(09-20-2012 08:12 PM)manilaguy Wrote:  

(09-16-2012 08:30 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

(08-13-2012 03:46 PM)manilaguy Wrote:  I want to know how I can convert Salsa skills to getting these girls back to my place.

Any ideas?

One thing you can do is find girls that are just starting out and invite them over to your place to "practice." Once you get them over to your place, its on you to seal the deal.

Problem is my place is pretty small with no shared space. So practicing is out of the question.

I need to get them to come-over from a different location, hence club.

Where do you live? Do they have dance socials/parties that are not in a club?

All I have to say is closed position if your place is small.

The best salsa move if you want to try beta bait. Come off as a hard core player, then beta dance in the middle of the street/at night whatever. Then she's ready 2 go.

Skill level as in salsa, or as in game? Both quite high, I'd say. I think WestCoast is spot on, dancing, and doing it well, after delivering high doses of (asshole) game is just the right thing - it reminds me of those famous singers with uber-Beta songs.

p.s. interesting fact: his height was just average, maybe even a bit below average.

Girl is coming over in g minus 30 minutes at my small room where we can "practice"

In other news, I went to Zurich Switzerland to see how Salsa will scale up to international cities.

My notes:

One needs to be at a high dancing proficiency level or will be a wall-flower! There is nothing like being able to dance with 90% of the girls and thinking she's lucky you picked her.

So in that note, I think I'll be taking more classes and get the other technical dancing details up before I start implementing in other cities abroad.

BTW, with Salsa it makes it easier to connect with girls in other cities (I had one as my tour guide). And it adds material to day game ie "i'm into latin dancing, is X a great place to Salsa, where would you recommend?"

(09-21-2012 10:02 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  All I have to say is closed position if your place is small.

The best salsa move if you want to try beta bait. Come off as a hard core player, then beta dance in the middle of the street/at night whatever. Then she's ready 2 go.

How does the beta bait work exactly?

My issue with my place is that there's no shared space so practice goes straight to my bedroom. If I had a living room, it would be so much more ideal to warm things up. Oh well.

In my room, I don't even have a chair, just a computer chair. However, I installed some mirrors to help haha!

(09-24-2012 08:10 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Skill level as in salsa, or as in game? Both quite high, I'd say. I think WestCoast is spot on, dancing, and doing it well, after delivering high doses of (asshole) game is just the right thing - it reminds me of those famous singers with uber-Beta songs.

p.s. interesting fact: his height was just average, maybe even a bit below average.

I was looking for that link eel! That "she has a boyfriend now what?".

Been meeting girls with boyfriends that don't dance and i'm trying to figure out if I should just drop them or keep them as friends/potentials.

Haha glad you like the link! Although bear in mind that the video is satire, even if it's true that it's usually the best to just drop them. At least that's what I've been doing.

Beta Bait: When girls assume you're a player out the gate and you have to focus more on comfort, you bring out the high end "bait"

You'll get to a point where girls will straight open you, this is the level that i'm at when i go out to certain venues so they assume you're a player. This is when you'll be reaching a little bit above on the point scale. The girls who open you are average to below, but the cute ones tend to stand by you. After you open and dance they'll assume you're a player. Never say yes or no. Avoid the answer and get a phone number. Dance of course and do the same moves described but a little more aggressive, try a cross body lead into a hostel drop into a right spin and do the usual drop down your chest move.

Execution: Once you collect the number from her and get her on a date you dance in your place. Not having a shared space is an asset. You do closed position stuff teach her to dance correctly and slowly escalate but not until do you leave the place to go "out" do you really make moves.

She already assumes you're a player.

Instead when you go take her out, grab a couple drinks and start busting out the bullshit beta stuff. You dance with her in the middle of the street, you start singing some of those spanish songs to her and get her giggling and really believing you're a "Nice guy".

After that of course end back at your place and see how far you get with escalation. Usually takes 2 dates if you're looking to lock down a 7.5+ for a while.

Good luck out there!

