Basil Ransom
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RE: TV's Alpha Males
(09-04-2012 11:18 PM)Chief Wrote: (04-15-2012 07:18 PM)basilransom Wrote: (04-15-2012 07:08 PM)Parlay44 Wrote: Clay and Jax on Sons of Anarchy. Although Jax is getting more and more beta. I can't wait for Season 5. My #1 favorite show at the moment.
![[Image: sons-anarchy-ron-and-charlie_l.jpg]](http://ewwatchingtv.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sons-anarchy-ron-and-charlie_l.jpg)
I couldn't stand that show. Half the scenes are like soap opera. Saw an episode of the show The Unit. Same deal. If you cut out the action scenes, these shows are Oxygen Network material. Women viewers want to get wet over murderers and killers, but also want that sappy emotional dreck mixed in too.
Could not agree more. I actually tried to enjoy this show as i liked the premise. Sappy emotional scenes (i ended up fast forwarding every time Al Bundys wife came on) and the whole fake feel of the thing got too me after two seasons.
Weaksauce.
I don't watch much TV, so I'm hyper sensitive to stupid shit. When you go without it, and the first thing you see is say, Modern Family, it's hard not to be disgusted. Hell, you can't watch any show where guys talk like they're gay or pussy. Revering TV figures is worse than worshiping pro athletes.
As for the specific flaws of Sons of Anarchy, I saw it so long ago... I recall there being constant bitchy drama among the men. There wasn't any sense of progress, development or advancement. Get past the explosions, and it just seemed like never ending feminine feuding. And somehow, it felt like, despite all the action, women were truly at the center of the story, as if they were the reason to fight, and worth dying for. In authentically masculine films, one man rises above his station to accomplish incredible, lasting feats. Or an unlikely rag-tag group of men band together as brothers to achieve something equally remarkable. Spartacus, The Ten Commandments, Carbine Williams. The women play marginal roles in films like these. Watch films with stories like these, and you will realize what utter shit 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'The Unit' is. If you disagree with me, you're wrong jabroni.*
And honestly, I'd rather revere a real accomplished dead man like Porfirio Rubirosa or Charlton Heston than some phony TV character played by a hipster actor.
*I've been drinking
(This post was last modified: 09-05-2012 12:41 AM by Basil Ransom.)
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Nonpareil
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RE: TV's Alpha Males
(09-05-2012 12:17 AM)basilransom Wrote: (09-04-2012 11:18 PM)Chief Wrote: (04-15-2012 07:18 PM)basilransom Wrote: (04-15-2012 07:08 PM)Parlay44 Wrote: Clay and Jax on Sons of Anarchy. Although Jax is getting more and more beta. I can't wait for Season 5. My #1 favorite show at the moment.
![[Image: sons-anarchy-ron-and-charlie_l.jpg]](http://ewwatchingtv.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sons-anarchy-ron-and-charlie_l.jpg)
I couldn't stand that show. Half the scenes are like soap opera. Saw an episode of the show The Unit. Same deal. If you cut out the action scenes, these shows are Oxygen Network material. Women viewers want to get wet over murderers and killers, but also want that sappy emotional dreck mixed in too.
Could not agree more. I actually tried to enjoy this show as i liked the premise. Sappy emotional scenes (i ended up fast forwarding every time Al Bundys wife came on) and the whole fake feel of the thing got too me after two seasons.
Weaksauce.
I don't watch much TV, so I'm hyper sensitive to stupid shit. When you go without it, and the first thing you see is say, Modern Family, it's hard not to be disgusted. Hell, you can't watch any show where guys talk like they're gay or pussy. Revering TV figures is worse than worshiping pro athletes.
As for the specific flaws of Sons of Anarchy, I saw it so long ago... I recall there being constant bitchy drama among the men. There wasn't any sense of progress, development or advancement. Get past the explosions, and it just seemed like never ending feminine feuding. And somehow, it felt like, despite all the action, women were truly at the center of the story, as if they were the reason to fight, and worth dying for. In authentically masculine films, one man rises above his station to accomplish incredible, lasting feats. Or an unlikely rag-tag group of men band together as brothers to achieve something equally remarkable. Spartacus, The Ten Commandments, Carbine Williams. The women play marginal roles in films like these. Watch films with stories like these, and you will realize what utter shit 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'The Unit' is. If you disagree with me, you're wrong jabroni.*
And honestly, I'd rather revere a real accomplished dead man like Porfirio Rubirosa or Charlton Heston than some phony TV character played by a hipster actor.
*I've been drinking 
My biggest beef with the Sons? It's the most unrealistic thing on TV (and that's saying something). You have the queen of the bikers daytiming as a surgeon, and a bunch of outlaws who are as articulate and eloquent as associate professors? Please.
Someone said Jesse Pinkman; love the character and Aaron Paul is amazing playing him, but I don't consider a guy who has spent spells as a slave to meth and shacked up with a recovering addict with a kid to be alpha.
And on the flipside, the most beta character on TV?
The dorky job, the shitty posture, the 10-year-old-boy fashion sense, the zero muscle mass, that he's his roommate's bitch and the fact that he falls in love at first sight with a 7 makes this guy the king of the betas...which I find odd, considering how many women love this show (it's shit).
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Shrodax
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RE: TV's Alpha Males
(09-05-2012 01:43 AM)Nonpareil Wrote: And on the flipside, the most beta character on TV?
![[Image: Leonard_Hofstadter.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/zh/7/77/Leonard_Hofstadter.jpg)
The dorky job, the shitty posture, the 10-year-old-boy fashion sense, the zero muscle mass, that he's his roommate's bitch and the fact that he falls in love at first sight with a 7 makes this guy the king of the betas...which I find odd, considering how many women love this show (it's shit).
I'd say Leonard is actually the least beta of the main cast of "The Big Bang Theory"; he's more of a herb. Though debating this topic is like asking whose shit smells the best, but there's no way he's more beta than the Indian guy who can't even talk to women. Leonard strikes me as the kind of beta who would start smashing through pussy like the Juggernaut after a few times reading Roosh and Heartiste, whereas the other cast members seem pretty hopeless no matter what. There are a few times in the show where he sees firsthand how being a little cocky, arrogant, and playful turns a girl on, so there is some progress with his character. Plus he has racked up a fairly decent notch count (at least for a beta) throughout the show.
I think women love this show partly because the main cast, or at least Leonard, is a perfect example of the kind of greater beta provider they'd all love to marry at 30 after having their fun in their 20s. Leonard has a decent science research job, he'd be completely devoted to any woman he married, and he doesn't judge Penny at all for her slutty, slutty past. A guy like that fits in perfectly with the modern-day woman's fantasy timeline of life.
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RE: TV's Alpha Males
(09-05-2012 12:17 AM)basilransom Wrote: In authentically masculine films, one man rises above his station to accomplish incredible, lasting feats. Or an unlikely rag-tag group of men band together as brothers to achieve something equally remarkable. Spartacus, The Ten Commandments, Carbine Williams. The women play marginal roles in films like these. Watch films with stories like these, and you will realize what utter shit 'Sons of Anarchy' and 'The Unit' is. If you disagree with me, you're wrong jabroni.*
*I've been drinking 
Agreed. Sean Connery James Bond movies, Steve McQueen films, anything with Charles Bronson, old school Arnold Schwarzenegger flicks, and Clint Eastwood westerns. Are 100% better than any modern action movie, not because they have great special effects or better production value, but because they were written directed and starred in by actual men.
All the "manly" movies today (sans Jason Statham ones) are written and acted in by a bunch of beta males and metrosexual dudes who, at best, bring a lackluster and forced "masculine" energy to their roles.
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