlan Mexico
16 Tepic (metropolitan area) Mexico
17 Vitoria Brazil
18 Veracruz Mexico
19 Ciudad Guayana Venezuela
20 San Salvador El Salvador
21 New Orleans United States
22 Salvador (and RMS) Brazil
23 Cucuta Colombia
24 Barquisimeto Venezuela
25 San Juan Puerto Rico
26 Manaus Brazil
27 São Luís Brazil
28 Nuevo Laredo Mexico
29 João Pessoa Brazil
30 Detroit United States
31 Cuiabá Brazil
32 Recife Brazil
33 Kingston (metropolitan) Jamaica
34 Cape Town South Africa
35 Pereira Colombia
36 Macapá Brazil
37 Fortress Brazil
38 Monterrey (metropolitan area) Mexico
39 Curitiba Brazil
40 Goiânia Brazil
41 Nelson Mandela Bay Metropolitan Municipality (Port Elizabeth) South Africa
42 Barranquilla Colombia
43 ST. Louis United States
44 Mosul Iraq
45 Belo Horizonte Brazil
46 Panama Panama
47 Cuernavaca (metropolitan area) Mexico
48 Baltimore United States
49 Durban South Africa
50 City of Johannesburg South Africa
Thanks.

Post: #29

Johannesburg is the most dangerous city hands down....you are safe absolutely no where...upper class neighbourhood or lower class...it does not matter...even driving in the street you can get carjacked...in fact there are signs warning: ''hijack hotspot zone''.

In the wealthy, horse riding upper class neighbourhood I lived in we had: 1 neighbour shot dead, 1 abducted, raped and killed, another attacked and hospitalised - all within 300 yards of my front door...

How do I know? born and raised there!

You North American cities are PUSSY by comparison!

Post: #30

Yeah, but Joburg it is different now to how it was in the 90's or even five years ago.

Post: #31

7 for me, lived in 1

Post: #32

I'd say Juarez & Caracas are the worst of all those cities. One is a war zone (Juarez) and the other is fucked up beyond recognition (Caracas).

Post: #33

This list mentions the murder-rate, not the death-rate. I think your chances of dying in India are higher than many of those cities. I'll never forget the guy I saw laying face down on the scorching hot black pavement, laying in blood, on a blistering 112F degree day, after falling off his 2 wheeler. Or the dead body floating down a major road in Mumbai during a monsoon flood. Or my relative who contracted Cholera while visiting me and spent two weeks in the hospital.

Post: #34

Amazing how safe NYC is compared to stories people have told me from even 15 years ago.

Post: #35

(10-10-2012 07:18 AM)unstoppableflow Wrote:  Johannesburg is the most dangerous city hands down....you are safe absolutely no where...upper class neighbourhood or lower class...it does not matter...even driving in the street you can get carjacked...in fact there are signs warning: ''hijack hotspot zone''.

In the wealthy, horse riding upper class neighbourhood I lived in we had: 1 neighbour shot dead, 1 abducted, raped and killed, another attacked and hospitalised - all within 300 yards of my front door...

How do I know? born and raised there!

You North American cities are PUSSY by comparison!

Labling cities as "most dangerous" and only listing homicides per-capita homicide is a bit misleading, otherwise, it would seem as though your assessment of Johannesburg would be closer to the truth. Including all violent crime statistics would provide a more accurate assessment of "dangerous" cities.

As it is, I guess you and your hometown will have to settle for 50th place while my North American city remains unranked...woe is me.

Post: #36

The list is far from accurate, Monrovia in Liberia or Lobamba in swaziland, would be at the top of the list by a long way. south america may not be safe but africa is like another planet, a very fucked up one.

Post: #37

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Agree that this is heavily skewed depending on what part of the city you visit.

Post: #38

8.

All from riding my motorcycle around latin America.

I really do have a lot of the world to see still.

Post: #39

13 for me. I only felt unsafe in 2 or 3 of them. Hell, i walked around most of them alone and at nightime. Something i wouldnt do in some parts of philly or compton.

Post: #40

Have been to 6, currently based in one listed.

Am surprised Medellin and Cali both feature strongly. Haven't been to either, but I thought that Colombia had mostly got a grip on things. Are most of the killings their "gang related"? i.e. You're only really at risk if you are some sort of local drug dealer, or is random violence also quit high?

Agree that the list is suspect. You can bank on the fact that no reliable data from sub-Saharan African countries, other than South Africa, was available to the compilers, for example.

Of course New York isn't on the list. It is probably one of the safest big cities in the world, let alone America. I am not in any remote way some sort of tough guy and I never felt threatened walking around anywhere in Manhattan, including up north. Maybe the South Bronx would be different. Looked pretty bad from the train.

Post: #41

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Post: #42

I cant imagine any city in the US being more dangerous than e.g. Mexico DF (or any other major LA city). Just take a walk through Tepito...

Post: #43

1. Baltimore- Used to work for a company and had to go up there occasionally. Never felt unsafe.

2. Mosul- Yep, pretty dangerous. Used to go up there back in the hey day.

3. New Orleans- Used to work in LA, and made weekend trips over. Place has some rough areas.

4. San Salvador- Has gotten worse. Shame, cause if it was safer I'd be there now.

Well that all I got on that list. Have been all over Iraq and Afghan though.

Post: #44

Only four. Devastating stuff.

Post: #45

I have been to 5. Was I wrong to assume there would be some eastern european cities on that list?

Post: #46

I have been in 4 of them. I wonder why SP nor Rio isn't this list.

Post: #47

(10-10-2012 02:57 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  1. Baltimore- Used to work for a company and had to go up there occasionally. Never felt unsafe.

2. Mosul- Yep, pretty dangerous. Used to go up there back in the hey day.

3. New Orleans- Used to work in LA, and made weekend trips over. Place has some rough areas.

4. San Salvador- Has gotten worse. Shame, cause if it was safer I'd be there now.

Well that all I got on that list. Have been all over Iraq and Afghan though.

Ali, you are light weight staying in the DR so long. Get down to Brazil So you can triple that number fast.

Post: #48

I never thought South Africa would be considered extremely dangerous. Can anyone explain whats the deal there?

Post: #49

I´ve been to 8, but I strongly disagree with that list.

I was born and raised in Belo Horizonte and BH is not unsafe. Also, Goiânia is safe.

On the other hand, Panama City and San Pedro Sula are fucking scary.

Post: #50

(10-11-2012 01:00 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  I never thought South Africa would be considered extremely dangerous. Can anyone explain whats the deal there?

-Enormous disparities in income.
-Racial tension.
-Inefficient policing and judicial system.
-Current constitution essentially designed by far left-wing Western intellectuals, and is comically inappropriate for local conditions where nothing but a very strong hand, including death penalty (which is obviously unconstitutional), will make any impact on crime and violence.

Not that it is the most terrible place in the world. Just that it could, and should, be much better. I always encourage people to visit. The scenery is spectacular, you've got all the incredible African wildlife in excellent reserves, and despite the real dangers 90+% of the people are cool and friendly. Also, Cape Town is a very cool city, that everyone should consider visiting at some point in their life.