(10-08-2012 11:39 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

(09-21-2012 10:02 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  All I have to say is closed position if your place is small.

The best salsa move if you want to try beta bait. Come off as a hard core player, then beta dance in the middle of the street/at night whatever. Then she's ready 2 go.

How does the beta bait work exactly?

My issue with my place is that there's no shared space so practice goes straight to my bedroom. If I had a living room, it would be so much more ideal to warm things up. Oh well.

In my room, I don't even have a chair, just a computer chair. However, I installed some mirrors to help haha!

(09-18-2012 06:07 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I've known a guy who was a veteran (late 20s) in a salsa club and banged several girls from each season's class. It's definitely not impossible. He had serious asshole game going on, teasing girls all the time and, combined with his status and intimate touching from salsa, I can't say that I'm surprised by his success.

Anyways, I'd say that he would have banged some girls in any setting, salsa was just a prop for some status and faster escalation.

This is true. The rooster sings anywhere.

(10-08-2012 11:39 AM)manilaguy Wrote:  

(09-21-2012 10:02 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  All I have to say is closed position if your place is small.

The best salsa move if you want to try beta bait. Come off as a hard core player, then beta dance in the middle of the street/at night whatever. Then she's ready 2 go.

How does the beta bait work exactly?

My issue with my place is that there's no shared space so practice goes straight to my bedroom. If I had a living room, it would be so much more ideal to warm things up. Oh well.

In my room, I don't even have a chair, just a computer chair. However, I installed some mirrors to help haha!

Mirror joke time.

Tell her "you wanna see some porn on my new 32 inch mirror?"....I'll walk myself out.

In the past weeks I have read several threads around latino dance for gaming.

So far I could identify 3 different strategies:

1) Testosterone olympics: become the best dancer at instructor level. This is not just gaming, it becomes your profession. You gain access to the best women, but need to put long term constant efforts. If you are not that good, you may still be able to game the female "beginners".

2) Contextual dancer: use your decent dancing skills among non-dancers. For example, in a club you will be noticed once you dance a regular song with your better than average skills. This is the typical strategy for night gamers.

3) Social circle: use your decent dancing skills for teaching others. Even if you are not an advanced dancer, your will gain the alfa status as "instructor". Hence, you gain access to most girls of that (temporary) community. This has been highlighted on Roosh last book's on game, as part of the social circle game annex.

I have decided to go for 3. Since I am latino and already have decent salsa/bachata skills, I expect to get a comparative advantage.

As a next step I have created a "dance challenge" course for newbies on reggaeton/latinpop, which actually teaches bachata basics. The pilot phase was ok, the most important thing was that I enjoyed teaching (which is a good sign for matching my personality with game). Next week I start approaching student-based associations in order to "sell" my course with the goal to access women between 18-24 years old.

Anybody here has run social circle game as latino dance beginner instructor? let's share experiences!

Fernando

Just be yourself dude

After 3 months of running salsa game, I have gotten one lay (entering a mini-relationship), one heavy make out and one recent kissing.

This is proving to be quicker than my daygame efforts. The main reason? I am not just going to salsa classes / parties... I am TEACHING salsa (and bachata) to young girls >>> social circle game

This is the main advice I can share through this post thread. Do you have a decent level of dancing? TEACH IT ASAP TO NEWBIES.

I got surprised that no much content has been posted around salsa game lately. Thus, I started sharing my experience through my game journal: /thread-72010.html

When I was taking salsa classes in Medellin I dropped some weight. 2 hour privates 3 times a week can replace any needed cardio at the gym, plus you get a skill with it.

Classes in Canada have always annoyed me. Might try again to bring the level up.

(05-11-2019 03:19 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  When I was taking salsa classes in Medellin I dropped some weight. 2 hour privates 3 times a week can replace any needed cardio at the gym, plus you get a skill with it.

Classes in Canada have always annoyed me. Might try again to bring the level up.

Why are they annoying?
Attitude of the women or something else?